[00:02] Is there a convenient way to obtain the LTS kernel (4.15 currently) for Ubuntu 18.10 instead of its 4.18 kernel? [00:03] For example, on Arch you can install linux-lts and use it instead of the latest. It will still be automatically updated. [00:21] I've just updated to Cosmic and there's some weirdness with my theme. Notifications and popovers are light themed even though my desktop is dark themed now. [00:21] I couldn't find a setting to adjust this. Is there a doc for configuring notification appearance? [00:22] There are a lot of little details that are light too, like borders on certain window elements [00:25] Whenever I create a new file and try to save it into a specific file name, it starts searching instead. [00:26] It's a bit weird because the filename is highlighted but as soon as you start typing, it begins a search instead. [00:26] Is that happening for you guys as well? I would like to just ctrl+s, type filename, press enter to save. [00:27] But the default behavior (at least in my system), ctrl+s, type filename -> starts search, which makes it a bit annoying. === BgLamersTeam is now known as Dreaman === daniel is now known as Guest59755 [02:54] Hello [02:57] if i have installed a few programs an uninstalled them and want to clean up my system how would i do that? [02:59] balsaq: "sudo apt autoremove" .... autoremove is used to remove packages that were automatically installed to satisfy dependencies for other packages and are now no longer needed as dependencies changed or the package(s) needing them were removed in the meantime. [02:59] balsaq: you can check apt manual by "man apt" [03:00] so far i just removed the package [03:00] but iwonder if it leave a bit of a mess behind [03:01] balsaq: try bleachbit for leftovers & system cleaning [03:02] balsaq: it will probably leave some dependencies that we're installed... if those dependencies are no longer in use, you can safely remove them via "sudo apt autoremove" [03:02] i did not see it install dependencies [03:02] and when i ran auto remove it saud all zeros [03:03] how does blechit work [03:03] its like ccleaner of windows [03:03] ok [03:03] ccleaner is ok but i seen it botcha asystem too [03:03] balsaq: remove does not remove config files ( as may want to reinstall ) --purge is the switch to completely remove a package . [03:03] is bleachbit safe [03:04] ok how to i run purge [03:04] balsaq: you need to read bleachbit settings first, dont just enable what you dont understand [03:04] is --purge a terminal comand? [03:05] agree with lotuspsychje... if you seen ccleaner botcha your system, bleachbit also will, if you're not careful. only enable what you want to clean [03:05] balsaq: ' sudo apt remove --purge . Be very careful with bleachkit, as it can and will remove more than intended. [03:05] i dont use ccleaner for years i dont need it anymore in windows10 [03:07] says unable to lacate the package [03:08] locate [03:08] balsaq, because it is already removed [03:09] balsaq, you should have used --purge when you first removed the package [03:09] so should i install again and the run it [03:10] balsaq, I don't think you should care so much about it but I'm curious about the experiment [03:11] no experiments [03:11] balsaq, looking forward to know if it works [03:11] just want to unnistall stuff fully and correctly [03:12] balsaq: the apt way does what it promises [03:13] balsaq, this is what the manual says: "purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and purged (any configuration files are deleted too)." [03:14] balsaq, I personally always used "apt-get remove" and never cared about it [03:15] that command is invalid anyways' [03:15] balsaq, if you're coming from a windows background, you're probably used to have your system slowly degrading over time and as software is installed and leftovers make the system even slower. In the "debian world" this is very different [03:16] balsaq, "sudo apt purge " [03:17] weird i reinstalled the package and the command says it cannot fin the package [03:18] balsaq, you installed it with "sudo apt-get install" ? [03:19] no i used the software center [03:19] i think it worked but just doesnt give me a positive feeling let me check further' [03:20] it might be a snap app [03:20] i just ran a search in ubuntu and its gone [03:20] hmmm... I don't know how to find out the name of packages installed from the software center. I'd recommend to try to use the software center itself to unninstall it [03:20] does that mean it worked?even if it is not a ubuntu app [03:21] it is a snap and i see now it is all OVER MY COMPUTER [03:21] damn [03:21] i gottta get rid of this [03:22] balsaq, I really can't answer. All I can recommend is that if you used the software center to install it, I think you should use the software center to unninstall it [03:23] yeah i will but it leave stuff behinf=d [03:23] behind [03:24] balsaq, can you give some detail of what exactly is the stuff left? [03:25] I mean, where are such files [03:25] in my computer [03:25] in my file system [03:25] lots of things with that name on it [03:25] can you copy-paste a path of one of these files? [03:25] and i cant delete them from their location manually [03:27] balsaq, if you didn't create the file, you should not delete it [03:27] balsaq, can you copy-paste the path of one of these files? [03:27] i went into filesystem, then i chose other locations, then i used the search and typed in the name of the snap package and there is was all over === jiwang is now known as RNM [03:29] balsaq, can you type "locate " in a terminal e post the output here? [03:29] it all over even in my swap [03:30] whats the exact command [03:30] its in so many locations this will be difficult [03:30] pieces of it all over the drive and even in the swap [03:31] balsaq, that is because it is not something you should do. This probably should be done automatically [03:31] balsaq, can you type "locate " in a terminal e post the output here? [03:31] balsaq, can you type "locate " in a terminal and post the output here? [03:32] that idea prodiced nothing' [03:33] i tried it right away [03:33] balsaq, try "find / -iname " [03:33] suido find? [03:33] ru giving me all the words? [03:33] balsaq, no, not required [03:34] so i just type find and the pckg in terminal? [03:35] dont i need to write at least sudo [03:35] its not working [03:35] balsaq, type "find / -iname ", just replace with the name of one of the files you think should have been removed. And press enter. [03:35] balsaq: dont troll us please, give us usefull info first [03:35] nothing came up [03:35] i did find and the name of the package [03:36] lotus im not trolling so stay out of it [03:36] if i have to i will reinstall [03:36] i dont want it all over my filesystem [03:36] balsaq: Bear in mind if it is a Snap install, teh command to remove from terminal is ' sudo snap remove ' . Snap packages are faitly new and we often times do not think if that system . [03:36] balsaq, that is very strange... if at least you could give us a path to at least one of these files but "all over my computer.. on my swap" that doesn't means anything [03:37] ahh ok no womere i was struggling [03:37] i was using wrong command one second [03:38] i told u exactly what i meant i ran a search under COMPUTER in my file system and file sfrom that install were in many placesincluding my swap fiel too many to name' [03:38] i will try the new comman now [03:40] says it is not installed [03:41] ok i know what to do now [03:42] ok the new command worked as far as i can see as termianl said removed [03:43] now i will run the same search in my filesystem and see if it left file laying arouund [03:46] i ran that find / and it found nothing so that is good.... [03:46] now i will look in COMPUTER === Dreaman is now known as BgLamersTeam [03:48] it still is in .tmp .lock and .mnt [03:48] i will try to manually remove those leftovers [03:49] balsaq, I think these are mere caches and not something you should care about [03:50] manually removing things that you did not create is generally not something you should do [03:50] ok here is the cut and paste of what is left over and i cannot remove them [03:51] hmm wont let me paste i there for some reason [03:51] ok marco i will have top leave them [03:52] seems odd i have to keep them though [03:52] balsaq, use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ to copy-paste it [03:52] ok [03:52] balsaq, if it really is taking space, it maybe a bug [03:53] balsaq: Likely they are in memory and will not be there upon a reboot . [03:55] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KHN2YD35t7/ [03:55] there u have it [03:55] my leftovers [03:56] balsaq, my opinion is the same of Bashing-om [03:56] ok did u see the pastebin [03:57] it is a few lins above [03:57] lines* [03:57] balsaq, I think these are all caches except for "/var/lib/snapd/sequence/wireguard-fenriswolf.json" [03:57] can i get rid of it? [03:58] balsaq: Yeah .. thise locarion are 'virtual' - with the possible exception of /var/lib/snapd/sequence.... . Reboot . to see the difference . [03:58] ok thanks [04:15] ok was hard to get back' [04:18] it still lives on in one location the location that ended in the eord sequence [04:19] apparantly we are not allowed to delete a json file in our own computer? [04:22] anyone know why i cannot delete a .json file that i dont need? [04:30] balsaq, probably because you have no permission [04:31] exactly [04:31] i own the computer [04:31] balsaq, don't delete the file. It can be done if you use "sudo rm " but don't do it [04:31] but ubnuntu owns the file in my comoputer [04:31] why woul i not want to do it? [04:31] balsaq, this is probably used by snapd (the program that manages snaps) [04:32] hmmm [04:32] hard to believe i need it now but ok if u insist [04:32] it is the last file in a sequence [04:32] i know i need the ones that come before it [04:32] balsaq, it is probably a cache of some kind. Probably so it doesn't have to gather info again about this package if you install it again [04:32] big cache at 797 bytes [04:33] if that is really bothering you, I'd recommend you to file a bug [04:33] 797 bytes is just a few lines of text. [04:33] well its not a bug at all...the folks who wrote the code decided that the owner of the computer has no right to remove it [04:34] its just that simple [04:34] it has root [04:34] balsaq, as I said, I think you can remove it with "sudo rm " [04:34] but I'd recommend you no to do that [04:35] i will leave it since my system is running smooth and i just installed it ubuntu today i have been away from it for a long time [04:35] this install seems good so i guesss iwont risk it === Class7_ is now known as Class7 [05:25] hello [05:25] can i ask a question here? [05:31] unknownme99, you should ask your question instead of asking if you can ask [05:37] can someone tell me what the option iptables --seconds 60 --hitcount 3 mean ? [05:39] i have unlimited data plan for my phone but with limited hotspot data. is there an app in ubuntu that can be alternative of pdanet+? [05:42] unknownme99: are you trying to (a) share the android devices' internet access with your ubuntu computer, so the ubuntu computer can get online through the android phone or (b) the other way around? [05:45] tomreyn (a) [05:47] unknownme99: so that's an android question, unless you're asking how to connect to the wireless hotspot or usb / bluetooth modem your phone provides [05:58] i mean the driver for pdanet+ only has windows and mac. so i want an alternative to share my phone internet, i dont want to use normal hotspot because i have 3gb per month for tethering but unlimited data for mobile use.. === unknownme9934 is now known as unknownme99 === mnemonic is now known as Guest45630 === capellaGuts is now known as capeLah [06:40] anyone have any idea why uvc wouldnt be auto detecting a webcam [06:41] jamie1: did you try cheese and choose your webcam? [06:43] lotus|NUC: yes i have checked with cheese and its not even showing up in lsusb [06:43] well i think its in there but not identified as a logitech brio [06:44] jamie1: open a terminal and: tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug in your webcam please, see what errors you get === capeLah is now known as capellasGuts [06:50] lotus|NUC: sadly i cant... im remote lol [06:51] jamie1: your webcam is connected on your remote box? [06:52] lotus|NUC: helping someone else who is new to linux and im not camera guru lol [06:53] not really seeing it in either lsmod or lsusb [06:54] i am seeing usb "hubs" that are not real though which im suspecting it might be one of them [06:54] jamie1: can you ask the person to try another usb port? [06:55] jamie1: wich ubuntu version is this? [06:55] working on it, they are dissabled [06:56] lotus|NUC: its 18.10 [06:56] its running on a tr 2950wx so that makes it more interesting === the_ant1 is now known as the_ant [07:48] HOLY SHIT IT WORKED [07:49] illuminaughtyy: no swearing here please [07:50] sorry, I forgot this is a christian server [07:51] it's not, but we keep this channel family friendly [07:51] Riiight. W [07:51] Well anyway [07:51] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1057783/no-brightness-control-18-04-lts-sys-class-backlight-is-empty [07:52] This fixed my unable to adjust brightnesss on my laptop screen [07:52] after trying many, many fixes [07:53] Let's see if it works on my desktop too (my gut remains cynical of it fixing the desktop brightness adjustment as well, but who knows) [07:54] You know I found out the other day that I had a game that was just a little too laggy to play on my laptop.. on Windows 10.. switched to Linux and it worked fine, and smoothly [07:54] Though I wonder if g-sync works in Linux. [07:54] I don't even know how I'd go about finding out. [07:55] Actually there might be an option to show an annoying icon when it's working. Hm... [07:57] is the brightness slider in a menu outside the top right corner of the screen menu? [08:11] Hi. ubuntu 18 removed the gksu, so my laucher for "service apache2 start" doesnt work anymore. Know an alternative? [08:12] cariveri: "pkexc" [08:12] cariveri: "pkexec" (typo!) [08:12] cariveri: short for Policy Kit execute [08:13] TJ-: I tried that: Exec=/usr/bin/pkexec service apache2 start [08:13] without success [08:14] cariveri: you'd need to add a policy-kit policy; see "man pkexec" [08:15] cariveri: you'd but the Action (policy-kit) file in /etc/polkit-1/localauthority [08:18] is there any downside to putting key repeat delay to maximum in an attempt to mitigate mechanical keyboard chatter? [08:21] ah nevermind, it did not fix the key chatter. [08:21] I think it may have toneed it down a bit, but as you see theeere, the e is still repeating like crazy sometimes. [08:24] TJ-: hm.. ok. it doesnt have to be beautiful. I did this now as a work around :Exec=/usr/bin/terminator --execute echo "start apache2. Please enter ps." ; sudo service apache2 start [08:31] Hi guys.. I installed a second WP site on my ubuntu server. On the second site I was able to get the WP install screen and istall it. However when I went to change the theme the site disconnected and I cant connect to it : ERR_conn_timed_out [08:31] Any way to check how to debug this? [09:00] lucylu: ERR_conn_timed_out may suggest a database serverconnection has timed out. [09:01] with wordpress specific questions you may get better support in #wordpress (but keep asking here if it's about OS services like webserver and database server not working) [09:04] tomreyn so is there a log I ould look at? [09:06] lucylu: i don't know where wordpress logs. possible into php logs. and php may log into the webserver logs. but i don't know which webserver you're using there, or which PHP API. [09:07] lucylu: nor which ubuntu version. nor which database server. if this is a mysql server it probably logs to /var/log/mysql* [09:07] are there any tools for creating / editing host protected areas? hdat2 is quite clunky [09:10] Sterist: generally any disk editing tools, after using something like "hdparm -N..." to increase the HPA value [09:13] I assume most current hdds will claim that HPA is disabled [09:15] I'm trying to create one to bring the disc under the maximum size my console will accept. [09:15] thanks tomreyn [09:16] Sterist: be sure to read the hdparm man page about -N [09:19] all the comment says is "very dangerous" lol but the disc contains no data. is it implying operational danger..? [09:20] that's not how i read it. [09:20] i meant to point out the possibility of data loss and the difference between temporary and permanent settings [09:22] Sterist: if you set the value too high it could cause the disk firmware some confusion [09:23] I do have to take a good chunk out =/ [09:23] need to reduce from 2TB to 1.85 [09:25] why [09:28] ps3's officially have a maximum internal size of 1TB, unofficially 1.5tb (Sony arbitrarily began denying support >1TB on newer firmware but as one person discovered by experimenting with HPAs, the theoretical max is 1.86 and some change [09:31] Hi, if I run the command "pbuilder-dist xenial create" on my Ubuntu Xenial I run into this dependency issue: https://gist.github.com/nook24/cceeb12cde6979c2b8cd3f09c7e0dfc8 This only happens since 18. Oct 2018. Any suggestions? [09:31] create the pbuilder env for trusty or bionic does still work [09:31] dziegler: 404 not found [09:35] TJ-: retry https://pastebin.com/WUthgaxu [09:35] Sees like github is buggy today [09:38] dziegler: is that the complete log from running the command? if not, can you capture the entire output? "pastebinit <( pbuilder-dist xenial create 2>&1 )" [09:41] TJ-: Of Course: https://pastebin.com/d345yAfi [09:45] dziegler: line 823 onwards looks vital to this [09:50] Yes, I guess this is the part where pbuilder tries to update the chroot environment. But i have no idea how to resolve a issue like this inside of pbuilder it self :/ [09:53] The current gcc Version in Ubuntu Xenial is 4:5.3.1-1ubuntu1. So it makes sense that pbuilder can't find 4:5.2 [09:58] dziegler: well, let's figure out out. Those are being removed due to some dependency of the packages being installed, listed in the next few lines, so we can examine the dependencies of those [10:06] gcc-5-base is going to ask for gcc5.3.1 => Depends: gcc-5-base (= 5.3.1-14ubuntu2) [10:13] Hi, I'm having issues with BT firmware, I have an Athero Vendor BT, in debian I had to install firmware-atheros to it work properly, but in ubuntu linux-firmware dont let me install the firmware-atheros and BT dont work properly. I dont know what to do [10:17] can we see your dmesg ? [10:18] sure gpunk , https://pastebin.com/xNLcp8zu [10:21] define "dont work properly" plz [10:22] gpunk, I can't pair with others devices, sometimes it sees and sometimes it doesnt see others BT devices [10:23] ok that means the firmware is loaded, [10:23] dziegler: i think you local archive logic is broken; your log shows it installing "Retrieving g++ 4:5.3.1-1ubuntu1" but that package version was only valid during the development of xenial, and was superceded [10:23] dziegler: combined with all those messages about hard links already existing, I suspect your problem lies there [10:25] Yo peeps! Got a question regarding versions. Can I assume that a package (With a certain name) will exist in both *.04 and *.10? That is, I can assume that openjdk-11-jre will exist in both 18.04 and 18.10? [10:26] Kim^J: you can never assume [10:26] Barones: whats the laptop model ? [10:27] TJ-: I will try something... [10:27] and the ubuntu version [10:28] Barones: seeing the *entire* dmesg would be more helpful; grep removes important context. You can do "pastebinit <( dmesg )" [10:28] product: K46CB [10:28] vendor: ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. [10:28] running 18.04 ubuntu [10:28] towards the bottom, in the "Manipulation Methods" area, could someone please confirm if "number of non-HPA visible sectors" means "usable area" or "reserved area" [10:28] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_protected_area [10:29] pretty sure it means "usable" but.... just want to be sure.... [10:29] wording could have been better. [10:31] Sterist: the number of sectors NOT in the protected area [10:32] righto. time to give it a shot [10:35] Thanks gpunk and TJ- , I could pair with smartphone just now, honestly don't know why, since I couldn't before. I thought that linux-firmware was loading a different firmware to BT chipset, I'll keep doing more tests with other devices [10:36] Barones: interference from WiFi devices possibly? is a BT-coexist option available in the driver? [10:40] Hello, can Canonical devs do something against spammers polluting bug reports? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz-fusion-plugins-main/+bug/183685 [10:40] Launchpad bug 183685 in compiz-fusion-plugins-main (Ubuntu) "compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Fix released] [10:42] :) [10:42] TJ-: maybe, honestly I dont know which spectrum freq BT works on. I can't say for sure about coexist, I didn't see anything like that on logs and commands outputs [10:42] what command do I run to upgrade from 18.04 to 18.10 [10:42] TJ-: I used a new Xenial Box on DigitalOcean now. "apt-get install ubuntu-dev-tools && pbuilder-dist xenial create" runs into the exact same issue. So there needs to be someting broken in the current stable release [10:42] hey hello [10:43] dumb question about apport-collect: I'm facing the same issue as described in this bug, and trying to use "apport-collect" to help with it fails: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1799007/comments/6 [10:43] Launchpad bug 1799007 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "no sound after 18.10 upgrade" [Undecided,Incomplete] [10:43] it does fail stating I'm not the one who reported the issue, nor I did subscribe to the bug [10:44] which I did (I think? I replied and I ticked the "it does affects me") [10:44] I've already regenerated credentials multiple times as well [10:44] TJ-: that's dmesg output - https://pastebin.com/k153jcdD [10:45] where does export write? I tried checking .bashrc but could not find it there [10:45] is there a way to check where it is exported to? [10:46] drogasW: Does you mean "export FOO=bar" ? [10:46] dziegler: that does me mean yes [10:47] drogasW: Exports just define a variable in the users environment. It gets not saved to a file by default [10:48] not sure what you mean but in the past when I have run export foo=bar or similar it would usually show up in .bashrc, but not on my current workstation (xubuntu) so not sure where it is [10:48] you mean .bash_history ? [10:52] no I mean where does export export it to? so last time when I installed anaconda, it was in /etc/bash.bashrc for some reason, i moved the snippet to .bashrc though cause I want it to be in user env. [10:53] you are confused, command shells never endup in .bashrc [10:53] what command do I run to upgrade from 18.04 to 18.10 [10:53] but now, during installation of PETSc I did export PETSC_DIR=$PWD PETSC_ARCH=gnu-dbg but cannot see it anywhere [10:53] they endup in .bash_history [10:53] do I have to click gui buttons or what? [10:54] gpunk: mnnnn maybe... [10:54] so how can I add it to my path? [10:54] drogasW: vim ~/.bashrc [10:54] I really want to upgrade to 18.10 from my 18.04 VM, I'd want to know what exactly do I do to make that happen [10:54] editmanually .bashrc [10:54] could anyone here help me with that? [10:55] and relogon ir type "source .bashrc" [10:56] emilsp: For Ubuntu Server use: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html.en For GUI Ubuntus go with the GUI tool... [10:57] TJ-: Any ideas on how to solve the builder issue? I could also add your public key to to digital ocean box... [10:58] dziegler: is there a difference between a gui install and a server one? [10:59] do-release-upgrade doesn't upgrade anything, no new release was found. [11:00] An unrelated question - do all flavours for a given release run dnsmasq? [11:02] you know what grinds my gears, when channels send messages to Status, instead of in the channel [11:04] anyways does anyone know, if im not coming from a 17.x upgrade, how do i nuke gnome on 18.x [11:05] your question is unclear [11:05] gpunk: which question? [11:05] "anyways does anyone know, if im not coming from a 17.x upgrade, how do i nuke gnome on 18.x" [11:05] yea, fair. [11:06] emilsp: what does "lsb_release -d" output? [11:06] Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS [11:06] Do LTS releases only upgrade to other LTS releases? [11:07] gpunk, i mean remove the new interface and put unity back on a fresh install, because i know how on an upgrade from 17.x but otherwise no [11:08] emilsp: yes, check the file /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades [11:08] Obscenity: uninstall gnome ans install unity ... [11:09] if i unistall gnome, wont i get a grey screen with an x for a cursor, and not be able to do anything? [11:09] do it from a text-console [11:09] dziegler: thanks :) [11:10] Obscenity: install lightdm and xfce, `systemctl disable gdm; systemctl enable lightdm` and reboot [11:10] or install unity, test it, then uninstall gnome [11:10] like Ctrl-Alt+F2? or like Ctrl-Alt+T [11:10] ct alt fx [11:10] okie, thanks [11:10] no, like just disable the gdm service, it will not get started on next boot. And just enable another display manager service. [11:26] Howdy all [11:31] all appears to go well with the hdparm command, and poling the detection afterwards confirms HPA is active, but gparted shows no change and after reboot, hdparm doesn't see the change either. [11:35] change not seen by Ubuntu or Windows post-reboot, and not visible to anything except for hdparm pre-reboot. [11:35] quite a placebo [11:41] dziegler: have you made any progress? I've been out running [11:48] seems gparted might have reported ...not necessarily incorrect... but partial info, but I don't know if this is the cause of this issue. just my suspicion. gparted doesn't tell the user the sector size listed is logical and not physical [11:49] the number I used in the hdparm command was based on logical (512) but not the Advanced Format standard (physical of 4092) [11:50] so I think in this case, the command I issued technically should have the hard drive now thinking it's 8x bigger than it actually is, and thus, some kind of safety kicked in and prevented the change...? I really don't know. shot in the dark. [11:51] Sterist: the -N by default (as man hdparm says) only affects the temproary in-memory setting [11:52] Sterist: as the man-page says for "-N": "... To change the permanent (non-volatile) value, prepend a leading p character immediately before [11:52] the first digit of the value. [11:54] hey guys, trying to run nowx via wine on ubuntu 16, 32 bit. installation completed succesfully, when i try to open the app, i receive a wine error saying that the "QMEmulator has encountered a serious problem and needs to close" [11:54] I did. "hdparm --yes-i-know-what-im-doing -N p########## /dev/sdX" is the format I used [11:54] When i click on show details, it just hangs - kindly help on how to debug this [11:59] tamarind ask #winehq [12:00] thank you Obscenity [12:07] Sterist: you should be able to tell the number to use based on the reported HPA count and the reported size of the device (divide the size by the count) [12:11] the "get" (check / audit) command reports back that the HPA is active and correct as I "set" it and the process of setting it gave me zero errors of any kind (or destruction of hardware lol) yet, before reboot only hdparm can see it and after, nada. [12:12] "get" = hdparm -N /dev/sdb [12:13] "set" = command as demonstrated in message about 10min ago [12:13] "sudo" was used, of course. [12:15] hands up who says "sudo" as "sue doe" o/ [12:16] maybe incompatible with certain brands? idk if the firmware on hard drives it interacts with is standardized or subject to proprietary locks [12:17] the fun is in the hunt. [12:18] Sterist: maybe youu need to check the manual for the specific drive; it may require additional options to hdparm. Is the drive directly connected to the PC on SATA, or via something like a USB<>SATA bridge chip? [12:20] I prepared for possible USB complications. it's attached via DVD-to-SATA mount (eSATA? not sure of actual term) but every tool I've checked doesn't have any info mentioned regarding the brand of the mount or type of mount [12:21] dug it out of the ol' curiosity botique adapter box ;) [12:25] Sterist: what does this show "ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/ | grep sdb" [12:25] I removed gcc,g++ 6 from my machine but when I run ldd it says I'm still linking with version 6 even though I installed 5. When I run cmake it says I'm using version 5. I guess it's a problem with the ln [12:27] brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 16, Oct 22 05:04 /dev/sdb [12:32] IRC crashed, if there was a message after my last, I missed it [12:34] Sterist, nope no other messages there. [12:38] Sterist: the output of the "ls" command I gave should be something similar to "lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Oct 19 15:46 pci-0000:00:1f.2-ata-1 -> ../../sda" [12:38] TJ-: unfortunately no [12:38] Sterist: it shows the device path - in my example here PCI > (s)ATA > device [12:39] dziegler: I tried to replicate in a 16.04 LXD container, but it seems deboostrap tries to use 'mknod' by default, and there is no way to tell pbuilder-dist to pass --deboostrapopts (for --variant=fakechroot) ! [12:40] hey all. I'm stuck in a tty. gui started getting choppy so I switched to tty4 to check htop and now ctrl alt f7 does nothing [12:41] Doomweaver: try switching to tty1 (Alt+F1) [12:41] TJ-: So your LXC container run into the same issue? [12:41] dziegler: no, it ran into deboostrap failing to start :) [12:41] TJ-: oh...... who did this -_- [12:42] TJ-: It feels like, today is the day where i need to replace pbuilder with docker. I postpone that for a year now. [12:43] Doomweaver: if you're using Gnome, it defaults to tty1 [12:43] Doomweaver: or rather, Gnome Display Manager (gmd3) [12:43] was I supposed to put something other than "/dev/sdb" or does this mean it's not seen as a "direct" connection? not sure I follow [12:44] definitely not my learning hat on, and I'm not idle between responses either, but (almost) every step in this is new to me [12:45] Sterist: the command as I showed it. If there isn't a symlink under /dev/disk/by-path/ that matches that device it suggests udev isn't working correctly or the interface is one it cannot build a symlink for [12:45] Sterist: show us "pastebinit <( ls -l /dev/disk/by-path )" [12:47] the drive would be seen as blank / uninitialized, it's current formatting is proprietary and encrypted [12:47] so, can't go beyond /dev/sdb [12:47] but there's nothing on it important. [12:49] oh wait wait... I see, you meant literally to type disk/by-path lol I see now. I interpreted that as a "fill this in with whatever your path is" [12:49] Sterist: doh ! [12:50] Sterist: the links under /dev/disk/by-*/ are various ways of representing the device - there is by-id, by-path, by-uuid etc [12:51] lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Oct 22 05:04 pci-0000:00:1f.2-ata-2 -> ../../sdb [12:52] Sterist: OK, so that confirms it is a direct ATA connection, so there's nothing in the way. So you'd need to check the disk's own manual for the precise effect of writing the HPA [12:55] any harm in commanding device reset? [12:56] nothing's been written since the HPA command. [13:03] I don't think so, the OS does that [13:06] TJ-: Just as an Update, its also broken on Bionic (which make sense, because pbuilder should use the same env) [13:08] dziegler: building xenial on bionic you mean? [13:08] Running "pbuilder-dist xenial create" in bionic [13:11] dziegler: trying it here [13:12] found another discussion that pointed to built-in "security mode" being frozen but when that person managed to unfreeze, changes still didn't stick, so, I'm going to call it a day n dig dig dig tomorrow. as always, thanks again TJ :) [13:17] Hi. Is there a "free cloud desktop" of ubuntu? [13:18] I've got bidirectional shared clipboard and drag&drop enabled in Oracle VM, but can't copy/paste to the Windows 10 running in VM still. Anyone else had this problem? [13:20]