=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [14:15] hello, i want to report a bug with xubuntu 18.04. I can not figure out which application is responsible. [14:15] on my lenovo x240 the system regularly freezes and logs me out to the login screen. When it freezes i can move the mouse, but windows are frozen. this happens more often with thunar or mousepad open. A new installation did not resolve the issue, its repeating over and over again.. [14:15] when this happens an dthe window freeze it takes about 30 seconds till im logged out. [14:16] it does not happen if no applications are open and everything is idle. [14:17] 16.04 was running fine without any errors for a long time till i moved to 18.04 [14:40] ikatamoonshots: I would check ~/.xsession-errors.old and also the system log with the 'journalctl' command [14:40] furthermore, having a process monitor open could maybe help to identify the culprit [14:41] in case something is eating CPU/Memory [14:53] i will try to check the logs, i have this problem since i moved to 18.04 , tried a new installation meanwhile, no change [14:56] ~/.xsession-errors.old > https://hastebin.com/zirorinino.coffeescript [14:57] Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. [14:57] timing of 15:55 could be inline with the last crash [14:58] ive also changed the drive meanwhile, both where ssd drives, so a drive failure is unlikely, maybe a another hardware problem? the x240 ist the newest generation anymore [14:59] i think it unlikely its a cpu load is unlikely, happened with thunar and mousepad only open too [15:00] mmh [15:01] with mousepad it happened a few times when i rapidly browsed scripts i where writing, they had 1000 lines + [15:01] did you test with another user account yet? [15:01] the netbook only has 4gb ramp, but it even happened when there was only 1gig something in use [15:02] i tried an entire new installation and changed the harddrvie ssd too [15:02] ah right [15:02] well, you give the just released xubuntu 18.10 a try [15:02] on the hastebin from line 770 there is this io error thing [15:03] I assume that this error is logged due to your X session dying [15:03] hence programs complaining [15:04] aww, i usually try to stay away from the experimental builds, i maintain some scripts and then i have to run 18.04 in the virtualbox to maintian the scripts [15:05] :/ [15:05] would really like to know what causing the issue [15:05] you could download it and then boot into live mode to test things [15:05] same with 18.04 actually. did you check if the live session is affected by this issue also? [15:06] nope, always ran the installer straight away, never used live [15:06] it may be caused by something that you install afterwards (drivers?) [15:06] in case the live session is not affected [15:08] nope, its a brand new isntallation, only things i installed where synaptic and vlc - then cp'd the mozilla userfiles from the old install [15:08] but i start to think its the lenovo hardware somehow [15:09] guess if it was a real bug more people would complain [15:09] but why didnt it happen on 16.04 ??? hmm [15:10] it's not like software/drivers don't change [15:10] that's why I suggested to test with 18.10 too [15:15] will do that, just takes a bit time, have to backup everything again and make a boot usb :) [15:17] no need to rush [15:19] ill wait till it happens again and then browse logs - really want to know whats causing this ^^ [17:09] Hello. Any plans for 18.10 on i386 ? ATM I get an error that upgrade is not currently possible [17:45] ikatamoonshots: you can have a terminal in the background following journalctl - might tell you what it is, journalctl -f [17:50] just a moment, on the phone right now [19:01] thanks, checked it, didnt knew about this option! Im trying it. [19:49] the new icons are so .... ugly, why did you ditched the blue ones