[00:46] Hello and good evening! Long time user trying to cope with changes and give the best effort towards switching to 18.10.. I'm sure the new stuff is as good if not better, but I'm having some issues trying to get a similar panel to what I had up to 18.04, in example, showing system temperature in text as an applet.. [00:47] A quick search didn't help me much, other than one post about a quite convoluted use of Conky.. What am I missing? is it really not possible to have the sensors monitor in text instead of bars? [04:17] I tried answering my question at https://askubuntu.com/questions/1086869/how-do-i-fix-fcitx-from-freezing-my-keyboard-and-mouse-click but instead askubuntu posted it as a comment, even though I specifically clicked to post an answer. [05:34] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1088135/in-lubuntu-18-10-nothing-happens-when-connecting-external-display === Pici` is now known as Pici [17:56] v4vnc was added by: v4vnc [17:56] Fwd from v4vnc: Hello everyone yesterday I installed lubuntu 18 on my pentium 4 it was working well through my USB means in live environment but when I installed it.Then after boot it shows lubuntu logo after that black screen with mouse cursor [17:56] Fwd from v4vnc: How to solve this?? [17:57] @v4vnc can you get to a virtual terminal with ctrl-alt-f1? [17:57] No [17:58] cttrl-alt- does not work? [17:58] @wxl> cttrl-alt- cttrl-alt- does not work?], Now in live environment also lubuntu then it loads and nothing happens [17:58] @wxl> cttrl-alt- cttrl-alt- does not work?], No [17:59] @v4vnc did you check the hashes of the iso after downloading and the integrity of the copy to the usb? [17:59] @wxl [ @v4vnc did you check the hashes of the iso after downloading and the integ …], How to do that [17:59] oh boy [17:59] well that's the #1 thing you need to do every single time [17:59] !hashes [17:59] See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of all downloadable Ubuntu releases [18:00] that will take care of checking the iso, which will confirm whether or not there are download errors [18:00] after that, you can boot the USB and at the boot screen, select "check disc for defects," which will confirm whether or not there are copy errors [18:00] a single BIT of difference can lead to some really strange problems [18:03] @wxl [ after that, you can boot the USB and at the boot screen, select "check dis …], I had already tested disc before installing but it didn't showed any error [18:03] @v4vnc did you do both steps? [18:06] @v4vnc the other problem that i can't resolve is the inconsistency of your situation. if it worked before in the live environment, why doesn't it work now? what did you change? unless you're not properly booting to the usb and you're just booting to the drive every time. [18:09] it could be a problem with the graphic driver [18:09] that usually does not lead to freezes [18:11] as far as i understand it, it is blocked during the boot [18:11] if there's a graphics issue, it will boot x, but with errors [18:11] at which point, the virtual terminals work fine [18:13] if it reaches graphical.target [18:16] Hey I got access to terminal [18:16] Now what [18:16] what changed? [18:17] @wxl [ what changed?], Nothing just rebooted twice [18:17] "nothing" [18:17] @wxl [ what changed?], Still same problem black screen with cursor [18:17] this smells like a hardware issue to me [18:17] (Video, 83s)https://telegram.lubuntu.me/7nR7Z0Bp/file_4468.mp4 [18:17] like broken hardware [18:17] @v4vnc [], See thia [18:17] **This [18:17] you mean a mouse cursor? [18:18] @wxl [ like broken hardware], But xubuntu and Ubuntu were working good [18:18] @apt-ghetto [ you mean a mouse cursor?], Yeah [18:18] @v4vnc [But xubuntu and Ubuntu were working good], Though they were slow [18:18] but you just said it works some of the time and doesn't work other times [18:18] @wxl [ but you just said it works some of the time and doesn't work other times], Yeah [18:18] i mean the software isn't changing itself [18:19] Right now tell me what to do [18:19] so what other explanation is there/ [18:19] well, i can't fix broken [18:19] @wxl [ well, i can't fix broken], I think prblm is with graphic card [18:19] login to a console and update your system: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [18:20] My PC is old that's why may be [18:20] @apt-ghetto [ login to a console and update your system: sudo apt update && sudo …], Kk [18:20] but i would agree, in general, that if you get an unexpected situation in terms of graphics, it's probably a graphics issue, most likely one that can be fixed with the right drivers or kernel modes. [18:21] @wxl [ but i would agree, in general, that if you get an unexpected situation in …], How to do that [18:21] depends on the situation. you'd need to dig through the logs and see what errors you find [18:22] you could see if there are proprietary drivers with `sudo ubuntu-drivers list` [18:22] @wxl [ depends on the situation. you'd need to dig through the logs and see what …], Do you have any reference link [18:22] no. in /var/log there's syslog, dmesg, and the Xorg logs that should be looked through for *ERRORS* (not warnings) [18:24] regarding kernel options you can look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions .... nomodeset works a lot of the time [18:25] journalctl -b -p err [18:25] all the kernel parameters are here https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt [18:26] And about the graphic card? It's the onboard Intel graphic card or external one? [18:28] Lubuntu 16.04 works fine with this machine? It's old hardware, Asus p5pe-vm Intel 865/ICH5 [18:33] I am finding something strange ,before appearance of black screen my PC screen splash so why it's happening [18:34] @v4vnc [I am finding something strange ,before appearance of black screen my PC screen s …], U can see that in video also [18:36] And about my questions [18:38] @Marcelo Pugliesi [And about the graphic card? It's the onboard Intel graphic card or external one?], Onboard [18:42] please post: lspci -nnk | grep -A3 "\[03..\]:" [18:46] @apt-ghetto [ please post: lspci -nnk | grep -A3 "\[03..\]:"], Aptghetto means [18:46] Am I supposed to type that also [18:46] copy&paste to the terminal [18:46] or type it [18:47] K [18:48] (Photo, 1280x768) https://i.imgur.com/KIxdQHa.jpg Its showing this [18:49] first letter is a little L not a pipe [18:50] after grep has to be a space [18:51] (Photo, 1280x768) https://i.imgur.com/ZtOJJOB.jpg [18:51] there are missing other spaces [18:51] The command is just: ... lspci -nnk | grep -A3 "\[03..\]:" [18:51] lspci-nnk etc [18:52] It worked [18:53] (Photo, 1280x768) https://i.imgur.com/pMJppnT.jpg [18:53] XD [18:53] maybe try `lspci -nnk | grep -A3 VGA` [18:54] or maybe just `lspci -nnk | pastebinit` and give us the resulting URL [18:55] (Photo, 768x1280) https://i.imgur.com/BimuVSn.jpg [18:56] you're either using too few or too many spaces [18:56] `lspci -nnk` not `lspci-nnk` and not `lspci - nnk` [18:58] lspci - nnk [18:58] lspci -nnk [18:58] (Photo, 1280x768) https://i.imgur.com/YlafOZ9.jpg [18:59] Now [18:59] What's the next step [19:02] can you type that out here? [19:02] Yeah [19:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZWDwM7QKKr/ [19:02] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZWDwM7QKKr/ [19:03] i couldn't even make that out as a Q [19:04] @wxl [ i couldn't even make that out as a Q], Now what's the next step [19:06] did you run that journalctl command from above? [19:07] Yeah [19:07] and? [19:08] (Photo, 1280x768) https://i.imgur.com/ONksOSe.jpg [19:09] it's hard to read these pcitures [19:09] you should use pastebinit as above [19:09] (Photo, 1280x768) https://i.imgur.com/pnDLEzr.jpg See this one [19:09] however i'm seeing errors both with your disk and the usb drive itself [19:10] as aforementioned, can't fix broken [19:11] @wxl [ however i'm seeing errors both with your disk and the usb drive itself], Ohk but tell me xubuntu was working fine so should I install that?? [19:11] i suspect if you try to install that you will run into the samep roblems [19:12] So what it means [19:12] it means you have broken hardware. replace your harddrive. [19:12] I will not be able to boot any Linux distro [19:12] @wxl [ it means you have broken hardware. replace your harddrive.], Kk [19:14] this explains why the usb worked [19:14] no hard drive required [19:14] however, you do seem to be having errors with the usb, which may be related to a particular usb port [19:14] although it's entirely possible it could be dying, too [19:15] @wxl [ however, you do seem to be having errors with the usb, which may be relate …], I think USB error is showing bcoz my phone is connected to PC I am using it for Internet [19:15] it's possible [19:16] waaaait a minute [19:16] i'm gonna take back what i said [19:17] that's /dev/fd0. do you have a floppy drive on this machine? [19:17] @wxl [ that's /dev/fd0. do you have a floppy drive on this machine?], No its just showing even I don't have floppy driver [19:18] well that's weird.. [19:18] i/o could be because of corrupt RAM [19:18] could be [19:19] corrupt RAM can make all kinds of crazy stuff happen [19:19] you can reboot and at the GRUB screen use the memtester [19:20] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WsmzkybDkr/ [19:20] go test your memory [19:21] Kk [19:24] if memtest find errors, you can abort it, because your RAM is corrupt [19:25] if not, let memtest run some hours to be sure (6 hours or more) [19:25] @apt-ghetto [ if not, let memtest run some hours to be sure (6 hours or more)], 6 hours or 6 pass [19:27] 6 hours with zero errors and you can be very sure, that your RAM is working well [19:27] 6 hours with one or more errors and your RAM is corrupt === mpmc_znc is now known as mpmc [20:54] (Photo, 1280x768) https://i.imgur.com/dcnMiqe.jpg I installed xubuntu through but during PC started showing this..Now I m not getting is it good or bad?? [20:54] @v4vnc [], Through USB [20:54] how did the memchecking go? [20:56] @wxl [ how did the memchecking go?], U said 6 hours I don't have that much time and earlier xubuntu was working well on my PC so I reinstalled it [20:56] that wasn't the entirety of the message [20:56] @v4vnc [], Tell me meaning of this [20:56] did you try them at all? [20:57] @wxl [ did you try them at all?], What???I am not getting what u r trying to say [20:57] did you try the memtest at all? [20:57] Yes I tried it once it said error:0 [20:58] for how long did you try? [20:58] @v4vnc [], Is it normal [20:58] no, it's a kernel crash [20:59] @wxl [ no, it's a kernel crash], So what's the solution [21:00] no clue. that's very strange behavior. [21:15] @tsimonq2 [Because it's already delivering LXDE.], noted, will try the 18.10 [22:37] Hello