[00:00] <Wafficus> so where should I place my folder with the welcome center code
[00:00] <Wafficus> like you have it on phabricator as
[00:00] <Wafficus> "lubuntu-welcome-center"
[00:00] <Wafficus> mine is:
[00:00] <Wafficus> lubuntuWelcomeCenter
[00:00] <wxl> huh
[00:00] <Wafficus> aka a folder full of the necessary code
[00:00] <wxl> you did git clone whatever, right?
[00:00] <Wafficus> like I have both directories side by side in my "phabricator" folder
[00:00] <Wafficus> um yeah just the git clone command yes
[00:00] <Wafficus> so should I drag and drop my code into the "branches" folder?
[00:00] <wxl> so move the files from the one folder to the other one
[00:01] <Wafficus> yeah for sure
[00:01] <wxl> then add, commit, push
[00:01] <Wafficus> but its just a matter of where I should put them is what confused me for some reason
[00:01] <wxl> you 
[00:01] <wxl> put
[00:01] <wxl> them
[00:01] <wxl> in
[00:01] <wxl> the
[00:01] <wxl> folder
[00:01] <Wafficus> that's it?
[00:01] <Wafficus> no branches?
[00:01] <wxl> don't sweat that for the time being
[00:01] <Wafficus> ok cool
[00:01] <Wafficus> just want to make sure
[00:01] <wxl> we can always move stuff around
[00:01] <Wafficus> don't want to screw it up for everyone else
[00:01] <Wafficus> great I'll try that real quick then
[00:01] <Wafficus> thanks for bearing with me
[00:01] <Wafficus> glad you're here hah
[00:01] <wxl> np
[00:02] <Wafficus> its super basic
[00:02] <Wafficus> but I have buttons laid out vertically so far
[00:02] <Wafficus> so obviously things will change
[00:02] <Wafficus> and we have to add actual functionality to it
[00:02] <Wafficus> but this is sort of the biggest qt project i've done so far haha so bear with me guys on the design (super simple)
[00:02] <Wafficus> anyway
[00:02] <wxl> keep at it. you're doing great!
[00:02] <Wafficus> i'll try that real quick
[00:04] <Steedalion> I've got 2 pull requests for documentation on github, will someone kindly merge when they have time. Thanks.
 I'll get it
[00:05] <wxl> we should work out a way to have github automatically create a arc diff
[00:05] <Wafficus> wxl: place it in the .git folder right wxl?
[00:06] <wxl> noooo
[00:06] <wxl> .git is a special folder
[00:06] <wxl> you want it in the containing folder
[00:06] <Wafficus> gotcha
[00:07] <Wafficus> ok so I just placed the files in there
[00:07] <Wafficus> gonna read your instructions
[00:07] <Wafficus> like not in the .git folder
[00:07] <Wafficus> just the lubuntu-welcome-center folder
[00:07] <Steedalion> I'll think I should learn the arc thing. It's unreasonable to expect the whole workflow to change for me. But github is more familiar and would break down some barriers for new controibutors.
[00:07] <Wafficus> git add, git commit, git push
[00:08] <Wafficus> hmm, so do I git add all of these files like "git add lubuntuWelcomeCenter.pro" for ex?
[00:08] <wxl> yeah
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[00:08] <wxl> or just do `git add -A` to add them all
[00:08] <Wafficus> cool I'll try that
[00:08] <Steedalion> Thanks.
[00:08] <wxl> or do `git commit -a` to commit and add at the same time
[00:08] <Steedalion> Thanks for merge.
[00:09] <Wafficus> what would you like for me to place in the git commit command?
[00:09] <wxl> but safer to add explicitly
[00:09] <Wafficus> thanks but too late ha, i did commit separately
[00:09] <wxl> whatever you think is reasonable
[00:09] <Wafficus> ok
[00:09] <Wafficus> I only ask cause I forget the styling guide from last time
[00:09] <wxl> "initial commit" is traditional, but it might be reasonable to say "initial commit of UI"
[00:09] <Wafficus> since this is isn't like patch specific
[00:09] <Wafficus> ok will do
[00:10] <wxl> we don't need to worry about packaging until we do XD
[00:10] <Wafficus> it keeps saying "Aborting commit due to empty commit message"
[00:10] <Wafficus> it opens up VIM
[00:10] <wxl> well duh
[00:10] <wxl> you need a commit *message*
[00:10] <wxl> i thought yuo said you used github XD
[00:11] <Wafficus> and then I just placed # Initial commit for UI
[00:11] <Wafficus> well
[00:11] <Wafficus> I use Github in the most noob way possible
[00:11] <Wafficus> like I prefer the GUI to just upload stuff and be done with it
[00:11] <wxl> don't prepend a # because that ignores what's after it
[00:11] <Wafficus> for some reason it gets complicated for me real quick, idk
[00:11] <wxl> ewwwwwwwwwww git UI
[00:11] <Wafficus> ah gotcha
[00:11] <Wafficus> well
[00:11] <wxl> that's worse than IRC on a UI
[00:11] <Wafficus> maybe I'm too much late 90s kid
[00:11] <Wafficus> TRUE that
[00:11] <Wafficus> i will agree
[00:11] <wxl> mmmmmm
[00:11] <wxl> maybe too much windows
[00:12] <Wafficus> but the concept of uploading files seems like a ftp server to me
[00:12] <Wafficus> just drag and drop lol
[00:12] <wxl> but that's not what git is
[00:12] <Wafficus> anyway I'll take out the comment and try that
[00:12] <wxl> it's not uploading files AT ALL
[00:12] <Wafficus> see this is why I'm still a noob at it tbh
 ❤️
[00:12] <Wafficus> I understandt hat the git concept was Linus's idea though
[00:12] <Wafficus> to work on related kernel projects
[00:12] <wxl> version control wasn't
[00:13] <wxl> ultimately git has become the predominant tool for version control
 I don't know why I posted a heart...
[00:13] <wxl> and though purists will argue, there's very little difference between them
[00:13] <Wafficus> I tried git push
[00:13] <Wafficus> and it said requested URL returned error: 403
[00:13] <Wafficus> the commit did work though
[00:13] <wxl> ah
[00:13] <wxl> you used the https remote
[00:13] <wxl> that's the problems
[00:13] <Wafficus> ah I see
[00:13] <wxl> do `git remote remove origin`
[00:14] <Wafficus> is there any way I can add the https prefix to that part of the CLI?
[00:14] <Wafficus> ok i'll try that
[00:14] <wxl> then `git remote add origin whatever-the-ssh+git-uri-is`
[00:14] <Wafficus> ok i did that
[00:14] <wxl> then git push
[00:14] <Wafficus> gotcha i'll look that up on Phabricator now
[00:14] <Wafficus> thanks
 @TheWendyPower [I don't know why I posted a heart...], We all love git, it is ok.
 @kc2bez I jumped back into this thread and there a a beautiful ❤️... And I don't remember doing that. But git awesome arc is nicer 😊
[00:16] <Wafficus> haha lol
[00:16] <Wafficus> got it: ssh://git@phab.lubuntu.me:2222/source/lubuntu-welcome-center.git
[00:17] <Wafficus> "fatal: The current branch master has no upstream branch. To push the current branch and set the remote as upstream, use git push --set-upstream origin master
[00:18] <wxl> follow the instructions
[00:18] <Wafficus> I did:
[00:18] <Wafficus> git remote add origin ssh://git@phab.lubuntu.me:2222/source/lubuntu-welcome-center.git
[00:18] <Wafficus> permission denied public key
[00:18] <Wafficus> weird
[00:18] <Wafficus> I just did: git push --set-upstream origin master
[00:18] <wxl> you probably don't have your ssh config set up correctly
[00:19] <Wafficus> the key on this comp is the same on phabricator and even on my own webhosting site too
[00:19] <Wafficus> dang
[00:19] <wxl> have something like the following in your ~/.ssh/config:
[00:19] <wxl> Host phab.lubuntu.me
[00:19] <wxl>   User git
[00:19] <Wafficus> it saying that: Permissions 0664 for 'home/sam/.ssh/id_rsa' are too open
[00:19] <wxl>   Port 2222
[00:19] <Wafficus> ok i'll look there
[00:19] <wxl>   IdentityFile /path/to/your/key
[00:19] <wxl> ok well that's a problem too
[00:20] <Wafficus> I'm in ~/.ssh but there's no config directory
[00:20] <Wafficus> I just have the "id_rsa" file and "known_hosts"
[00:20] <wxl> it's a file not a directory; create it if it's not there
[00:20] <wxl> oh
[00:21] <wxl> well
[00:21] <wxl> i guess that's the other thing
[00:21] <wxl> if you have id_rsa you proabbly don't need it
[00:21] <Wafficus> i'm screwed :/
[00:21] <wxl> the issue is likely the permissions
[00:21] <wxl> chmod 600 ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[00:22] <Wafficus> ok I did that
[00:22] <Wafficus> gonna go back in that git folder and try git push again
[00:22] <wxl> now `git push --set-upstream origin master`
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[00:23] <Wafficus> ok looks good
[00:23] <wxl> ^ you did it
[00:23] <Wafficus> sick :)
[00:23] <Wafficus> thanks man
[00:23] <wxl> np
[00:23] <wxl> thank you
[00:23] <Wafficus> weird question, but could you update the "how to" for new idiots like me with that
[00:23] <Wafficus> like its just a basic gui, and obviously buttons need to be made
[00:24] <wxl> hm?
[00:24] <Wafficus> I just literally brainstormed what i thought a user would want and just made buttons flush from top to bottom
[00:25] <Wafficus> for the Welcome Center
[00:25] <Wafficus> a news section, a submit bug button, look for icons / themes, etc
[00:25] <Wafficus> you'll see
[00:25] <Wafficus> I had to use a template from qtcreator as well
[00:25] <Wafficus> since I've been following the qt docs guide for beginners
[00:26] <wxl> i mean we don't have a how to at all
[00:26] <wxl> any more than we have a how to on how to use python
[00:29] <Steedalion> Does anyone have a guide on the arc, phab stuff? 
[00:30] <Wafficus> wxl: well, more or less that contribution guide. just to include those git command ideas would be great
[00:30] <Wafficus> wxl: Either way, I'm gonna continue that qt guide for today
[00:30] <wxl> yeah well that's not something most people should have to do
[00:31] <Wafficus> wxl: you never know though, I see what you're saying, but just in case they wanna do dev stuff, make it easy you know
[00:31] <wxl> Steedalion: basically you git clone the repo using the urls on phabricator, do normal git stuff, instead of pushing, you arc diff. see the packaging tutorial
[00:32] <kc2bez> https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging-tutorial/
[00:32] <Wafficus> @TheWendyPower let me know what you think of that basic GUI i did. The buttons don't function yet, but I wanted the team's input of what should be even on that welcome screen
[00:32] <Wafficus> wxl: aha, so the packaging tutorial is the newbie section
[00:32] <Wafficus> that's what I was saying
[00:32] <Wafficus> even just to include it there would be great
[00:32] <wxl> it's the second for PACKAGING
[00:33] <wxl> not necessarily for writing brand new code which we do very little of
[00:33] <wxl> s/second/section/
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[00:35] <Steedalion> @wxl, wiki/packaging tutorial. Got it!
[00:35] <lynorian> That is for setting up arc which I still need to get in the manual 
[00:35] <lynorian> I have the command to clone 
[00:38] <Wafficus> gotcha
 @Wafficus I'll take a look when I get the computer back from my husband. During the research phase, one thing I want to put on/in the welcome is the ability to set up multiple monitors.
[00:42] <wxl[m]> Steedalion: not all of that is necessary. We need to rewrite that for manual contributions
[00:42] <Steedalion> Can I install arcanist using apt-get?
[00:43] <wxl[m]> Steedalion: supposedly @TheWendyPower is working on a video
[00:44] <wxl[m]> Steedalion: yes you can but I've only ever followed the instructions given so I'm not sure if that might not be problematic in some way
[00:45] <Steedalion> Yeah I am just lazy. I just hope it's not too old and going to cause issues. I'll test apt-get version and change if it gives problems.
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[00:46] <Steedalion> so do I just git add remote PHAB,  git pull PHAB, arc diff ?
[00:47] <lynorian> I haven't had problems with the manual for the repos version of phab
 @wxl @Steedalion I am making a video, my house has been loud with sick coughing kids.
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[01:04] <Steedalion> It's chilled. I the guide is good.
[01:04] <Steedalion> Do I need quilt for Docs?
 @TheWendyPower good idea about multiple monitors. Nice.
[01:11] <lynorian> Steedalion: no
 @Wafficus It would be super handy to get some of the "first thing" configurations out of the way at the welcome screen. Like, thanks for installing Lubuntu. Let's get some of this configuration crap out of the way!
 True
 I forgot about that tbh
 I thought about it more like a hub for other issues to check in on
 I forgot that it would be a section after install
 I thought of it akin to the updating packages section
 Good to clarify it
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[01:17] <Steedalion> @lynorian Okay so the guide is good. Got through it with no sweat. After you submit a commit for review, do you have to  merge it or does that happen automatically?
[01:18] <lynorian> I can merge it yeah if it is on phab
[01:18] <lynorian> yeah
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[01:24] <Steedalion> Okay @lynorian, I'm just testing. I did push but it requires review. How do I set reviewers?
[01:25] <lynorian> I can see that Steedalion
[01:26] <Steedalion> Okay, so that's how I'll do it from now on. @lynorian, did I forget anything?
[01:28] <Steedalion> Okay so the Phabricator is like social media git? 
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[01:31] <teward> it's a software development collaboration suite.  :P
[01:31] <teward> git is a minor piece of that ;)
 @Wafficus ya, the welcome center will be the first thing users see on the first boot.
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 Ok, tried this in a clean install and worked
 Someone knows why lxqt is grabbing info from a file called .config/kdeglobals ???
 Welcome @TimApple!
 Good to have you here
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[05:29] <Steedalion> @lynorian arc diff'd
[05:29] <lynorian> ok
[05:35] <lynorian> nice screenshots
[05:37] <Steedalion> I hope I didn't over do it. It's just that chapter 1 is the install and I don't want to make it too intimidating for newbies.
[05:37] <Steedalion> @lynorian what do you think about adding an appendix for keyboard shortcuts?
[05:37] <lynorian> Steedalion: I have been thinking about that myself a bit but have not done it
[05:38] <lynorian> probably a good idea
[05:38] <Steedalion> I am hoping we can parse the .xml files and automate the process.
[05:39] <Steedalion> It may be too many commands to do by hand.
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[05:50] <lynorian> well some of them are in the screenshot I added of shortcut keys
[05:51] <lynorian> but for all applications yeah that would take a while
[06:03] <Steedalion> @lynorian, I was thinking we should rename some of the applications also. For example, there is no benifit in calling transmission Qtransmission, but it should be Transmission in Documentation and Application menu. So the change needs to happen in the default settings too.
[06:18] <lynorian> Steedalion: yeah espically for someone like my mom to understand
[06:43] <Steedalion> lol
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 @HMollerCl I was able to set my Qt theme to Breeze Dark using your pasted kdeglobals file.
 @TheWendyPower Let me know what you think of the basic design so far. It's just a window that's 800 x 600 with buttons present. I'll include your idea to also have a change desktop resolution / monitor settings too
 I was just getting back to my computer. I'll take a look!
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 @lbssousa [<reply to image>], Welcome!
 @tsimonq2 [Welcome!], Thanks!
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 wxl: ^ agaida has spoken XD
 He's like
 (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/GgX0Fq9z/file_4369.mp4
 A note for the newbies, don't take agaida personally :)
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[15:56] <wxl[m]> ^ and that's where he gets fish slapped
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 @tsimonq2 [A note for the newbies, don't take agaida personally :)], he's from melmac?
[16:08] <wxl[m]> Naboo
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 Now we get to make fun of him for his small screen. XD
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[16:39] <wxl> @kc2bez yeah agaida has a tendency to look for opportunities to be a sardonic naysayer
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[22:39] <qwebirc83150> I've been trying to create a LVM install of Lubuntu 18.10 with LUKS. I'm trying to get full disk encryption but I don't know if I can do it with the GUI installer.
[22:39] <wxl> not with efi but otherwise yes qwebirc83150 
[22:40] <qwebirc83150> So, it won't work with EFI enabled?
[22:40] <wxl> correct
[22:40] <wxl> @tsimonq2 theoretically has some workaround to the problem but hasn't shared it with us yet :)
[22:40] <qwebirc83150> Is there a bug for that or is that just a limitation?
[22:41] <qwebirc83150> Gotcha
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2 theoretically has some workaround to the problem but hasn't shar …], No I don't XD
 Bad wxl is bad
[22:41] <wxl> oh well, i guess anyone who wants to do encryption and efi is screwed
 For now
 I'll figure it out
[22:42] <wxl> that's what we should do.. and provide some reasonable workaround
 But that isn't there yet. And I haven't had the time between mountains of homework and work to get back on my feet. :P
 Why can't you do it wxl? XD
[22:43] <wxl> because i don't know what the problem is. 
 You have an EFI machine, right?
[22:43] <wxl> irrelevant
 Reproduce the problem and then try to fix it.
 Once you have a fix, standardize it.
[22:44] <wxl> yeah gee thanks
 If I get hit by a bus tomorrow you're gonna have to figure it out either way so XS
 *XD
 Anyway, yeah, I don't know the solution yet.
 I want to, but I don't unfortunately.
 I could have sworn it did work at one point though.
[22:44] <qwebirc83150> Gotcha
[22:44] <wxl> that should something we work to solve immediately
[22:45] <qwebirc83150> Is there a bug for that somewhere or would the calamares folk be the target contact for that?
 Don't contact them, we'd be the target.
[22:48] <qwebirc83150> Where should I check for updates on the issue then?
 We'll update the release notes.
[22:49] <qwebirc83150> Gotcha
[23:35] <thatrandomguy> I just want to double check on the EFI and LUKS conflict thing... this is not related to calamares, correct? Additionaly, is there a way to install Lubuntu via terminal?
[23:41] <lynorian> thatrandomguy: Does sever install with efi and luks correctly ?
[23:41] <lynorian> if so you can then install the lubuntu-desktop metapackage
[23:41] <lynorian> but that would only work for amd64 as no i386 server for 18.10
[23:43] <thatrandomguy> I haven't tried it yet. I was on earlier and Simon said it was a known issue dealing with EFI. What I wasn't sure of is if it was something wrong with Calamares or....
[23:44] <lynorian> thatrandomguy: it did affect ubiquity too and they had a hacky workaround our team did not find out about is what I heard 
[23:44] <lynorian> thatrandomguy: a lot of the efi problems seem to be with grub
[23:44] <thatrandomguy> Gotcha
[23:45] <thatrandomguy> Would you happen to know if there's a bug out there for this somewhere?
[23:46] <lynorian> I don't know the number 
[23:47] <thatrandomguy> Gotcha. As long as it's out there, I can search for it. Thank-you.