[00:02] hey does anyone know if there's a way to install ubuntu phone on the lg v20? [00:03] Is there any way to do fractional scaling on a 4K display? Say like 125%, 150%? [00:03] 200% is too big, 100% is too small IMO [00:03] may i request assistance on how to transition to wicd.. already installed it.but cant get it to work.im currently connected using default network manager [00:04] wicd says bad password..but im sure its correct [00:04] the wayland version of buntu had options like that [00:07] i have a dirt-cheap 16.04 VPS that occasionally will just completely stall for like 1-2 minutes at a time. i assume thats just a matter of 'get what you pay for' and they have too many virtual servers on each machine. but anything i should look for OS-wise to potentially speed it up? [00:29] any idea why running $ ping google.com, ping: socket: Operation not permitted doens't appear to work for me? [00:29] caffenicohol: This isn't the right channel for mobile devices... Ubuntu is no longer building a version for mobile devices at this time [00:29] !phone | caffenicohol [00:29] caffenicohol: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch [00:30] pragmaticenigma, I didn't think so but i was told a couple days ago that some people are still porting it. Any recommendations for channels where i can find alternative Oses? [00:30] Thete: i dont know but try with xrandr (command line) [00:30] caffenicohol: see what ubottu posted [00:31] ah ok missed the last part, thank you [00:31] yelowfish: i never used wicd so i'm afraid i can't help. why not use network manager? [00:31] apparently you have to be invited to get into that channel [00:31] tomreyn, having wifi issues.read that using wicd will fix it [00:32] Nelluk: No, the only options you have is report the issues to your VPS vendor [00:32] !register | caffenicohol not invited, but registered: [00:32] caffenicohol not invited, but registered:: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode. [00:33] yelowfish: which chipset + driver? [00:33] caffenicohol: That happens if you are already in the channel [00:34] yelowfish: i've often seen the claim that 'wicd will fix it', but i've never seen any good reasoning why it would. it doesn't magically change chipset, drivers or firmware. [00:34] I wasn't it just said kicked invite only channel but now when i joined it went to ubports instead so I don't know what happened [00:34] caffenicohol: #ubports is the official channel of the community that is working on linux on mobile devices [00:34] tomreyn, got usb 2 adapters, realtek : r8712u & ath9k_htc , currently on atheros : ath9k_htc === Dreaman is now known as BgLamersTeam [00:35] edit: got 2 pieces of usb wifi adapters [00:36] yelowfish: when reading forums and other articles... when you see "will fix it" without any explination on how or why, it's someone that doesn't know what they are doing and the fixing part may have been a side effect of their actions, not the solution [00:36] pragmaticenigma, noted [00:37] i guess i have to stick with the default then :( [00:37] yelowfish: which ubuntu version + kernel? lsb_release -ds && cat /proc/version [00:37] Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS [00:37] Linux version 4.15.0-38-generic (buildd@lcy01-amd64-023) (gcc version 5.4.0 20160609 (Ubuntu 5.4.0-6ubuntu1~16.04.10)) #41~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 10 20:16:04 UTC 2018 [00:38] yelowfish: ok. abive you listed wireless modules but not the chipsets. which chipsets do you have there? [00:39] sudo update-pciids; sudo update-usbids; pastebinit <( lsusb; lspci -nn;) [00:41] is this the command? sudo lshw -C network > product ? [00:42] yelowfish: i'm not sure whether lshw would print it in the right format. i posted a series of commands above. [00:42] i see.1 moment [00:43] lshw does not print vendor / device id's in this format, [00:44] tomreyn, pastebinit <( lsusb; lspci -nn --> no output,did i get it right? [00:44] yelowfish: your command is cut off [00:44] or should i use them at once at the same time? [00:45] yelowfish: yo can post the full line to the temrinal [00:45] this would also work: sudo lshw -C network -numeric | pastebinit [00:45] !pastebinit | yelowfish in case you dont have pastebinit installed, yet [00:45] yelowfish in case you dont have pastebinit installed, yet: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit [00:47] just installed pastebinit. it wont hurt if i try it again the 3rd time? [00:48] yelowfish: doesnt hurt [00:48] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tWwYwmW7Bq/ [00:53] yelowfish: so we'Re talking abotu this: Wireless: Qualcomm Atheros Communications AR9271 802.11n, [0cf3:9271] [00:53] thank you everyone.i appreciate the effort very much.this issue has been going for quite awhile [00:54] tomreyn, yes and the other realtek as well [00:54] the ethernet one? [00:54] its not connected,so it didt show up on the pastebin [00:55] its not connected * physically on the usb port,so it didt show up on the pastebin [00:56] yelowfish: oh, maybe connect it then and re-run the command (or part of it, i'll post it next) so we can look that one up as well? [00:57] k.brb [00:57] actually this will be fine: sudo lshw -C network -numeric | pastebinit [00:58] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FZVJN7GhnF/ [01:00] yelowfish: hmm that didnt work since it's not enabled, i guess. let's try the other command again: pastebinit <( lsusb; lspci -nn;) [01:01] k.brb [01:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sqSfG4xRjP/ [01:05] Wireless: Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter, [0bda:8171], modules: r8712u, firmware:? [01:09] yelowfish: can you run this: pastebinit <(echo '[ath9k_htc]';modinfo -p ath9k_htc;echo;echo '[r8712u]';modinfo -p r8712u;) === jiwang is now known as RNM [01:19] what did i miss ? [01:19] Wireless: Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter, [0bda:8171], modules: r8712u, firmware:? [01:19] yelowfish: can you run this: pastebinit <(echo '[ath9k_htc]';modinfo -p ath9k_htc;echo;echo '[r8712u]';modinfo -p r8712u;) [01:20] also please tell me for each of these chipsets what the issue is with them. [01:20] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mQS6hsTXW3/ [01:22] yelowfish: please type my name here to get my attention. [01:22] yelowfish: << like so [01:23] for both : i get no buffer space available during ping after a period of time connected... signal is very good but cant connect.. realtek was fast downloading,not its the atheros,ideally it should be the realtek coz its highpowered [01:23] tomreyn, noted [01:24] tomreyn, * realtek was fast downloading,but noW its the atheros [01:25] yelowfish: both devices / chipsets report the very same error message? [01:25] tomreyn, they dont autoconnect, even when there is a good signal [01:26] i see, so network manager shows them as not connected, right? [01:26] or does it show them as connected but no data flows? [01:26] tomreyn, error msg during ping is : no buffer space available,even when i set the buffer to ulimit -s 10240 [01:26] "ping: sendmsg: No buffer space available" seems to be the actual error message [01:27] yes thats d actual ayt [01:27] sometimes : does it show them as connected but no data flows [01:29] yes,when i try to connect,it always ask for the password,then i type it.then it ask again,until i just unplug/plug,restart net mngr. or even reboot :network manager shows them as not connected [01:30] ulimit -s sets the maximum stack size processes may allocate, that's not what you want to change there. [01:30] usually i just replug,but lately its not working as well : ping: sendmsg: No buffer space available [01:31] do you usually power your computer off when you leave it for longer, or just suspend? [01:32] leave it open + screensaver [01:33] so it never goes into suspend? [01:33] never [01:33] what's your uptime now? run: uptime [01:34] i just opened it this morning.coz lastnight cannot connect [01:34] 09:34:22 up 3:22, 1 user, load average: 1.30, 1.06, 1.40 [01:35] ok [01:36] brb [01:38] "ping: sendmsg: No buffer space available" is usually symptomatic for a driver, firmware or hardware bug. https://askubuntu.com/questions/210451/what-does-ping-sendmsg-no-buffer-space-available-mean [01:39] you can run "cat /proc/sys/net/core/wmem_max" to get the current 'receive socket memory' allocation which this message claims is too low. but this message is probably a red herring. === BgLamersTeam is now known as Dreaman [01:42] Is there a command to compare two strings for equality? [01:42] (e.g. for checking md5sum with what's on a webpage) [01:43] yelowfish: ony my ubuntu 18.04 system it's set to 212992 which is, i think, 208 kilobytes. the value given in the askubuntu post, 83886080, would be 80 megabytes, so a LOT more. maybe try something in between instead, like 6 MB=6291456 [01:44] sappheiros: you can write them to a file and run cmp or diff on them [01:45] alternatively, 'test' can do string comparison [01:45] also numeric comparinon [01:45] *comparison [01:45] tomreyn, back.. already read this : symptomatic for a driver, firmware or hardware bug .. hardware replacement is my last option,i need to exhaust the fix for driver and firmware [01:46] tomreyn, okay, thank you. i will try 'man cmp' and 'man diff' to learn more [01:46] yelowfish: i don't understand why you mean by "i need to exhaust the fix for driver and firmware" [01:47] cat /proc/sys/net/core/wmem_max gave: 212992 ,, how can i set it to 6mb? [01:48] rephrase: i must use all possible solutions for drivers and firmware,before i get a 3rd wifi adapter i meani need to exhaust the fix for driver and firmware [01:49] Is there documentation for how the installer makes the bootloader propmt for luks-passphrases on boot? [01:49] If I encrypt root & /home (seperate drives) when I install, the bootloader propmts for the unlock key. If I just manually encrypt a new drive for /home, it doesn't, and has to be manually unlocked/mounted. [01:49] :/ [01:50] tomreyn, rephrase: i must use all possible solutions for drivers and firmware,before i get a 3rd wifi adapter i mean -- i need to exhaust the fix for driver and firmware [01:51] sappheiros: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bCTvZCmNCG/ [01:51] yelowfish: i understand now, thanks- [01:52] yelowfish: echo 6291456 |sudo tee /proc/sys/net/core/wmem_max [01:53] yelowfish: this will only apply until next reboot. [01:53] is it also permanent? [01:54] yelowfish: you can set and view it with sysctl. Or by poking in the /proc/sys tree. To make it permentant, you make a file in /etc/sysctl.d/ [01:56] To get an idea of how many of these knobs you've got to play with, run sudo sysctl -a|wc -l [01:56] Every one of those 900 or so lines counted is a tunable. [01:56] kyle__, that i need to research [01:56] * kyle__ nods nods nods [01:56] to make it permanent you'd need to: echo 'net.core.wmem_max = 6291456' |sudo tee /etc/sysctl.d/20-net_core.conf [01:57] It really pays off to read up on them, and to learn what they do. Some you'll probably never need. Some will save your bacon :) [01:57] kyle__, agree [01:57] yelowfish: but be aware that this would apply to all sockets, so changing this is not really great since it will have side effects [01:58] tomreyn, ill just opt for temporary and see if it has an effect [02:00] anything else should i consider before buying another 1 ? [02:00] yelowfish: i suspect the effect will be that it will take longer, couting from a reboot, until the error first occurs, bhut it will still occur. [02:01] i see [02:02] yelowfish: while it's most likely that this is a result of a broken wireless nic (or firmware, or driver, but i guess not since i can't find a lot of reports about this error with these chipsets), it could also be the result of some other hardware defect, such as broken ram, mainboard etc. [02:02] so you could do a memory test at night so it doesn't really get in your way. [02:03] or you buy the new wireless dongle and if this fails the same way you'll know it's some other hardware (not a great way to learn this, i admit) [02:04] i also read if there is too many traffic in the router.i opted capping the download by using trickle,but ubuntu wont follow the settings of trickle [02:05] yelowfish: you could also check for a mainboard firmware (BIOS/UEFI) upgrade. you never know what they help with, but they usually fix things rather than break some, and if you haven't installed one for a long time then it's a good idea to do so since there are also important security patchesin there. [02:06] agree,the costliest is my last option : not a great way to learn this, i admit [02:06] trickle works on a single application only, not system wide. [02:06] you'd need to configure QOS for that. [02:06] (bandwidth shaping) [02:06] noted [02:07] before you make the systcl change permanent, try it temporarily with the high value. [02:07] will do [02:07] also delete all your profiles off netrwork manager and recreate them. [02:07] this can help with the issue where it's not automatically connecting [02:07] that i did alot already [02:08] use nmcli for this [02:08] not everything is exposed on the GUI [02:08] noted [02:09] and keep a terminal window open where oyu run "dmesg -w" === Dreaman is now known as BgLamersTeam [02:09] especially when you change things. this is where the kernel logs to [02:10] i wonder if i can combine this dmesg -w with the ping window [02:10] oh so you run ping yourself? [02:11] i was thinking this was something the driver would dump to syslog. [02:12] if you run ping yourself then these sysctl changes wont be useful, and the error message ping returns is just a result of the network connection failing. [02:12] i do ping google in the background.coz the radar wifi symbol in the unity bar is not reliable [02:13] so actually you have two very different wireless chisets which show the same erratic behaviour. in this case it's actually most likely that there is an issue with the other end. [02:13] the wireless access point. [02:14] hmm [02:15] the only way i can imagine that the hardware on your end is buggy then is a memory issue (so do run the memtest) or that your computer giot hit by a flash or other overvoltage while both chips were connected [02:16] i see.i include that in the list [02:16] if you have another computer, try cross-testing with it, i.e. connect the wireless dongles there instead, and connect to the same access point. see if you get the same symptoms [02:16] (maybe have a friend come over to your place and have them test) [02:17] what is the ideal when running memtest? ie: no applications running in the background? [02:17] you can also test on your computer with a different OS (*bsd, windows etc.), see if it's stable there [02:17] the idea with running memtest is to see whether you have broken memory chips. [02:17] dimms [02:18] they are where the socket buffers are written to. if they fail to store the data properly this would be a possible result. [02:18] ok [02:18] (but you would likely note other side effects, too, then) [02:19] still, the memtest is simple and cheap. [02:20] yelowfish: you just install the memtest86+ package and make sure the os-prober package is also installed and then reboot, hold left shift key down, which brings up the grub menu, and there the last option in 'advanced' should be the memtest. [02:23] should look roughly like this https://www.howtogeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/xsshot169.png.pagespeed.gp+jp+jw+pj+ws+js+rj+rp+rw+ri+cp+md.ic.paF5jeRgbM.png [02:26] will do [02:26] yelowfish: the memtest looks like this: https://raid6.com.au/~onlyjob/images/memtest_badRAM.jpg you should not have any red lines. keep it running until it says pass: 100% at the top right. [02:26] this will take many hours. [02:26] can i just start now and run it in the background [02:27] no, it's an operating system itself, you can only boot into it, and not run anything else. [02:27] ayt [02:28] i guess thats all for now [02:29] right, good luck there [02:30] btw,whats the command to see after a reboot to show the cause of a frozen system? [02:31] if linux was able to write something to disk before it froze, it's "less /var/log/syslog" [02:31] copy that [02:31] so your system freezes often? [02:32] not really [02:32] more like once a week? [02:32] im suspecting it coincides with the no buffer space.. [02:33] near to 1x a week [02:33] hmm okay that's way too often. [02:33] tsk tsk [02:33] suggests hardware issues indeed. [02:34] keep dmesg -w running, note down what looks like related errors. [02:34] and do the memtest [02:34] and check syslog after freezes. [02:35] ayt.when it freeze,i only hear the hdd.it seems very busy [02:35] you can also do this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging [02:35] noted [02:35] then it probably doesn'T freeze fully [02:36] you should shut it down using magic sysrq when this happens [02:36] !sysrq [02:36] In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [02:36] this increases your chances of finding useful info on syslog after reboot [02:36] when its frozen,it seems it still working,but its not responsive coz all the ram cpu etc has been utilize [02:36] + data loss is less likely [02:37] i usually use the alt prtscr reisub [02:37] maybe you just have a problem with a process which leaks memory there and fills up your ram, and then the system starts swapping and killing processes, including X === amosbird_ is now known as amosbird [02:40] does the altprtscr reisub method not harmful? coz i do a forcefck afterwards or no need for forcefck afterwards? [02:43] the s in reisub does a 'sync', it writes the disk write buffer to the disk, so everyyhting that should have been written has been written. if the file system is still dirty after this, then the dirty bit is still set on file systems that support the dirty bit (ext2, ext4, ext and most other journalling file systems, too) and if you have pass 1 + 2 set for these file systems in /etc/fstab they will be checked for errors automatically at boot [02:44] ayt.GTG.TYVM. :) [02:44] run "man fstab", scroll to the last screen page, and read up on "The sixth field (fs_passno)" to understand how this works. [02:45] unfortunately some ubuntu installers were not setting thises values correctly, so it's good to verify this. [02:45] noted [02:45] ttyl === capella|away is now known as capellasGore [04:54] How can I disable just one wireless adapter when I have two in my system? It seems that Ubuntu Linux 18 LTS has the button for turning one adapter off, but then it always turns both off. [05:15] What packages do i need to instal to use a (USB) tethered android phone for internet access? [05:17] Randolf: cant you disable one in bios? [05:26] genewitch: is this what you need? http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2016/04/create-wifi-hotspot-ubuntu-16-04-android-supported/ [05:29] Anyone know why an older wifi card in an old laptop won't turn on? rfkill list shows it is NOT soft blocked, but it IS hard blocked. However, the hardware function key to turn it on isn't working. [05:30] Maybe wrong drivers? [05:30] KdeKris: does it show a driver active? [05:30] KdeKris: sudo lshw -C network to check [05:30] Bad kernel module? [05:32] Shows wireless network as DISABLED, but the driver is rt2800pci and the correct product listed [05:32] KdeKris: wich kernel are you on mate? [05:33] KdeKris: ralink is pretty picky about kernel versions [05:34] 4.15.0-38-generic [05:34] Fresh install of Xubuntu 18.04 [05:34] gcc version 7.3.0-16ubuntu3 [05:34] sounds good KdeKris [05:35] KdeKris: did you notice any settings for your wifi in bios? [05:35] I looked for them yesterday, there aren't any. This is a Compaq Presario cq57...old stinkin laptop [05:36] wireless card is RT5390 if that helps [05:36] Hardware switch for wireless is the f12 key, and it toggles the soft lock in rfkill, but not the hard lock [05:37] KdeKris: you dont see any wifi switch at the side somewhere? [05:37] there isn't one other than the f12 key [05:38] ok [05:38] KdeKris: lets dig in your syslog [05:38] ok [05:38] KdeKris: can you from terminal: tail -f /var/log/syslog and disable wifi and enable again? [05:41] https://pastebin.com/U1z2AL6X [05:43] did you try unblocking it with rfkill [05:43] KdeKris: hmm i dont see relevant wifi errors yet there [05:43] I did, "rfkill unlock all". No affect [05:43] try sudo rfkill unblock wifi [05:44] https://pastebin.com/NpcBX257 I think I fat fingered the last syslog. Here's more accurate one. [05:44] Is there a free PDF editor that doesn't add watermarks or anything to docs? [05:45] Kyros, still no change [05:45] well that was my only idea [05:45] bed time for me, nn [05:45] KdeKris: repost the issue :P [05:46] It was a good idea. Maybe sleep will produce more.lol [05:47] Muimi, the laptop that I just installed xubuntu 18.04 on yesterday will not allow me to turn on wifi. rfkill list shows that it's hard blocked, but the hardware toggle key, only toggles the soft block state. I can't get the hard block off in order to connect to wifi. [05:48] oh. I had that problem, too. [05:48] I think I needed to do a hardware-specific solution. [05:49] hmm. Anyway, I'd keep asking because I got support here or at #linux [05:49] !pdf [05:49] The Portable Document Format is created by Adobe; PDF files are viewable in Ubuntu with Xpdf, Okular, Evince and also Adobe Reader (free download, but closed source) [05:50] lotuspsychje: my issue is resolevd. thank you. [05:50] is the "online accounts" working? I added my owncloud server to which it was happy to show me a green checkbox. the fan sped up and laptop running hot for 10 mins. I removed the account settings and rebooted. Is this normal? Do I give it more time? Anyone can assure me this is normal? [05:51] I upgraded from 14.04 to 18.04 . In nautilus typing a letter starts search (even without ctrl+f). Howto disable this? [05:51] to add. earlier i installed the desktop client for owncloud. and pointed to my old folder to wich has been resynced and happy [05:51] I want nautlus to search only when I do ctrl+f, not otherwise [05:52] kubuntu 18.04 [05:53] Muimi, sorry for the delay, Had to make coffee. I'm getting more and more confident that it's a hardware specific solution. Do you remember what you did? Or how long ago it was? If you remember the date, I'll just cruise through #linux logs and find it.lol [05:56] Oh, also, Muimi, idk if you need this feature or not, but Master PDF Editor is free and has the ability to digitally sign a pdf using a CAC. [05:56] It's not in the repos though, you'll have to download the .deb from their website. [05:58] KdeKris: i reccomend playing with kernels on ralink chipsets [05:59] Any suggestions where to start? [05:59] KdeKris: try some different kernels, share your full syslog [06:00] KdeKris: could be like another ubuntu version with an older kernel, or !mainline newer kernel [06:02] aniru: you can disable nautilus file indexing in system settings [06:03] full syslog is here https://pastebin.com/3K90W3Yk [06:03] I tried a few others like puppy, bodhi and linux lite, same issue on those as well [06:05] KdeKris: there are some latest githubs too with newer ralink drivers you culd test [06:06] I'll start at the drivers then. [06:06] I'd rather not do any kernel stuff if I don't have to. I mean, I can, I just don't want to.lol === capellasGore is now known as capellaOooOozes [06:45] lotuspsychje: I'll take a look at the BIOS. That's a great idea. It would be nice if I could just disable it from the OS though too. [06:45] Thanks. [06:49] why doesn't kernel.ubuntu.com have SSL [06:57] I think I have dependencies broken in my system... can anyone tell me how to solve this? https://www.hastebin.com/tuwexuzobu.bash [06:57] I forgot to say "please" :( [07:01] dbugger: Could you use https://paste.ubuntu.com/ ? [07:02] Kon-, sure. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5MQJG7FV3y/ === jiwang is now known as RNM [07:38] <[twisti]> when trying to uninstall old kernel stuff, i get this error: rmdir: failed to remove '/lib/modules/4.15.0-36-generic': Directory not empty [07:38] <[twisti]> what can i do about that ? [07:38] <[twisti]> i tried doing it with apt purge [07:45] twisti:rmdir only works for empty directories,you have to add recursiv or forced. [07:46] <[twisti]> brondif: how do i add recursive or forced to apt ? and how do i rerun whichever part of apt caused that ? [07:46] lock the man pages! === andyhuzhill_ is now known as andyhuzhill [07:47] <[twisti]> neither the word 'force' nor the word 'recursive' are in the apt man page [07:48] twisti :apt remove or rmdir [07:49] <[twisti]> what do i apt remove ? the package is already gone [07:49] <[twisti]> im trying to find a proper fix to what happened during the uninstall process, not manually delete a folder and pray thats the only thing that went wrong and that the reason it went wrong was unimportant [07:56] after my cosmic upgrade the gnome terminal has a weird whiteish boxy look and a misaligned scrollbar [07:56] :( [07:57] how do i configure the theme? [07:57] i'm fine with the colors, but the scollbar gives me a nerveous eye twich === ianychoi_ is now known as ianychoi [08:13] Is there a way to change this from purple to something else? https://i.imgur.com/6253T0K.png [08:14] I'm stuck in a login loop. I tried Google, but couldn't figure it out. I am running lubuntu 18.04 [08:14] Okay, I am super stuck. Ubuntu 16.04. I need vlc >3.0+ - but I also need to use syncplay, which means the 'snap' version of VLC is not an option. [08:15] Tried step two here - https://websiteforstudents.com/vlc-3-0-recently-released-and-heres-how-to-install-it-on-ubuntu-16-04-17-10-desktops/ [08:15] That would work, but also that would allow no chromecast support [08:16] Kinda driving me crazy there's no way to get a fully functional vlc 3.0+ on 16.04 without snap nonsense [08:17] mooses: https://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-sources.html [08:17] ppf: so basically build from source is my only option? [08:18] yes, if you don't like the binary distributions you need to build yourself [08:18] ppf: Highly worried about that - I'm imagining it's going to need gigs of stuff + special flags to have chromecast support :( [08:18] there's gotta be a better way [08:19] !info vlc [08:19] vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.3-1-1ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 32 kB, installed size 217 kB [08:19] upgrade your ubuntu [08:19] yeah, that's not an option - it's running in a crouton chroot and i'm not sure that is a thing [08:19] I guess I can try [08:19] sudo apt dist-update? [08:20] do-release-upgrade [08:20] let's see what happens [08:20] your on xenial? [08:20] yup [08:20] !info vlc bionic [08:20] vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.3-1-1ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 32 kB, installed size 217 kB [08:20] I'd rather stick with xenail and see if there is a way to like... backport it? [08:20] !info vlc xenian [08:20] 'xenian' is not a valid distribution: artful, artful-backports, artful-proposed, bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily [08:20] !info vlc xenial [08:20] then an lts upgrade should take you here [08:20] vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.2-5ubuntu0.16.04.4 (xenial), package size 1470 kB, installed size 4564 kB [08:20] mooses: if you want the recent updates of VLC media player than get their nightly updates ( daily update ) from VideoLAN team using their PPA [08:21] mooses: https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/ubuntu/master-daily [08:22] nisankhindia: ooo, nice [08:22] nisankhindia: add the repo, apt update, and then just apt install vlc? [08:23] mooses: VideoLAN Team provides two updates using PPA , stable and Daily master update , Stable one can be recieved using main repo of ubuntu but you may get daily updates from their PPA , details https://launchpad.net/~videolan [08:23] mooses: details are in their PPA page [08:23] nisankhindia: dang it, i added the master-daily [08:24] when I assume I want the stable [08:24] how do I remove the daily PPA and go to stable? [08:24] mooses: adding PPA and removing PPA is available in ubuntu doc [08:25] mooses: do some search over ubuntu help for PPA . good luck [08:25] !ppa-purge | mooses [08:25] mooses: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [08:25] US Election Party Mon. 11/5/18 23:59 [08:26] nisankhindia: thanks [08:26] mooses: You can also remove the PPA using the same command with --remove tag [08:26] EriC^^: perfect, just a simple -r or --remove [08:26] thanks you two :P [08:26] mooses: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:videolan/master-daily : This to add , and -- sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:videolan/master-daily [08:26] the -r would just remove the ppa, not the actual packages though (or deps) [08:26] sorry to be lazy, been in gentoo land for years, getting back to apt is taking me some brain power [08:27] EriC^^: *nods* I didn't install anything from the PPA, so just removing it should have taken care of things [08:27] ah ok cool [08:29] mooses: try to build packages from source in case you want them ( in case you are unable to get the latest one using ubuntu main repo , here main means not that main , it means all the repos that ubuntu provides as multiverse , main ,update etc ) [08:29] How do I undo these commands? https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/87m7xh/tip_dont_like_the_purple_gdm_login_screen_you_can/ [08:29] mooses: avoid ppa as much as you can [08:30] problem with building from source - this install is very limited on space, and installing all the needed deps and build utils is going to suck [08:31] hoping the master-daily ppa will help me [08:31] we'll see in a moment ;P [08:32] mooses: that helps not to worry ... but you have to remember if you get the package using PPA than you should remember all the future bugs related to VLC have to reported to PPA maintainer , not to ubuntu [08:33] nisankhindia: gotcha [08:33] Hopefully this will give me what I need, VLC 3.0+, not in a snap, with chromecast support [08:34] it would be easier if I did not need syncplay :P [08:41] dang it [08:41] master-daily just gave me 2.2 [08:42] mooses: wait [08:43] mooses: whats your distribution code name ?? [08:43] nisankhindia: how to check [08:43] mooses: is it xenial ( 16.04 ) [08:43] yes [08:44] mooses: after adding the PPA , run command sudo apt update [08:44] I did :( [08:44] it pulled 2.2 from that repo :( [08:44] mooses: screenshot could be helpful [08:45] nisankhindia: let me start over and include screencaps this time [08:45] removing vlc, removing the ppa, starting from ground up [08:45] hello people. I just installed ubuntu server 18.04 in a vm, choosing to install docker from the installation menu. turns out it installed as a snap, will this cause any issues? [08:46] also, i'm fairly new to docker, does it use virtualbox as a backend? I tought it was using something like kvm or lxc [08:47] mooses: remove that package and PPA for now . use a Backport release of VLC 3.0 . as you wish to have that using this method [08:49] mooses: it would be good if you get that using the source but for now use the backport release of VLC 3.0 using sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jonathonf/vlc-3 . remember the other step , to remove PPA only and the PPA + package [08:51] nisankhindia: something went wrong in the last stop [08:51] step* [08:51] does this help? [08:51] https://pastebin.com/veXN01yk [08:51] mooses: You can revert back to stock version of VLC (2.2.2) in Ubuntu 16.04 by purging the PPA via command: sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge ppa:jonathonf/vlc-3 [08:52] nisankhindia: the jonathonf one is no good, no chromecast support [08:52] this is literally so frustrating that a LTS version insists on using such a outdated vlc :( [08:52] remove the PPA for now . let me check with VLC team for your solution . what they suggest . give me few moments [08:53] thanks! [08:53] Someone mistakenly closed a bug report as 'Won't Fix' because it was filed under 17.10. The bug report also contains users including myself who experience this on 18.04 and 18.10 is likely also effected. What is a good way to get it re-opened? [08:53] Mooses: if i can get reply for now [08:54] mooses: according to VLC reply ( i think its automated ) they suggest to use snap . [08:55] mooses: for your ditsribution release [08:55] nisankhindia: not an option, snap is broken and does not support overlays [08:56] nisankhindia: cannot get the combo I need that way (vlc 3.0+, chromecast support, syncplay) [08:56] also this is super weird [08:56] removed vlc [08:56] removed the repos [08:56] yet [08:56] (xenial)mouses@localhost:~$ vlc [08:56] VLC media player 2.2.2 Weatherwax (revision 2.2.2-0-g6259d80) [08:57] mooses: i need more time to get the latest one as you want .. looking for any possible backport of the VLC github repo wait [08:57] Heh. [08:57] That silence happens automatically. [08:57] Probably because you pasted 2 lines. [08:57] hehehe thanks, sorry about that [08:58] I didn't do anything. :P [08:58]