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[04:10] <lubot> <LenCole> A option to turn off the touchpad if a mouse is attached (usb or bt) would be nice too
[04:42] <lubot> <ancha41> Why some application detected my Lubuntu as "Ubuntu"?
[04:55] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @ancha41 [Why some application detected my Lubuntu as "Ubuntu"?], Lubuntu is built on a rock-solid Ubuntu base.
[04:55] <lubot> <tsimonq2> So while we do a lot of customization, at the core it's an Ubuntu system.
[12:59] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> Hello folks
[13:00] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> I just installed Lubuntu 18.10 but now my SSD disappeared from BIOS boot order
[13:00] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> (Photo, 1280x960) https://i.imgur.com/gkkOr7q.jpg
[13:00] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> I guess I should not panic
[13:00] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> RIGHT?
[13:02] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> my pc is telling me: ... `No bootable device -- Please restart system`
[13:05] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> I found some stuff online about this error but it mentions UEFI and secure boot. This is not my case, in fact the problem is manifesting on a Acer Aspire 4810 from 2009
[13:09] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> (Photo, 1280x960) https://i.imgur.com/0EQdwYI.jpg
[13:09] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> although both hard drives are correctly detected
[14:23] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [although both hard drives are correctly detected], It' s a UEFI installation?
[14:23] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> no
[14:25] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [<reply to image>], go to security tab and check if legacy boot is enabled
[14:25] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> let me show you there is no legacy boot
[14:26] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> the whole computer is a legacy machine 😆
[14:27] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> (Photo, 1280x960) https://i.imgur.com/XCVy58v.jpg
[14:27] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [the whole computer is a legacy machine 😆], do you remember if you have changed the partition of grub installation? (it must be /dev/sda by default)
[14:28] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> it should be, let me double check booting from the usb again
[14:29] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [it should be, let me double check booting from the usb again], I don't know if boot-repair PPA is ready for 18.10 version. It' s a GUI tool to recover your GRUB and can be installed on Live USB
[14:39] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> I recall I installed the boot loader on /dev/sda
[14:44] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> trying to install again, will let you know. thanks for replying
[14:48] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [I recall I installed the boot loader on /dev/sda], Boot the live USB to try the grub-install command
[14:48] <lubot> <leandroramos> From qterminal, type `sudo fdisk -l`
[14:55] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> ok no luck
[14:56] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> @leandroramos [From qterminal, type sudo fdisk -l], how do I get into there?
[14:56] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [how do I get into there?], you can type "terminal" in menu
[14:57] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> oh sorry I didn't make it clear. I cannot even log into Lubuntu
[14:57] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [oh sorry I didn't make it clear. I cannot even log into Lubuntu], Log into live USB?
[14:57] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> oh, right
[14:58] <lubot> <leandroramos> We will try 3 commands with live USB terminal
[15:07] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> ok i'm ready
[15:07] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> @leandroramos [From qterminal, type sudo fdisk -l], should I start with this?
[15:08] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [should I start with this?], yes
[15:08] <lubot> <leandroramos> Let me see the result
[15:08] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> shall we switch to pvt?
[15:09] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [shall we switch to pvt?], It's better to do it here, so we can help the others
[15:09] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> o
[15:11] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> (Photo, 1366x768) https://i.imgur.com/hmIWgoi.jpg
[15:12] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> (Photo, 1366x768) https://i.imgur.com/OZ1Seuh.jpg
[15:13] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [<reply to image>], sda is the disk where you're installing lubuntu?
[15:13] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> yeah
[15:13] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> i've got 1804 in sda1 and 1810 in sda2
[15:15] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [i've got 1804 in sda1 and 1810 in sda2], Right. your boot partition is /dev/sda2 (the flag * on boot column). ... We will mount that partition with the command `sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2 /mnt`
[15:16] <lubot> <leandroramos> Next step - install grub in the mounted partition: ... `sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda`
[15:18] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> ok
[15:20] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> `lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2 /mnt ... lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda                                                                    ... Installing for i386-pc platform.                                                                                                       ..
[15:20] <lubot> . Installation finished. No error reported.`
[15:21] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sda2/mnt ... lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ sudo grub …], Right. Now reboot
[15:21] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> ok
[15:22] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> no luck
[15:22] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> still no bootable device
[15:22] <lubot> <leandroramos> (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/f8EQdBoD/file_4276.mp4
[15:24] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/buqI34Xi/file_4277.mp4
[15:25] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [still no bootable device], maybe some bios configuration
[15:25] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> i tried that, let me go through that again now
[15:25] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> thank anyway
[15:27] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [thanks anyway], You can try the same steps on 18.04 partition too, then the grub will be generate from there
[15:28] <lubot> <leandroramos> @leandroramos [You can try the same steps on 18.04 partition too, then the grub will be generat …], switching from sda2 to (probably) sdb1
[15:32] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [thanks anyway], With a 18.04 live USB, yout can use this GUI tool:  ... http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/11/install-boot-repair-ppa-fix-boot-problems/
[16:44] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> @leandroramos [switching from sda2 to (probably) sdb1], 1804 is on sda1
[17:13] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [1804 is on sda1], Oh, sorry :)
[17:16] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> anyway I tried doing the trick on sda1 but no joy
[17:16] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> @leandroramos [With a 18.04 live USB, yout can use this GUI tool:  ... http://ubuntuhandbook.org/in …], trying this now
[17:18] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [trying this now], The boot-repair PPA doesn't work with 18.10 (missing updates), but you can generate the 18.04 grub to fix (with luck)
[17:19] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> i am creating the startup disk with 1804
[17:19] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [i am creating the startup disk with 1804], 🤞🏼
[17:20] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> what's the next option? new partition table with only 1810?
[17:20] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> and if it fails, same but with 1804?
[17:22] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [what's the next option? new partition table with only 1810?], I could not figure out why "no bootable devices" appeared, but you can mount the grub partition (sda1 or 2) and check if there's a grub file in /boot folder
[17:24] <lubot> <leandroramos> @leandroramos [I could not figure out why "no bootable devices" appeared, but you can mount the …], after the "mount" command - `cd /mnt/boot` and `ls -la`
[17:31] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> got it
[17:32] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> running boot repair now
[17:36] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> `an error occurred during the repair`
[17:36] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> wanna see the log?
[17:42] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [wanna see the log?], yes
[17:43] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/Tu6soNLX/file_4279.txt
[17:58] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [<reply to image>], according to the log, the errors refers to sdc, and you can reboot
[18:11] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> I did but does not work as before
[18:36] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [I did but does not work as before], The problem is here:  ... `You can now reboot your computer. ... Please do not forget to make your BIOS boot on sda (ATA Samsung SSD 850) disk!`
[18:37] <lubot> <leandroramos> @leandroramos [The problem is here:  ... You can now reboot your computer. ... Please do not forget to …], The grub was installed, but SSD doesn't appear in boot option, and I don't know why
[18:39] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> I've researched a bit and noticed it happens with Acer and Toshiba apparently. Could it be a bios-related problem?
[18:40] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> Amway, if the problem is grub I could avoid it by just keeping a single is on the pc
[18:40] <lubot> <leandroramos> Your disk is connected to sata or ide?
[18:40] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> Sata
[18:40] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> Both
[18:42] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [<reply to image>], Can you show the main tab?
[18:42] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> (Photo, 1280x960) https://i.imgur.com/w8IVQfZ.jpg
[18:43] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> Probably deleting serial numbers was stupid
[18:44] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [<reply to image>], the next tab, MAIN
[18:44] <lubot> <leandroramos> (Photo, 640x480) https://i.imgur.com/mijsYMr.jpg I am looking for it
[18:45] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> Sorry
[18:45] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [Sorry], ok, I don't know if your bios has this option
[18:46] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/AsjUUgI.jpg
[18:48] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [<reply to image>], You can access the boot menu pressing F12 during Acer logo screen?
[18:49] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> Yes but displays no optiins
[18:49] <lubot> <leandroramos> :(
[18:49] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> (Photo, 1280x720) https://i.imgur.com/4Yt106A.jpg
[18:53] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> I did it
[18:54] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> I reset the bios settings and the drives were there again
[18:54] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> Simple as that
[18:55] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [<reply to image>], change the sata mode
[18:55] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [Simple as that], oh
[18:56] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [Simple as that], worked now?
[18:57] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> I can log into 1804, now restarting to test the 1810
[18:58] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> Grub is there
[19:02] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> 1810 operational!
[19:02] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> Thanks a lot for the assistance
[19:03] <lubot> <leandroramos> (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/E8Z2sAk2/file_4295.mp4
[19:03] <lubot> <leandroramos> @AlFXLogic [Thanks a lot for the assistance], So the problem was BIOS config 😂
[19:03] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> So the solution for disappeared drives from the boot order was simply reset bios settings, for anyone who might ever need it in the future.
[19:04] <lubot> <AlFXLogic> (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/KNfSGHVi/file_4296.mp4
[19:10] <wxl> wth. that is the weirdest thing i ever heard of.