[00:20] <balsaq> i may have to remove ubuntu and try kubuntu ubuntu cannot dim my display on my laptop they never installed the softwqare to make it work
[00:20] <balsaq> i wonder if kubuntu can do it
[00:20] <balsaq> its eating my battery cuz i cannot dim it
[00:44] <balsaq> is anyone running kubuntu on a laptop?
[01:03] <valorie> balsaq: I am, and dimming works perfectly
[01:04] <valorie> fn key + the built-in bright and dim work just fine
[01:04] <valorie> I did nothing to make that work
[01:26] <kalikatz> same here, hp pavilion g6.  dimming works great  conky reports cpu 45C gpu 45C  idling along
[01:32] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.14.2 on Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) powered by Linux 4.18.0-10-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 2022-2087/3800 MHz, RAM: 31804/32118 MB, Storage: 336/1144 GB, 226 procs, 165.3h up
 @balsaq, There is a function in grub to enable keyboard keys for dimming. That may be an issue. ??
 Sorry - in BIOS!
[01:47] <valorie> ah
[01:47] <valorie> I didn't have to do that
 I lost function one day and Dell support gave me that solution.
[01:49] <jacky> same
[01:49] <jacky> although I haven't had to do that for my current laptop
[04:56] <beltorak> hi all; i'm doing a (mostly) fresh install of kubuntu 18.04 and i'm having trouble manually setting up my partitions with an encrypted root. the installer keeps crashing. has anyone gotten that to work before?
[04:57] <valorie> I always use a partitioning tool to set those up in advance
[04:57] <valorie> otherwise it gets too complicated
[04:58] <beltorak> cool, i usually start with *-server that way, how do you do it with the kubuntu install cd?
[04:58] <valorie> why would root be encrypted? just curious
[04:58] <beltorak> not /root, but the rootfs
[04:58] <jacky> probably under a LVM (logical volume manager); I think Ubuntu's installer has been nudging people to use that
[04:58] <valorie> I use kde partitonmanager
[04:58] <beltorak> hm
[04:59] <valorie> but one can use parted
[04:59] <beltorak> yeah i can create the encrypted partitions, but I don't know how to make the installer recognize that an already encrypted partition should be used as /
[04:59] <valorie> you won't be able to do it from a live session without some fiddling
[04:59] <valorie> ah
[04:59] <valorie> well, that is beyond what I know
[05:00] <beltorak> tell me what you know, i can probably adapt it
[05:00] <jacky> beltorak: you'd have to get into the active desktop and _mount_ that disk
[05:00] <beltorak> does it have to be mounted at a specific location, or with a specific /dev/mapper name?
[05:01] <jacky> like if it's /dev/sda3 [05:01] <jacky> I actually might try this out right now, lol
[05:01] <beltorak> ok, i'll give that a shot
[05:04] <beltorak> ooooh, i got a new dialog; "detected /dev/mapper/<luks-name>" - looks promising
[05:05] <jacky> yup! that should ask for your mount passphrase
[05:05] <jacky> I'm booting up the VM now
[05:05] <beltorak> it didn't ask for the passphrase since i guess this time it detected a filesystem on it - last time i tried this i didn't mkfs it or mount it
[05:07] <beltorak> ok, yeah, because (last time) there wasn't a file system on it (just luksOpen'd), it was trying to get me to create a partition table, this time it let me select to use the existing fs as / (i hope)
[05:08] <beltorak> so i have an already formatted/partitioned one partition as efi, it will automatically detect and use that, right (/boot is unencrypted)
[05:12] <beltorak> well it's actually progressing; that's good; thank you jacky and valorie. one of these days i'll move to lvm
[05:19] <beltorak> well it's finished; moment of truth
[05:43] <beltorak> :( ok it boots, but it doesn't attempt to decrypt /
[05:43] <beltorak> in 14.04 i used to have an /etc/crypttab listing the boot-time partitions to decrypt, but that doesn't exist now. do i need to create that?
[05:44] <beltorak> i tried chroot'ing to the encrypted /, mounting all the partitions where they should be, and running update-initramfs, but that didn't seem to work
[05:46] <beltorak> jacky: what did your expirement with the vm discover?
[06:19] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:31] <beltorak> jacky: ok, creating the /etc/crypttab and running update-initrd worked; now i have the fun of reinstating my normal user
[06:36] <beltorak> is creating "plasma widgets" any easier or more well documented than it was for 14.04? I have shell script kdialog thing i want to turn into a systray thing, prefereably without having to delve into c++ or qt designer...
[06:47] <jacky> agh, they're gone
[06:47] <jacky> but it did work for me when re-trying with a VM
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:10] <Alexfrench> hello
 that ppa doesn't support 18.10
[16:15] <jubo2> Hiya. What do people use as a mail client. I've been trying to use Kmail, but it just does not work very well. When adding new accounts they never show up in the left-hand side box so they are unaccessable, even as I see that they are being checked for mail. Also its got lots of other bugs. Thanks in advance
 @jubo2, i'm currently using kmail, you can try thunderbird or geary
[16:53] <jubo2> ok avizini. I need to give one or both a try, cause Kmail just ain't working for me on Kubuntu 18.04.1
[16:56] <Alexfrench> i have thunderbird too and it works
[16:59] <BluesKaj> kmail isn't worth the trouble IMO
[21:45] <ubUXUbu> hello kunutites
[21:45] <ubUXUbu> kubuntites
[23:37] <kalikatz> trying to send email with KMail. I attach a .txt file and all is ok, I attach a .7z file and get "Failed to transport message. Server error".  Am i overlooking something too simple?
[23:37] <kalikatz> @gmail
[23:43] <kalikatz> ok, i just tried same email to myself using google's web app and i get this "message.7z (1K) Blocked for security reasons!"  sad :(