[00:00] <Sven_vB> oh I see that was discussed already.
[00:35] <oft_gegong> hi everyone. So I got Lubuntu 18.10 with my nVidia GTX 1050 rollin'. I'm a gamer, and I love video resolutions. My problem is I don't understand how to configure my X11/xorg/nvidia graphics to automatically detect various resolutions with my laptop display. Can anyone help?
[00:36] <oft_gegong> Right now I'm at 1920x1080 resolution. I want to be able to switch to 800x600
[00:44] <oft_gegong> holy cow I did it!
[00:45] <oft_gegong> cvt 800 600 60; xrandr --newmode "800x600_60.00"   38.25  800 832 912 1024  600 603 607 624 -hsync +vsync  ;  xrandr --addmode eDP-1-1 800x600_60.00; xrandr --output eDP-1-1 --mode 800x600_60.00  #now I'm at 800x600 baby yeeaaaah
[00:56] <tripelb> lovely (not) Chrome has frozen twice in the last 2 days. 1. on 40 tabs, mostly opened from photos. Actually Ubuntu froze completely. 2. Today just now Chrome froze and Ubuntu reported an internal problem". I DID sent the report.  Then I have been advised to reboot. I wont, just to see what happens.   ---  To Whom It May Concern.
[00:56] <tripelb> 18.04 pretty vanilla.
[00:58] <tripelb> Also if it matters, I am connected ethernet and was disconneced in this IRC for 7 minutes 12 mins ago.
[00:58] <p7f> Hi, i've noticed that cheese application and other gstreamer based apps stoped working in ubuntu 18.04. Upgrading to ubuntu 18.10 did not fix the problem... anyone with same problem?
[00:59]  * oft_gegong shrugs
[01:12] <sebsebseb> hi
[01:42] <cliffm> I updated from 16.04 to 18.04 and my display manager will not let me login from physical connection.  I can still login using VNC and see my desktop.  The desktop I'm using is XFCE on Ubuntu Server.  I have replaced gdm3 with LightDM and after entering the correct password, it just loops.  Any ideas how to fix this?
[01:45] <Bashing-om> cliffm: What shows for a graphic's driver ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[01:47] <cliffm> VGA compatible controller
[01:48] <cliffm> I am connected via HDMI port directly on MB.
[01:49] <Bashing-om> cliffm: In the configuration line " configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0 " where in my case the nouveau driver is used .
[01:50] <cliffm> configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
[01:53] <Bashing-om> cliffm: Not a driver issue then , permissions ? ' ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority ' . where "you" are the owner and grouped .
[01:54] <cliffm> Bashing-om: both have permissions of 600
[02:03] <Bashing-om> cliffm: A positive result in restarting the panel ' xfce4-panel -r ' ?
[02:04] <Nelluk> ive been trying to figure out how to run a systemd service as a specific non-root user but i see conflicting answers. one page says that systemd is not used for user-level stuff. can anyone point me in the right direction? 16.04
[02:05] <cliffm> Bashing-om xfce4-panel: Cannot open display:
[02:08] <Bashing-om> cliffm: Hummm .. is the display even seen ' xfconf-query -c displays -p /Default -l -v ' ?
[02:08] <cliffm> /Default/default              default
[02:08] <cliffm> /Default/default/Active       true
[02:08] <cliffm> /Default/default/Position/X   0
[02:08] <cliffm> /Default/default/Position/Y   0
[02:08] <cliffm> /Default/default/Primary      false
[02:08] <cliffm> /Default/default/Reflection   0
[02:09] <Bashing-om> !paste | cliffm
[02:11] <cliffm> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dX8bxvbzc2/
[02:14] <Bashing-om> cliffm: Well, scrathing my head "/Default/default/Primary      false" . Have you changed the physical displays ?
[02:15] <cliffm> Bashing-om: Yes, I had it plugged into a 23" display and it is no longer working, so I have it plugged into a 55" display now.
[02:16] <Bashing-om> cliffm: think'n ... gimme a bit :)
[02:16] <cliffm> Bashing-om: Ok
[02:22] <Bashing-om> cliffm: I do not know yet the source of the issue . But, we can try resetting the display to default ?? see what other info we can gather ?
[02:29] <cliffm> Bashing-om: What is the downside to resetting the display?
[02:34] <Bashing-om> cliffm: I honestly do not know - I have never changed the display on a running system before. I do not know if the default will look for that original display ?
[02:37] <db> Hi. This is maybe partly off-topic but: I am looking for someone who can tell me how a blind person would use a website on Ubuntu. I'm working on a software project which has accessibility as a requirement, and I'm trying to get an idea how it works for the user.
[02:39] <Bashing-om> cliffm: Is lightdm going spastic ' lightdm --show-config ' ? in a pastebin . Again trying to see where the failure is .
[02:40] <cliffm> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j5GD3qtmzD/
[02:41] <Bashing-om> db: Ya want to catch TJ- online here .. He has extensive experience in "blind assets" .
[02:42] <db> Bashing-om: ok thanks
[02:43] <db> Bashing-om: TJ- that's the nick right?
[02:49] <Bashing-om> db: Correct . He is nost active in that realm .
[02:50] <db> Bashing-om: ok, thanks. Do you know at which times he is usually online?
[02:50] <Bashing-om> cliffm: Whilke I dither . I also run xfce, and my output for comparison: http://termbin.com/7vih .
[02:51] <Bashing-om> db: No, he has no regular time .
[02:51] <db> ok
[02:56] <cliffm> Bashing-om: Not sure what you are asking me from last message.
[02:58] <Bashing-om> cliffm: just showing you why I am dithering about . Have you tried to start the display from terminal ? ' startxfce4 ' .
[03:01] <cliffm> Bashing-om: Yes, but the desktop is already up.  Just can not log in without boot loop.
[03:01] <cliffm> Bashing-om: Not boot loop, password loop.
[03:09] <cliffm> Bashing-om: Thank you for your help.  Going to bed.
[03:10] <Bashing-om> cliffm: K; will pick this back up later . gotta be a reason .
[03:11] <cliffm> Bashing-om: Thank you.
[04:00] <lazerlemon> ..........................
[04:00] <lazerlemon> .................................
[04:01] <ryuo> lazerlemon: oh my. that sounds serious.
[04:01] <lazerlemon> does this channel have chat
[04:01] <lazerlemon> like does this CHATroom
[04:01] <lazerlemon> HAVE CHAT
[04:01] <lazerlemon> does it have
[04:02] <lazerlemon> CHAT!!!!!!!!!
[04:02] <ryuo> lazerlemon: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:02] <DalekSec> lazerlemon: No, this is a support channel.
[04:09] <n35xdxb0> hey, does anyone know if there's a way of seeing the remaining battery life of a connected bluetooth device on ubuntu? like for my connected bluetooth headphones?
[04:11] <anaira> Hello! I was wondering if someone can help me debug converting an .rpm package into .deb using alien? I'm trying to install Maya 2017 onto Ubuntu 18.04 and I keep running into  chmod: invalid option errors.
[04:17] <db> anaira: this one says 16.04 but did you try it? https://gist.github.com/borgfriend/b83467639cb8039dc79974bf780a4994
[04:17] <db> it doesn't use the RPM aparrently
[04:29] <Vashy> hi all is there a place I can look up what some of these hidden files/folders in my home directory are?
[04:29] <Vashy> or is it just something I have to individually search up?
[04:30] <Vashy> e.g. I see there's a hidden directory: ".nv" with a bunch of sub dirs that are just some crypto hashes with data files in them
[04:30] <Vashy> idk if it's safe to delete or not
[04:30] <Vashy> I see two directories in there named: "ComputeCache" and "GLCache"
[04:30] <Vashy> I'm guessing it's an nvidia thing
[04:30] <Vashy> since I have an nvidia gfx card
[04:32] <db> Vashy: there are some "standard" folders but generally you can just google them - right, .nv is some nvidia cache.
[04:32] <bmore> no reason to del
[04:33] <Vashy> so I'm trying to use git to track my home directory and just did "git init" but there are a ton of hidden files/directories in the home directory that I know nothing about
[04:33] <Vashy> there must be a better way to organize all this
[04:33] <Vashy> I've been using ubuntu for almost 2 years now but I'm still pretty noobish
[04:50] <aidrocsid> Can I put an ubuntu USB installer on half a thumb drive or does it strictly have to take the whole thing?
[04:52] <bmore> partition shouldnt be an issue as long as its bootable
[04:52] <aidrocsid> What would you use to do that? When I use the startup cd creator it wants to take the whole thing and doesn't give me options.
[04:52] <aidrocsid> IIRC unetbootin isn't a thing anymore
[04:55] <bmore> theres dozens out there if you want gui
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> aidrocsid: multisystem can drag n drop multiple iso's on an usb stick
[04:56] <aidrocsid> ty
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> aidrocsid: just keep in mind its not officially supported
[04:57] <aidrocsid> Cool
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> aidrocsid: another way could be create your usb stick full with ubuntu, and just use the space left on for other data
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> aidrocsid: or, after you installed ubuntu just wipe your install stick and use it full for data
[04:59] <aidrocsid> Not a bad idea, already got a win10 installer on half of it though
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> aidrocsid: after you installed ubuntu, you will quick forget about windows :p
[05:00] <aidrocsid> I've been running Ubuntu exclusively since like july or something
[05:00] <aidrocsid> Mushkin is having a hard time sending me a working replacement SSD lol
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> cool, welcome to the ubuntu community aidrocsid
[05:01] <aidrocsid> Heh, thanks. I've missed windows much less than in th past now that Proton is a thing and so many games run natively
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> aidrocsid: see also: steam,wine,playonlinux and the #gamingonlinux channel
[05:02] <aidrocsid> I have a VPS with ubuntu too
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> aidrocsid: there's alot of virtual gaming cloud services on any device too these days rising
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> aidrocsid: feel free to join #ubuntu-discuss so we leave the channel free for support
[05:03] <Vashy> aidrocsid, checkout Lutris as well #lutris
[05:07] <Asad2005> tomreyn: I managed to login GUI on mate desktop but have some problems, when i click the liferea icon it logs me out, the greeter resolution is taking my 4k TV as i have the monitor and tv connected to my AGP
[05:07] <Asad2005> tomreyn: How can i change my greeter resolution lightdm?
[05:16] <Vashy> I just noticed my .cache/thumbnails directory stores thumbnails of pictures/videos on my machine
[05:16] <Vashy> is there a way to disable that? I don't want a cache of any risque pictures saved =)
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> Vashy: i cleanout system with bleachbit always
[05:17] <Vashy> hmm seems sketch, reminds me of that oldschool thing ccleaner
[05:18] <Vashy> is there a way to tell the OS to just not store a cache?
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> Vashy: as lons as you use a computer, it always will leave traces right
[05:19] <tiggster79> Vashy: https://askubuntu.com/questions/518889/how-to-disable-thumbnail-generation
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> Vashy: you can tweak here and there, but clean & maintainance always good
[05:19] <tiggster79> or you can setup a cron job to delete it as a specific interval
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> Vashy: there is browsing cache too, tmp files, checkout bleachbit to learn what kind of files your computer stores at wich folders
[05:41] <kalikatz> just did an apt install ssh, and unable to locate the banner page shown just after login to edit it. Does anyone know the location of said banner or msg?
[05:43] <EriC^^> kalikatz: /etc/update-motd.d
[05:44] <kalikatz> ty EriC^^
[06:05] <Vashy> when I installed ubuntu 16.04 a couple years ago, I chose to use ecrypt to encrypt my home directory
[06:05] <Vashy> but it looks like it's taking up a ton of my ssd's space
[06:05] <Vashy> is there a way to "undo" it?
[06:06] <tiggster79> Vashy: depends on what you mean by undo
[06:06] <Vashy> https://imgur.com/a/jIYmeEr
[06:08] <Vashy> I don't want everything to be encrypted I guess
[06:08] <Vashy> it's been more of a headache than I realized
[06:09] <tiggster79> just mount a different partition as home and copy your home directory contents into it
[06:10] <Vashy> I'm not sure what that means :x
[06:35] <SuperLag> If I want to look at login failures for the UI, which log should I be looking at?
[06:35] <SuperLag> Since I installed CrashPlan SMB, I'm having issues logging in to my desktop, and it makes no sense.
[07:11] <banyantree> Hi Guys
[07:12] <banyantree> I've installed powerline and fonts-powerline, but urxvt does not use the powerline fonts
[07:12] <banyantree> can somebody please help?
[07:27] <ducasse> banyantree: have you configured urxvt to use the powerlline font?
[07:28] <pragomer> I am using an install-script for distro-hopping. can I automatically install virtualbox and mscorefonts without interaction (accepting the license) ?
[07:29] <banyantree> ducasse: i think i missed the urxvt font configuration, is it in .XResources ?
[07:29] <ducasse> banyantree: yep
[07:30] <ducasse> banyantree: iirc, you configure a primary font and set the powerline font as secondary. been a while since i messed with this.
[07:31] <banyantree> ducasse: thx ill try to set the font in there
[07:32] <ducasse> banyantree: put them on the same line, separated by a comma. fairly sure that should work.
[07:34] <banyantree> ducasse: ah, this is how it works, i wondered why there are more than one font set
[07:35] <ducasse> banyantree: the feature is there to support several character sets
[07:41] <banyantree> ducasse: big thx dude - its working fine =D
[07:43] <ducasse> banyantree: great, yw :)
[08:17] <mohsen_1> How to make apt use a different mirror?
[08:18] <lotus|NUC> mohsen_1: tell us what you are trying to do please
[08:19] <mohsen_1> lotus|NUC: the current mirror it's using is actually quite slow, takes much long to respond
[08:19] <lotus|NUC> mohsen_1: could you pastebin: sudo apt update please?
[08:20] <mohsen_1> Ign:4 http://ir.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/main amd64 libatk-wrapper-java all 0.33.3-20ubuntu0.1
[08:20] <mohsen_1> 53% [Waiting for headers] It's stock in there
[08:20] <mohsen_1> lotus|NUC: ok on it
[08:24] <mohsen_1> lotus|NUC: Here's the output https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wB8XXxY5mW/
[08:25] <lotus|NUC> mohsen_1: you have a router or firewall that could block connection?
[08:25] <mohsen_1> lotus|NUC: I don't think so
[08:25] <lotus|NUC> mohsen_1: ok join #ubuntu-mirrors perhaps, see if there's issues from iran repos
[08:26] <mohsen_1> lotus|NUC: ok, can I change the mirror as a temporary and quick workaround?
[08:26] <lotus|NUC> !sources | mohsen_1
[08:26] <mohsen_1> To a close country
[08:26] <tachikomas> Hello. I identified a bug in 18.04.1 LTS with the kernel 4.18.16, i would like to report it, where can i do it ?
[08:27] <lotus|NUC> tachikomas: 18.04 has kernel 4.15
[08:27] <tachikomas> I know.
[08:27] <tachikomas> but 4.18 give interesting powersaving features.
[08:29] <tomf> anybody have a two finger tap to right click with mtrack?
[08:32] <lotus|NUC> tachikomas: you can always ubuntu-bug against the kernel if you like
[08:32] <mohsen_1> lotus|NUC: does changing country codes in the urls do the job?
[08:33] <mohsen_1> in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:36] <lotus|NUC> mohsen_1: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-select-the-fastest-apt-mirror-on-ubuntu-linux
[08:37] <tachikomas> ok. i do that :) Thank you lotus|NUC
[08:38] <tachikomas> Have a second bug, not kernel related, about my lid cover on my X230 runing all up to date ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS (4.15 aswell)
[08:38] <tachikomas> its like the lid button always stay open.
[08:39] <tachikomas> checked in the forums, trying to uncomment some lines in login.conf, as well as checking for hardware problems with another os, it's just not working.
[08:39] <tachikomas> (but it work on a W10 ;) )
[08:39] <mohsen_1> lotus|NUC: changed them to us, and it's working
[08:43] <lotus|NUC> !yay | mohsen_1
[10:28] <voltagex> hi, is there a way I can view every process causing disk activity on my system?
[10:28] <voltagex> (on Ubuntu Server)
[10:40] <tomreyn> voltagex: there's iotop, maybe not exactly what you want, but it should get close
[10:46] <tomreyn> maybe try sudo iotop -oqqqtP
[10:50] <Nelluk> ive been trying to figure out how to run a systemd service as a specific non-root user but i see conflicting answers. one page says that systemd is not used for user-level stuff. can anyone point me in the right direction? 16.04
[10:57] <voltagex> tomreyn: looking at a set of tools called bcc now
[10:58] <voltagex> next question, 18GB of 32GB of RAM is in use but nothing I can see in htop is jumping out at me as the culprit (I know this isn't a problem, but I'd like to know sooner if I need 64GB of RAM)
[11:12] <TheWild> hello
[11:13] <TheWild> how to run Volume Control when I'm on i3? https://manual.audacityteam.org/man/tutorial_recording_computer_playback_on_linux.html
[11:15] <ledeni> TheWild: run 'alsamixer'
[11:17] <ducasse> TheWild: you can set up keybindings to raise/lower volume, or use something like pasystray to get an applet in your tray
[11:19] <ledeni> TheWild: or install 'pavucontrol ' and run it
[11:20] <TheWild> I've command for setting volume  (amixer -D pulse sset Master "$1"), but I though I can run the GUI version of volume control from command line
[11:20] <TheWild> is that hardcoded to that other desktop environment?
[11:20] <ledeni> TheWild: yes pavucontrol
[11:21] <TheWild> ok, installing and testing
[11:22] <TheWild> works! And it seems to be exactly the same menu I had in Unity DE. How odd I had to install pavucontrol.
[11:22] <TheWild> thanks ledeni and ducasse
[11:23] <ledeni>  TheWild you're welcome
[11:23] <TheWild> btw, it was in the tutorial but I just didn't read carefully
[11:23] <TheWild> I'm becoming a "tl;dr" person
[11:24] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:39] <TheWild> that's really weird stuff happening. When I run audacity before pavucontrol, I still have this problem, but when I run pavucontrol first, then audacity, everything just works.
[11:40] <TheWild> btw, I just found out parec. Yikes, it captures audio samples, raw as beef and sends them to standard output, or to file if specified.
[12:03] <medard> hi guys, How do I install .debian.tar.xz file?
[12:05] <OerHeks> medard, unpack it, and read the read.me in that archive
[12:06] <banyantree> Hi Guys, I'd like to use polybar with Font Awesome - but no Icons are displayed. It says Could not find glyph for xxxx
[12:08] <banyantree> Ive installed Font Awesome 5 Free/Brands. my polybar font line says:font-1 =Font Awesome 5 Free:style=
[12:08] <banyantree> Regular:size=10;0
[12:08] <medard> OerHeks, there isn't read.me :( It's a libzip package.https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/libzip4
[12:08] <banyantree> i found the font via fc-match
[12:10] <OerHeks> medard, use the libzip4 from our repos then? you must have a reason to use an other package, maybe you need to compile it too, i don't know
[12:10] <pticochon> hi
[12:11] <kedarapte> Somehow not able to add network in Polari in Ubuntu 18.10
[12:11] <kedarapte> anyone facing similar issue? It is getting intalled but when I click on + sign it shows me free node but does not show me Add button
[12:40] <VlanX> Ok, so I've just updatedo to the latest version of 18-04
[12:41] <VlanX> Inside a window or the browser, I can scroll my mouse wheel down and the window pans down
[12:42] <VlanX> however, to control the volume, I must scroll the wheel UP to LOWER the volume down
[12:42] <VlanX> I mean, are Ubuntu programmers snorting cocaine or smth?
[12:42] <VlanX> what's that all about?
[12:43] <kumool> sounds like bad setup
[12:43] <kumool> did you set the mouse well?
[12:43] <OerHeks> did you snort?
[12:46] <CookieM> the ups and downs of upgrading to another release, I experienced similar symptoms before, that’s why I prefer a clear install
[12:47] <kumool> yeah but down is up now so if he did things the right way it will come as the wrong way
[12:49] <OerHeks> if i scroll up, the volume goes up, 18.04.1
[12:49] <OerHeks> so, again: did you snort something?
[12:50] <kumool> OerHeks, relax, we clearly know ubuntu devs dont snort cocaine, those are the fedora guys
[12:53] <CookieM> according to 4chan, fedora wearing guys snort only pulverized tears of their foes
[12:55] <karjala_> If you have 100 servers, what's the recommended way to apt update and dist-upgrade them without wasting all month doing so one-by-one?
[12:56] <kumool> hire 100 people to apt update each server
[12:57] <OerHeks> !landscape
[12:57] <DJones> CookieM: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[12:57] <karjala_> ubottu, that costs though, right? thanks, let me check that out
[12:57] <karjala_> a
[13:26] <Asad2005> tomreyn: Can i pastebin Xorg.0.log (this was the newest file per ls -l) for you to have a look at?
[13:26] <Sven_vB> VlanX, I have a similar problem with pavucontrol's volume sliders. they go horizontally from silent (left) to loud (right), and the up/down keys are mapped like in single line text edit boxes, i.e. the up key goes to the left.
[13:28] <Sven_vB> VlanX, I guess that text editing-like behavior wants to remind us that GTK is ready for the desktop and Linux doesn't have to be text-based these days. ;)
[13:28] <Sven_vB> solution: alsamixer in xterm
[13:29] <BluesKaj> pavucontrol can be controlled with a mouse or touchpad
[13:29] <Sven_vB> like, why would anyone ever want to control a graphical application by keyboard
[13:30] <Asad2005> Can someone please help me resolve this error "AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/swrast_dri.so failed"
[13:30] <BluesKaj> Sven_vB, sarcasm doesn't help
[13:31] <Sven_vB> BluesKaj, I know, I'm still working on fixing Ubiquity.
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Sven_vB, good luck with that :-)
[13:32] <Sven_vB> thanks!
[13:33] <Sven_vB> it's a bit frustating that the only reply to my "let's make this easier to debug" was a bot closing the question because noone was interested. guess I'm gonna have to make my own lonesome maintenance fork.
[13:41] <BluesKaj> oddly enough, ubiquity ran just fine a few weeks ago on a 10 yr old HP desktop installing Kubuntu 18.04
[13:43] <Sven_vB> yeah it running fine in most of the cases probably is the main excuse for handling the failure case this badly.
[13:43] <jamie12> hey, I'm just curious as I have sadly been on Windows for a year for software reasons. what version of gnome is 18.10 is it using and what display server is it using?
[13:44] <jamie12> if not x11 im gonna have some work to do :/
[13:44] <Sven_vB> for a moment I was tempted to activate my browser and research it for you. :P
[13:45] <Sven_vB> I'll fire up a live session, I'll need it later anyway
[13:46] <jamie12> a friend of mine 100% linux noob is thinking of dealing their encoding rig to linux for the drastically less overhead but if it's on Wayland or Mir it's gonna be a bit of work to set everything up for them
[13:47] <jamie12> would explain the extreme slowness in OBS they were expirencing
[13:48] <BluesKaj> jamie12, X11 is still default...wayland is an option
[13:48] <Sven_vB> jamie12, video encoding? like avconv?
[13:48] <jamie12> okay, that leaves OBS itself, which I can work with
[13:49] <jamie12> probably gonna need to compile it from scratch and do ffmpeg
[13:49] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg still works fine
[13:50] <Sven_vB> it's avconv nowadays. and I read it supports render farms, so you don't need to burden the render rig with any GUI at all.
[13:50] <jamie12> I figured that, but stock OBS from the apt-get is always doodoo
[13:51] <jamie12> need a gui though for obs
[13:51] <Sven_vB> maybe you can find a PPA
[13:51] <Sven_vB> can't OBS use a remote avconv server?
[13:51] <jamie12> actually yes, now that I think about it
[13:54] <Sven_vB> my live session says [gnome] Version      = 1:3.22+9 State        = not installed [gnome-core] Version      = 1:3.22+9 State        = not installed
[13:55] <jamie12> @Sven_B what is the performance consumption for avconv remote on a PC?
[13:55] <Sven_vB> ah, it's [gnome-shell]
[13:55] <Sven_vB> Version      = 3.28.3-0ubuntu0.18.04.2
[13:55] <Sven_vB> State        = installed (3.28.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1)
[13:55] <Sven_vB> jamie12, I don't understand the question.
[13:57] <jamie12> but which version, gnome gnome or gnome metacity
[13:57] <tomreyn> Asad2005: i can, once you've posted it, not before ;)
[13:58] <tomreyn> Asad2005: please also sum up the issue again, my memory is short-lived
[13:58] <jamie12> and Sven_B running the remote avconv is it resource intensive or very light weight?
[13:59] <Sven_vB> jamie12, I never checked. I just assume and hope that the cost of avconv is negligible compared to the codecs it runs.
[14:00] <tomreyn> !pastebinit | Asad2005
[14:00] <jamie12> I just need to make sure impact on remote system is minimal
[14:01] <jamie12> well, on the started acting as a remote
[14:01] <Sven_vB> ?? the remote system would be your render rig, so avconv and its codecs should have maximum impact, ideally be the only thing the rig does at all.
[14:02] <Sven_vB> maybe minor control traffic via network
[14:03] <jamie12> I mean impact on the system accessing it as a remote
[14:03] <Sven_vB> probably the same as editing the video locally, minus most of the codec work.
[14:04] <Asad2005> tomreyn: please look at the log in this link http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4GRP2Trgqr/
[14:04] <Sven_vB> so depends on what kind of video editor you use. if you use just an SSH session to issue avconv commands manually, very low impact. ;)
[14:05] <jamie12> I specifically need obs
[14:05] <Asad2005> tomreyn: I was having problem logging in to my ubuntu GUI after upgrade to 18.10, lightdm greeter issue resolved and now i can only login to mate desktop
[14:05] <Sven_vB> then all of OBS minus lots of the codec work.
[14:06] <jamie12> that's fine, as long as I can figure out how to run it
[14:07] <Sven_vB> if you intend to capture local av with software, you'll probably max out even a somewhat impressive network link.
[14:07] <Asad2005> tomreyn: In mate desktop liferea app is crashing and logging me out
[14:07] <jamie12> the machine accessing it will be Windows and is generating all of the content being encoded all I need to make sure it will be minimal impact on the machine
[14:08] <Asad2005> tomreyn: all other sessions when selected it goes back to greeter in few seconds
[14:10] <Asad2005> tomreyn: The following sessions are on my system "cairo-dock.desktop  gnome-classic.desktop  gnome.desktop  gnome-xorg.desktop  mate.desktop  ubuntu.desktop"
[14:10] <Asad2005> tomreyn: and only mate desktop working
[14:12] <Sven_vB> jamie12, it's all about how your video and audio signal is transmitted to the render rig. if you render rig has hardware to receive and forward HDMI and S/PDIF, there should be no more impact than with a regular screen. if you try to squeeze the uncompressed data through ethernet, the network card will probably explode. ;)
[14:12] <tomreyn> Asad2005: thanks for the summary. so the log you posted, which file does it originate from?
[14:13] <tomreyn> Asad2005: also it looks like you only posted the (EE) records, please post the full log instead
[14:14] <jamie12> right now we're trying to squeeze as much performance out of a threadripper 2950x as we can Sven_B
[14:14] <Sven_vB> jamie12, from what I hear, obs is very cumbersome on users' time effort. so it might be more efficient investing the obs config and annoyance work into a pay job instead, and buy capture hardware from that.
[14:14] <jamie12> we're aiming for next to perfect encoding
[14:14] <Asad2005> tomreyn: grep -F '(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:15] <tomreyn> Asad2005: please do: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:15] <jamie12> we have all the hardware, it's more of a software thing at this point... and getting a Logitech brio running right on Linux lol
[14:16] <Sven_vB> now that I think of it, when I hear about people using OBS for local capture they usually don't even try to encode it live. they record uncompressed av to a hard disk and then encode it later.
[14:16] <Asad2005> tomreyn: full log is in http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2T3xbZCGRt/
[14:17] <jamie12> Sven_B this is for live capture and encoding proposes
[14:18] <Sven_vB> like realtime streaming?
[14:18] <jamie12> yes
[14:18] <jamie12> that's why the need for extreme optimizations
[14:18] <jamie12> and 18 cores lol
[14:19] <jamie12> that's why we want linux as the windows os overhead is painful
[14:20] <Sven_vB> I realize "local" was to unspecific. what are the video and audio sources?
[14:21] <Sven_vB> e.g. is it a screencast, or are cameras involved?
[14:24] <jamie12> Sven HDMI capture, browser source and Logitech brio
[14:27] <Sven_vB> ok so brio is a webcam. that can probably be connected directly to the render rig as to not burden the browser machine. a browser used for regular websites should have low enough fps as to not burden the network link very much either. what's the HDMI capture?
[14:28] <jamie12> not sure yet, waiting on her to get back to me, it's not locally on the rig though which makes it interesting
[14:28] <tomreyn> Asad2005: do you have, in /etc/X11/ , a file or directory which starts with 'xorg'?
[14:28] <Sven_vB> if it's acceptable to have worse quality in the preview, you could consider running the browser on the render rig, capture it there in high quality and view it on the interactive machine in low-res via some VNC-y remote control software.
[14:28] <jamie12> to me this is a fun challenge to work out, I still need to figure out how to get 1080p60 from the webcam
[14:29] <m5w> Hello.  A program that captures my mouse and keyboard crashed.  What can I do to kill it?
[14:30] <Sven_vB> m5w, SSH in, issue kill command
[14:30] <Sven_vB> if it's still grabbing the input focus, it's probably not crashed enough yet.
[14:30] <m5w> Sven_vB, I don't think I ever set up an SSH server on my laptop
[14:31] <db> m5w: can you get to a console by pressing  ctrl+alt+f2 ?
[14:31] <db> kill it from there.
[14:31] <m5w> db, already tried that
[14:31] <db> go back to UI with ctrl alt f7
[14:31] <tomreyn> Asad2005: if so, rename it so it wont be found, and reboot, then post Xorg.0.log again
[14:31] <m5w> actually UI is on ctrl+alt+f1 now :)
[14:31] <db> for me it's still on f7
[14:31] <db> idk
[14:32] <m5w> I also tried spamming ctrl+alt+delete to try to get the 7 times within 2 seconds reboot, bit that didn't work
[14:32] <Sven_vB> m5w, you could try hack your own box then. or reboot and install SSH. there are so many cases where you'd want to have a back door when the main graphics fail.
[14:32] <db> well if rebooting is a solution you can just powercycle your laptop
[14:33] <Sven_vB> m5w, does numlock still toggle?
[14:33] <m5w> Sven_vB, nope
[14:33] <Asad2005> tomreyn: only xorg.conf.failsafe
[14:35] <Asad2005> tomreyn: but there are somefiles starting with X like Xsession ..etc
[14:35] <someone_> why play twitter video increases usage and heat of cpu ?
[14:35] <jamie12> Sven_B it won't be the end of the world if I have to run a ui locally
[14:36] <jamie12> I just want to make sure there is 100% control of OBS on one of the systems as the user is nowhere near experienced with command line
[14:36] <Sven_vB> m5w, you could still try the magic sysrg. one time where rebooting would have been reeeeeeally costly, and I knew the problem was OOM, I issued the OOM sysrq a few times, waited and prayed. about half an hour later the system was responsive enough again to clean up the debris manually.
[14:37] <m5w> ah!
[14:37] <m5w> sysreq worked
[14:37] <Sven_vB> m5w, however, if you didn't install SSH, I guess you didn't enable sysrq either
[14:37] <m5w> the problem was that I wasn't pressing alt before
[14:37] <someone_> why play twitter video increases usage and heat of cpu ? and what is the solution ? I'm using kubuntu 16.04
[14:37] <Sven_vB> yeah one part of enabling sysrq is testing which keys really trigger it. :)
[14:38] <jamie12> I know I can get everything set up, biggest thing is gonna be getting the webcam running at 1080p60
[14:38] <Sven_vB> someone_, decoding web video is somewhat math heavy.
[14:39] <Sven_vB> jamie12, once you get it to run in guvcview, you can use its settings for avconv
[14:39] <someone_> Sven_vB but this is not a problem on windows , why ?
[14:39] <tomreyn> Asad2005: opy this to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and reboot  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PVPFsmPYdC/
[14:40] <Sven_vB> someone_, might be about graphics drivers then. maybe your twitter browser runs software rendering for the video pixels.
[14:41] <someone_> my GPU is intel 4000 hd and its drivier tool is installed .
[14:44] <Asad2005> tomreyn: ok i will reboot and see thanks
[14:50] <Asad2005> tomreyn: Same issue
[14:51] <tomreyn> Asad2005: okay, it seemed worth a try. please run: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf; dpkg -l '*amdgpu*' '*rocm*' 2>&1 | pastebinit; ls -la /usr/bin/amdgpu* /var/opt/amdgpu* 2>&1 | pastebinit
[14:52] <tomreyn> Asad2005: also this: sudo ls -la /boot | pastebinit
[14:56] <jamie12> Sven_B issue with the Logitech brio is getting the os itself to run it at 60fps
[14:56] <Asad2005> tomreyn: ok these are links http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CS92V37PDv/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CzTPXzSHQN/ , http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tymhxF8sGr/
[14:56] <tomreyn> Asad2005: and also:  sudo apt install libgl1-mesa-dri; dpkg -l '*mesa*' | pastebinit           then reboot again
[14:56] <jamie12> issue is zero Linux support from Logitech for the said 4k camera
[14:57] <Asad2005> libgl1-mesa-dri is already the newest version (18.2.2-0ubuntu1)
[14:58] <tomreyn> Asad2005: ok, weirtd. you can also remove this leftover: sudo rm /usr/bin/amdgpu-uninstall
[14:58] <Asad2005> tomreyn: and this one is last pastebin link http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/j4Ksp4YTzY/
[15:00] <tomreyn> Asad2005: sudo apt purge mir-client-platform-mesa2 libopenvg1-mesa
[15:01] <Asad2005> tomreyn: ok purged
[15:02] <CoolerZ> does ubuntu have a bluetooth blacklist?
[15:04] <tomreyn> Asad2005: does the file  /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/swrast_dri.so exist?
[15:05] <tomreyn> Asad2005: sudo apt-get install --reinstall -y libgl1-mesa-dri 2>&1 | pastebinit
[15:06] <tomreyn> Asad2005: then post the pastebin output, reboot again, tell me whether there are any improvements.
[15:08] <Asad2005> tomreyn: the swart_dri.so file exists yes
[15:09] <jamie12> would be able to write output to a revolving file so to speak? like as you record and write to the file, read write then delete it
[15:09] <tomreyn> Asad2005: okay that's strange because your Xorg.0.log reported that it does not exist.
[15:10] <Asad2005> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jjgrmPyKTr/
[15:11] <Asad2005> tomreyn: shall i reboot and see
[15:11] <tomreyn> Asad2005: ok, you can reboot now. if there are still no improvements after reboot: reboot again, but to recovery menu, use the last menu option to drop to a root shell, then create a new user 'test' with a secure password using " adduser test --gecos '' ". then press ctrl-d (or type exit, to have the boot continue, then login as this new user on the graphical desktop using your preferred session.
[15:12] <Sven_vB> jamie12, and then read the file and send its data to the encoding rig?
[15:13] <basalt> hi, after upgrade, the shell on top left display no blue line on the sound and screen brightness sliders, i selected the Yaru theme
[15:17] <Asad2005> tomreyn: what is the --gecos option for ? and the ''
[15:18] <tomreyn> Asad2005: so that it doesn't ask you about the users' location, office, pphone number etc. you can also omit " --gecos '' " and just press enter for every prompts except for the password.
[15:20] <Asad2005> tomreyn: ok thanks i will try
[15:21] <jamie12> Sven_B on the rig itself, I don't think I'm gonna get it working with direct interacted with OBS but I know I can if I write to file
[15:22] <jamie12> I can just read as media source local file
[15:26] <jamie12> one sec, swapping to desktop client
[15:27] <lotus|NUC> basalt: install gnome-tweak-tool, change themes and set back to yaru, see if your issue persist?
[15:27] <JustDev_> Hi everyone
[15:27] <lotus|NUC> welcome JustDev_
[15:27] <Asad2005> tomreyn: Thank you it worked after reboot old user name ubuntu session, i will see if liferea is working or not
[15:27] <jamie1> okay, back
[15:27] <jamie1> swapped to my primary account
[15:28] <tomreyn> Asad2005: very well, post xorg.0.log again if you like, and "glxinfo -B" since oyu may still be software rendering (i.e. no 3d acceleration)
[15:30] <jamie1> Sven_B any ideas on how i could create a buffer file to read from that will work as a buffer and not just strait record taking up uber amouts of space due to 1080p60
[15:32] <Asad2005> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jdYvPWwSXy/
[15:33] <mkl7778_> Hello, I have some issue with a new conf, The system is booting, ssh okay, but black screen, no desktop...
[15:33] <mkl7778_> X79, UEFI, no CSM, ubuntu 14.04.5 live, no CSM, I tried everything from nomodeset, gfx modes, handoff, ects...
[15:33] <Asad2005> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZMQc9wZmDQ/
[15:34] <lotus|NUC> mkl7778_: your graphics card chipset?
[15:35] <tomreyn> Asad2005: looks fine now, you have 3d acceleration. there's still one error in xorg, but i assume it's benign if everything's working.
[15:36] <Asad2005> tomreyn: thanks a lot indeed
[15:36] <mkl7778_> 3 x RX 460 + 1 x RX 550, UEFI appear on RX 550, I am on my way to keep only one GFX.
[15:38] <tomreyn> you'Re welcome, Asad
[15:38] <lotus|NUC> mkl7778_: yeah one card for 1 computer would be an idea
[15:57] <zetheroo> does anyone know how to debug Gthumb in Ubuntu 18.04?
[16:00] <lotus|NUC> zetheroo: explain the problem to the channel please, details can matter to get help here
[16:03] <zetheroo> lotus|NUC: I experience gthumb freezing up after some time of using it to edit photos. My whole system then freezes up, and sometimes gthumb finally closes, or the system locks up and has to be cold restarted.
[16:04] <lotus|NUC> zetheroo: on wich ubuntu version does this occur please?
[16:04] <lotus|NUC> oh nvm
[16:05] <lotus|NUC> zetheroo: can you launch gthumb from terminal, to see if you can catch errors on it?
[16:06] <zetheroo> I tried that already.
[16:06] <lotus|NUC> zetheroo: no errors?
[16:06] <zetheroo> no
[16:07] <lotus|NUC> zetheroo: how about when you: tail -f /var/log/syslog ? errors there?
[16:07] <jragon> I'm trying to add the mognodb gpg key, but I'm getting an error saying the dirmngr cannot connect: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GyWFhSdWfT/
[16:08] <jragon> dirmngr is installed
[16:09] <zetheroo> lotus|NUC: I'll try to get it to crash again and have a look at syslog as it happens.
[16:11] <gpunk> zetheroo: how much ram do you have ?
[16:13] <zetheroo> gpunk: 8GB
[16:22] <lotus|NUC> zetheroo: can you reproduce the crash in any way?
[16:24] <zetheroo> lotus|NUC: basically it just happens after using gthumb for a while - it starts getting sketchy bit by bit, until it completely locks up the system. I am using it now and it should happen after a while :)
[16:25] <lotus|NUC> zetheroo: im testing right here, in syslog getting a few modeset lines, no usefull errors
[16:28] <lotus|NUC> zetheroo: overall smoothness here
[16:28] <zetheroo> yes, its smooth right up to the point that it starts coughing up
[16:28] <lotus|NUC> zetheroo: perhaps setup a htop session open while you play with gthumb?
[16:29] <lotus|NUC> zetheroo: your graphics driver is installed correctly also?
[16:29] <zetheroo> lotus|NUC: graphics is Intel ... nothing special
[16:30] <zetheroo> lotus|NUC: I also had this kind of behaviour with Ubuntu 16.04
[16:30] <lotus|NUC> hmmm
[16:30] <lotus|NUC> zetheroo: i cant make it crash over here
[16:31] <zetheroo> Darn it ... I accidentally closed it. have to start again :P
[16:31] <zetheroo> It usually happens for me after about 30 min of non-stop photo editing
[16:31] <zetheroo> images are about 6000x4000 in size
[16:32] <lotus|NUC> oh 30min
[16:33] <lotus|NUC> zetheroo: launch a few instances from terminal and hammer it to the extreme :p
[16:35] <zetheroo> this just happened https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7ssCgvCX4X/
[16:38] <lotus|NUC> zetheroo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gthumb/+bug/1750200
[16:38] <Bashing-om> zetheroo: " Fatal IO error 11" . have you checked the hard drive's health ? (smartctl) .
[16:39] <lotus|NUC> zetheroo: add yourself affected to the bug, if you feel its relevant for you?
[16:40] <rfm> that I/O error is from the X server connection, I think.. Looks like the X server is running out of some resource -- could be memory but there at least used to be other limited resources in the server
[16:40] <zetheroo> lotus|NUC: doesn't seem to be related to my issue
[16:40] <rfm> ... that apps could leak.
[16:42] <rfm> zetheroo, have you checked the Xorg log?  (/var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[16:42] <zetheroo> rfm: not yet .. installing smartmontools
[16:44] <zetheroo> rfm: I don't have a /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:46] <Bashing-om> zetheroo: Try as .local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log ?
[16:47] <zetheroo> yes, it's there!
[16:53] <zetheroo> why are there 4 gthumb processes open when I only have one instance of gthumb open? https://imgur.com/a/zrfyvM4
[16:54] <mkl7778_> @<lotus|NUC> So finally one RX 550, still black screen but ssh on live 14.0.4.5 available... lucky blind install of openssh and change of ubuntu passwd...
[16:55] <zetheroo> something else I notice is that just viewing photos increases the memory usage of gthumb
[16:57] <ggz> hi
[16:58] <ggz> i have a friend which can't boot anymore, i can't find what is the problem, here is what it look like https://pasteboard.co/HJvhWoP.jpg
[17:00] <ggz> seems like the kernel crash, but why
[17:00] <ggz> i tried with an older kernel but same error
[17:04] <banyantree> can anybody help me why my .fizshrc is not loaded? (i added the line "source ~/.aliases" to use my aliases)
[17:04] <banyantree> i'm using obviosly fizsh with urxvt
[17:09] <banyantree> or how can i use my own aliases in fizsh
[17:11] <ggz> banyantree: do you get an error ?
[17:13] <ioria> bossetti
[17:14] <banyantree> ggz: no errors shown
[17:14] <Bashing-om> banyantree: Got an .bashrc file ? and does it redirect aliases to " if [ -f ~/.bash_aliases ]; then " ?
[17:16] <banyantree> Bashing-om: yes there is. but im using fizsh, the .bashrc will not be executed then right?
[17:17] <Bashing-om> banyantree: Can not say as I have never used fizsh . Just a thought of how aliases might be set .
[17:46] <Dbugger> Can someone suggest me an program to manage multiple ssh accounts
[17:46] <Dbugger> ?
[17:49] <jje> Dbugger: remmina
[17:50] <Dbugger> jje, I have used it for RDP, but I didnt realize it also works for SSH. Thanks
[18:02] <tachikomas> Hello channel. Having trouble with gdm on Ubuntu 18.04.1 Latest. If i want to boot, and use gdm to start my computer, the boot hang. If I use lightdm, then no problem at all.
[18:04] <tachikomas> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/X6mqmsPdrJ/
[18:04] <tachikomas> the result of journalctl
[18:08] <tomreyn> tachikomas: can you show the output of the dmesg command and the latest of the /var/log/Xorg.*.log files?
[18:10] <rfm> Is there a way to tell if a Xubuntu 18.04.1 install was a fresh install or an upgrade from 16.04.x ?
[18:11] <tachikomas> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/TSXRZXwsBR/
[18:11] <tachikomas> this is the syslog related to gdm
[18:12] <ioria> tachikomas, are you using Wayland ?
[18:12] <tachikomas> dmesg https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/gksF2J7z59/
[18:13] <ioria> rfm, try    grep cdrom /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:14] <tachikomas> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/X829kDN54t/ last xorg.O.log
[18:15] <rfm> ioria, great, thanks, I guess there was a reason I didn't clean out those entries.
[18:15] <ioria> rfm, ok
[18:16] <tachikomas> Yes i'm using wayland
[18:16] <ioria> tachikomas, try without it
[18:17] <tachikomas> Tryed already. Same issue.
[18:17] <tomreyn> ^ i concur
[18:17] <ioria> tachikomas, can you paste  /etc/gdm3/custom.conf  ?
[18:18] <Anticom> Hey guys, quick question. I've booted ubuntu on a friends laptop in order to wipe a windows partition. By wiping i mean i don't want to delete everything but securely override all free files
[18:18] <TJ-> Anticom: what are "free files"
[18:18] <Anticom> she want's to sell the laptop and i've reset windows which doesn't let me get an admin console anymore. So i thought about using ntfswipe etc. on linux
[18:18] <Anticom> Is there something i'
[18:18] <Anticom> m missing?
[18:18] <Anticom> or can i just run "sudo ntfswipe -a /dev/sd<win-partition>
[18:19] <TJ-> Anticom: have you read "man ntfswipe" ?
[18:19] <Anticom> just briefly flew over it
[18:20] <Anticom> TJ just wanted to make sure i don't mess it up because i haven't got time to restore it and i wouldn't have any windows restoration media left
[18:20] <Anticom> this laptop is slow AF, took three days to do the factory reset
[18:21] <TJ-> Anticom: if you're going to perform a dangerous operation like a wipe, then spending time to read the manual would seem to me to be a prerquisite
[18:22] <Anticom> well it says "overwrite unused space on an NTFS volume" but i don't understand all options
[18:22] <Anticom> hence i came here to ask you whether -a was a good idea
[18:22] <tachikomas> Anticom, its not what it's made for.
[18:24] <tachikomas> custom.conf : https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/9cS56Jv5GH/
[18:24] <Anticom> tachikomas: okay. Any other way to get what i want?
[18:24] <TJ-> Anticom: if you look at many of the other options it helps; I was just looking and there's things like --mft --directory --logfile --pagefile --tails --unused
[18:25] <Anticom> the thing is that there used to be kinda sensitive data on that laptop and i'd like to make sure no files can be restored
[18:25] <Anticom> however since windows is on it's factory-reset state i can't log in to use windows do that
[18:25] <TJ-> Anticom: I think --all means it uses all of those options, which is why it warns it can take a long time
[18:25] <TJ-> Anticom: It looks to me as if --all is more than sufficient
[18:26] <tachikomas> If you want to be sure that no files can be restored, then change hard drive, destroy this one, put a new one in the laptop
[18:26] <TJ-> Anticom: I'd use it with --verbose to get some feedback too
[18:26] <Anticom> tachikomas: data was not that sensitive
[18:26] <Anticom> more like personal photos etc.
[18:26] <Anticom> but no company or bank data
[18:27] <Anticom> so putting a new HDD into a already cheap laptop and selling it used which won't get us much is not a viable option
[18:28] <Anticom> i just want to avoid some 12yr old script kiddie to restore anything with some freeware you can google for
[18:28] <TJ-> Anticom: for your purposes ntfswipe is fine :)
[18:28] <Anticom> that's the kind of security that's sufficient
[18:28] <tachikomas> ok :)
[18:29] <TJ-> Anticom: the 1980/1990 style of being able to recover data from 'wiped' drives no longer holds; biggest risk these days is SSDs and wear-levelling - but in either case the attacker is going to need a specialist rig to make the attempt, and they're still not guaranteed to gain anything
[18:30] <Anticom> well as i said, it's not about high-risk sensitive data but more the personal stuff
[18:30] <Anticom> https://imgur.com/TobJ5vD okay so this is what the HDD looks like and windows is /dev/sda3
[18:31] <Anticom> so just do `sudo ntfswipe -a -v /dev/sda3` ?
[18:31] <Anticom> If it takes a few hours that won't matter
[18:32] <TJ-> Anticom: I think so, although you may be being optimistic when you say "few hours" - depends on the throughput and seek latency of the drive
[18:32] <Anticom> anything below 48 hours is okay
[18:32] <TJ-> Anticom: I'd say "overnight"
[18:32] <Anticom> that's no problem
[18:33] <Anticom> TJ-:  i know i'm being annoying about it but that's the options i want for ntfswipe (that i've posted above), right?
[18:33] <tachikomas> @ioria, i would really prefer to avoid reinstalling everything.. and find the solution to this problem but.. it's over my knowledge at the moment :/
[18:34] <ioria> tachikomas, can you paste  /etc/gdm3/custom.conf  ?
[18:34] <tachikomas> its done  already
[18:34] <tachikomas> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/9cS56Jv5GH/
[18:35] <tachikomas> nothing in it
[18:35] <TJ-> Anticom: Yes, "-a -v"
[18:35] <tachikomas> i could try to reinstall gdm3 no ? Can it be harmfull ?
[18:35] <Anticom> okay cheers TJ-  and tachikomas
[18:37] <ioria> tachikomas, it's disabled but your log says the contrary and ...  why did you remove 'quiet splash' from the kernel cmd line ?
[18:38] <tachikomas> I just want to see grub and the "normal start"
[18:38] <tachikomas> easy debuging
[18:39] <ioria> tachikomas, ok, can you paste  sudo lshw -c Video ?
[18:40] <tomreyn> tachikomas: if you're looking for support, it would be good to discuss what this system is, which major customizations you have made. since apparently there's a couple things non-standard.
[18:40] <tachikomas> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hHMZQwrMCc/
[18:40] <tachikomas> No customisation at all
[18:41] <tachikomas> Its a desktop runing on a laptop (X230 Lenovo)
[18:41] <tomreyn> what the "acpi_call" module?
[18:41] <tachikomas> upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04
[18:41] <tachikomas> tomreyn, no clue.
[18:42] <tachikomas> maybe something back from the 16.04 ?
[18:43] <tomreyn> maybe from a ppa you have or once had installed, or a non packaged software.
[18:44] <tachikomas> I generaly dont touch to acpi or really deep stuff.
[18:45] <tomreyn> this is from what you pasted here https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/X6mqmsPdrJ/
[18:45] <TJ-> tachikomas: is your user using encrypted home directory?
[18:45] <tachikomas> Nope.
[18:45] <tachikomas> I have a SDcard with a luks part with it
[18:45] <tomreyn> there was something logged about ecryptfs
[18:45] <TJ-> tachikomas: ahhh, that explains that
[18:46] <tomreyn> TJ-: were you referring to line 11 in https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/TSXRZXwsBR/ ?
[18:46] <tachikomas> but there is no automount or anything with it :) i just let it plugged as a encrypted container
[18:47] <tachikomas> Guys, i will just be out of internet for 3 minutes, i cameback (and i will not be able to see your messages)
[18:47] <TJ-> tomreyn: no, hadn't seen that! I was looking at line 5 at https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/X6mqmsPdrJ/
[18:48] <tomreyn> i see
[18:49] <tachikomas> Back
[18:50] <TJ-> tachikomas: tomreyn  who owns this file? "/usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-wayland-session[5112]: gnome-session-binary[5116]: WARNING: IceLockAuthFile failed: File exists"
[18:50] <tomreyn> TJ-: root on my 18.04.1 amd64
[18:51] <tomreyn> root:root
[18:51] <TJ-> tomreyn: IceLockAuthFile ?
[18:51] <TJ-> tomreyn: I thought this would be $HOME/{.}IceLockAuthFile
[18:51] <tomreyn> oh thought you mean /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-wayland-session
[18:51] <tachikomas> root:root on mine
[18:52] <TJ-> tomreyn: no, that's the reporter! I would hae expected IceLockAuthFile to be owned by $USER in $HOME
[18:53] <tomreyn> so would i. i dont have this file.
[18:53] <TJ-> No, that's reference, it should be $HOME/.ICEauthority
[18:54] <TJ-> tachikomas: what does "ls -l $HOME/.ICEauthority" report? is it owned by your $USER or root?
[18:54] <tomreyn> right, i have this one, owned by my restricted user
[18:55] <tachikomas> $USER
[18:55] <tachikomas> and my group user
[18:55] <ioria> tachikomas, sorry, you need to uncomment  #WaylandEnable=false   in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
[18:56] <tomreyn> oh right there is (or was?) some bug with old intel gpu's where this can be needed.
[18:56] <TJ-> tachikomas: that error report in your log indicates the file is stale; delete it, then try logging in once again
[18:57] <tachikomas> so i delete .ICEauthority dpkg-reconfigure gdm to use gdm as a dm and reboot ?
[18:58] <eaglgenes101> I'm getting "Cannot upgrade Secure Boot enforcement policy due to unsigned kernels"
[18:58] <TJ-> tachikomas: no reboot necessary; this isn't Windows :)
[18:58] <eaglgenes101> And the kernels that it identifies as unsigned are ones that I want to keep around
[18:58] <tachikomas> TJ-, even with systemd ? :)
[18:58] <tachikomas> thing is, when i will logout, i will fall into lightdm no ?
[18:59] <TJ-> tachikomas: huh? restarting the GUI never requires a reboot
[18:59] <tachikomas> should i kill lightdm then ?
[18:59] <TJ-> tachikomas: switch to a text console, "sudo systemctl stop lightdm; sudo dpkg-reconfigure gmd3; sudo systemctl start gdm3"
[18:59] <eaglgenes101> So how do I get a signature on the kernels?
[18:59] <TJ-> tachikomas: of course, correct my typos!
[19:00] <tachikomas> ok.
[19:00] <zetheroo> It seems like gthumb has serious issues with memory leakage
[19:00] <eaglgenes101> Some browsing says that if I'm sufficiently inclined, I can generate my own keypair, sign the kernels myself, register the key, and then next boot, authorize the keys
[19:00] <Kon-> Is it possible for an old .bin installer to extract files outside of ~ if I only ran it with normal user permissions?
[19:00] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: when S.B. is enabled the upgrader won't run to avoid locking you out; you'd need to disable S.B. *or* enroll your own MOK into the firmware and sign the kernel images/modules with that
[19:00] <zetheroo> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=893661
[19:01] <zetheroo> This is exactly what I am seeing
[19:01] <mobile_c> how do i query files owned by a package
[19:01] <eaglgenes101> I'd like the second option. Where's the starting point of that?
[19:01] <TJ-> mobile_c: "dpkg -L <package-name>"
[19:01] <zetheroo> 'if I use the editing mode like "automatic contrast adjustment" and "rotate". From 500 Mb it grows till all my 8 Gb RAM are occupied and the computer freezes.'
[19:01] <tomreyn> Kon-: sure, it can write everywhere the user executing it can write to.
[19:02] <tomreyn> Kon-: normally that's not a lot of places other than what ~/ points to, but surely some.
[19:02] <Kon-> Okay, thank you. So if I didn't have root permissions at the time, I don't think it could have dumped stuff into /usr/lib, for example
[19:02] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot
[19:03] <Kon-> I was trying to see if this old installer still worked. And it did. And most files went to the expected directory. But there a handful of files which seem to have been dumped elsewhere
[19:03] <TJ-> Kon-: assuming your $USER isn't a member of a group with write permissions to that location
[19:03] <tomreyn> Kon-: it couldn't unless you have modified your users' groups ownerships in unsafe ways or did the same to the ownership or permissions of /usr/lib
[19:03] <TJ-> Kon-: or possibly ACLs
[19:04] <texla> Ubuntu 18.04 ..When booting grub version shows 2.02 yet when using grub-install -v it shows this..https://pastebin.com/JjNXGMd8..I don't use uefi
[19:04] <eaglgenes101> Is this the way to go to self-sign the kernels I want? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot/Signing
[19:04] <tomreyn> Kon-: next time, consider running it in a VM or chroot instead, or try to unpack its contents yourself without executing it.
[19:04] <TJ-> texla: you have to tell grub-install which device to install to, e.g. /dev/sdX
[19:05] <Kon-> Thanks guys. There's only 13 stray files that went to some other directory, so I can hopefully track them down. It told me the filenames but not the full path
[19:05] <tomreyn> eaglgenes101: yes, probably
[19:05] <tachikomas> Hello back. Still buggy. it hang with a black screen.
[19:06] <tachikomas> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tT9SckqW68/
[19:06] <tachikomas> i have this message continuously in syslog
[19:07] <ioria> tachikomas, why do you persist using wayland ?
[19:07] <coconut> TJ-, you remember me talking to you a week ago about connecting a stereo speaker(Bose) with bluetooth? Well... I went adventures today... and just tried it with ubuntu mate. It works better than under macos. Both my mouse and speaker get easier(can be more than a minute in macosx) detected and don't loose connection which happens under mac.
[19:07] <TJ-> tachikomas: tomreyn I think the home directory is ecryptfs and may not have correctly mounted
[19:08] <tachikomas> ioria because it works ? Its activated by default. I dont "want" it.
[19:08] <tomreyn> TJ-: so you think it's not related to wayland?
[19:08] <ioria> tachikomas, you need to uncomment  #WaylandEnable=false   in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
[19:08] <coconut> (i do not touch "the other" distro anymore though)
[19:08] <tachikomas> ok. I uncomment. and do again the same steps
[19:08] <ioria> tachikomas, and it's no more default on 18.04
[19:09] <TJ-> tomreyn: I have no opinion on that, but the errors we've seen so far are classic for a badly mounted ecryptfs
[19:09] <ioria> tachikomas, it's default on 17.10
[19:09] <tomreyn> TJ-: this sounds like i want to stay away from debugging it ;)
[19:09] <texla> TJ-, Do I put /dev/sdx before or after -version
[19:09] <TJ-> tomreyn: I'm just dealing with errors that show up :)
[19:10] <TJ-> texla: if you use "-version" grub-install won't do anything else
[19:10] <TJ-> texla: "grub-install -v /dev/sdX" (replace X). the -v is 'verbose' output
[19:12] <TJ-> tomreyn: e.g. if /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.Private isn't being mounted on $HOME then core config files may be missing, or there amy be some unexpected files there
[19:13] <tomreyn> yes indeed. adding another user and trying to login as this user may work then?
[19:13] <TJ-> tomreyn: that would be a good test
[19:13] <tomreyn> i'm not sure where it currently fails, though, before or after login
[19:15] <TJ-> tomreyn: the log you pointed me to made me think it fails after the greeter and is trying to log the user in, tries to access/write the .ICEauthority file, and fails because that file exists. I had always thought existence was OK, but being read-only or owned by another user (or possible immutable) was the prooblem
[19:16] <tomreyn> TJ-: yes, makes sense
[19:17] <TJ-> tomreyn: as in "AccountsService: ActUserManager: user tachikomas is now loaded" ... but note are they using passwordless login (which WOULD break ecryptfs) since "GdmSessionWorker: determining if authenticated user (password required:0) is authorized to session"
[19:17] <TJ-> tomreyn: "password required:0" suggests 0 == false ?
[19:18] <TJ-> tomreyn: and just prior to both those messages "AccountsService: ActUserManager: tracking new user with object path /org/freedesktop/Accounts/User1000" seems to confirm it is the first user account
[19:19] <tomreyn> oh i didnt see this, so auto login would explain why gdm would not even show a login prompt and the graphical session failing 'immediately'
[19:19] <Guddu> TJ-, tomreyn ioria My problem from yesterday is all sorted out. My ERP App is running fine without having to do anything.
[19:19] <ioria> Guwe are glad about that, cheers
[19:19] <Guddu> Did a Purge and all went well.
[19:19] <TJ-> So, if this user has set autologin that'll break ecryptfs (since it cannot unwrap the passphrase using the password) and therfore the user home directory will not be mounted. Whereas, if the user then logs in via a text console it will be mounted
[19:19] <ioria> Guddu, we are glad about that, cheers
[19:20] <TJ-> tomreyn: so this would affect all GUI logins but not console/text
[19:21] <tomreyn> TJ-: i think tachikomas said lightdm worked fine, though, didnt they?
[19:21] <tachikomas> So. I tried without wayland, i tryed to remove gdm3 and ubuntu-desktop and reinstall it. I still have the same message about the screensaver that i had previously in the log
[19:21] <tachikomas> yup
[19:21] <tachikomas> lightdm work perfectly
[19:21] <tachikomas> sorry, had to kill my dm
[19:21] <tachikomas> to make it work
[19:21] <TJ-> tomreyn: that'd make sense though, since autologin is a DM-specific option
[19:21] <tomreyn> oh ok
[19:21] <TJ-> tachikomas: have you been enabling autologin with GDM?
[19:22] <tomreyn> so we want to disable auto-login on gdm3?
[19:22] <tachikomas> it work
[19:22] <hzx> Hello! How can I mount a veracrypt file container in Ubuntu 18.10? The release notes says it is possible now but I can not find a way.
[19:22] <TJ-> tomreyn: if using an encrypted home directory, then yes
[19:22] <TJ-> hzx: use 'cryptsetup'
[19:23] <TJ-> hzx: see "man cryptsetup" and its "TCRYPT (TrueCrypt-compatible and VeraCrypt) EXTENSION" section
[19:23] <hzx> ok, thanks
[19:23] <ioria> hzx, with gnome-disks
[19:25] <tachikomas> so what should i do ? Full clean reinstall ? or live with lightdm ?
[19:25] <hzx> does it have a mount container menu/option somewhere?
[19:25] <TJ-> tachikomas: have you been enabling autologin with GDM?
[19:26] <tomreyn> TJ-: so gdm3 autologin would normally be set in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf (which has been posted here https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/9cS56Jv5GH/ )
[19:26] <tachikomas> no.
[19:26] <tachikomas> never do autologin.
[19:26] <TJ-> tomreyn: or from the $USER's Settings panel according to https://help.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/login-automatic.html.en
[19:27] <TJ-> tachikomas: right, because we were wondering if the ecryptfs home directory mount failures were the cause of this
[19:28] <tomreyn> TJ-: the settings panel changes this very file, i just tested
[19:29] <tachikomas> but even, i never had any home encryptfs.
[19:29] <tachikomas> cant find any trace of it in conf files.
[19:29] <TJ-> tomreyn: Aha, that makes sense
[19:30] <TJ-> tachikomas: just to be sure "sudo ls -l /home/.ecryptfs/"
[19:30] <tomreyn> tachikomas: so when you boot into gdm3, what happens exactly, where does it fail, and how?
[19:30] <TJ-> tachikomas: if you see any usernames there, those are the accounts with encrypted files
[19:30] <tachikomas> no. I dont see anything actually, it stop on the boot sequences, and start to have flashing black screen
[19:31] <tachikomas> if i switch to another tty than the first one, i can use it for around 30/35 secondes, and i got a black screen again and need to go back to my terminal
[19:31] <eaglgenes101> Which specific kernel files do I sign to okay them for booting?
[19:31] <tachikomas> it happend only with gdm3. With lightdm, i can login with no problem.
[19:32] <tachikomas> i can see in the syslog that i have errors with the scrensaver.
[19:32] <tachikomas> and thats it.
[19:32] <TJ-> tachikomas: so what is happening there is that the greeter is failing and then retrying, which is why it takes over the console and switches tty away from you
[19:33] <TJ-> tachikomas: does it get as far as (trying to) display the greeter log-in ?
[19:33] <tachikomas> nope. It hang before.
[19:34] <tachikomas> it hang on OK Started user manager for UID 132
[19:34] <TJ-> tachikomas: so that is different to what we see in the log at line 111
[19:35] <tomreyn> tachikomas: i asked for dmesg output in the very beginning, you did not provide it, on purpose? it would be nice to see at least the last couple of lines after gdm3 failed.
[19:35] <tachikomas> i give you the dmesg at the very begining
[19:36] <tomreyn> tachikomas: sorry, i missed it, got it now.
[19:37] <TJ-> someone on Arch reports the same issue some time ago https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=220299
[19:39] <tomreyn> they got nvidia, though
[19:40] <tomreyn> tachikomas: is anything added in dmesg when gdm fails?
[19:40] <TJ-> tachikomas: how many monitors does the PC have connected?
[19:42] <tomreyn> tachikomas: when did this problem start occurring? did you upgrade recently?
[19:43] <tomreyn> you said "<tachikomas> upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04", but not whether this (or something else) introduced this issue, if i'm not mistaken.
[19:44] <tachikomas> only one.
[19:44] <tachikomas> tomreyn, nothing.
[19:44] <tomreyn> tachikomas: which of my questions is this the answer to?
[19:45] <tachikomas> nothing from dmesg.
[19:45] <tachikomas> it started this morning. Nothing done on the computer. Just wanted to boot it normally
[19:46] <tachikomas> can i make a deep clean of gdm3 files (config etc) easily to start with a fresh one ?
[19:46] <TJ-> tachikomas: let's check if a recentl package upgrade may be the cause. can you show us "pastebinit /var/log/apt/history.log"
[19:46] <tomreyn> tachikomas: so the only change you made was to switch from lightdm to gdm?
[19:47] <tachikomas> tomreyn, it was the idea when i saw i couldnt boot in gdm, i would prefer to use gdm, but i had lightdm installed from the previous version of ubuntu
[19:47] <TJ-> tomreyn: how about running a 'debsums gdm3' ?
[19:48] <eaglgenes101> Alright, how does grub and shim identify that a kernel is signed?
[19:48] <tachikomas> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6TjRxD56vh/
[19:49] <tachikomas> paste of apt history
[19:49] <TJ-> tachikomas: tomreyn I think the problem is "org.gnome.ScreenSaver[5107]: Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused" which causes ScreenSaver to 'exit 1'
[19:49] <tomreyn> TJ-: or just purge and reinstall
[19:49] <TJ-> tomreyn: it'd be good to know if there is a problem before replacing though
[19:51] <tomreyn> so let's: dpkg -l gdm3 gnome-screensaver
[19:51] <tomreyn> i'm not sure how the screensaver works on gnome3 actually
[19:51] <tachikomas> ii  gdm3           3.28.3-0ubun amd64        GNOME Display Manager
[19:51] <tachikomas> ii  gnome-screensa 3.6.1-8ubunt amd64        GNOME screen saver and locker
[19:51] <TJ-> tachikomas: did this start before or after you installed gufw ?
[19:52] <tachikomas> after
[19:52] <tachikomas> that's why i removed it
[19:52] <tomreyn> i don't have gnome-screensaver installed, but locking the screen still works with gdm3 on 18.04
[19:53] <TJ-> tachikomas: right, I'm just trying to narrow down which packages are either side of the problem starting. How about dconf-tools, was that installed before or after?
[19:53] <tachikomas> before.
[19:53] <TJ-> tachikomas: gnome-shell-extensions ?
[19:53] <tachikomas> after
[19:54] <tachikomas> it started exactly when i installed gufw and gnome-shell-extensions
[19:54] <tachikomas> on the next reboot :/
[19:54] <tomreyn> what is flat-remix-gnome ?
[19:54] <tachikomas> somes icones ;)
[19:54] <TJ-> tachikomas: what about "flat-remix-gnome" - that was installed just before gnome-shell-extensions
[19:54] <tachikomas> nothing more than a icon pack for gnome that i used previously.
[19:54] <eaglgenes101> How does the shim check that the kernel is signed? I have .signed files, but it's not identifying them
[19:55] <TJ-> tachikomas: so timewise it's between 0600 and 0644 local time - that gives us a timeframe to look at in the system logs
[19:55] <TJ-> tachikomas: we can use that to query journalctl
[19:55] <tachikomas> ok :)
[19:56] <tachikomas> thanks a lot for your help all. I really want to debug that better than reinstall everything
[19:56] <TJ-> tachikomas: try this, make sure the range of timestamps looks correct, then we can pastebin it. "journalctl --since 06:00 --until 06:45"
[19:56] <eaglgenes101> ...
[19:57] <TJ-> tachikomas: I think it needs = symbols:  "journalctl --since=06:00 --until=06:45"
[19:57] <tachikomas> ok
[19:58] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: shim is signed my Microsoft CA, and contains the Canonical signing certificate, which checks grubx64.efi .... and so on
[19:58] <TJ-> tachikomas: if that command works, wrap it in "pastebinit <( ... )"
[19:58] <eaglgenes101> docs say tha grub consults shim to see if the kernel is signed
[19:58] <tachikomas> oct. 21 06:00:37 TheGrid org.gnome.Shell.desktop[2544]: Window manager warning: Buggy client sent a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message with a timestamp of 0 f
[19:59] <tachikomas> i wrap all of it in a pastebin but this is the revelent one
[19:59] <eaglgenes101> I've registered the relevant key
[19:59] <TJ-> tachikomas: all of it may reveal context
[19:59] <TJ-> eaglgenes101: you're enrolled your own MOK in the firmware?
[20:00] <TJ-> tachikomas: as in  "pastebinit <( journalctl --since=06:00 --until=06:45 )"
[20:00] <eaglgenes101> Mokutil says so, at least if I'm interpreting it correctly
[20:01] <tachikomas> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rwsFdVWGXz/
[20:02] <tachikomas> (installing pastebinit :))
[20:03] <TJ-> tachikomas: aha, II was wondering why it all ended at 06:05 :)
[20:08] <tachikomas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JBMQxjwm2V/
[20:09] <TJ-> looks like it may have started around line 150
[20:10] <TJ-> there's stack-traces start there
[20:10] <tomreyn> oct. 21 06:06:27 TheGrid kernel: Buffer I/O error on dev dm-0, logical block 7790832, async page read
[20:12] <tomreyn> maybe that's removable media which was pulled off usb
[20:12] <tachikomas> dm-0 is a sdcard :)
[20:12] <TJ-> tachikomas: you need to safely eject that USb device before pulling it out you know! "06:41:33 TheGrid kernel: Buffer I/O error on dev dm-0, logical block 3702784, lost sync page write"
[20:13] <tomreyn> lines 48 - 55 will be related
[20:13] <eaglgenes101> .
[20:14] <tachikomas> i know. Wasnt made on purpose the 2 time it happend yesterday.
[20:14] <tomreyn> lines 146 and following look potentially interesting, too
[20:15] <tomreyn> "gnome-shell[PID]: Screen lock is locked down, not locking" - i'm not sure what this means to tell
[20:15] <eaglgenes101> I think I went somehwere wrong signing my kernels, what should I be doing?
[20:15] <tomreyn> then permission denied while putting LVDS-1 into power saving mode+
[20:16] <tomreyn> and then a gnome-shell stack trace
[20:16] <tomreyn> *2
[20:17] <TJ-> tachikomas: did you use gnome-tweaks to make some changes?
[20:18] <tachikomas> switching my dock from the side to down
[20:20] <TJ-> tachikomas: and early on, "06:00:32 TheGrid sudo[15339]: tachikomas : TTY=pts/0 ; PWD=/home/tachikomas ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/dconf" ... did you make any changes with dconf ?
[20:22] <tachikomas> nope.
[20:22] <tachikomas> had it before. Was talking wih a friend of the tool, but nothing done with it.
[20:22] <tachikomas> with
[20:23] <TJ-> tachikomas: let's check for any files not owned by your user in the home directory; that could cause issues. "find $HOME -not -user $USER -ls "
[20:24] <TJ-> mostly with dot-files or those in ~/.conf, ~/.local ~/.cache
[20:25] <tachikomas> find: ‘/home/tachikomas/.config/enchant’: Permission denied
[20:25] <TJ-> tachikomas: ouch, so you've run something as 'root' I guess
[20:26] <tachikomas> yep, and also .rpmdb
[20:26] <TJ-> tachikomas: looks like spell checker
[20:26] <tachikomas> never heard of it.
[20:26] <TJ-> !info enchant
[20:27] <tachikomas> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2C25gc7hn8/
[20:29] <TJ-> tachikomas: that looks OK; at some point you're run the rpm tools as root, and install4j, but they're not critical so no clue there
[20:29] <lunorian> Hi
[20:29] <TJ-> tachikomas: but a useful data point for us to confirm the home directory is sane
[20:29] <eaglgenes101> Im still stuck trying to get the shim to recognise that I've signed my kernels
[20:30] <eaglgenes101> The signature files generated from sbsign are sitting right next to the kernel files
[20:30] <eaglgenes101> And have the name <kernel file>.signed
[20:31] <lunorian_> Just got disconnected again
[20:31] <lunorian_> This breaks apps like IRC where staying connected is important, any guidence that can be provided?
[20:32] <tomreyn> lunorian_: not with at least a very little bit of details
[20:32] <lunorian_> Of course
[20:32] <lunorian_> getting logs now
[20:32] <lunorian_> sorry about that
[20:32] <arooni> is there some kinda of markdown editor for ubuntu such that i can see what it would look like as i type?
[20:33] <tomreyn> lunorian_: that's fine. it's not related to the vpn you use, right?
[20:33] <TJ-> tachikomas: how about enabling debug logging in the gdm3 daemon.conf ?
[20:33] <lunorian_> here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YnHvd7jqxw/
[20:33] <lunorian_> How's that for a start?
[20:33] <tachikomas> did it on the custom.conf
[20:34] <tachikomas> TJ-, and if i just want to starg gdm3 from scratch ? how can i purge everything from it ?
[20:34] <lunorian> another disconnect :|
[20:35] <lunorian> As I was saying though the VPN doesn't affect it
[20:35] <lunorian> on or off
[20:35] <lunorian> The only two changes from stock are powertop + tlp are installed and run at system startup to manage power usage
[20:35] <tomreyn> lunorian_: you are using a somewhat badly supported wireless chipset. consider connecting through ethernet (if this hardware has such) or ethernet via usb, or a better supported wireless chipset.
[20:36] <lunorian> As recommended by https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro12-1/Wily
[20:36] <lunorian> I don't have ethernet
[20:36] <TJ-> tachikomas: "sudo apt purge gdm3"
[20:36] <lunorian> nor the option to get another chipset
[20:36] <tomreyn> lunorian: which ubuntu and kernel version is this?
[20:36] <eaglgenes101> hello?
[20:36] <lunorian> Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
[20:36] <lunorian> Linux Nathaniels-MacBookPro 4.15.0-36-generic #39-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 24 16:19:09 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:37] <lunorian> I want Ubuntu to be my daily driver badly opposed to macOS
[20:37] <tomreyn> lunorian: why is getting another chipset not an option, does it not have any external ports?
[20:37] <lunorian> Costs primarly
[20:37] <tachikomas> TJ-, I think i will try this
[20:38] <eaglgenes101> i am still stuck trying to get shim to recognise my kernel signatures
[20:38] <tomreyn> lunorian: you acquired apple hardware
[20:38] <lunorian> what can I do for now to stop the disconnect
[20:38] <lunorian> and that was quite some time ago :|
[20:38] <tachikomas> should i reinstall straight after ?
[20:39] <tomreyn> lunorian: when you run "dmesg -w", is there anything printed when the connection drops?
[20:39] <TJ-> tomreyn: I'd suspect tlp is being too aggressive and powering down USB/wifi :)
[20:39] <tomreyn> TJ-: tlp? power saving?
[20:39] <lunorian> happened before tlp
[20:40] <tomreyn> oh i didn't actually know tlp until i just searched it
[20:41] <TJ-> tomreyn: yes, tlp has a command specifically for radios too
[20:41] <tomreyn> lunorian: did it also happen before you applied changes using powertop?
[20:41] <lunorian> yes
[20:41] <tachikomas> TJ-, ok, i purge, reconfigure, reboot to check. Everything working fine on GDM now. Maybe i did something i shouldnt at one point on the conf file
[20:41] <lunorian> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Q3jCb7WkKF/
[20:42] <TJ-> lunorian: can you "pastebinit <( dmesg )"
[20:42] <lunorian> is that info helpful
[20:42] <moss> i have ubuntu 18.04 LTS with nvidia gtx 1060 6GB graphics card and am using the nouveau driver and experiencing massive amounts of screen tearing. any proper recommendations on getting rid of this besides loading up nvidias driver?
[20:42] <tomreyn> TJ-: i spotted tlp-rdw, thanks
[20:42] <tachikomas> Many Thanks for your help
[20:42] <TJ-> tachikomas: wow, really! We wasted dome time
[20:42] <tachikomas> I know :/
[20:42] <tachikomas> Sorry about that
[20:42] <tachikomas> have still no clue what happened
[20:42] <TJ-> tachikomas: no worries, at least it is fixed
[20:42] <tachikomas> Thanks a lot
[20:43] <tomreyn> lunorian: yes, "brcmf_inetaddr_changed: fail to get arp ip table err:-23" looks like it could be a problem
[20:43] <lunorian> okay great we're getting somewhere
[20:43] <tomreyn> also that it fails to load the firmware
[20:43] <lunorian> that's likely the source of the disconnects
[20:43] <lunorian> So where do we go from here
[20:44] <tomreyn> search the web for thios errors, see what others did
[20:44] <TJ-> tomreyn: did you notice the failed firmware loads for apparentyl matching files?
[20:45] <lunorian> "  Also in my case I solved it by disabling WMM, not sure how to solve this for this ticket... Since it's really environment related."
[20:45] <lunorian> what is WMM?
[20:46] <tomreyn> TJ-: my interpretation is that two files were attempted to be loaded and did not exist, but a different part of the firmware was loaded.
[20:47] <lunorian> source: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1575321
[20:48] <tomreyn> lunorian: i think WMM is wireless management mode. this bug report is a good find. it also says "Usually rmmod brcmfmac && modprobe brcmfmac successfully load the driver, and wifi is functional once more"
[20:48] <tomreyn> lunorian: maybe the system suspended, woke from suspend and since then you have these issues?
[20:48] <lunorian> So what do I need to do run that command every boot? Something else?
[20:49] <eaglgenes101> um
[20:50] <tomreyn> lunorian: it's too early to say what the proper counter measure is.
[20:50] <lunorian_> interesting
[20:51] <lunorian_> I ran that command with some success
[20:51] <lunorian_> there is no longer a question mark in the top right hand corner
[20:51] <lunorian_> rather a signal indicator
[20:51] <TJ-> tomreyn: looks that way; apparently BRCM are separating the country-specific info into a .clm_blob file to go with the pcie.bin files, but for the 43602 that hasn't been done yet
[20:52] <lunorian_> TJ-: that's interesting
[20:52] <lunorian_> my issue MIGHT be resolved partially
[20:52] <lunorian_> no more question mark in top right hand corner
[20:52] <lunorian_> so I'm successfully connected for now
[20:52] <lunorian_> I stored a .sh script to run the module thingy in my home folder
[20:52] <lunorian_> that'll be enough for now
[20:53] <lunorian_> next up why don't have 5Ghz available
[20:54] <lunorian_> could you provide any guidence on getting 5Ghz working?
[20:56] <tomreyn> lunorian_: with this hardware and lack of vendor support the state is "be glad it works at all".
[20:56] <lunorian_> What can I do to try and get vendor support?
[20:56] <lunorian_> Who do I get in contact with?
[20:56] <tomreyn> bcm stands for broadcom
[20:57] <lunorian_> And the big issue with disconnects is "probably fixed"
[20:57] <lunorian_> I might have to run that script every reboot
[20:57] <lunorian_> But I have a workaround to stay connected at least
[20:57] <lunorian_> Gonna contact Broadcom and see if anyone there is willing to hel
[20:57] <lunorian_> help
[20:57] <lunorian_> thanks for your help though
[20:57] <tomreyn> good luck!
[21:00] <TJ-> I suspect controlling power-save/WMM with 'iw' may have helped
[21:07] <droidlatin1> Someone knows if the gnome ram issue was solved in 18.04 LTS
[21:10] <OerHeks> "the" gnome ram issue?
[21:12] <tomreyn> hmm yes good point, TJ
[21:12] <droidlatin1> Memory leak
[21:16] <lafleurdubien> which ubuntu-based distros do not allow desktop icons by default?
[21:23] <xangua> lafleurdubien: gnome desktop
[21:27] <lafleurdubien> gnome and pantheon. any others?
[21:28] <xangua> Gnome based desktops (?)
[21:28] <xangua> There are not really a lot
[21:29] <lafleurdubien> what about KDE? is it default that desktop files/folders located in "~/Desktop" actually appear as icons on the desktop without any tweaking on a fresh Kubuntu or KDE neon install?
[21:47] <Surkow|laptop> hello guys, I have a question about a fresh ubuntu 18.10 install. Can I disable compositing in the window manager?
[21:47] <Surkow|laptop> it's unbearably slow with an IGP
[21:48] <Surkow|laptop> gnome-tweaks disable animation doesn't appear to do anything
[21:48] <Greyztar> is it possibel have a webserver use sock proxy on port 443 and then still be able to access webserver through non proxy port 80
[21:50] <tomreyn> Greyztar: you'd probably have separate services listening there. a sock proxy server on 443, e.g. dante, and a webserver on 80. but this will break https access to the webserver.
[21:50] <Surkow|laptop> run multiple instances?
[21:50] <Surkow|laptop> :D
[21:51] <Greyztar> tomreyn: ahh yes sorri i was thinking the other way aorund
[21:51] <Greyztar> tomreyn: but still it would be possibel?
[21:52] <tomreyn> Greyztar: what i described would be possible, i'm not certain this is what you are trying to achieve.
[21:52] <Greyztar> tomreyn: i could just redirect port 80 to 443 then or so no?
[21:53] <Greyztar> tomreyn: it is,i got a site i need access too,but i also need the server to fetch info through a proxy so this woould do it i think,im using tsocks should be ok no?
[21:55] <tomreyn> hmm maybe you're mixing things up there. are you saying the server where the webserver is listening on port 80 needs to connect somewhere else through a socks proxy to access something?
[21:56] <Greyztar> tomreyn: thanks for helping also ill try it in an vm (,")
[21:57] <tomreyn> if only this server needs to connect somewhere through socks then it doesn't actually need to run a socks proxy server itself, allowing others to connect to it.
[22:01] <Greyztar> i might be a little of with the question,ive fried the brain on trying to figure out how to make lxd push containers through nat
[22:01] <Greyztar> thanks for helping nontheless
[22:28] <klu3> I'm using KDE and on the login there's an option between Plasma or Plasma (wayland); which one should I use? i got geforce 8800 GT 512 VRAM
[22:34] <Kon-> klu3: Plasma
[22:41] <Bashing-om> klu3: Nvidia support in Wayland is still a work in progress .
[22:50] <JustAPerson> Where do I report a bug in a core package? Like `linux-tools-generic`
[22:52] <JustAPerson> There was a bugreport on the redhat bugzilla and they suggested it was probably a mistake in the way the package was created
[22:55] <Bashing-om> !bug | JustAPerson
[22:57] <JustAPerson> Bashing-om: ty <3
[23:00] <Bashing-om> JustAPerson: :)
[23:04] <Surkow|laptop> does the new ubuntu use mutter?
[23:04] <Surkow|laptop> (for window managing)
[23:25] <irongeeks> krytarik, testing
[23:25] <krytarik> Yup!
[23:25] <irongeeks> Thanks!!
[23:26] <krytarik> Sure. :)
[23:26] <irongeeks> Didn't think it was "that" picky
[23:26] <irongeeks> Ugh
[23:26] <irongeeks> I guess consistencies is key
[23:28] <irongeeks> Ever see this? krytarik
[23:28] <irongeeks> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MzK5wsHJ8R/
[23:28] <irongeeks> It has already been identified...
[23:29] <krytarik> I guess that's from before you set up auto-identify properly then.
[23:30] <irongeeks> It's also showing that on #oftc
[23:30] <irongeeks> But all others are good now.
[23:32] <krytarik> Yes, you aren't logged in on OFTC right now.
[23:32] <irongeeks> I did what it asked me to do... I did both register and identify, nothing worked.. I went online to "verify" I got it to pass.. still doesn't on here?
[23:33] <jamie1> so hey, im trying to use gcc 8 or eariler for a compile as gcc 8.1+ does not compile nasm successfully. any suggestions?
[23:34] <krytarik> irongeeks: Let's continue this in #oftc please.
[23:34] <irongeeks> krytarik, OK