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lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [wxl: We should look at swapping out qps with ksysguard], Why!00:01
lubot<tsimonq2> Better UI I guess :)00:01
lubot<tsimonq2> Do a side-by-side comparison yourself.00:02
lubot<Wafficus> Ah I gotcha. Not gonna steal Wendy's thunder though lemme know if you want a newbie like me to help @TheWendyPower00:28
lubotmiguel1mx was added by: miguel1mx00:31
lubot<tsimonq2> Welcome @miguel1mx :)00:31
lubot<miguel1mx> Thank you, @tsimonq2!00:32
lubot<miguel1mx> The final Lubuntu 18.10 was even better than the beta! Thank you so much!00:32
lubot<miguel1mx> It feels faster and the file manager is a little more responsive!00:33
lubot<tsimonq2> Thanks :)00:33
lubotThomas Ward was added by: Thomas Ward01:13
lubot<tsimonq2> HE'S HERE01:13
lubot<tsimonq2> :D01:13
lubot<Thomas Ward> :P01:14
lubot<miguel1mx> Welcome!01:14
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL95f08d167d57: Remove Gtk Spec.pdf as Qt one as Spec sheet.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL95f08d167d5701:54
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T115: Revamp Weblate] teward (Thomas Ward) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T115#244201:59
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T115: Revamp Weblate] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T115#244402:00
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T115: Revamp Weblate] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T115#244502:02
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T107: Calamares testing] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107#244602:08
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2a15fcb62817: Add initial docs for multimonitor settings.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2a15fcb6281702:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL80e32610648c: Add stub on how to launch kde_partition manager.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL80e32610648c02:56
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL7b98da210442: Add kde partition manager to toctree.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL7b98da21044202:56
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfc49e7d4137d: Add how to check SMART on kdepartition manager.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfc49e7d4137d03:37
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-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T115: Revamp Weblate] teward (Thomas Ward) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T115#244703:51
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL91e6136fa1dc: Update translations with all languages Weblate supports.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL91e6136fa1dc05:31
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL08c8246796d8: Update translations with all languages Weblate supports.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL08c8246796d805:31
tsimonq2wxl: qtwebkit-opensource-src is in Cosmic UNAPPROVED now.06:13
tsimonq2I tested the fix from my PPA in a VM before uploading and it works fine.06:14
tsimonq2If LibreOffice continues to fail I will be confused as to why.06:15
tsimonq2If @Wafficus or @HMollerCl wants to take care of https://phab.lubuntu.me/T116 that would be great, otherwise I guess I'll do it tomorrow.06:17
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Cherry pick lxqt-config GUI fixes: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T11606:17
lubotbob was added by: bob06:24
lubot<bob> hello06:24
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf6043271d17a: Another crufty package to purge during update.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf6043271d17a06:34
lubot<human> ok07:21
apt-ghettoIn the manual I am missing a chapter about "System Administration"10:15
apt-ghettoI was wondering how I can modify for example /etc/fstab with Featherpad. Is there something similar like the GVFS admin:// backend?10:17
apt-ghettoThe only useful way to edit /etc/fstab was with sudoedit. What is the Lubuntu-Way to admin the system?10:19
lubot<marneu> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> The only useful way to edit /etc/fstab was with sudoedit. What is t …], lxqt-sudo is the equivalent of gksudo. 'sudo featherpad' works as well, though.10:37
lubot<aptghetto> sudo and lxqt-sudo do not change env variables which lead to problems e.g. the featherpad config file is owned by root etc10:44
lubot<aptghetto> gksudo has changed the env variables. But it is not necessary and not a good idea to run the whole GUI app as root10:46
lubot<marneu> @aptghetto [sudo and lxqt-sudo do not change env variables which lead to problems e.g. the f …], Oh hell, you're right. That's pretty bad. *sudo chowns their fp.conf*10:51
lubot<marneu> Looks like this doesn't happen with lxqt-sudo. But I admit that I'm not very knowledgable in sysadmin. I'm just a reddit mod who lurks the dev chat :D10:53
lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> If @Wafficus or @HMollerCl wants to take care of https://phab.lubuntu …], I could look at it on Monday11:38
lubot<HMollerCl> @marneu [Looks like this doesn't happen with lxqt-sudo. But I admit that I'm not very kno …], Sudo -i works but only for some files11:38
lubot<TheWendyPower> @Wafficus [Ah I gotcha. Not gonna steal Wendy's thunder though lemme know if you want a new …], I'm a newbie myself 😉12:00
lubot<Wafficus> @TheWendyPower @HMollerCl hey guys since we're all newbies at it, let's tackle it together Monday night onward. Let me know what time works for you. I'm totally available 7:30 pm est USA onward on Monday night. Hans, I'm assuming you're in Europe right? What time works for you? Also goes for Wendy too14:45
lubot<Wafficus> @tsimonq2 could it wait until Monday night or is this urgent?14:45
lubot<Wafficus> @TheWendyPower btw, great job with the design work. I know I said it before but I am such a big fan of dark themes on everything to lower the stress on my eyes. I saw your photography site and am pretty impressed too. Keep up the good work.14:47
lubot<Wafficus> I only say this cause my job is so intense these days that I use the weekend to just wind down so I don't burn out and quit.14:48
lubot<Wafficus> Hopefully that doesn't come off as not being excited to work throughout the week nights for you guys though14:51
lubot<tsimonq2> @Wafficus [@tsimonq2 could it wait until Monday night or is this urgent?], Fine by me.16:54
lubot<HMollerCl> @Wafficus [@TheWendyPower @HMollerCl hey guys since we're all newbies at it, let's tackle i …], Actually I'm from South America, Chile. I'm not used to us Timezone, we use GMT here, GMT -3 is our current time17:31
tewardEastern US timezone is UTC-4 right now, in case it matters :P17:32
teward:P17:32
tsimonq2Eastern is UTC-4, Central is UTC-5, Mountain is UTC-6, Pacific is UTC-717:38
tsimonq2In about a month though, those become:17:38
tsimonq2Eastern UTC-5, Central UTC-6, Mountain UTC-7, Pacific UTC-817:39
tsimonq2(I think)17:39
tsimonq2teward is Eastern, I'm Central, @TheWendyPower is Mountain, and wxl is Pacific.17:39
lubot<teward001> Nov. 4th18:15
lubot<teward001> that's when DST is over and we all get another hour away from UTC in the US here18:15
lubot<teward001> :P18:15
lubot<tsimonq2> :P18:15
lubot<teward001> *knows things*18:15
lubot<tsimonq2> Failed to update repository: fatal: cannot mkdir /srv/weblate/lib/python3.6/site-packages/data/vcs/lubuntu/manual: Permission denied (128)18:17
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 fix it :P18:17
lubot<teward001> can't I enjoy five seconds to have another shot of espresso >.>18:17
lubot<tsimonq2> Nope18:17
lubot<tsimonq2> 😆18:17
lubot<teward001> @tsimonq2 standby.18:17
lubot<tsimonq2> Thanks18:17
lubot<teward001> @teward001 You can never have 5 seconds to get cofee muahahahahahah18:17
lubot<teward001> try now18:18
lubot<teward001> @tsimonq2 something about stupid system default perms are annoying18:20
lubot<teward001> i may have to ACL this to change the default umasks of how dirs and such are created 😐18:20
lubot<teward001> but we should be good now.18:20
lubot<TheWendyPower> @Wafficus [@TheWendyPower btw, great job with the design work. I know I said it before but …], Thanks! My schedule is all over the place. Thankfully if we are not on at the same time we can share thoughts, suggestions and ideas here.18:22
lubot<Wafficus> @TheWendyPower cool what I'll probably do is brainstorm a few ideas of what I think the average Lubuntu user would love to have, make a super simple qt mockup of it, share it as a repository on Lubuntus phabricator and well work from there. How does that sound teammates? @HMollerCl @TheWendyPower18:30
lubot<Wafficus> I'll be able to put that into motion tomorrow night18:30
lubot<TheWendyPower> That sounds good. I'll make a list of some of my ideas, especially with the look of it.18:32
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T115: Revamp Weblate] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T115#245018:57
tsimonq2wxl: How good are you with regexp statements? :P19:14
wxldecent19:15
tsimonq2wxl: See this? https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-manual/browse/master/source/po/en-gb/LC_MESSAGES/ I need a regexp that matches all po files, which can be in source/po/LANG/LC_MESSAGES/ or source/po/LANG/LC_MESSAGES/*/ or source/po/LANG/LC_MESSAGES/*/*19:17
wxlwhat's the goal here.. where does this end up?19:18
tsimonq2Weblate.19:18
tsimonq2This plugin needs a regexp to match all po files to translate.19:18
lubot<tsimonq2> (Photo, 1280x1084) https://i.imgur.com/VM9pB8K.jpg19:20
wxlthat ?P<something> must be their own syntax19:21
apt-ghetto(?P<NAME>pattern) is a named capture group => https://perldoc.perl.org/perlre.html at least if it is a PCRE19:24
wxlthat first one reads like "some language" "any number of characters that's not a slash" "a slash" "some component" "any number of characters that's not a slash" ".po"19:24
wxlthe [^/]/ seems like a strange overly convoluted construct19:25
wxloh yeah i don't do pcre at all19:25
wxli guess tht would explain the parens as they're otherwise just sort of unnecessary19:27
wxlare there going to be languages in here?19:30
wxloh nevermind19:30
wxlreading your message too literally19:30
wxlor rather, reading correctly your poorly communicated message :)19:31
apt-ghettoin think [^/]* means every sign except the slash19:31
wxlsource/po/(?P<language>[^/]*)/LC_MESSAGES/19:32
wxlthat's the core at least19:32
wxlwell19:32
wxlsource/po/(?P<language>[^/]*)/LC_MESSAGES/(?P<component>[^/]*)\.po19:32
tsimonq2Except, we can't use component, because that will always be "manual"19:33
wxlso name it anything19:33
tsimonq2Worst case scenario we have to split this into like 20 different components like LXQt, but I don't wanna do that :/19:34
wxlbut i don't know if weblate somehow requires a specific name19:34
tsimonq2I'm about ready to be lazy and just do that. XD19:34
tsimonq2wxl: Wanna figure this out or should I say "screw it" and take the easy way out?19:35
wxli think we can figure out the regex19:35
tsimonq2mkay19:36
wxli just don't know what implications their named captures have19:36
wxlso easy might be better19:36
tsimonq2So let's do it.19:36
tsimonq2I'll get that done, just give me a few :)19:36
tsimonq2So, adding this all individually got extremely tedious.20:17
tsimonq2I figured out I can just export a JSON file, replace it with whatever new things I want, and bam :D20:18
lubot<Wafficus> Doesnt that regex statement only mean to look for match that only starts with a slash character20:53
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd608fafe7e36: Useage for openbox settings including how to move titlebar buttons around.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd608fafe7e3623:15

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