[00:01] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [wxl: We should look at swapping out qps with ksysguard], Why!
[00:01] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Better UI I guess :)
[00:02] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Do a side-by-side comparison yourself.
[00:28] <lubot> <Wafficus> Ah I gotcha. Not gonna steal Wendy's thunder though lemme know if you want a newbie like me to help @TheWendyPower
[00:31] <lubot> miguel1mx was added by: miguel1mx
[00:31] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Welcome @miguel1mx :)
[00:32] <lubot> <miguel1mx> Thank you, @tsimonq2!
[00:32] <lubot> <miguel1mx> The final Lubuntu 18.10 was even better than the beta! Thank you so much!
[00:33] <lubot> <miguel1mx> It feels faster and the file manager is a little more responsive!
[00:33] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Thanks :)
[01:13] <lubot> Thomas Ward was added by: Thomas Ward
[01:13] <lubot> <tsimonq2> HE'S HERE
[01:13] <lubot> <tsimonq2> :D
[01:14] <lubot> <Thomas Ward> :P
[01:14] <lubot> <miguel1mx> Welcome!
[01:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL95f08d167d57: Remove Gtk Spec.pdf as Qt one as Spec sheet.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL95f08d167d57
[01:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T115: Revamp Weblate] teward (Thomas Ward) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T115#2442
[02:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T115: Revamp Weblate] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T115#2444
[02:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T115: Revamp Weblate] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T115#2445
[02:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T107: Calamares testing] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T107#2446
[02:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2a15fcb62817: Add initial docs for multimonitor settings.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2a15fcb62817
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[03:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T115: Revamp Weblate] teward (Thomas Ward) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T115#2447
[05:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL91e6136fa1dc: Update translations with all languages Weblate supports.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL91e6136fa1dc
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[06:13] <tsimonq2> wxl: qtwebkit-opensource-src is in Cosmic UNAPPROVED now.
[06:14] <tsimonq2> I tested the fix from my PPA in a VM before uploading and it works fine.
[06:15] <tsimonq2> If LibreOffice continues to fail I will be confused as to why.
[06:17] <tsimonq2> If @Wafficus or @HMollerCl wants to take care of https://phab.lubuntu.me/T116 that would be great, otherwise I guess I'll do it tomorrow.
[06:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Cherry pick lxqt-config GUI fixes: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T116
[06:24] <lubot> bob was added by: bob
[06:24] <lubot> <bob> hello
[06:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf6043271d17a: Another crufty package to purge during update.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf6043271d17a
[07:21] <lubot> <human> ok
[10:15] <apt-ghetto> In the manual I am missing a chapter about "System Administration"
[10:17] <apt-ghetto> I was wondering how I can modify for example /etc/fstab with Featherpad. Is there something similar like the GVFS admin:// backend?
[10:19] <apt-ghetto> The only useful way to edit /etc/fstab was with sudoedit. What is the Lubuntu-Way to admin the system?
[10:37] <lubot> <marneu> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> The only useful way to edit /etc/fstab was with sudoedit. What is t …], lxqt-sudo is the equivalent of gksudo. 'sudo featherpad' works as well, though.
[10:44] <lubot> <aptghetto> sudo and lxqt-sudo do not change env variables which lead to problems e.g. the featherpad config file is owned by root etc
[10:46] <lubot> <aptghetto> gksudo has changed the env variables. But it is not necessary and not a good idea to run the whole GUI app as root
[10:51] <lubot> <marneu> @aptghetto [sudo and lxqt-sudo do not change env variables which lead to problems e.g. the f …], Oh hell, you're right. That's pretty bad. *sudo chowns their fp.conf*
[10:53] <lubot> <marneu> Looks like this doesn't happen with lxqt-sudo. But I admit that I'm not very knowledgable in sysadmin. I'm just a reddit mod who lurks the dev chat :D
[11:38] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> If @Wafficus or @HMollerCl wants to take care of https://phab.lubuntu …], I could look at it on Monday
[11:38] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @marneu [Looks like this doesn't happen with lxqt-sudo. But I admit that I'm not very kno …], Sudo -i works but only for some files
[12:00] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> @Wafficus [Ah I gotcha. Not gonna steal Wendy's thunder though lemme know if you want a new …], I'm a newbie myself 😉
[14:45] <lubot> <Wafficus> @TheWendyPower @HMollerCl hey guys since we're all newbies at it, let's tackle it together Monday night onward. Let me know what time works for you. I'm totally available 7:30 pm est USA onward on Monday night. Hans, I'm assuming you're in Europe right? What time works for you? Also goes for Wendy too
[14:45] <lubot> <Wafficus> @tsimonq2 could it wait until Monday night or is this urgent?
[14:47] <lubot> <Wafficus> @TheWendyPower btw, great job with the design work. I know I said it before but I am such a big fan of dark themes on everything to lower the stress on my eyes. I saw your photography site and am pretty impressed too. Keep up the good work.
[14:48] <lubot> <Wafficus> I only say this cause my job is so intense these days that I use the weekend to just wind down so I don't burn out and quit.
[14:51] <lubot> <Wafficus> Hopefully that doesn't come off as not being excited to work throughout the week nights for you guys though
[16:54] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @Wafficus [@tsimonq2 could it wait until Monday night or is this urgent?], Fine by me.
[17:31] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @Wafficus [@TheWendyPower @HMollerCl hey guys since we're all newbies at it, let's tackle i …], Actually I'm from South America, Chile. I'm not used to us Timezone, we use GMT here, GMT -3 is our current time
[17:32] <teward> Eastern US timezone is UTC-4 right now, in case it matters :P
[17:32] <teward> :P
[17:38] <tsimonq2> Eastern is UTC-4, Central is UTC-5, Mountain is UTC-6, Pacific is UTC-7
[17:38] <tsimonq2> In about a month though, those become:
[17:39] <tsimonq2> Eastern UTC-5, Central UTC-6, Mountain UTC-7, Pacific UTC-8
[17:39] <tsimonq2> (I think)
[17:39] <tsimonq2> teward is Eastern, I'm Central, @TheWendyPower is Mountain, and wxl is Pacific.
[18:15] <lubot> <teward001> Nov. 4th
[18:15] <lubot> <teward001> that's when DST is over and we all get another hour away from UTC in the US here
[18:15] <lubot> <teward001> :P
[18:15] <lubot> <tsimonq2> :P
[18:15] <lubot> <teward001> *knows things*
[18:17] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Failed to update repository: fatal: cannot mkdir /srv/weblate/lib/python3.6/site-packages/data/vcs/lubuntu/manual: Permission denied (128)
[18:17] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @teward001 fix it :P
[18:17] <lubot> <teward001> can't I enjoy five seconds to have another shot of espresso >.>
[18:17] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Nope
[18:17] <lubot> <tsimonq2> 😆
[18:17] <lubot> <teward001> @tsimonq2 standby.
[18:17] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Thanks
[18:17] <lubot> <teward001> @teward001 You can never have 5 seconds to get cofee muahahahahahah
[18:18] <lubot> <teward001> try now
[18:20] <lubot> <teward001> @tsimonq2 something about stupid system default perms are annoying
[18:20] <lubot> <teward001> i may have to ACL this to change the default umasks of how dirs and such are created 😐
[18:20] <lubot> <teward001> but we should be good now.
[18:22] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> @Wafficus [@TheWendyPower btw, great job with the design work. I know I said it before but …], Thanks! My schedule is all over the place. Thankfully if we are not on at the same time we can share thoughts, suggestions and ideas here.
[18:30] <lubot> <Wafficus> @TheWendyPower cool what I'll probably do is brainstorm a few ideas of what I think the average Lubuntu user would love to have, make a super simple qt mockup of it, share it as a repository on Lubuntus phabricator and well work from there. How does that sound teammates? @HMollerCl @TheWendyPower
[18:30] <lubot> <Wafficus> I'll be able to put that into motion tomorrow night
[18:32] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> That sounds good. I'll make a list of some of my ideas, especially with the look of it.
[18:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T115: Revamp Weblate] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T115#2450
[19:14] <tsimonq2> wxl: How good are you with regexp statements? :P
[19:15] <wxl> decent
[19:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: See this? https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-manual/browse/master/source/po/en-gb/LC_MESSAGES/ I need a regexp that matches all po files, which can be in source/po/LANG/LC_MESSAGES/ or source/po/LANG/LC_MESSAGES/*/ or source/po/LANG/LC_MESSAGES/*/*
[19:18] <wxl> what's the goal here.. where does this end up?
[19:18] <tsimonq2> Weblate.
[19:18] <tsimonq2> This plugin needs a regexp to match all po files to translate.
[19:20] <lubot> <tsimonq2> (Photo, 1280x1084) https://i.imgur.com/VM9pB8K.jpg
[19:21] <wxl> that ?P<something> must be their own syntax
[19:24] <apt-ghetto> (?P<NAME>pattern) is a named capture group => https://perldoc.perl.org/perlre.html at least if it is a PCRE
[19:24] <wxl> that first one reads like "some language" "any number of characters that's not a slash" "a slash" "some component" "any number of characters that's not a slash" ".po"
[19:25] <wxl> the [^/]/ seems like a strange overly convoluted construct
[19:25] <wxl> oh yeah i don't do pcre at all
[19:27] <wxl> i guess tht would explain the parens as they're otherwise just sort of unnecessary
[19:30] <wxl> are there going to be languages in here?
[19:30] <wxl> oh nevermind
[19:30] <wxl> reading your message too literally
[19:31] <wxl> or rather, reading correctly your poorly communicated message :)
[19:31] <apt-ghetto> in think [^/]* means every sign except the slash
[19:32] <wxl> source/po/(?P<language>[^/]*)/LC_MESSAGES/
[19:32] <wxl> that's the core at least
[19:32] <wxl> well
[19:32] <wxl> source/po/(?P<language>[^/]*)/LC_MESSAGES/(?P<component>[^/]*)\.po
[19:33] <tsimonq2> Except, we can't use component, because that will always be "manual"
[19:33] <wxl> so name it anything
[19:34] <tsimonq2> Worst case scenario we have to split this into like 20 different components like LXQt, but I don't wanna do that :/
[19:34] <wxl> but i don't know if weblate somehow requires a specific name
[19:34] <tsimonq2> I'm about ready to be lazy and just do that. XD
[19:35] <tsimonq2> wxl: Wanna figure this out or should I say "screw it" and take the easy way out?
[19:35] <wxl> i think we can figure out the regex
[19:36] <tsimonq2> mkay
[19:36] <wxl> i just don't know what implications their named captures have
[19:36] <wxl> so easy might be better
[19:36] <tsimonq2> So let's do it.
[19:36] <tsimonq2> I'll get that done, just give me a few :)
[20:17] <tsimonq2> So, adding this all individually got extremely tedious.
[20:18] <tsimonq2> I figured out I can just export a JSON file, replace it with whatever new things I want, and bam :D
[20:53] <lubot> <Wafficus> Doesnt that regex statement only mean to look for match that only starts with a slash character
[23:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd608fafe7e36: Useage for openbox settings including how to move titlebar buttons around.] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd608fafe7e36