[02:11] <sappheiros> how do i load the SSL certificate when it's in a .config folder that doesn't show up in the open dialog window after clicking 'Load'?
[02:11] <sappheiros> in quassel
[02:23] <sappheiros> Please see https://askubuntu.com/questions/1086972/how-to-use-ssl-with-quassel-lubuntu-18-10-i386
[02:27] <sappheiros> How do you hide the messages of people joining and parting in Quassel?
[02:49] <sappheiros> got it
[02:59] <Gabranamus> hi there
 Welcome Kimiyasu!
 And in other news, 40 members \o/
 39 ^^
 Does anyone know how to customize the native file dialog? I've noticed there's a file ~/.config/lxqt/filedialog.conf, but it only has a couple of lines and I can't find documentation on possible options and values. One of the things I want to accomplish is to show hidden files by default.
[12:17] <sappheiros> there's no documentation for setting up wifi at https://manual.lubuntu.me/search.html?q=internet
[12:17] <sappheiros> searching 'network' in start menu returns nothing
[12:17] <sappheiros> likewise for alt+f2
[12:17]  * sappheiros checks https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2404506
 @marneu [Does anyone know how to customize the native file dialog? I've noticed there's a …], In my case showing hidden files is by default. I switch with ctrl+h
 That only works in Featherpad forme , and only if I don't tick "use native file dialog" in Featherpad's options. Didn't you have Plasma installed? I've noticed that this works differently if Plasma or Xfce are installed alongside LXQt.
 I purged plasma, but maybe there are some "artifacs" that still chage behaivour
 Maybe I should try installing and purging Plasma :D
 sorry, I purged kwin not sure if its the same or include plasma.
 but where you don't see hidden files?
 I usually use the native file dialog with Kate. Ctrl+o to bring it up. Works similarly with Featherpad if you set it to use the native file dialog (it has an option for that).
 You can show hidden files by right-clicking, but that's not convenient.
 Really grates my gears tbh, since I use the file dialog a lot.
[12:33] <sappheiros> is this outdated? https://www.dell.com/support/article/us/en/04/sln151759/how-to-troubleshoot-wireless-network-issues-in-ubuntu-linux-on-your-dell-pc?lang=en#2 they say to 'sudo nm-tool' but 'command not found'
 @marneu [I usually use the native file dialog with Kate. Ctrl+o to bring it up. Works sim …], in mycase ctrl+h works when native filedialog is unclicked.
 when native filedialog is clicked, it doesn't
[12:35] <sappheiros> i'm thinking i don't want to do what dell suggests there regarding configuration files ... that i just need that bw-installer package askubuntu mentioned ... whose page i can't find now
 @HMollerCl yep, same here. But Kate doesn't have that option.
 @marneu [@HMollerCl yep, same here. But Kate doesn't have that option.], so it only use the native?
 Yes, Kate only uses the native one. Same with other applications (e.g. Firefox).
[12:39] <sappheiros> finally, here it is https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers
 @marneu [Yes, Kate only uses the native one. Same with other applications (e.g. Firefox).], mmm, couldn't figure out how to make it work.
 (if it could) wei will have to read the cpp manual
 I've read that a couple of times, what's the "cpp manual"? Do you mean the source code?
 @marneu [I've read that a couple of times, what's the "cpp manual"? Do you mean the sourc …], yes...
 cheeky ^^
 credits to @wxl
 Does 18.10 has a graphic interface for installing .deb? Ark doesn't seems to do it.
 probably not, dpkg -i should work tho
 doesn't resolve the dependencies tho
[13:53] <sappheiros> my gnumeric sheets dont' open now in 18.10 :(
[13:54] <sappheiros> nvm it opened from within librecalc, but not if i right-click open on the file ...
[13:55] <sappheiros> time is a real number instead of a date though ...
[15:02] <sappheiros> how do you show only the active desktop's apps in the taskbar?
 right click the taskbar, 'configure "task manager"', check "Show only windows from desktop 'Current'"
[15:10] <sappheiros> Thank you. Please consider changing this design: It's more natural to think it should be under "configure taskbar" rather than "configure task manager" ...
[15:10] <sappheiros> ... maybe ...
[15:10] <sappheiros> or, right clicking on the numbers to 'configure workspaces'
 It's in both places, though - if you "configure panel", there's a section for "widgets", and each item has a gear/menu symbol (depending on icon theme) that leads to the item's options.
[15:18] <sappheiros> i didn't see that.
[15:18] <sappheiros> i did look there, but that was not clear to me
[15:18] <sappheiros> how do i leave feedback? as another example, i would like the OS to tell me keyboard shortcut if present, like windows 10 did (i think), when hovering my cursor over 'lock screen'
[15:18] <sappheiros> i was hoping it would tell me the shortcut is super+l
[15:18] <sappheiros> instead it just says 'lock the current session' and i don't know if there's a shortcut or not
[15:49] <nosmelc> Dumb Question: 18.10 has LXQT, right?
[15:49] <wxl> not dumb and yes
[16:29] <sappheiros> how do i leave feedback? as another example, i would like the OS to tell me keyboard shortcut if present, like windows 10 did (i think), when hovering my cursor over 'lock screen'
[16:43] <CrazyTux> hello, I installed Lubuntu 18.10 yesterday. Installed this app "telegram". But, it couldn't get installed properly. But, there is a icon of it in the menu in Internet group. How can uninstall it completely and remove that icon from the list?
[16:43] <wxl> ultimately this is a question for the telegram folks
[16:43] <CrazyTux> wxl, I am running lubuntu 18.10.
 @CrazyTux [<CrazyTux> hello, I installed Lubuntu 18.10 yesterday. Installed this app "teleg …], how did you install it?
[16:44] <wxl> that's besides the point. the ubuntu repositories do not provide telegram, so we can't support it
[16:44] <CrazyTux> I don't need that app now. I think, it is not installed.
[16:44] <CrazyTux> only the icon is present there.
[16:44] <CrazyTux> I installed it because it was available on Discover.
[16:45] <wxl> you probably installed the snap
 @wxl [<wxl> that's besides the point. the ubuntu repositories do not provide telegram, …], are you sure? I don't have any other repository and sudp apt install teklegram-desktop worked for me
[16:45] <wxl> which, again, telegram is responsible for
[16:45] <CrazyTux> yes. I too was thinking that.
[16:45] <ilyaigpetrov> wxl: but they had an official package in bionic, is it over?
[16:45] <wxl> oh huh this is new i hadn't realized that
 sudo apt install telegram-desktop
[16:46] <wxl> still i bet you it's the snap that did it
[16:46] <wxl> i've heard of problems with snaps not cleaning up after themselves
 in cosmic
[16:46] <wxl> i'd just go delete the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications or wherever it might be
[16:46] <CrazyTux> I just checked the installed snap. It says telegram is not installed.
[16:47] <wxl> if it's the deb it's /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop
 sudo apt purge telegram.desktop ??
[16:47] <CrazyTux> I installed another app p7zip from Discover. It is shown in the list of snaps installed.
[16:47] <wxl> purging would be the best way to remove everything
[16:48] <CrazyTux> I tried doing that too
[16:49] <wxl> same name in the snap but good luck finding it https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/blob/dev/snap/snapcraft.yaml#L99
[16:49] <CrazyTux> wxl, not installed, so not removed.
[16:50] <CrazyTux> I don't need that app now.
[16:50] <CrazyTux> I just want that icon in the menu list removed.
[16:50] <CrazyTux> btw, Lubuntu lxqt is pretty snappy.
[16:51] <CrazyTux> I hope it is stable too.
[16:52] <wxl> find / -type f -name telegramdesktop.desktop 2>/dev/null
[16:52] <wxl> then delete all the instances you find
[16:54] <CrazyTux> wxl, what do I need to do?
[16:54] <wxl> find / -type f -name telegramdesktop.desktop 2>/dev/null
[16:54] <wxl> then delete all the instances you find
[16:54] <CrazyTux> is this a command?
[16:54] <wxl> it's certainly not english XD
[16:55] <CrazyTux> is this a directory I need to navigate to?
[16:55] <wxl> nope
[16:55] <wxl> it explicitly starts from root so you can be anywhere in the filesystem
[16:55] <wxl> it will give you a list of locations
[17:00] <CrazyTux> I am not able to locate it.
[17:01] <wxl> huh
[17:01] <wxl> try logging out and in again
[17:11] <CrazyTux> wxl, I logged in again.
[17:21] <CrazyTux> btw, which software sources should be enabled for lubuntu 18.10?
[17:21] <wxl> the ones you want XD
[17:22] <CrazyTux> ok
[17:22] <wxl> for example there are unsupported options that you still might want
[17:22] <CrazyTux> I still have that icon in the list.
[17:22] <CrazyTux> ok
[17:22] <wxl> you could include ppas that we don't support, but you might want them
[17:22] <CrazyTux> ok
[17:25] <wxl> regarding your icon i don't knwo what's going on
[17:25] <wxl> try:
[17:25] <wxl> find /usr/share -name *telegram*.desktop -type f 2>/dev/null
[17:28] <CrazyTux> wxl, couldn't locate that
[17:29] <wxl> wth
[17:29] <wxl> find ~/.local/share -name *telegram*.desktop -type f 2>/dev/null
[17:32] <CrazyTux> wxl, do I need to find this using file manager?
[17:33] <wxl> find works just as well, if not better
[17:33] <wxl> but you're welcome to try
[17:33] <CrazyTux> wxl, find in the terminal?
[17:33] <wxl> um
[17:34] <wxl> look at the first word in the command i gave you
[17:34] <CrazyTux> ok. I will copy that entirely and paste in the terminal.
[17:35] <CrazyTux> didn't get any result.
[17:36] <wxl> what EXACT steps did you take to install this software?
[17:36] <CrazyTux> I just clicked on install in the Discover.
[17:37] <CrazyTux> it took a lot of time to install that.
[17:37] <CrazyTux> along with that I installed p7zip.
[17:37] <wxl> there's multiple results for telegram
[17:37] <wxl> which one?
[17:38] <aasgk> ...hi
[17:38] <CrazyTux> strangely the icon is of p7zip. But, the name says telegram. desktop.
[17:39] <CrazyTux> when I click on the icon in the menu it won't execute, because there is not telegram app installed. I have removed that.
[17:39] <CrazyTux> but, that icon still persists.
[17:40] <wxl> you still haven't answered me
[17:40] <CrazyTux> wxl, actually I don't remember.
[17:40] <wxl> well then it's hard to know what you did
[17:41] <wxl> so it's hard to fix
[17:41] <CrazyTux> there are two. I chose one of those.
[17:41]  * wxl facepalms
[17:41] <CrazyTux> wxl, ok. let it be.
[17:41] <wxl> ok last attempt:
[17:41] <CrazyTux> ok.
[17:41] <wxl> grep -Ri telegram /usr/share
[17:42] <aasgk> how can i force a lubuntu18.10 installation on a laptop with 1gb ram -125mb for graphic?
[17:42] <wxl> aasgk: force it to do what?
[17:42] <aasgk> to do the installation ;)
[17:42] <teward> aasgk: you shouldn't have to 'force' it to install anything
[17:43] <teward> it should "just work".
[17:43] <wxl> ^ that
[17:43] <teward> are you getting a specific error?
[17:44] <aasgk> not enough memory?
[17:45] <teward> aasgk: show us the exact error you're seeing?
[17:45] <wxl> aasgk: i've done it with 512mb before
[17:45] <teward> because 'not enough memory' sounds like something screwy is going on on your system
[17:45] <teward> wxl: recently?
[17:45] <wxl> yep
[17:45] <teward> with 18.04/18.10?
[17:45] <wxl> with 18.10
[17:45] <wxl> in lxde versions i've done 256 before
[17:46] <aasgk> X Das System hat nicht genug Arbeitsspeicher. Es wird mindestens 1GB benötigt..
[17:46] <CrazyTux> wxl, what does that command do?
[17:46] <aasgk> 1GB are installed, -125 for the internal grafic..
[17:46] <wxl> CrazyTux: searches recursively through /usr/share for any instance of "telegram," in a case insensitive manner
[17:46] <teward> aasgk: so your system has 875 then.  That might mess with things.
[17:47] <CrazyTux> ok
[17:47] <teward> the OS will only see '875' if the system is taking 125 and dedicating to the graphics
[17:47] <teward> hmm...
[17:47] <wxl> still should work
[17:47] <wxl> my usual setup is the 512mb setup i did had 16mb video memory
[17:48] <wxl> can you send a screenshot of that error aasgk ?
[17:49] <CrazyTux> wxl, what do I need to do next?
[17:49] <wxl> CrazyTux: what were the results?
[17:50] <aasgk> ..i will try
[17:51] <CrazyTux> wxl, https://hastebin.com/kenayorehe.makefile
[17:54] <CrazyTux> wxl, did you find anything?
[20:35] <sappheiros> Can alt+f2 not be used for executing commands? for example, 'firefox ewtn.com' instead of just 'firefox'
[20:35] <sappheiros> when i tried it the result indicated it was searching for a file rather than parsing it as a command option
[20:57] <sappheiros> does 18.10 use Qt or LXQt? are they different? do i need to be following https://fcitx-im.org/wiki/Configure_(Ubuntu) to setup japanese keyboard layout?
[20:57] <sappheiros> it appears it uses LXQt, a type of Qt https://lxqt.org/about/
 LXQt is not a type of Qt. It's a desktop environment that uses Qt, like KDE Plasma.
[21:01] <sappheiros> man, i thought KDE, GNOME, and Qt were three different libraries of code to build an OS given a linux kernel
[21:02] <sappheiros> you're saying KDE is ... a graphics manager that uses Qt?
[21:02] <sappheiros> i just need to search KDE and read top results ...
[21:02] <sappheiros> (again)
[21:04] <sappheiros> i installed keyboard - japanese but it's just roman letters like qwerty, not creating japanese script
[21:05] <sappheiros> in fcitx configuration
 KDE, Gnome and LXQt are desktop environments; Qt and GTK are libraries you build applications with. LXQt and KDE use Qt, Gnome uses GTK. ... Don't anything about fcitx, sorry ^^
 Qt and GTK are libraries for building GUI applications.
[21:17] <sappheiros> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1087249/how-do-i-install-the-japanese-keyboard-layout-in-lubuntu-18-10
[21:17] <sappheiros> thank you
[21:30] <sappheiros> just added more detail re: apt list
[21:34] <wxl> aasgk: remove the "-ram" line in the "required" section at the end of /etc/calamares/modules/welcome.conf. you're right. i didn't test installing, but only booting.
[21:36] <sappheiros> added more detail to https://askubuntu.com/questions/1087249/how-do-i-install-the-japanese-keyboard-layout-in-lubuntu-18-10
[22:11] <lynorian> firefox runs rough with 1 GB of ram if you have that or less I would recommend falkon but that has problems with nvidia apparantly
[22:12] <otyugh> hey
[22:12] <otyugh> after upgrading to lubuntu 18.04 from 16, I have to login twice after suspend
[22:12] <otyugh> any idea ?
 otyugh: Is it the same window/dialog, or do they look different? If it's the latter, you probably have two screenlockers running (e.g. lightdm's light-locker and xscreensaver). You'll have to disable the one that isn't xscreensaver (LXQt is a bit bitchy if you don't use xscreensaver).
[22:37] <otyugh> thanks
[22:38] <otyugh> they looked similar to me but I'm not sure 100%
 You could try opening htop or qps (assuming you're on 18.10) and checking what's running). htop has a handy search function.