[01:43] <aidian> good evening
[01:58] <nhaines> aidian: good evening!
[01:59] <nhaines> We're about to have a meeting, although a short one since the agenda's empty.
[02:00] <aidian> yeah, that's why i showed up. :) i wouldn't mind a chance to introduce myself
[02:00] <nhaines> That'll be other business, which is after the agenda (which is empty).  It'll come up quick.  :)
[02:01] <aidian> gotcha. short version: representing linux users group of davis
[02:01] <nhaines> Great!
[02:01] <nhaines> We're going to be a couple minutes late while I take care of something that just came up.  brb!
[02:01] <aidian> no worries, i'll be here and quiet til someone hollers at me
[02:02] <lynorian> evening
[02:04] <nhaines> Okay, I'm back.
[02:04] <nhaines> lynorian: glad to see you tonight.  :)
[02:04] <lynorian> I have been super busy writing the Lubuntu manual
[02:05] <nhaines> I've been super busy translating a novel, and I think I envy you.  :)  But I'm glad you're working on documentation.  It's important!
[02:05] <nhaines> #startmeeting
[02:06] <nhaines> Welcome to the Ubuntu California meeting for October 21st.
[02:06] <nhaines> Tonight's agenda can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/18October21
[02:06] <nhaines> #topic Upcoming events
[02:06] <nhaines> Are there any upcoming events we should keep an eye on?
[02:08] <nhaines> The Southern California Linux Expo's call for papers continues until October 31st, and UbuCon could use more talks!
[02:08] <nhaines> You can find more information about submitting a talk here: https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/17x/cfp
[02:08] <nhaines> If you would like your talk to be considered for UbuCon, please make sure to pick that as your track when you submit.  :)
[02:08] <nhaines> #topic Announcements
[02:09] <nhaines> Ubuntu 18.10 was released last week.  It contains a new theme, updated drivers, newer LibreOffice, and a wide assortment of nifty server stuff!
[02:09] <nhaines> In addition, Canonical released a report on new Ubuntu installation statistics collected since Ubuntu 18.04 LTS.  You can read that here: https://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/statistics
[02:10] <nhaines> Are there any other announcements for the group?
[02:11] <nhaines> #topic Agenda
[02:11] <lynorian> nhaines: what do you need to do for  submitting a talk?
[02:12] <nhaines> lynorian: That is described in detail on the link provided.  Mainly, you need a bio and a talk title and abstract.  If you have any questions that aren't answered on that page, let me know.
[02:12] <nhaines> It's a talk submission system, so it does walk you through pretty much everything.
[02:12] <nhaines> There is no agenda for tonight's meeting.
[02:13] <nhaines> #topic Other business
[02:13] <nhaines> I'm going to make a note to get a meetingology bot in here.  I can probably host it if necessary, if we can't get an official one.  On my to-do list now.
[02:13] <nhaines> aidian: how are you?  :)
[02:13] <aidian> haha, fine, thanks!
[02:14] <aidian> mind if i state my bit now?
[02:14] <nhaines> The floor's all yours!
[02:14] <aidian> brilliant. :)
[02:14] <aidian> I'm here as an officer of the Linux Users' Group of Davis, in Davis, CA.
[02:15] <aidian> I found some flyers for this group that got hidden away by the previous president, Bill Kendrick
[02:15] <nhaines> We're glad you found us!  We used to have a bunch of members in that area.
[02:16] <aidian> indeed! we have a pretty big membership still, but admittedly our active membership has diminished quite a bit. the linux advocacy scene has.. changed a lot.
[02:17] <nhaines> We're seeing that here and in fact, worldwide in the Ubuntu Local Community teams.
[02:17] <nhaines> It's been a wild ride!  Lots more work to do, even if it's different.  :)
[02:17] <aidian> yeah. that's why i figured i should reach out. we're really trying to be more active. we're writing new advocacy and outreach materials and doing more public work.
[02:18] <aidian> we had our first booth at the davis farmer's market in something like a decade just this month.
[02:18] <nhaines> Oh, that's fun.  How did that go?
[02:19] <aidian> it didn't go too badly at all, especially for a first go with new administration.
[02:19] <aidian> it was a great time, we had probably 25 people come over five hours
[02:19] <nhaines> That's not a bad turnout.  Plenty of time to spend with each person!
[02:20] <nhaines> Is there a report or blog post about that anywhere?
[02:20] <aidian> yeah, not too bad for being down in the socio-political ghetto end of the market
[02:20] <nhaines> Location, location.  :)
[02:21] <aidian> i haven't posted pictures to our website (www.lugod.org) yet, but there are some on our facebook page
[02:21] <aidian> https://www.facebook.com/groups/lugod/
[02:21] <nhaines> Thank you.  I'll check that out.
[02:21] <nhaines> Are you subscribed to our mailing list?
[02:21] <aidian> i am! it reminded me to be here tonight.
[02:22] <nhaines> That's good!  Usually reminders happen during the week, but I've been exceptionally busy lately.  Not a great excuse, but at least it's true.
[02:22] <aidian> believe me, i feel you.
[02:23] <aidian> what i really wanted to do was talk about advocacy resources, though. we're looking for anything and everything we can use to share and promote linux and foss in general.
[02:24] <aidian> since i found a stack of flyer for this group, they'll be on our table at monthly meetings and at our next market stall on november 10th.
[02:24] <aidian> (provided you're ok with that, of course)
[02:24] <nhaines> I appreciate that!  We do talk about refreshing those from time to time, but it never seems to happen.
[02:24] <nhaines> If you could maybe email a photo of the flyers so I can make sure they're still accurate, that'd be nice.  My email is my nick @ubuntu.com
[02:25] <aidian> shall do next time i raid our bin o' flyers.
[02:25] <nhaines> Great.  :)
[02:26] <nhaines> Anything else to add?
[02:26] <aidian> nope, just if anyone wants to talk about sharing existing or creating new printable flyers or other promotional material that we can display, give me a shout
[02:26] <aidian> i'm on freenode at this nick, in #lugod, and reachable at root@lugod.org
[02:27] <aidian> ...which i probably should have spam shielded in that line, but too lat enow.
[02:27] <aidian> anyways, that's all. thanks a lot.
[02:27] <nhaines> I'll redact it from the meeting log if you wish.  :)
[02:28] <nhaines> Thanks for being here!
[02:28] <aidian> would be appreciated :)
[02:28] <aidian> cheers
[02:28] <nhaines> That'll wrap it up for this meeting.  Our next meeting will be on November 4th, 2018.
[02:29] <nhaines> It will be at 7 pm PST, and do note that yes, Daylight Savings Time ends that morning.  :)
[02:29] <nhaines> Until then!
[02:29] <nhaines> #endmeeting
[02:29] <aidian> fun :)
[02:29] <aidian> i suppose i should have also mentioned that we're always looking for speakers. :)
[02:30] <nhaines> Right... well luckily that's a perfect thing to post on the mailing list! :D
[02:30] <aidian> is it? oh good.
[02:31] <aidian> hehe
[02:31] <aidian> advocacy is a tough business.
[02:32] <nhaines> It sure can be.  Fun, though!
[02:32] <aidian> also that. i've had a blast since i started in lugod. accidentally became president a couple years ago now.
[02:32] <nhaines> The farmer's market booth was a good idea.  It helps get people thinking about events and participating.
[02:33] <aidian> yeah. it took a bit of work to put together, but not really that much, and it was great to just be seen out there.
[02:33] <nhaines> Hat kind of Linux usage do you see in your LUG?  (distros, purpose, etc.)
[02:34] <aidian> oh, a pretty wide range of use, really. we have some purists who are 100% linux all the time, plenty of people who used mixed OS's (including me)
[02:34] <aidian> pretty much every variety from Mint to Gentoo
[02:35] <aidian> Ubuntu as well, of course, hehe. i have a netbook with lubuntu
[02:35] <nhaines> I'm Ubuntu only except for gaming, which is 50/50%.  But less and less relevant in my life unfortunately. :)
[02:36] <aidian> most of my linux stuff is just running debian on a home server, or raspbian on raspberry pis
[02:36] <aidian> the club webserver is ubuntu
[02:37] <nhaines> Oh, I think Ubuntu 18.10 just got full kernel support for the RPi 3 and 3+.  :)
[02:37] <aidian> ooooh nice
[02:38] <nhaines> I'm looking forward to finding an excuse to run Ubuntu Core on an RPi for a project.  Those updates are nice.
[02:38] <aidian> i'm looking for an excuse to get a pi3+, hehe
[02:39] <nhaines> I want a pi0w, but I'm pretty sure I have no use for one, haha.
[02:40] <aidian> i'm actually using one as a security camera
[02:40] <nhaines> How do you like it?
[02:40] <aidian> it's really pretty nice. motioneye is really slick.
[02:40] <aidian> and i love the official pi0 case.
[02:41] <nhaines> I like the Piromoni cases, but the pi0 case is pretty cute.
[02:42] <aidian> it is. really fun to break one out of my backpack as a demonstration unit and hand it to someone.
[02:42] <aidian> "here's a linux computer."
[02:44] <nhaines> Yeah, I have Ubuntu MATE on mine.  But a quick SD card swap yields Kodi and emulators.
[02:44] <aidian> oooh, nice.
[02:46] <nhaines> A full graphical desktop always makes for an impressive demonstration.
[02:47] <aidian> yeah, it does. my 2b is a raspbian desktop. i tend to leave it at home with vnc enabled, and remote into it.
[02:48] <aidian> ..and then i like.. fire up xmille, lol
[02:49] <aidian> https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/xmille
[02:50] <nhaines> Ooh, that's a new one to me!
[02:50] <aidian> haha, it's very old
[02:51] <aidian> that or i show off tuxpaint
[02:51] <nhaines> Haha, tuxpaint is fun.
[02:52] <aidian> our founder and former president is the author :)
[02:52] <nhaines> As is 'hollywood' https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/hollywood
[02:52] <nhaines> Oh, how did I not remember that?  :)
[02:52] <aidian> :D
[02:55] <aidian> oh man, i wish there was a debian equivalent of hollywood, haha
[02:55] <nhaines> Haha, is it not in Debian?
[02:56] <aidian> doesn't seem to be
[02:59] <nhaines> There's info and a YouTube video here, if you haven't found it: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2014/12/hollywood-technodrama.html
[03:02] <nhaines> I guess you could also just try the snap. :)
[03:03] <aidian> one of our members has a pretty good 'hollywood' technique. i think he just hexdumps /dev/urandom and greps for a random number
[03:03] <nhaines> Oh!  Actually: https://twitter.com/dustinkirkland/status/923942207266095104
[03:04] <aidian> oh sweet deal
[03:05] <nhaines> I just found out about the variant 'wallstreet', so now I'm checking that out (thanks to the snap).
[03:07] <aidian> neat
[03:08] <nhaines> Unfortunately, I have to get back to work.  I got hired to do a book translation with a short turnaround time, and it started off slower than I planned (it's a scifi videogame tie-in, so lots of cross reference with the manual and guides).  So it's back to work for me!  :D
[03:08] <aidian> whoo boy, well good luck with that
[03:08] <aidian> nice talking to you
[03:08] <aidian> i'll be around if anyone else wants to pipe up about stuff, too
[03:09] <nhaines> Thanks! :)  And great talking to you, too.
[03:10] <aidian> :D