[00:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kmod (cosmic-proposed/main) [25-1ubuntu1 => 25-1ubuntu1.1] (core)
[00:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted breeze [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[00:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kmod (bionic-proposed/main) [24-1ubuntu3 => 24-1ubuntu3.1] (core)
[00:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted bluedevil [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[00:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: kmod (xenial-proposed/main) [22-1ubuntu5 => 22-1ubuntu5.1] (core)
[00:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted breeze-gtk [source] (bionic-proposed) [5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[00:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted drkonqi [source] (bionic-proposed) [5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[00:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kactivitymanagerd [source] (bionic-proposed) [5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[00:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kde-cli-tools [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[00:39] <mwhudson> RAOF: not sure if this makes you a saviour or a sucker
[00:40] <RAOF> Hey, I never said I'd accept them out of -proposed :P
[00:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kdeplasma-addons [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[00:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted khotkeys [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[00:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kinfocenter [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[00:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected kmenuedit [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[00:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kscreen [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[00:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kscreenlocker [source] (bionic-proposed) [5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[00:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ksysguard [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[01:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kwallet-pam [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[01:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted kwin [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[01:23] <RAOF> There are so many kde packages…
[01:25] <RAOF> …and some of them literally only change the version in CMakeLists.txt?
[01:25] <teward> RAOF: welcome to KDE, population 5000000 inter-related and interdependent packages :P
[01:25] <teward> and the tiniest change messes with EVERYTHING :P
[01:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected libkscreen [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[01:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libksysguard [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[01:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted milou [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[01:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted oxygen [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[01:37] <mwhudson> i have wondered why there is not one enormous source package before now
[01:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected plasma-desktop [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[01:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted plasma-discover [source] (bionic-proposed) [5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[01:54] <valorie> mwhudson: would that be preferable?
[01:54] <mwhudson> i don't know tbh
[01:55] <valorie> because our devels want to upload packages that *will* be accepted
[01:56] <valorie> and it would have been great to have them in 18.10 of course
[01:56] <valorie> we always got slammed for kde-libs that was a big ball
[01:56] <valorie> so the devels spent over a year as I recall splitting them out
[02:05] <RAOF> It's reasonable to have a whole bunch.
[02:05] <RAOF> It's somewhat less reasonable to have some which are literal no-change rebuilds except for changing the version number in CMakeLists.
[02:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted plasma-integration [source] (bionic-proposed) [5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[02:08]  * RAOF also questions the value of uploading a package for which the changes are “<commit: Foo>” followed by “Revert: <commit: Foo>” ☺
[02:09] <valorie> well, acheronuk should be here for this bit of the conversation
[02:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted plasma-nm [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[02:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted plasma-pa [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[02:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted plasma-sdk [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[02:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted plasma-vault [source] (bionic-proposed) [5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[02:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted plasma-workspace [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[02:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted plymouth-kcm [source] (bionic-proposed) [5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[02:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted polkit-kde-agent-1 [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[02:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted powerdevil [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
 we always got slammed for kde-libs that was a big ball
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[02:44] <mwhudson> heh oh well you can't win i guess
[02:44] <mwhudson> ignore me :)
[02:51] <valorie> well, slammed by users because pretty much every KDE package needed kde-libs
[02:51] <valorie> now users only need the libs that the application actually needs
[02:52] <valorie> but yeah, hard to win when we have a huge bunch of software to package and upload
[02:54]  * RAOF looks sideways at some translation updates that appear to be replacing a translated string with English.
[02:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sddm-kcm [source] (bionic-proposed) [4:5.12.7-0ubuntu0.1]
[02:55] <valorie> that doesn't sound right!
[03:05] <RAOF> It's possible that the existing translation is just plain wrong, and English would be an improvement…
[03:06] <valorie> true
[03:07] <RAOF> Hm.
[03:07] <RAOF> It seems that for a couple of the packages quite a lot of Indonesian strings have been replaced with English.
[03:09] <RAOF> acheronuk: It looks like a bunch of the KDE packages in bionic-unapproved have translation changes which replace Indonesian strings with English, and at least some of them look to me with my very old, highschool Indonesian to have been vaguely right translations.
[03:10] <RAOF> acheronuk: I'll stop processing those packages untill I've got confirmation that's expected.
[03:10] <RAOF> (Also I'll have a rather late lunch)
[07:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: docker.io (xenial-proposed/universe) [17.03.2-0ubuntu2~16.04.1 => 18.06.1-0ubuntu1~16.04.1] (no packageset)
[09:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: libssh (cosmic-proposed/main) [0.8.1-1ubuntu0.1 => 0.8.1-1ubuntu0.2] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[09:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/main) [4.18.0-11.12] (core, kernel)
[09:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [ppc64el] (cosmic-proposed/main) [4.18.0-11.12] (core, kernel)
[10:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-39.42] (core, kernel)
[10:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-39.42] (core, kernel)
[12:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-39.42]
[12:55] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-39.42]
[12:57] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: figtree (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.4.3+dfsg-5 => 1.4.3+dfsg-5ubuntu0.1] (no packageset)
[13:18] <oSoMoN> can an AA please delete chromium-browser 70.0.3538.67-0ubuntu1 from cosmic-proposed? version 70.0.3538.67-0ubuntu0.18.10.1, which is effectively the same, was already published to cosmic-updates and cosmic-security
[13:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: backuppc (trusty-proposed/main) [3.3.0-1ubuntu1 => 3.3.0-1ubuntu1.1] (core)
[13:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: breeze (cosmic-proposed/universe) [4:5.13.5-0ubuntu2.1 => 4:5.13.5-0ubuntu2.2] (kubuntu)
[13:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: backuppc (xenial-proposed/main) [3.3.1-2ubuntu3.3 => 3.3.1-2ubuntu3.4] (core)
[13:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python3-stdlib-extensions [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.6.7-1~18.10]
[13:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted python3-stdlib-extensions [source] (bionic-proposed) [3.6.7-1~18.04]
[14:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (cosmic-proposed) [4.18.0-11.12]
[14:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [ppc64el] (cosmic-proposed) [4.18.0-11.12]
[14:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: samba (bionic-proposed/main) [2:4.7.6+dfsg~ubuntu-0ubuntu2.2 => 2:4.7.6+dfsg~ubuntu-0ubuntu2.3] (core)
[16:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-hwe (cosmic-proposed/multiverse) [5.2.20-dfsg-1ubuntu18.10.1 => 5.2.20-dfsg-2ubuntu18.10.1] (no packageset)
[16:29] <oSoMoN> sil2100, can you help with my earlier request to delete chromium-browser 70.0.3538.67-0ubuntu1 from cosmic-proposed?
[16:31] <sil2100> oSoMoN: hey!
[16:31] <sil2100> Ah, I see the rationale
[16:31] <sil2100> Sure
[16:33] <sil2100> oSoMoN: done
[16:36] <oSoMoN> sil2100, thanks a bunch!
[16:44] <sil2100> yw!
[16:56] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure [amd64] (cosmic-proposed/main) [4.18.0-1004.4] (kernel)
[17:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted update-manager [source] (xenial-proposed) [1:16.04.15]
[17:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python3-defaults (cosmic-proposed/main) [3.6.6-1 => 3.6.7-1~18.04] (core)
[17:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python3-defaults (cosmic-proposed/main) [3.6.6-1 => 3.6.7-1~18.10] (core)
[17:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected python3-defaults [source] (cosmic-proposed) [3.6.7-1~18.04]
[17:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: python3-defaults (bionic-proposed/main) [3.6.5-3ubuntu1 => 3.6.7-1~18.04] (core)
[18:12] <vorlon> anyone know why bionic images are failing to build due to failure to resolve ubuntu-image dep of livecd-rootfs?
[18:12] <vorlon> (I can't reproduce this problem locally)
[18:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-hwe (cosmic-proposed/multiverse) [5.2.20-dfsg-1ubuntu18.10.1 => 5.2.20-dfsg-2ubuntu18.10.1] (no packageset)
[18:27] <xnox> vorlon, log?
[18:28] <vorlon> xnox: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/bionic/lubuntu/+build/148328
[18:29] <xnox> vorlon, i seem to be able to reproduce this in a bionic chroot.
[18:29] <xnox> vorlon, sed 's/restricted universe multiverse//' -i /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:30] <xnox> vorlon, apt update; apt install ubuntu-image
[18:30] <vorlon> xnox: did that too already
[18:31] <vorlon> wfm
[18:31] <vorlon> did it fail for you?
[18:31] <xnox> yes
[18:31] <xnox> vorlon, which mirror are you using?
[18:31] <xnox> vorlon, and is it related to an unreleased sru that doko mentioned this morning?!
[18:31] <vorlon> oh, I didn't enable -proposed
[18:32]  * sil2100 didn't break anything
[18:32] <sil2100> Just saying
[18:33] <vorlon> xnox: still can't trigger the failure here, with the roadmap sprint's proxy
[18:33] <xnox> vorlon, ssh somewhere useful.
[18:34] <vorlon> xnox: pastebin me
[18:36] <xnox> vorlon, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3N2BqGBPqs/ somehow new python3 from updates is not installable, or something?!
[18:36] <vorlon> ok
[18:36] <xnox> vorlon, is lubuntu with or without proposed?
[18:36] <vorlon> xnox: all with -proposed currently
[18:36] <vorlon> except when we're in milestone prep
[18:37] <xnox> vorlon, i declare python3-defaults have not been updated for the python point release.
[18:37] <vorlon> ok
[18:38] <vorlon> so this is doko's bug?
[18:38] <xnox> vorlon, or python3-distutils and python3-lib2to3 should have lower deps.
[18:38] <xnox> vorlon, probably
[18:39] <xnox> vorlon, shouldn't like britney be telling us these things?
[18:40] <vorlon> xnox: you mean like http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/bionic/update_excuses.html#python3-stdlib ?
[18:40] <vorlon> sorry, you mean like http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/bionic/update_excuses.html#python3-stdlib-extensions ?
[18:43] <xnox> vorlon, yes =)
[18:43] <xnox> vorlon, doko, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3-stdlib-extensions/+bug/1799764
[19:19] <xnox> vorlon, does germinate know how to use -updates pocket?
[19:27] <xnox> vorlon, nevermind, it does, found it.
[19:51] <xnox> vorlon, infinity - were there ever plans to make debootstrap support our "pockets"?
[19:51] <xnox> and use them, when doing debootstrap similar to how it can deal with components?
[19:58] <jbicha> xnox: are you familiar with sbuild-launchpad-chroot? those scripts may already sort of offer what you want (depending on what it is you are trying to do)
[19:59] <xnox> jbicha, hhhmmm let me look.
[20:00] <xnox> jbicha, nope no good.
[20:00] <xnox> jbicha, this is for germinate.
[20:00] <jbicha> well it's got an alias thing
[20:00] <jbicha> oh, this is for schroot
[20:01] <xnox> jbicha, germinate -> deboostrap, is my code path atm =) nothing to do with schroot/sbuild/etc.
[20:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tzdata (bionic-proposed/main) [2018e-0ubuntu0.18.04 => 2018f-0ubuntu0.18.04] (core)
[20:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tzdata (trusty-proposed/main) [2018e-0ubuntu0.14.04 => 2018f-0ubuntu0.14.04] (core)
[20:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tzdata (cosmic-proposed/main) [2018e-1 => 2018f-0ubuntu0.18.10] (core)
[20:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: tzdata (xenial-proposed/main) [2018e-0ubuntu0.16.04 => 2018f-0ubuntu0.16.04] (core)
[20:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted tzdata [source] (cosmic-proposed) [2018f-0ubuntu0.18.10]
[20:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted tzdata [source] (bionic-proposed) [2018f-0ubuntu0.18.04]
[20:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted tzdata [source] (xenial-proposed) [2018f-0ubuntu0.16.04]
[20:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted tzdata [source] (trusty-proposed) [2018f-0ubuntu0.14.04]
[20:43] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cinder (cosmic-proposed/main) [2:13.0.0-0ubuntu3 => 2:13.0.0-0ubuntu4] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[20:46] <doko> vorlon, xnox: it's in unapproved
[21:08] <acheronuk> RAOF: yes, those translations in plasma have gone. a deliberate decision by the l10n maintainer for that language it seems.
[21:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: virtualbox-hwe (cosmic-proposed/multiverse) [5.2.20-dfsg-1ubuntu18.10.1 => 5.2.20-dfsg-3ubuntu18.10.1] (no packageset)
[21:43] <acheronuk> RAOF: I also went through the plasma tars and weeded out any that were just version bumps. hence why there are 33 (ish) rather than 44, which is the full plasma compliment
[21:45] <acheronuk> valorie: ^^^
[21:45] <valorie> <3
[21:46] <valorie> you rock, sir
[21:52] <acheronuk> 20 contained a bugfix or other code change
[21:52] <RAOF> acheronuk: ah, ok. Thanks. You missed one version bump only, but that's ok 😀
[21:54] <valorie> thanks for your work, RAOF
[21:55] <acheronuk> RAOF: could have been one which is required by an internal dep of another to be bumped. there are one or 2 in the plasma stack which do that
[21:55] <acheronuk> but ye, thank you :)
[21:57] <acheronuk> or could have been brain fade reviewing diffs of 44 tars ;)
[22:02] <acheronuk> RAOF: you may also be relieved that 5.12.8 is not due until March 2019 https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5
[22:02] <acheronuk> I am!
[23:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1024.25] (kernel)