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didrocksgood morning07:36
ricotzgood morning desktopers08:00
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* ricotz wonders where is "Drowsy Donkey"08:01
didrockshey ricotz08:15
dufluHi didrocks, hi ricotz08:16
didrockshey duflu08:16
seb128good morning desktopers08:50
willcookemorning all08:56
willcookedidrocks, https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/commit/6598b156a7734fd59091aed4e00f11538190345b08:57
willcooke\o/ \o/ \o/08:57
seb128hey willcooke, already back on local tz?08:57
willcookeseb128, nearly.  Stupid day light savings now :((08:57
seb128haha08:57
Laneyhullo09:01
willcookemorning Laney09:01
didrockshey seb128, willcooke, nice!09:02
dufluHi seb128 and willcooke09:02
seb128hey Laney, duflu, lut didrocks09:02
dufluThis is weird. I can't build mutter while running Nvidia because it keeps crashing my kernel09:03
dufluOnly building is the problem09:03
willcookeyikes09:05
Laneyhey willcooke didrocks seb128 duflu09:08
dufluHi Laney09:08
dufluwillcooke, also IBM acquired RedHat09:08
dufluKind of past tense... it's a long process09:08
seb128that one feels weird to me09:10
seb128RH has solid results and is expensive, I didn't think they would be to buy09:10
seb128crazy capitalist world!09:11
dufluLess surprising than <latest overvalued socials site> being acquired09:11
duflu(insert your own)09:12
seb128well, those it's clear why they sell09:12
seb128turning a business that doesn't generate profits into a pile of cash09:12
seb128and the facebook&co who buy just have too much money and can afford to spend it to try to keep their lead, even if what they buy isn't successful at least it's not going to be competing with them09:13
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers09:14
dufluHi oSoMoN09:14
oSoMoNhey duflu09:15
Laneyffs09:16
Laneyupdate-manager just started while I was typing09:16
seb128stole focus?09:16
LaneyInstall Now was the active button, and pressing space selected it09:16
Laneyso now I'm installing updates, yay!09:16
seb128shrug09:16
seb128duflu, bug #1800277 doesn't look like one where we need to system details, do we?10:18
ubot5bug 1800277 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) ""chmod u-w ~/.ICEauthority" breaks login" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180027710:18
dufluseb128, I'm not spending enough time on it to be sure. It's just easier to track bugs without understanding them if they are tagged correctly. Hence apport helps10:20
seb128right, I'm unsure I like that way of triaging though, it's similar to what kernel is doing10:21
seb128you start by receiving a "please test the latest upstream kernel from <...>" even if from reading the description it should be clear what the issue is and that testing a new kernel has no point10:21
seb128like "please backport that commit" which is an obvious to triage issue10:21
dufluseb128, do whatever you like with it. My goal is for such bugs to not occupy my time, but also to not linger without such basic details10:22
seb128k, well I think it's rude to the submitter to "incomplete" a bug that has an useful description and isn't incomplete10:23
seb128anyway, I reopened it/commented10:23
seb128sorry for the noise10:23
dufluseb128, I did not suggest upstream because I was not sure the reporter has the correct package there. And upstream gets enough bogus reports from us, so I'm a bit cautious there10:28
dufluIt may be a Xorg issue...?10:29
dufluAlso, a large percentage of bugs end up being abandoned by the reporter. The fastest way to close those is to know which release it was relevant to and wait till EOL10:33
Trevinhoaloha10:54
dufluSelamat pagi, Trevinho10:55
oSoMoNgood morning Trevinho10:58
jibelthe dock is on top of the lock screen. Anyone's seen that before?11:09
xnoxjibel, i have had that during release week. andyrock was looking into that.11:11
xnoxjibel, for me, restarting gnome-shell "fixed it"11:11
jibelxnox, just the dock?11:11
xnoxjibel, yes.11:11
duflujibel, yes happened to me at least once. See also bug 176938311:17
ubot5bug 1769383 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu dock/launcher is shown on the lock screen" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176938311:17
dufluHuh. Gitlab is rejecting uploads. That's a good time to say good night11:18
willcookewoah12:02
willcookeseb128, do you remember a while back I said that all my home dir stuff had moved in to the "Templates" directory12:03
willcookeand we said it was probably because I mashed the keyboard12:03
willcookewell, it's done it again12:03
willcookeand I was doing expenses last time it happened I think12:03
willcookeand am doing so again12:03
willcookeI need to dig in to this12:03
oSoMoNexpensify easter egg?12:10
didrockscleanify12:11
willcooke:D12:43
seb128willcooke, do you dnd images from the desktop to expensify or something?13:01
willcookenah, but I use Gimp to grab screenshots from the credit card for actual transactions, so I wonder if it's something in Gimp13:03
seb128using gimp as a snap?13:10
jibel"something" keeps disabling my gnome-shell extensions. Any idea what could reset those?13:32
didrocksare they still listed in the gsettings key?13:33
seb128the lock screen is supposed to unload them and restore them, but that shouldn't change the config13:34
seb128do they keep being disabled after a session restart?13:34
seb128which I guess is basically Didier's question13:34
didrocksyep13:34
didrocksgsettings get org.gnome.shell enabled-extensions13:34
jibelyes13:34
jibelalso I need to unlock the session twice to unlock. On first attempt I get an aubergine screen without any widget, then on second attempt password field, buttons, labels are displayed.13:36
jibelit's really in a weird state.13:36
jibelI'll reboot13:36
seb128no13:36
seb128don't13:36
jibelok13:37
jibel:)13:37
seb128get Trevinho or andyrock to have a look while it's buggy13:37
seb128they might be able to get useful info out of the system while it's in this state13:37
seb128Trevinho, andyrock, ^ could you see if you can help debugging that problem? or at least get the info that could be useful for the bug report/working on it later?13:37
jibelargh13:38
jibeloct. 29 14:38:02 sark kernel: gnome-tweaks[10495]: segfault at f0 ip 00007f3ee211e102 sp 00007ffc9af35118 error 4 in libgdk-3.so.0.2400.1[7f3ee20ff000+78000]13:38
jibeloct. 29 14:38:02 sark kernel: Code: 89 df e8 61 3d fe ff e9 ad fd ff ff 66 66 2e 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 90 48 8b 87 f0 00 00 00 c3 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 31 c0 <48> 39 bf f0 00 00 00 0f 94 c0 c3 0f 1f 00 41 55 41 54 55 48 89 f513:38
jibeloct. 29 14:38:11 sark gnome-shell[6838]: JS ERROR: TypeError: windowActor is null13:38
jibelTrevinho, andyrock so in summary 2 issues, maybe related: 1. I need to unlock twice to unlock the session 2. After unlock the extensions are all disabled13:39
andyrockjibel: is dash-to-dock the only extension still enabled?13:41
andyrockjibel: if you can send us the full logs13:42
jibelandyrock, full log of what?13:47
jibelandyrock, that's all the extensions I have https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cHQRxBBPvG/13:48
andyrockjibel: journalctl13:48
jibelk, I'll file a bug and attach the logs13:48
jibeleasier than irc13:49
TrevinhoLooking also13:49
andyrockkk, I'll try to reproduce it using your current set of extensions13:49
andyrockbut after lunch13:49
jibelandyrock, Trevinho bug 1800475 and bug 180047714:07
ubot5bug 1800475 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "double unlock required to unlock the screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180047514:07
ubot5bug 1800477 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Extensions are disabled after unlocking the screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180047714:07
Laney~.14:14
Laneyooh14:14
Laneyit came back to life14:14
Trevinhossh cage?15:43
seb128Trevinho, ?15:51
Trevinhoseb128: as per l_aney's ~.15:51
seb128ah15:56
xnoxseb128, marked https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/1800297 invalid; `sudo` group means Admin on ubuntu.17:37
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1800297 in systemd (Ubuntu) "localectl updates /etc/default/locale without root privileges" [Undecided,Invalid]17:37
xnoxand that's what e.g. gnome account services (settings?!) and policykit use for admin/non-admin distinction.17:37
robert_ancellkenvandine, willcooke popey Wimpress anyone got anything for the g-s stakeholder meeting today?18:25
robert_ancellI've got nothing and nothing in the document18:26
popeyrobert_ancell: heya. I have one item. It's in one hour right?18:28
popeyJust having dinner and will add it.18:28
robert_ancellpopey, it is but happy to do it now if I can!18:28
robert_ancellok, sure18:28
popeySticky toffee pudding needs eating, sorry :)18:28
robert_ancellThat's not going to eat itself.18:28
kenvandinerobert_ancell: I'll be there, just having lunch now18:32
kenvandinepopey, robert_ancell: that was painful!19:47
popeyyeah, I dont want to refresh my browser now19:47
popeyoh, I had another thing I wanted to mention but it was offtopic for that call19:47
popeythunderbird snap keeps pestering me for an update. does it need rebuilding?19:47
kenvandineprobably19:47
popey(or can we suppress that in the snap)?19:48
popey(or both)19:48
kenvandinenot sure how to do that in thunderbird, but i'm sure there's a way19:48
kenvandinemozilla did something to firefox to do that19:48
kenvandinebut it was code, not in the snap packaging19:48
popeyit's an about:config setting i think19:49
kenvandineno, they added some logic19:49
kenvandineto determine if it was in a snap and disable it as needed19:49
popeyahh19:49
kenvandinewhich we can't do in thunderbird until the build is produced differently19:50
popeyIs there any progress with the thunderbird community?19:53
kenvandinepopey: not that i'm aware of19:53
kenvandinerobert_ancell: i just noticed the ratings are now properly showing up on the app tiles in the grid20:20
kenvandinethat didn't appear to be working on friday20:20
kenvandinemagic20:20
kenvandinepopey: i published rev 45 to candidate20:21
popey<320:21
kenvandinepopey: just track candidate for now20:21
robert_ancellkenvandine, oh, they only show up once the review server includes them in the stats - so you need to wait for the server to refresh that file and restart g-s.20:26
robert_ancellkenvandine, I proposed a fix that uses your review if you are the first reviewer (this is when you see it)20:27
kenvandineyeah, but on friday i wasn't seeing reviews i had created long before20:27
kenvandines/reviews/ratings/20:28
kenvandinemaybe it was just friday of a sprint and i was fried :)20:28

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