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[04:06] <lynorian> Steedalion: that looks like a lot of work you have done but the shortcut keys has multiple lines of bold text which causes sphinx to emit a wall of warnings
[04:12] <lynorian> it is not currently being published to the manual as it is not in the table of contents
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[04:33] <lynorian> Steedalion:  http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/ref/rst/restructuredtext.html#simple-tables if you want to make tables
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[06:23] <lynorian> Steedalion: yeah lets talk here where I can know what is said on logs and others might chime in to help
[06:23] <lynorian> but I did link you to more on tables
[06:23] <lynorian> I think a table would be best
[06:29] <Steedalion> Okay. I will put it in a table
[06:30] <Steedalion> Is there a way to display the content of one file in another in sphinx or do I just create a link.
[06:32] <Steedalion> The thing is this. We have Global keyboard shortcuts  which takes prefernce and then openbox  keyboard shortcuts, which is the 
[06:32] <Steedalion> file you've seen.
[06:33] <Steedalion> Anyone reading this. We are doing a keyboard shortcut chapter in the Documentation and I would like to automate the process since the Openbox file is an xml.
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[06:37] <lynorian> I don't know anything about automatically parsing xml though
[06:44] <Steedalion> That's the part thats done.
[07:17] <Steedalion> https://github.com/Steedalion/manual/blob/master/source/F/openbox_keyboard.rst
[07:19] <Steedalion> Not ready to merge yet but I think the table looks good. I'm not sure whether to take out the last few entries though. They appear to be power management stuff and keys I don't have on my  keyboard.
[08:22] <AuroraAvenue> Come on !community - you'll cruze this! https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20181029
[08:22] <AuroraAvenue> but the spam is about to go 100
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[14:28] <lubot> <lbssousa> In order to have a better contrast between Papirus icon theme and Lubuntu default (dark) panel, consider unchecking option "Colorize icons based on widget style (palette)" by default in "LXQt Appearence Config > Icon theme" (if available)
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[15:06] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> @lbssousa [In order to have a better contrast between Papirus icon theme and Lubuntu defaul …], That makes things look better in the task bar, but makes them look bad in the Configure Panel Widgets. It looks like there is a lot more themeing work that needs to be done.
[15:08] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> @Wafficus I did a poll of soem distro hoppers, to find out what some people like to see then the Welcome application. I', also workign on a mockup. Here is what was said:
[15:08] <lubot> <Wafficus> @tsimonq2 hey Simon did you look at my qt code regarding cmake?
[15:09] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> [User Manual] ... [Videos] ... [Wiki] ... [Community/Forum] ... [Control Center] ... [Support the Distro/Contribute] ... Checkbox to not show again.  ... new features...  Lubuntu specific apps.. how to launch applications... how to download new apps.... and anything to clear up the confusing myriad of Lubuntu setting/configurati
[15:09] <lubot> on options ... @TheWendyPower I've always liked a larger version of the logo in the center of the app and then the button links on the sides. ... "I feel like the experience should be intuitive enough not to require a welcome screen. ... Quick links to system configs and preferences, browser choice, software selection/store, and an intro/quick FAQ 
[15:09] <lubot> and what's new. Mostly things that stay *in* the local environment. When you start bringing in things that require external sources as a visual experience (such as web pages), you potentially taint the experience based on the connectivity at the time or server issues, etc. But the welcome screen opening more apps to do what the welcome screen shoul
[15:09] <lubot> d do is not ideal. So opening a browser is a no-no. If it can't be done in the app, it shouldn't be part of it."
[15:12] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @Wafficus [@tsimonq2 hey Simon did you look at my qt code regarding cmake?], I haven't quite yet, sorry. Link?
[15:15] <lubot> <Wafficus> One sec
[15:16] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @TheWendyPower [[User Manual] ... [Videos] ... [Wiki] ... [Community/Forum] ... [Control Center] ... [Support the Di …], 👍
[15:18] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @TheWendyPower [That makes things look better in the task bar, but makes them look bad in the Co …], @lbssousa yes, pcmafm-qt for instance. Apparently for papirus icon, since they are monochrme, the combintaion of dark panel (taskbar) and light windows doesn't work well. The exception is the nm-tray icon, still don't know why.
[15:22] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> @HMollerCl [@lbssousa yes, pcmafm-qt for instance. Apparently for papirus icon, since they a …], Right now I'm not using the Papirius Icons nore the default theme. The only issue I'm having, with the changes I made (using the default LXQt theme), is how things look in the search. I don't have the issue with other LXQt themes
[15:22] <lubot> . So that code needs to be dug through as well.
[15:23] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/uK0AY7dm/file_4463.png
[15:23] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> There is my issue ^
[15:25] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @TheWendyPower [There is my issue ^], wow!! Never noticed that. That might be because of the "breeze dark quirk"
[15:27] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> I'm not using breeze anymore. I'm sing the GTK2 theme as my widget theme. The Lubuntu Arc LXQt theme is the only one doign this.
[15:29] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @TheWendyPower [I'm not using breeze anymore. I'm sing the GTK2 theme as my widget theme. The Lu …], I don't think so. I've the same problem with breeze and the dark quirk. But if I change to Fusion for instance or breeze w/o the quirk, it doesn't happen
[15:33] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @TheWendyPower [<reply to image>], I can repro
[15:34] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> @HMollerCl [I don't think so. I've the same problem with breeze and the dark quirk. But if I …], I see... I was not having that issue when everything was the default themes, with the search anyway. I launch almost all applications by using the super key + tying the name of the application. I've also noticed, if there is more
[15:34] <lubot>  than one application that comes up in the search, I have to hit the arrow 3 times before I get the highlighted application to change.
[15:34] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> @tsimonq2 [I can repro], So something we must get tracked down!
[15:35] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @TheWendyPower [I see... I was not having that issue when everything was the default themes, wit …], apparently is because of dark themes. Qt or gtk.
[15:39] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> I have everything set to dark. The Lubuntu Arc LXQt theme is the only thing still giving me fits.
[15:40] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @TheWendyPower [I have everything set to dark. The Lubuntu Arc LXQt theme is the only thing stil …], That was Raf's custom thing.
[15:40] <lubot> <tsimonq2> So you might need to play with it.
[15:42] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @TheWendyPower [I have everything set to dark. The Lubuntu Arc LXQt theme is the only thing stil …], yup, System, Dark or Abiance doesn't have that problem.
[15:43] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> @tsimonq2 ya, I'll  have to dig into that one and find where the issue is.
[15:43] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> I'll add it to the to-do list....
[15:55] <lubot> <bonacin91> you guys need help? never done kernel dev though.only software development
[16:05] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @bonacin91 [you guys need help? never done kernel dev though.only software development], We absolutely do, and we really don't do the kernel stuff. :)
[16:05] <lubot> <tsimonq2> What experience do you have?
[16:06] <lubot> <bonacin91> computer science barchelor
[16:06] <lubot> <bonacin91> ...
[16:06] <lubot> <bonacin91> python and c
[16:06] <lubot> <tsimonq2> How long have you been doing Python, out of curiosity?
[16:20] <lubot> <bonacin91> men about a year
[17:35] <lubot> v4vnc was added by: v4vnc
[17:38] <lubot> <v4vnc> Hello everyone yesterday I installed lubuntu 18 on my pentium 4 it was working well through my USB means in live environment but when I installed it.Then after boot it shows lubuntu logo after that black screen with mouse cursor
[17:38] <lubot> <v4vnc> @v4vnc [Hello everyone yesterday I installed lubuntu 18 on my pentium 4 it was working w …], How to solve this??
[17:55] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Hi @v4vnc please put support issues in the support channel of telegram.
[18:32] <mpmc_znc> tsimonq2: Any reason why OFTC and not freenode for #lxqt?
[18:42] <wxl> mpmc_znc: that's a question for lxqt, but ultimately i suspect it derives from the fact that the primary lxqt user of irc is a debian developer, which is oftc's domain.
[18:43] <mpmc_znc> wxl: I saw something along those lines on the forum :)
[19:02] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> mpmc_znc: that's a question for lxqt, but ultimately i suspect it derives …], And that's exactly right.
[19:04] <mpmc_znc> tsimonq2: fair enough. I assume it's agaida's choice :).
[19:06] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @mpmc_znc [<mpmc_znc> tsimonq2: fair enough. I assume it's agaida's choice :).], Yes, needless to say we don't agree with all of his choices. XD
[19:07] <mpmc_znc> tsimonq2: Doesn't he use/make Siduction rather than Lubuntu? Or does he work on both?
[19:11] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @mpmc_znc [<mpmc_znc> tsimonq2: Doesn't he use/make Siduction rather than Lubuntu? Or does …], Just Siduction
[19:14] <mpmc_znc> tsimonq2: That explains why he recommended it to me a long time ago. I'll see how it compares to Lubuntu.
[19:14] <mpmc_znc> I really should upgrade my htpc but meh, 18.04 works.
[19:18] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @bonacin91 [meh about a year], Got it. ... We do have an IRC bot that could use some new features and general cleanup. It would honestly make all of our lives much easier.
[19:18] <lubot> <tsimonq2> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lugito/ is the source
[19:24] <teward> @tsimonq2 so, is there a reason you left .py off of the python file?
[19:26] <teward> also how doth one fork / PR in phab :P
[19:26] <mpmc_znc> I think it's supposed to run as a script? Although it should still run with or without it.
[19:27] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @teward [<teward> @tsimonq2 so, is there a reason you left .py off of the python file?], Because it has a shebang. :P
[19:28] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @teward [<teward> also how doth one fork / PR in phab :P], Look at the packaging tutorial in the wiki; it's a bit complicated but you'll get used to it...
[19:29] <teward> well i can't clone to begin with so I mean
[19:30] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I remember writing this with very little sleep, but it works. :P
[19:30] <teward> (ERR: GIT ERROR)
[19:30] <teward> so wait, this is a public repo...
[19:30] <teward> ... yet you don't let people git clone it (this is what Git is telling me)
[19:30] <teward> i think yer phab is fubar Simon
[19:32] <teward> @tsimonq2: Mind if I clean up some of the Python style here?
[19:32] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @teward [<teward> (ERR: GIT ERROR)], Uh wat?
[19:32] <teward> because there's some... errors...
[19:32] <teward> ... in your style...
[19:32] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Sure, if you want, lol
[19:32] <lubot> <tsimonq2> FOUR SPACES IS A MUST FOR INDENTING
[19:32] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Fite me
[19:32] <lubot> <tsimonq2> :P
[19:33] <teward> lol no crap, it's the REST of the code style that needs a flamethrower on it
[19:33] <teward> *grabs a hammer, a flamethrower, and a 12-gauge and goes to war against the code*
[19:33] <lubot> <tsimonq2> First fix your cloning error
[19:33] <lubot> <tsimonq2> But yes, thanks I guess :P
[19:35] <mpmc_znc> teward: What's wrong with it? :)
[19:35] <lubot> <tsimonq2> (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/lQ5xUCNY/file_4479.mp4
[19:36] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Whoops
[19:36] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Wrong GIF :P
[19:36] <lubot> <tsimonq2> It works though
[19:36] <lubot> <tsimonq2> (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/0k6fR0xR/file_4480.mp4
[19:36] <lubot> <tsimonq2> That's it
[19:36] <mpmc_znc> wtf did I just watch.
[19:36] <lubot> <tsimonq2> 😆
[19:38] <mpmc_znc> Hmm, all this talk of Python code reminds me, I need to rewrite mine for the 100000th time. I'll drop a link so teward can flame mine too LOL. https://github.com/mpmc/HS602/blob/master/hs602/Controller.py
[19:38] <teward> tsimonq2: who wrote this code to begin with
[19:38] <teward> because there are a LOT of errors that WILL explode
[19:39] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @teward [<teward> tsimonq2: who wrote this code to begin with], I did
[19:39] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Fwd from tsimonq2: I remember writing this with very little sleep, but it works. :P
[19:39] <teward> *drags @tsimonq2 out to the edge of the river, then yeets him into the river*
[19:39] <teward> @tsimonq2 incoming flood
[19:39] <lubot> <bonacin91> ill check later!!
[19:41] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @teward [<teward> *drags @tsimonq2 out to the edge of the river, then yeets him into the …], Hah
[19:44] <mpmc_znc> teward, tsimonq2: I would offer to help with the code of lugito if it was mirrored on github.
[19:44] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @mpmc_znc [<mpmc_znc> teward, tsimonq2: I would offer to help with the code of lugito if it …], But it is.
[19:44] <mpmc_znc> where?
[19:45] <lubot> <tsimonq2> https://github.com/lubuntu-team/lugito
[19:45] <lubot> <tsimonq2> We prefer to get people on Phab, but meh, my Git-foo is strong enough to manually merge to Phab.
[19:47] <mpmc_znc> tsimonq2: I'll leave it up to teward. However when I have free time I'll chip in.
[19:47] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @mpmc_znc [<mpmc_znc> tsimonq2: I'll leave it up to teward. However when I have free time I …], Cool 👍
[19:51] <mpmc_znc> Welp, Siduction didn't boot on my Thinkpad :( Time to see if Lubuntu will. I wish lubuntu.net wasn't the default result in search >.<
[19:53] <mpmc_znc> :o Rafael left
[19:56] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Yup :(
[19:57] <mpmc_znc> What will happen with the site tsimonq2 ?
[19:57] <lubot> <tsimonq2> I'm not at liberty to say where we're at in the process yet.
[19:57] <lubot> <teward001> ***AUTOMATED SELFDESTRUCT INITIATED ALL HAIL THE END TIMES*** *BOOM*
[19:57] <lubot> <teward001> ^ that
[19:57] <lubot> <teward001> (just kidding!)
[19:59] <teward> *yawns, and goes back to prodding Simon's code*
[20:00] <mpmc_znc> "All these talking bots are stupid!"
[20:02] <mpmc_znc> Only bad thing about SQM? It slows my Lubuntu ISO download.
[20:07] <lubot> <HMollerCl> WOW 100 telegram members!!
[20:11] <mpmc_znc> What is Telegram, can you eat it? :p
[20:25] <lubot> <HMollerCl> might cause indigestion to some.
[20:25] <lubot> <HMollerCl> :P
[20:29] <mpmc_znc> Looks like Lubuntu 18.10 doesn't want to install :( 
[20:29] <wxl> sure it does
[20:30] <mpmc_znc> Well, the installer doesn't seem to want to auto partition, only manual.
[20:30] <wxl> that's probably because you have something mounted
[20:31] <wxl> among other things: swap from an old install. unfortunately all the ubuntu images automount them
[20:31] <wxl> so figure out what's mounted and unmuont it (swapoff for the swaps)
[20:32] <mpmc_znc> wxl: it's EFI causing issues.
[20:32] <wxl> ?
[20:32] <mpmc_znc> refuses to install without an efi partition.
[20:33] <wxl> well i mean if you have efi, it wants to have an efi partition, yes.
[20:33] <wxl> boot in legacy mode if you don't
[20:33] <wxl> because otherwise efi won't boot it anyways
[20:39] <mpmc_znc> Wouldn't it make sense to disable EFI in the installer in that case.
[20:40] <wxl> if you booot in legacy mode, it won't give you the efi options unless you manually do it
[20:41] <mpmc_znc> wxl: I changed the bios to always use legacy mode.
[20:41] <wxl> then it shouldn't show you any efi stuff now
[20:42] <wxl> (unless you manually do it)
[20:42] <mpmc_znc> It doesn't.
[20:43] <wxl> i'd say for most people giving them the option to set up partitioning for a firmware interface that they're not currently using is assuming a little too much. so it tries to be smart and goes with what you're using (while allowing people who do know what they are doing to do whatever they want)
[20:44] <mpmc_znc> The installer actually tells you how to resolve the problem, but new users shouldn't have to worry about things like that.
[20:45] <wxl> the issue is only because you have things mounted
[20:45] <wxl> if you didn't have things mounted, then you'd just have the "entire disk" option
[20:46] <wxl> there are bugs filed to make that a little bit more obvious/easier to resolve
[20:46] <mpmc_znc> I'm using the "live" installer via usb.
[20:47] <wxl> and you likely had a previous install
[20:47] <wxl> and that install likely had swaps on it
[20:47] <wxl> which the ubuntu images automatically mount
[20:47] <wxl> and the installer won't give you the automount options if anything is mounted
[20:52] <mpmc_znc> Looks like it's stuck on "create locale".
[20:52] <mpmc_znc> Oh there we go.
[20:52] <wxl> patience is a virtue
[20:52] <mpmc_znc> It was there for a loooong time :p
[20:53] <wxl> yep
[20:53] <wxl> it sure does
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[20:53] <wxl> and there's no way to optimize it to use multiple cores
[20:53] <wxl> there's a bug out for that too
[20:56] <mpmc> Well, it installed, still doesn't boot.
[20:57] <wxl> did you manually partition or auto partition?
[20:57] <mpmc> Auto.
[20:58] <mpmc> I have ubuntu, windows boot manager, cd, hdd, and lan.
[20:58] <wxl> and you did it with bios booted.. and you're using bios to boot now, right?
[20:58] <mpmc> Yes, it's still on legacy.
[20:59] <wxl> did you check the hashes of the image?
[20:59] <mpmc> yes.
[20:59] <wxl> and what happens when you boot it?
[21:00] <mpmc> I get the live envio from usb, but installed on the hard drive I get the thinkpads app menu screen.
[21:01] <wxl> the thinkpad's app menu screen? what is that?
[21:02] <mpmc> wxl: looks like this.. https://forums.techguy.org/proxy.php?image=http%3A%2F%2Fi41.tinypic.com%2Ff2rzr.jpg&hash=2b50ea33a69501a13f15d85c27ffb1fb
[21:02] <wxl> and then if you boot from the disc?
[21:02] <mpmc> It just loops back to the app menu
[21:03] <wxl> huh. not sure what to say. if the installation suceeded and if every condition you say is true, it should just work. 
[21:04] <wxl> maybe there's some other boot parameter you have to select. i don't know.
[21:04] <wxl> did you use encryption?
[21:04] <mpmc> Nope.
[21:05] <wxl> i guess it's possible the installer failed to install everything correctly. seems unlikely, but possible. you could always do it over again.
[21:05] <wxl> why not use efi?
[21:05] <lubot> <HMollerCl> grub problem?
[21:05] <wxl> i see you say you have windows boot manager. i'm not sure how that gets implicated.
[21:06] <wxl> grub problems should result in a dump to grub recovery prompt
[21:07] <mpmc> Could be because I used rufus in dd mode on windows to flash the iso.
[21:07] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I mean, something repairable with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:07] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Onec I installed along windows 10 and after installation I had to use boot repair
[21:07] <mpmc> I don't have windows on it :p
[21:08] <wxl> you do have a "windows boot manager" you said
[21:08] <lubot> <HMollerCl> But you have windows boot manager?
[21:08] <mpmc> Yeah, thats what I can't understand lol
[21:08] <wxl> um
[21:09] <mpmc> The only thing on here is Linux.
[21:09] <wxl> then why do you think you have a windows boot manager?
[21:09] <mpmc> It's always shown wbm.
[21:09] <wxl> where?
[21:09] <mpmc> in the boot menu.
[21:09] <wxl> right
[21:09] <wxl> so you might have some weird firmware interface stuff going on
[21:10] <wxl> just go back to using efi and redo the install. it's a safer bet.
[21:12] <mpmc> wxl: Yeah, looks that way, I've killed the partitions completely, yet the boot "application menu" still shows both "ubuntu" and wbm.
[21:12] <mpmc> must be an efi thing.
[21:15] <lubot> <HMollerCl> consider also using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair if a new install doesn't work
[21:20] <mpmc> What the hell, I delete all partitions and create just create a blank ms-dos one.. I've now got the option to erase disc with EFI setup automatically done. LOL
[21:21] <mpmc> ms-dos one = blank partition table
[21:21] <wxl> because at that point, you have nothing mounted
[21:21] <mpmc> I didn't mount anything before lol
[21:21] <wxl> did you not hear me tell you things get automounted?
[21:21] <wxl> i said it about 5 times..
[21:22] <mpmc> I checked, nothing was automounted :)
[21:22] <wxl> you checked your swaps?
[21:22] <mpmc> yes :)
[21:23] <wxl> then i'm not sure what to tell you, but i've never found a case where that occurs unless something is mounted somewhere
[21:23] <wxl> whether or not it's done by user intervention
[21:23] <mpmc> only thing that should be mounted was the live usb drive, but that's mounted now, and I have these options lol
[21:24]  * mpmc shrugs. Thinkpads, weird beasts.
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[21:30] <mpmc> wxl: Thanks for your help in trying to figure out that oddity. It appears to be installing, will mention if it boots or now lol.
[21:31] <mpmc> not*
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[21:35] <mpmc> Wow those screensavers, makes me think I'm smoking something lol
[21:37] <mpmc> It's alive!
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