[00:12] <kronos003> has anyone else seen this? https://linux.slashdot.org/story/18/10/28/1859245/ibm-to-buy-red-hat-the-top-linux-distributor-for-34-billion ? wonder how many folks will jump ship to ubuntu
[00:13] <tgm4883> !ot | kronos003
[00:30] <aFeijo> hi folks, I have 2 files that are from my user, I've set it to chmod 7777, and yet I cannot move nor remove them. It is a VPS shared account.
[00:30] <aFeijo> how can I kill those bastards?
[00:43] <dbff2> My HDMI external display is not identified in my laptop
[00:43] <dbff2> I am using Nvidia-Driver 396
[00:44] <dbff2> help?
[00:44] <dbff2> Ubuntu 18.04
[02:18] <Mrokii> Hello. After trying to update 18.04 to 18.10 my system doesn't start anymore. I can't even get to the grub-menu. I started from a live-CD and tried to use chroot, but I didn't get that to work. The first question is: Is it normal that grub and grub2 is installed in the system? I thought it would be only one of both.
[02:18] <Mrokii> And I wonder if this is the root of the problem.
[02:21] <Mrokii> after using "dpgk --list | grep grub" I get five lines as output, including "grub-common" and "grub2-common".
[02:23] <Mrokii> Or can somebody help with trying to use grub-install properly? Maybe that is all that is needed.
[02:42] <snowveil> I'm running 16.04 and trying to upgrade to 18.04 or 18.10...Software Updater crashes when I try to run it, and the command "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" produces the following error...any thoughts?  https://pastebin.com/6Mkd6jeZ
[02:43] <cryptodan> snowveil: delete the duplicate repos in software sources
[02:48] <Mrokii> I'm trying chroot now and the instruction shows me a "debootstrap"-line. However it uses "i386" for "--arch", but I have an AMD-CPU. what do I need to use for that?
[02:48] <cryptodan> if amd 64 you can use amd64 or x86_64 I think
[02:49] <UBUXUBU> how much ram do u have
[02:54] <UBUXUBU> AMD support is still not completely reliable in Linux, although much work has been done in recent years. A general rule is that most modern AMD processors will work as long as you don’t need any AMD-specific features.
[02:55] <UBUXUBU> i am using amd64 cuz that 64 bit and im running a 64 bit intel platform
[02:55] <cryptodan> its not so much the processors they work fine generally but the newer ryzen ones need some modern kernel support and their amdgpu drivers need work
[02:55] <cryptodan> amd64 is the nomenclature for 64bit support
[02:56] <UBUXUBU> some of the oterh ones ran some really whacky dual graphics stuff that need a very specific driver from the computer manufacturer
[02:56] <UBUXUBU> and u had to use it even if it was way out a date and the manufcturer wasnt updating it
[03:00] <Bashing-om> Mrokii: IF MBR partitioning, I can help with installing grub. Please pastebin - from the liveUSB - ' sudo fdisk -lu ' so we know the target.
[03:02] <cryptodan> wouldnt sudo parted -l be better?
[03:03] <Bashing-om> cryptodan: either will work for what we need to know .
[03:09] <kantlivelong> trying to figure out a kerberos issue. get this rpc.gssd[405]: ERROR: No credentials found for connection to server xxxxxxx
[03:09] <kantlivelong> but i have the appropriate spn
[03:09] <kantlivelong> and if i remove the spn it mentions that it cant find it
[03:09] <kantlivelong> no issues w/ fedora client
[03:11] <kantlivelong> ssh auth works fine
[03:38] <adam4567> what recommendations for a desktop recorder? simplescreenrecorder is the first one that I notice. Need sound too I guess. Ant recoomendations? Ubuntu 16.04
[03:38] <adam4567> any recommendations, I mean ..
[03:39] <Ben64> adam4567: that's the best one i've found
[03:42] <adam4567> Ben64: Really? simplescreenrecorder? OK. Will PPA and give it a try. Small dual-core desktop here. Beaut.
[03:43] <Mrokii> Hello. I have tried to ues chroot to to update the grub config on a non-booting drive. However when I try to issue update-grub I get "grub-probe: error: can't find a device for / is /dev mounted?)"
[03:43] <Mrokii> Any hint on what could be wrong? I did mount /dev afaik.
[03:44] <bz-> is anyone aware of ubuntu 18.10 having issues with vmware?
[04:10] <clackety> Mrokii, what exactly do you mount before you chroot? do you have separate partitions or just a single root partition?  does the system boot using uefi?
[04:16] <Mrokii> clackety: I have one boot-partition and one home-partition, and there is a third (actually the first) partition on this HD with shows up as "unallocated" (around 9 MB big).
[04:18] <clackety> can you put your fstab in a pastebin or something, Mrokii
[04:18] <clackety> the fstab of the non-booting setup i mean
[04:29] <Mrokii> clackety: One momnet, I'm trying something atm.
[04:36] <RefractiveIndex> Hi, Is anyone having choppy video problems with Intel HD 520 in Ubuntu 18.04
[04:36] <RefractiveIndex> ?
[04:37] <RefractiveIndex> As in 1080p videos both online and on the PC.
[04:42] <MrAureliusR> is it a system with two GPUs?
[04:42] <MrAureliusR> for example, my machine has the Intel iGPU and an nVidia GPU separately
[04:42] <MrAureliusR> I used to get choppy video because the drivers weren't set up correctly
[05:04]  * alazy 
[05:17] <Mrokii> clackety: This is my fstab: https://pastebin.com/q2reMZ9h
[05:18] <clackety> Mrokii, mount / in /mnt, /home in /mnt/home, chroot to /mnt, and you should be able to update grub
[05:19] <clackety> i usually mount by /dev/sdX in this case cause i don't even recall how to mount by uuid lol
[05:20] <Mrokii> clackety: okay, I will try that, thanks.
[05:20] <Mrokii> clackety: Do I have all that stuff again, with mounting/link dev, sys and such?
[05:21] <clackety> the message you were seeing before, makes me think you weren't in the chroot environment correctly.  seemed like an error grub would throw when you try to update from the liveusb environment.  I could be wrong.
[05:37] <Mrokii> clackety: It looks as if update-grub is working now...
[05:44] <clackety> good sign Mrokii
[05:45] <Mrokii> I guess the next thing to try is to restart.
[05:50]  * clackety crosses fingers
[05:51] <Mrokii> clackety: *sigh* That didn't help... Still the same problem.
[05:52] <clackety> well, what specifically is the problem
[05:57] <Mrokii> clackety: right after the bios-screen a blinking white curosr appears. No grub-menu, nothing.
[05:57] <Mrokii> clackety: It happened at the first restart after upgrading von 18.04 to 18.10
[05:58] <Mrokii> So I assume that was the cause. That, or just coincidence, I don#t know
[05:58] <clackety> ah, I haven't used 18.10.  does bios show the ubuntu/grub option in the startup selection?
[05:59] <Mrokii> clackety: It shows the HD (at least on the bios-boot-menu, but not the boot-partition specifically, I think.
[06:00] <Mrokii> brb
[06:00] <clackety> i have to crash, I have class in like 6 hours :/  good luck, sorry I couldn't help further, Mrokii
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Mrokii
[06:02] <Mrokii> lotuspsychje: I will check that out asap, thanks.
[06:03] <Mrokii> clackety: No problem. Good night. And thanks.
[06:03] <Mrokii> away for about 15 minutes.
[06:20] <Mrokii> lotuspsychje: The black screen/white cursor thing happens right after the bios-screen. Could this problem happen so early?
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: blinking cursor at left upper corner?
[06:35] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: that sounds like bad uefi settings
[06:39] <Mrokii> lotuspsychje: lotuspsychje yet.
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: are you singlebooting or dualbooting?
[06:39] <Mrokii> lotuspsychje: But why would these appear after an upgrade of Ubuntu? I haven't changed anything in the bios.
[06:39] <Mrokii> lotuspsychje: Single.
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: is fastboot and secureboot disabled?
[06:41] <Mrokii> lotuspsychje: I don't know, I haven't done anything in the bios for years. I need to check at the next reboot.
[06:42] <Mrokii> I assumed that I had disabled these though. But I could be wrong. Plus, I was able to boot right before I upgraded.
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: this happened after upgrade 18.04 to 18.10?
[06:43] <Mrokii> yes
[06:43] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: can you still enter grub?
[06:44] <Mrokii> no, it doesn't seem so. I've tried holding down shift to get the grub menu, but the blinking cursor appears right away.
[06:45] <Mrokii> lotuspsychje: Fastboot is disabled in Bios. Haven't found secure boot yet.
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: even on borked installs you should be able to enter grub
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> hence why i think uefi
[06:46] <Mrokii> lotuspsychje: Is "Secure Boot" = "Trusted Computing"?
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: you should see things like uefi or legacy
[06:48] <Mrokii> lotuspsychje: I have something called "storage boot option control" with "legacy only" chosen.
[06:48] <Mrokii> lotuspsychje: Ah yes, there are two options for this, "UEFI" or "Legacy". And the latter is chosen.
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> weird, sounds like their set correctly
[06:49] <Mrokii> I might give that kernel-option a try and see if that helps anything.
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: kernel option you need to enter grub
[06:50] <drager> I just installed awesomeVM on my ubuntu 18.04 and when I open a terminal it's slow to type. Really laggy actually, any ideas?
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> drager: system up to date?
[06:51] <Mrokii> lotuspsychje: okay, here's something new. I just tried booting from the HD again, holding shift and now I get "GRUB" and a blinking cursor behind. No menu though.
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: can you test, if you can boot from an ubuntu liveusb to bypass that?
[06:52] <Mrokii> lotuspsychje: yes, booting from live CD works.
[06:53] <Mrokii> That's how I used chroot to try to update the grub options.
[06:53] <Mrokii> I guess I could use the same procedure to change that nomodeset-option. Or maybe even try to reinstall the nvidia drivers.
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: no way you could tty neither?
[06:55] <Mrokii> nope, the key-combination doesn't work. Nothing I can do when I boot from the HD.
[06:55] <drager> lotuspsychje: Yup, all the latest. If I use default ubuntu "gnome" all works fine. So not sure if it's an issue with awesome or not.
[06:55] <Mrokii> if all else fails I will make a backup of both partitions and just install 18.10 again. Home is on a different partition anyway.
[06:56] <drager> But haven't had this issue with awesome on other distros though
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: upgrade might be borked
[06:57] <Mrokii> Might be, yes.
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> drager: can you check if your gfx drivers are installed correctly?
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: how about booting an ubuntu usb and try to rescue your existing install
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: like installing 18.10 next to 18.04, keeping your /home
[06:59] <Mrokii> lotuspsychje: I thought it would be possible to just use the current boot-partition to install Ubuntu again, plus using the existing home-partition.
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: you can try that too
[06:59] <Mrokii> I mean, booting from the live CD and let it install the system cleanly on the existing boot-partition.
[06:59] <Mrokii> Anyhow, I will give the nomodeset-thing a try first.
[07:00] <drager> lotuspsychje: What would be the easiest way to do that?
[07:03] <drager> I have configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> drager: ubuntu-drivers list
[07:13] <Mrokii> lotuspsychje: Sorry to disturb you again, but for some reason I can't access the internet from within cnroot, even though I did a "sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc/resolv.conf" . Do you have any idea why that might not work?
[07:14] <Mrokii> so I can't install the nvidiad-drivers.
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: think your system is bad scrambled
[07:18] <Mrokii> Possibly.
[07:19] <drager> lotuspsychje: That gives me: nvidia-driver-390
[07:19] <Mrokii> I have (hopefully) activated the nomodeset-option and see what it does.
[07:21] <Mrokii> nope, didn't work. So I guess it's backup-time. I don't have any clue what else could check. :-(
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> drager: hmm ok, perhaps its an awesome issue
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> drager: maybe ask in the awesome channel?
[07:25] <lotuspsychje> Mrokii: i would go for the uubntu setup trick, takover your existing /home
[07:25] <drager> lotuspsychje: Yeah will do, thank you for the help!
[07:26] <Mrokii> lotuspsychje: That's what I planned on doing, as soon as I've done a backup.
[07:26] <pragomer> when using vinagre to connect to my windows-pc (tightvncserver) it works perfect. but when checking the box to save the password vinagre just hangs and does not (never) connect.
[07:26] <pragomer> any ideas what could be wrong?
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> pragomer: be carefullw ith vnc, its a big security flaw these days
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | pragomer
[07:27] <pragomer> its just in an internal LAN, not internet-connected
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> pragomer: ok, alternate you could try the remmina app
[07:29] <pragomer> will try different apps, no problem.
[07:29] <pragomer> I just remember that it worked on many distros with vinagre, but had this issue once before 1 year but dont knkow the solution
[07:30] <pragomer> mm... does remmina only know ssh?
[07:57] <radkos> if i want to send logs (filtered by program name) to external central rsyslog server do i need to define this into clients server or in central server 'programname, isequal, myprogram -?dynmyprogtemplate' is enough?
[08:23] <randominternetus> I have a really annoying issue on ubuntu 18.04 and gnome fallback. Problem is I think somehow on top priority of windows got screwed. sometimes I click on a window to show up and it doesn't cause another window blocks it.
[08:25] <EriC^> randominternetus: can you run "gsettings list-recursively | grep focus | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the link here?
[08:26] <randominternetus> EriC^, http://termbin.com/3sak
[08:27] <EriC^> this seems odd, "org.gnome.shell.overrides focus-change-on-pointer-rest true"
[08:28] <EriC^> sounds like it's supposed to focus if you rest the mouse over a window, does it do that?
[08:28] <grek69> hi i have in raid status 	active, degraded what is this ?
[08:28] <randominternetus> EriC^, and reset here means?
[08:28] <randominternetus> oh rest
[08:28] <randominternetus> nope.
[08:28] <randominternetus> it doesn't.
[08:28] <EriC^> oh
[08:28] <EriC^> did you try the guest session or another user?
[08:29] <randominternetus> No.
[08:29] <randominternetus> and I can't logout right now really.
[08:29] <EriC^> oh ok
[08:31] <randominternetus> Can't find anything related in gnome-tweaks either.
[08:32] <randominternetus> It might happen on pycharm only. I'm not sure.
[08:34] <EriC^> mmk
[08:36] <EriC^> open another program and see if it does it?
[08:50] <geodb27> People : hi ! I run a kubuntu 18.04 laptop, which has systemd. How can I identify a service that would clean-up /tmp after a certain service has been started ?
[08:56] <clobbies> i am executing a script as www-data, which is supposed to create a directory in a www-data owned dir, with normal 755 perms. But after the script runs the perms are d-wxrw---t?
[09:02] <EriC^> clobbies: paste the script
[09:18] <radkos> how can i read third program's log using rsyslog the version is 8.24 and imfile is not available module
[09:18] <radkos> i want to send this log to centralized log server
[09:34] <clobbies> EriC^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qvNxjfxcyH
[09:37] <clobbies> EriC^: currently it dies in line 84, caused by the incorrect directory perms set in line 83
[09:44] <Mrokii> Hello. I have an HD with two partitions (system-boot and home). Is it possible to use the installer from the Kubuntu-live disk to install a fresh System while also pointing it towards the existing home-folder?
[09:44] <hexer22> YeP
[09:47] <tomreyn> Mrokii: yes, this should work. you'll need to choose "something else" on the partitioning step and  then assign the existing partitions and make sure you set the /home one to not be formatted (alternatively you can not assign home at all there and change it after installation, but this is not as easy).
[09:48] <Mrokii> hexer22, tomreyn: Thank you. I am just starting from the CD and trying to make the necessary adjustments.
[09:50] <hexer22> Mrokii: plz inbox
[09:50] <asdfgh> apt update ---> FATAL -> Failed to fork.    WTF ??
[09:50] <asdfgh> (hello everybody)
[09:53] <eviladmin> Mrokii: what is a "system-boot" partition?
[09:55] <Mrokii> eviladmin: I was just expressing that this is the partition that contains the "old" system I booted from.
[09:56] <Mrokii> eviladmin: Probably redundant to say it both. :)
[09:56] <hexer22> eviladmin: something like ntfs , not mentioning partition format
[09:58] <hexer22> Mrokii: do u have a windows system ? For making a bootable drive
[09:59] <Mrokii> hexer22: Hm? Why would I need that? I have the regular live-CD.
[09:59] <hexer22> Mrokii: To install with a better options
[10:00] <Mrokii> hexer22: I think/hope the regular Kubuntu-installer will be fine.
[10:02] <hexer22> Mrokii: Well hope so
[10:02] <hexer22> Mrokii : when can we start ?
[10:03] <Mrokii> hexer22: What do you mean?
[10:03] <hexer22> Mrokii: I am a bit busy 2morrow
[10:03] <Mrokii> I already found the manual-options and chose the partitions. I think I'll be fine, thank you.
[10:04] <Mrokii> Just one more question: It's probably recommended to install the boot loader on the same disk, right?
[10:05] <hexer22> Yes
[10:05] <hexer22> I prefer grub
[10:06] <hexer22> Well no problems for the first para
[10:08] <Mrokii> hexer22: Thanks again.
[10:09] <hexer22> Mrokii: No problem
[10:11] <radkos> any idea on how to escape ^M kinda characters in rsyslog
[10:11] <radkos> any rsyslog option to enable/disable?
[10:12] <eviladmin> don't put them in there to begin with
[10:12] <eviladmin> aka don't use \r\n line endings
[10:12] <radkos> i am not the program by itself is
[10:12] <radkos> while sending thru omrelp newlines are being preformatted with such chars
[10:12] <damex> hello, is there some known date when we might get HWE for 18.04 ?
[10:13] <radkos> is there any way to do other than making the output based on template
[10:13] <Ben64> damex: july
[10:14] <Ben64> wait, maybe november
[10:15] <damex> hmmm... november?
[10:15] <Ben64> yes
[10:15] <tomreyn> february from what i read :)
[10:15] <damex> i am planning when to upgrade kernel on my ubuntu boxes, if it is november - i might hold off
[10:16] <Ben64> might show up in -edge next month
[10:16] <damex> is there some wiki page or something with a plan related to adding HWE?
[10:16] <Ben64> what problem are you trying to solve here
[10:17] <clobbies> found it, perl mkdir takes a 4 digit permission parameter instead of a 3 digit one
[10:17] <tomreyn> Ben64: you know anything better than the "Feb 2019" here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Support?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=18.04.x+Ubuntu+Kernel+Support+Schedule.svg
[10:18] <Ben64> that would be for the normal hwe
[10:18] <tomreyn> Ben64: as in not --wdge?
[10:18] <tomreyn> Ben64: as in not -edge?
[10:19] <Ben64> right
[10:19] <tomreyn> makes sense, thanks.
[10:20] <Mrokii> So far, so good. My desktop is back like it was before. :) A lot of apps need to be installed but all the data seems to be there.
[10:21] <Ben64> 2018-04-13 12:00:26 install linux-image-4.15.0-13-generic:amd64 <none> 4.15.0-13.14~16.04.1
[10:22] <Ben64> according to the chart, i shouldn't have had 4.15 until August
[10:26] <tomreyn> yes it'd be great if this chart and the ReleaseSchedule documents could get updated more regularly.
[10:27] <tomreyn> (esp. in regards to hwe)
[10:30] <Ben64> tomreyn: they're editable :D
[10:30] <tomreyn> "Please do not edit"
[10:31] <tomreyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
[10:31] <Ben64> that's editable too
[10:31] <tomreyn> :-P
[10:31] <Ben64> if one has some definitive info to add to it i can't see why not
[10:32] <Ben64> the hwe page is very 16.04 centric, might need to fix that soon
[10:32]  * tomreyn has no definitive info to add
[10:33] <CoolGuy> Hi there
[10:33] <Ben64> i have a few pages on my list to edit, just need time
[10:33] <tomreyn> sure, didnt mean to complain ;)
[10:33] <tomreyn> hi CoolGuy
[10:34] <CoolGuy> Hi Tom
[10:34] <CoolGuy> I need help please
[10:35] <tomreyn> !ask | CoolGuy
[10:36] <CoolGuy> I wish to download a complete website on my hard disk to offline reading. I tried with wget. It worked fine but it is not downloading after resuming 3/4t h time even by using -c flag. Is there any web ripping utility which have pause and resume feature please?
[10:39] <attie> hi. I turned off my machine and now it won't boot again. How can I show the boot log? removing the quiet and splash options from grub menu does not help, they take effect too late, it seems my boot hangs earlier than that.
[10:39] <gpunk> wget is the best, but you might find FF extension that do that
[10:39] <tomreyn> CoolGuy: i'm not certain whether httrack offers this but it has a more scraping like feature set.
[10:39] <gpunk> but many times, websites are secured o you cant do that
[10:41] <hexer22> gpunk: hi
[10:41] <gpunk> :)
[10:41] <CoolGuy> tomreyn: Yes i have played with httrack too, but its functionality and GUI is bit complex. I tried too with it by pause and resume, but failed to download the site.
[10:42] <deadcyph3r> httrack it worked fine for me
[10:42] <tomreyn> CoolGuy: as gpunk suggested this can be due to restrictions the website maintainer enforces, such as rate limiting.
[10:42] <tomreyn> CoolGuy: scraping is a matter of much debate. some websites declare what's acceptabe to them.
[10:43] <deadcyph3r> but httrack doesnot download https sites
[10:45] <CoolGuy> deadcyph3r : so, is there any utility to download https sites please?
[10:47] <tomreyn> attie: normally with quiet and nosplash removed you would get to see output. alternatively, you can boot into recovery, drop to a root shell and review journalctl + dmesg
[10:47] <attie> tomreyn: recovery boot only gives me an aubergine screen too
[10:47] <deadcyph3r> so i didn't tried anything like that
[10:48] <tomreyn> CoolGuy: https://www.httrack.com/html/faq.html#QT3
[10:48] <tomreyn> attie: which ubuntu version is this?
[10:48] <attie> 17.10
[10:48] <tomreyn> !17.10 | attie
[10:49] <attie> yes, I know
[10:49] <tomreyn> attie: well it'd be kind to point out that you're asking about a non  supported release when requesting support here.
[10:49] <hexer22> Oh no
[10:49] <Mr_Pan> !eol
[10:49] <attie> pretend it's 18.04, what is the magic word to print the boot log?
[10:50] <deadcyph3r> hey it says it works with https too
[10:50] <deadcyph3r> sorry i was not updated
[10:50] <attie> it's not like I can update if it doesn't boot
[10:51] <CoolGuy> Thank you tomreyn
[10:53] <tomreyn> attie: you can try recovering it from a booted 17.10 installer / live iso's by chrooting into the existing installation (i have no plans to guide you through this) or you can install a supported ubuntu release.
[10:55] <attie> tomreyn: 16.04 is supported?
[10:57] <CoolGuy> Today i will retry with httrack for pause and resume
[10:57] <tomreyn> attie: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[10:58] <tomreyn> also shown graphically here https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
[10:59] <quem> hey
[10:59] <quem> just upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04. now quite a bit of my console is outside the display. any idea?
[11:00] <tomreyn> quem: can you take a photo and share it online?
[11:01] <gpunk> quem: to you have a button on your monitor that says "autio" ?
[11:01] <gpunk> auto*
[11:01] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:02] <quem> gpunk: yeah, i've tried that. doesn't help unfortunately.
[11:02] <tomreyn> quem: also discuss your the parameters you pass to the kernel (and modules) and your hardware (architecture, graphics card, special parts)
[11:05] <gpunk> and monitor model/make if applicable
[11:08] <quem> 01:00.1 VGA compatible controller: Matrox Electronics Systems Ltd. MGA G200EH
[11:08] <quem> model name      : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU G1610T @ 2.30GHz
[11:08] <quem> BenQ G2420HD
[11:08] <quem> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-38-generic
[11:14] <gpunk> maybe mga is not supported anymore, and it is falling back to vesa
[11:14] <gpunk> can you run this please lshw -C display ?
[11:19] <gpunk> it is better to use https://paste.ubuntu.com , for the others to see it too :)
[11:20] <tomreyn> quem: you may need to comment in WaylandEnable=false in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
[11:25] <quem> there's no /etc/gdm3, which makes sense i guess, since i don't use any graphical interface on the machine
[11:25] <quem> gpunk: ah. :)
[11:28] <gpunk> you can try rebooting with modeset=off
[11:30] <gpunk> mgag200.modeset=0 to be precise
[11:31] <gpunk> as a kernel command line ...
[11:52] <quem> gpunk: that did the trick. thank you for your time! :)
[11:52] <gpunk> ;)
[12:10] <vincenzoml> Hi there. Is there a way to make the mouse scroll wheel a bit faster? I'm getting tendinitis
[12:10] <vincenzoml> In ubuntu 18.10
[12:17] <guest> in mouse settings you can change the number of lines scrolled per "click"
[12:32] <vincenzoml> guest which mouse settings? In gnome-shell I only have mouse speed and it's also disabled.
[12:59] <gc> Hello! I'm trying to install ubuntu server 16.04 on an OpenBSD vm; this is fairly equivalent to a qemu installation. The installation is via serial console, which I achieved by editing the .iso as shown in (https://github.com/ynkjm/ubuntu-serial-install). Now, in the installation process, after partitioning the disk, I get stuck at "Install the system"; the error: "The failing step is: Install the system" is unhelpful, and so are Google r
[12:59] <gc> (e.g., https://askubuntu.com/questions/972917/ubuntu-server-16-04-lts-installation-step-failed). Any help on how I can debug this?
[13:03] <m1chael> I was using VirtualBox yesterday on Linux Mint 18 (understandably not ubuntu exactly). the PC froze immedietely after starting the VM. The computer now will not boot without going in to BIOS and manually selecting the drive to boot. (the boot process also looks differently now, larger logo, strange looking) but the PC does end up booting correctly. any ideas what might went wrong and what i can do to fix this? when the PC doesn't
[13:03] <m1chael> boot right, it stays at a black screen
[13:05] <tootoffifee> are you all robot?
[13:06] <blackflow> yes.
[13:06] <tootoffifee> lol
[13:06] <blackflow> m1chael: did you perchance give the VM your actual disk partitions as disk image? and where does ubuntu come into play here?
[13:08] <m1chael> backflow, no, virtual box uses the default dynamic file disk. the issue is the main host PC now will not boot. (linux mint 18)
[13:09] <blackflow> m1chael: in which case probably unrelated to the VM?
[13:09] <blackflow> (and for mint issues please see their respective support channel)
[13:09] <m1chael> unless i choose the hard drive specifically in bios (the hard drive is set as a default boot disk).. nothing has changed.. the only thing is that this issue came up after virtualbox froze and i reboot
[13:10] <m1chael> OK.
[13:17] <tomreyn> gc: it's not clear which installer you're using exactly.
[13:18] <tomreyn> gc: installations are logged, if you can switch to a tty and have a look at /var/log or /target/var/log should get a better idea of what is failing.
[13:18] <BluesKaj> !mint  | m1chael
[13:22] <gc> tomreyn: "normal" installer (as opposed to "live") -- or I'm not sure what you mean by which installer. /target/var/log doesn't exist. /var/log/syslog gives "error: exiting on error base-installer/no_codename", but again Google doesn't help
[13:24] <tomreyn> gc: what's the name of the installer iso file you downloaded?
[13:24] <tomreyn> did oyu verify its checksum?
[13:25] <gc> tomreyn: ubuntu-16.04.5-server-amd64.iso, but I had to modify it to get serial console installation (https://github.com/ynkjm/ubuntu-serial-install) so the checksum will probably fail
[13:25] <solsTiCe> can I open an ecryptfs volume with just the password I used to use to login ?
[13:26] <vincenzoml> hey I just tried to write a file larger than 4gb to a vfat device. Ok, it said "file too large" but then the cp process also hanged, and the only way to get rid of it was to reboot the machine... how is that.
[13:26] <vincenzoml> ?
[13:27] <tomreyn> gc: you can still do a 'media test' from grub menu (not sure you can access it via serial with the modifications you applied)
[13:27] <tomreyn> 'check disk for defects' or something
[13:29] <gc> tomreyn: "Check the CD-ROM(s) integrity"? Yep, it fails "is not a valid Ubuntu CD-ROM"; I suppose that's because of the changes I made (e.g., checksum will always fail), or does it depend on something else?
[13:30] <solsTiCe> once I have recovered my encrypted home data to another encrypted luks partition. What steps do i need to take to clean the ecryptfs stuff. removeing .ceryptfs and .private is enough ?
[13:31] <tomreyn> gc: i have to admit i'm not sure what it does exactly. i was thinking it validated checksums of many files and compares them against a list which comes with it. so i guess one of these files is one of those you edited, then it's indeed not useful.
[13:32] <tomreyn> gc: you can try asking in #ubuntu-server, maybe you can get more insight there.
[13:32] <gc> tomreyn: thanks for your help:) I will
[13:32] <tomreyn> gc: note also that https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/ch05s03.html states "If you are booting with a serial console, generally the kernel will autodetect this."
[13:35] <gc> tomreyn: true, but unfortunately it does not, or at least nothing shows on my serial console before changes :/
[13:36] <solsTiCe> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Mount%20Passphrase all I needed
[13:43] <Someguy123> ugh
[13:44] <Someguy123> I can't unmount a partition for some reason
[13:44] <Someguy123> I have /dev/sda1 mounted onto /proxmox/boot/efi
[13:44] <Someguy123> for whatever reason, that folder disappeared, and now umount refuses to unmount it
[13:44] <gpunk> do fuser /dev/sda1 and fuser /proxmox/boot/efi
[13:44] <Someguy123> umount: /proxmox/boot/efi: not mounted.
[13:45] <Someguy123> gpunk: both return nothing
[13:45] <tomreyn> gc: also note that the debian-installer (which i the installer you're using is based on) has a menu option to 'store debug logs'. you may need to hit escape a couple times from within the installer to get to the topmost installer menu where you can choose this option.
[13:45] <gpunk> recreate the folder
[13:45] <Someguy123> I did
[13:45] <Someguy123> that didn't help
[13:45] <Someguy123> nor did mounting it again and trying to unmount it
[13:45] <Someguy123> it shows up clearly in `mount`
[13:45] <Someguy123> but it's adamant that it doesn't exist
[13:46] <Someguy123> using -f also offers no assistance
[13:46] <tomreyn> time to reboot, Someguy123
[13:46] <gpunk> snif
[13:46] <Someguy123> lsof shows no signs that the folder is actually used by anything
[13:47] <Someguy123> nor the physical device or partition
[13:47] <Someguy123> yeah something seeming went horribly wrong and I feel like I'm going to be forced to reboot, and then reset up my chroot
[13:47] <Someguy123> it's a live ubuntu recovery environment
[13:48] <tomreyn> maybe you mounted something inside the chroot but something else outside of it
[13:49] <Someguy123> tomreyn: nope, I chcked inside the chroot
[13:49] <tomreyn> and didnt ensure this would cater over to the other side.
[13:49] <Someguy123> it's not mounted
[13:49] <Someguy123> that was the problem
[13:49] <Someguy123> I was trying to unmount boot so I could mount it within the chroot
[13:49] <Someguy123> and it complained boot didn't exist
[13:49] <Someguy123> I then figured out it was related to the efi folder
[13:49] <Someguy123> so I tried to unmount that, with no luck
[13:50] <Someguy123> both show up within `mount` so I have no clue why it's upset
[13:50] <Someguy123> possibly a bug with vfat or something
[13:50] <tomreyn> whatever happened, it'll be better to do it again from a clean slate.
[13:50] <Someguy123> yeah, it seems something is horribly wrong with the boot mount, so I guess I'll reboot and try to re-do the chroot
[13:50] <tomreyn> if you can reproduce it, note down the details.
[13:51] <Someguy123> I had used debootstrap, installed grub (maybe that wiped out the efi folder or something) from chroot,
[13:51] <Someguy123> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS"
[13:52] <Someguy123> it's the ubuntu recovery environment from MAAS
[13:52] <Someguy123> so it might be a little outdated, I'm not sure
[14:15] <bfdi533> I have a Dell Precision 7710 and am trying to install Linux.  I keep getting hardware lockup issues.  I think it is the video driver as the second monitor detection also causes a lockup.
[14:16] <bfdi533> Additionally the screen lock causes a hardware lock up.
[14:16] <bfdi533> I have a what Dell calls a hybrid video setup and the second (discreet) video gpu is an Intel.
[14:17] <bfdi533> Can anyone point me in a direction on how to get proper kernel/video driver setup so I can keep the system from locking up?
[14:17] <bfdi533> BTW, trying to install 18.04 LTS.
[14:17] <antimatroid> I'm trying to test how many clients can connect to some tcp server code I am using. I need a new process for each client connecting, and I'm hitting a limit of 16048 clients connected before I can't open any more processes. Is there a way to increase the number of processes I can have open? I've tried editing /etc/security/limits.conf for both root and user to increase nproc both soft and hard..
[14:18] <gpunk> bfdi533 , do the installation with one monitor
[14:18] <antimatroid> I'm going to hit a limit with memory once I get to about 23000 clients on this machine anyway though, but would be nice to test up to there.. I have been able to connect more clients from another machine as well to check that the 16000 limit is definitely from the machine the clients are connecting from, not where the server code is running
[14:19] <bfdi533> gpunk, I have done the install with single monitor.  it is after install that I get the lockups.  about 25% of time I connect external monitor I get a lockup.
[14:20] <bfdi533> gpunk, also after a) system runs some time with inactivity or b) screen sleeps then I also get a lock up.
[14:20] <gpunk> you have and intel gpu + ? gpu
[14:21] <OerHeks> that 7710 gives a touch screen
[14:22] <OerHeks> Quadro M3000M
[14:22] <bfdi533> gpunk AMD radeon
[14:22] <bfdi533> OerHeks, no touch screen on Precision 7710
[14:22] <bfdi533> AMD radeon is the onboard GPU and the Intel is secondary
[14:24] <bfdi533> gpunk, precisely I have a) Intel Pro P580 and AMD Radeon HD 8890M
[14:26] <gpunk> what ubuntu are you on ?
[14:26] <acresearch> hello people, since yesterday i have been trying to install ToupLite: http://www.touptek.com/download/showdownload.php?lang=en&id=28     which installs successfully but does not run,,,   anyone knows how i can fix it, if i can find it in a more reliable format, or an alternative?
[14:26] <bfdi533> 18.04LTS
[14:27] <leftyfb> acresearch: you'll have to contact Touptek for support. Since their software is not available in the official Ubuntu repositories, it is not supported.
[14:29] <gpunk> bfdi533: can you run this ? lshw -C display
[14:32] <bfdi533> gpunk, yes, just a minute.  AFK for about 5 minutes and I will then provide output
[14:32] <alephnull> I'm trying to get cosmic on an old x61s. I have created a bootable USB drive using unetbootin, dd and bootiso and I cannot get the disk to boot.
[14:32] <OerHeks> acresearch, yesterday i gave you an URL with more recent debs, thier code is old and needs heavily tweaking
[14:32] <OerHeks> !logs
[14:32] <alephnull> I can see a flash of isolinux and then a boot failure.
[14:37] <bfdi533> gpunk, here is output:
[14:37] <bfdi533>   *-display                         description: VGA compatible controller        product: Venus XTX [Radeon HD 8890M / R9 M275X/M375X]        vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0        version: 83        width: 64 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller cap_list rom        configuration: driver=radeon latency=0        resources
[14:38] <gpunk> and "ubuntu-drivers" ?
[14:39] <gpunk> ubuntu-drivers list i ment
[14:39] <gpunk> then ubuntu-drivers  devices
[14:42] <bfdi533> The two drivers are:
[14:42] <bfdi533>        product: Venus XTX [Radeon HD 8890M / R9 M275X/M375X]        vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
[14:42] <bfdi533>        product: Iris Pro Graphics P580        vendor: Intel Corporation
[14:42] <bfdi533> "ubuntu-drivers devices" produces no output
[14:46] <gpunk> hmm seams like your GPU is supported by amdgpu driver
[14:46] <gpunk> but your ubuntu doesnt say it
[14:49] <acresearch> leftyfb: i contacted them, but no answer till now
[14:50] <leftyfb> acresearch: ok. Good luck.
[14:50] <acresearch> OerHeks: yes, but i could not find any of them in the apt repos
[14:51] <g105b> I'm looking for a DE that doesn't take up an inch of space at the top of my screen. Unity (R.I.P.) did this very well and I'm not aware of another DE that works in this way. Unity style local menus with a top bar that doesn't take up space when a window is maximised. Suggestions?
[14:52] <gpunk> xfce ?
[14:52] <acresearch> xfce is good, but needs heavy tweaking, and i don't know of a way to backup the environment after it is setup
[14:52] <rory> gpunk: Come chat in #ubuntu-offtopic - I would recommend MATE for your purupose.
[14:53] <acresearch> gpunk: gnome is similar to unity from my point of view in terms of screen space too
[14:53] <rory> gpunk: download and try out Ubuntu MATE - it has a tool called MATE Tweak which has a few preset panel arrangements - one of them will likely suit you. If not you can manually rearrange
[14:53] <gpunk> it s not for me , but for g105b acresearch
[14:53] <rory> sorry
[14:53] <acresearch> ^ g105b
[14:53] <rory> your names are so similar and also the same colour on my end
[14:53] <acresearch> and both start with G making tab autocomplete confusing haha
[14:54] <gpunk> :)
[14:54] <g105b> I ain't no punk
[14:54] <gpunk> i aint no number
[14:55] <g105b> acresearch: when I maximise anything in gnome there is a top bar, then the application's title bar, then the file-edit-view menu before the window contents... I don't like that.
[14:57] <g105b> If anyone could suggest how to tweak gnome, that'd be great, but I can't figure out how to even start.
[14:58] <acresearch> g105b: i personally hide the menu
[14:58] <acresearch> from view
[14:58] <acresearch> i don't think i can do that on all application, but at least the applications that i use 90% of the time  (fire fox, gedit, terminal, files)
[14:59] <g105b> I see. Can you hide the top bar too?
[14:59] <acresearch> g105b: some applications yes,   yes for terminal and firefox
[15:00] <acresearch> i firefox mght get buggy if you do (from experience)   or it may not behave as expected
[15:00] <acresearch> try and see
[15:00] <g105b> I mean the top bar of Gnome, with the clock and indicators?
[15:02] <acresearch> g105b: hmmm i am not sure
[15:02] <bloony> I've got a server setup where I can only login with key pairs on ssh and I havn't set a password.. but when I try to run chsh to switch to zsh I get a password prompt.. tried just hitting enter, but getting PAM: authentication failed
[15:02] <acresearch> you can in xfce, you can right out delete
[15:02] <acresearch> it
[15:02] <g105b> I might try xfce but it looks a bit like 2003.
[15:03] <acresearch> g105b: and behaves like that too, but some people life the retro feel,  it is not exotic, but dam well functional
[15:05] <g105b> I'll give it a try, but I've grown out of editing config files all day.
[15:05] <g105b> So I have little patience.
[15:06] <acresearch> g105b: the problem with xfce is the lack of config files,,,, config files you can edit and backup to restore when you updgrade/reformat,   but here everything is GUI which is very difficult to backup
[15:06] <acresearch> i can share with you my setup, it is a bit stylish so will not look like 1999
[15:07] <g105b> How can you share the setup if there are no config files?
[15:07] <acresearch> g105b: the steps
[15:08] <g105b> Oh I see. Surely they are stored somewhere?
[15:12] <acresearch> g105b: https://hastebin.com/ihicanabej.md     mind you these notes are for myself,    so X mean "off" and / means "on"
[15:12] <acresearch> the first line are one big single command
[15:15] <spacemanspiff> I'm having trouble booting into Ubuntu (or any modern distro) on my HP ProDesk 400 G4. Legacy boot is the only option available. When I create an 18.04, Debian 9, Fedora 28 USB stick using 'dd', my computer will not see the drive. The only thing I've been able to get to work is CentOS 6. Has something changed in modern images that would cause legacy boot to break?
[15:16] <g105b> Thanks, I'll give it a try and see how it feels. I think what I'm looking for will inevitably come down to qualitative rather than categorical functionality.
[15:16] <acresearch> spacemanspiff: try antergos
[15:16] <acresearch> g105b: i agree
[15:18] <gpunk> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/545/hide-top-bar/   :)
[15:18] <gpunk> if you wanna stay/try gnome3
[15:20] <gpunk> or search "top bar" at https://extensions.gnome.org
[15:23] <gpunk> gnome-shell-extension-autohidetopbar is available natively in ubuntu
[15:35] <spacemanspiff> No luck with the Antergos USB. The system sees my SDD with CentOS 6, but not the USB.
[15:36] <ioria> spacemanspiff, probably has to do with some disks setup (dynamic/raid vs basic/ahci)
[15:38] <g105b> thanks gpunk
[15:38] <gpunk> :)
[15:39] <spacemanspiff> ioria: Wouldn't disk setup fail for every distro?
[15:39] <ioria> spacemanspiff, yes
[15:40] <ioria> spacemanspiff, i mean...  idk how Centos installer works and what is able todetect
[15:42] <ioria> spacemanspiff, i suggest a bios settings checkup
[15:44] <gpunk> and/or bios upgrade if possible
[15:54] <cyp3d> is php7.2 ever going to be available in apt on ubuntu 16.04?
[15:54] <cyp3d> seems that php7.0 is the only one and is EOL in December.
[15:55] <OerHeks> cyp3d, no, so use a trusted ppa, or upgrade to 18.04 perhaps?
[15:56] <vlt> cyp3d: Security related fixes usually get backported to earlier versions in LTS.
[15:57] <cyp3d> so the php7.0 default in the LTS will be getting further fixes even past php support?
[15:58] <vlt> cyp3d: You could check the version history of that package. The name might still be "7.0" but not the same version anymore.
[15:58] <OerHeks> fixes yes, features no, if i understand LTS right
[16:00] <vlt> cyp3d: Yes, OerHeks described it well. If you want *features* of 7.2 you'd have to install explicetely that. If your main concern is security after 7.0's EOL you should be fine. Double-check the package history.
[16:01] <vlt> cyp3d: There's `ubuntu-support-status`.
[16:03] <OerHeks> ondrej gives 7.2 or 7.3 rc4 https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/ubuntu/php/+index?field.series_filter=xenial
[16:04] <cyp3d> thanks guys I think security is our main concern atleast at this point so this is reassuring
[16:24] <lolcat-007> hello, how can i change the netflix region? i mean how can i watch american netflix?
[16:24] <gpunk> go to america :p
[16:24] <teward> lolcat-007: only way would be a VPN or proxy into the US, but most of those VPNs are known and blocked by Netflix.
[16:24] <gpunk> they probably filter IPs
[16:24] <teward> Alternatively, go to the USA.
[16:25] <lolcat-007> hahahaha
[16:25] <gpunk> if you have a freind there, he could make for an improvised vpn server
[16:25] <lolcat-007> so is not possible to change region
[16:25] <lolcat-007> ?
[16:26] <teward> lolcat-007: not really, no.
[16:26] <OerHeks> yes, but that would be illegal
[16:26] <gpunk> no
[16:26] <teward> lolcat-007: any other method to bypass that is so deep in the grey area of legality that it'd be ill adviseid to attempt.
[16:26] <jink> OerHeks: "hahahaha"
[16:27] <cyp3d> find someone with a gigabit connection who will do openvpn for u :)
[16:27] <teward> and you'd need someone US-side on, say, a residential IP to run a VPN gateway/proxy for you to connect through, and that has its own 'problems' as well
[16:27] <cyp3d> the biggest problem is that most ISPs are limited on upload, usually like 30 mbps bandwidth
[16:29] <lolcat-007> wow, it is very complicated
[16:29] <lolcat-007> back in the day it wasnt like that
[16:29] <gpunk> not complicated but heavy
[16:30] <lolcat-007> gpunk: by the way gpunk do you listen to punk music
[16:30] <lolcat-007> ?
[16:30] <gpunk> no really
[16:30] <gpunk> i listen to this www.ancientfm.com
[16:30] <lolcat-007> gpunk: i mean if you like punk music
[16:31] <teward> !offtopic | lolcat-007, gpunk
[16:31] <lolcat-007> cause i do
[16:31] <gpunk> i dont sorry :p
[16:31] <lolcat-007> :)
[16:35] <josefig> good morning, I have a doubt, I'm trying to install ltsp-server-standalone but I'm getting this error like umet dependencies but I don't know how to solve it, this is the log https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xDDT8yBxj3/
[16:37] <gpunk> josefig: ubuntu version ?
[16:37] <gpunk> what if you install explicitly openbsd-inetd ?
[16:38] <josefig> gpunk: Ubuntu Server - bionic 18.04 LTS
[16:38] <tgm4883> josefig: Do you have the universe repository enabled?
[16:38] <tgm4883> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[16:38] <josefig> tgm4883: let me check
[16:40] <nprice> Running 18.04 server and I'm having an interesting behaviour - moved some NICs around and updated my netplan config to reflect the change. When I boot the machine, the new interface gets the correct static IP, but the moment I plug the old interface into *anything*, it immediately takes over that IP and routes change accordingly. I've tried also assigning the old interface a static IP, but it
[16:40] <nprice> still behaves the same way as soon as the link comes up. Anyone have any ideas?  Looked at /etc/network/interfaces as well, but it's all empty.
[16:40] <nprice> The IP from the new interface is literally removed and added to the old interface the moment the link comes up
[16:40] <nprice> Even if it's already got a static IP
[16:41] <josefig> tgm4883: Thank you, that was the problem.
[16:41] <tgm4883> josefig: yw
[16:49] <kylefox> I just ordered a Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition and am very excited to make the transition from macOS to Ubuntu. But I'm wondering — is there actually anything special about the "Developer Edition" that enables Ubuntu?
[16:49] <kylefox> It looks like the hardware is the same as the normal (non-developer) XPS models. Anyone know?
[16:50] <TJ-> nprice: when you move the NICs about are you hot-plugging, or doing a reboot ?
[16:50] <TJ-> nprice: netplan causes config files to be generated under /run/systemd/network/ on boot, so if they're still there that might explain it
[16:51] <TJ-> kylefox: I think it is supposed to signal that all the hardware is supported by F/OSS drivers
[16:52] <kylefox> Yeah, for sure. Which is a big selling point for me. But it kinda looks like it's the same hardware in all the models anyway 😂
[16:52] <kylefox> I suppose the difference is that if I buy the one with Ubuntu pre-installed, they're more willing to support Ubuntu-related issues I might encounter.
[16:53] <nprice> TJ - even with a static IP assigned, it looks like dhcpcd had a cached address for that interface in /etc/dhcpcd.conf - netplan and cloud-init were working properly but dhcpcd was overriding everything
[16:53] <nprice> grepped everything in /etc for the interface name lol
[16:53] <TJ-> kylefox: a few years ago a couple of the Dell Linux devs used to be quite active in Ubuntu packaging and IRC but I've not noticed them recently
[16:53] <TJ-> nprice: it wouldn't be in /etc/ it if is being generated by netplan; it'll be under /run/
[16:54] <nprice> TJ- like I said, it wasn't netplan after all though
[16:54] <nprice> haha
[16:54] <nprice> dhcpcd gone rogue
[16:55] <TJ-> nprice: Oh, sorry, I totally missed your comment!
[16:58] <katamo> kylefox I can answer questions on Dell Sputnik but my knowledge is ~1yr out of date
[16:59] <katamo> kylefox they make a point to keep the windows & linux hardware configuration identical except for blacklisting biometric devices on linux OS(es) and pushing intel wifi over atheros etc more often
[17:05] <kylefox> Right, the fingerprint reader is not present on the linux config
[17:06] <TJ-> kylefox: i've never seem much use in the FP reader; the only sane use of it is as a replacement for typing/selecting your username. It's not secure as a password substitute
[17:07] <kylefox> Yeah, I have one on my MacBook Pro. The only thing it's been useful for, really, is unlocking my computer from sleep and unlocking 1Password after boot. But I can easily live without both of those uses.
[17:11] <TJ-> kylefox: I prefer something less obvious for multi-factor; I quite like the pam-bluetooth module; a particular BT device has to be within range for PAM to authenticate (e.g. BT + password, or BT + yubikey)
[17:12] <kylefox> yeah, that's cool.
[17:12] <TJ-> It's shame most PCs don't have NFC because the YubiKey Neo with NFC is very convenient
[17:13] <TJ-> I bought a USB NFC dongle especially but it's a bit of a kludge and unweildy for ultra-portables
[17:18] <Rockwood> i wanna setup GCC/MSVC toolchain on my ubuntu
[17:50] <Guma> I just reinstalled my server and desktops to 18.04. I was wondering if there is a way to point all my desktops to my server for updates? The ideas is that I want all my desktops update to latest what is on server in order to keep my desktops on same level.
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> Guma: think the #ubuntu-server channel might be more of help on that
[17:52] <Guma> lotuspsychje Thank you. Will take it there
[17:55] <josefig> Hi, I have installed Ubuntu server 18.04 for LTSP server, I already installed everything but there's left the dnsmasq  someone has information how to set it up with 2 NICs ?
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> josefig: join #ubuntu-server mate for better/specific help
[17:56] <josefig> lotuspsychje: oh I didn't know there was a server channel, thanks!
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> josefig: welcome ; )
[18:21] <nacc_> cyp3d: what was your question re: php?
[18:22] <cyp3d> just about support for php7.0 in ubuntu16
[18:22] <nacc_> cyp3d: ah ok, i think your questionw as probably the same as https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php7.0/+question/675535 ?
[18:25] <OerHeks> fixes, not features, unless there is a valid SRU https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[18:26] <nacc> OerHeks: and, tbc, given there aren't going to be a lot of bugfixes, security fixes only most likely once 7.0 goes eol upstream
[18:37] <gdibass> Anyone have experience getting Ubuntu 18.04 on a Touchbar Macbook pro?
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> gdibass: i recently install 18.04 on a macbook pro, working like a charm
[18:37] <gdibass> Yeah?  No issues with the trackpad or anything?
[18:37] <lotuspsychje> everything was working gdibass
[18:38] <gdibass> Awesome, even bluetooth?
[18:38] <gdibass> did you use bootcamp?
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> gdibass: i advice you to test a liveusb first
[18:38] <gdibass> that's a good idea haha
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> gdibass: no bootcamp, install worked right out of the box
[18:40] <gdibass> so wait are you using only ubuntu?  I wanted to keep my OSX partition
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> gdibass: just hit the key combo to get your ubuntu usb to load
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> gdibass: ah, thats another story i singlebooted indeed
[18:41] <gdibass> yeah I'd want to keep both
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> gdibass: i dont do dualboots myself, so ill let someone else help you on that
[18:41] <gdibass> lol
[18:42] <gdibass> fair enough
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> EriC^: ^ one for you :p
[18:45] <gdibass> Well it sounds like it's worth messing around with at least
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | gdibass might start here too
[18:46] <gdibass> Yeah my desktop runs UEFI
[19:48] <pi0> what is the name of x windows that ubuntu 18.10 runs
[19:49] <ducasse> do you mean the desktop environment?
[19:50] <ducasse> the x implementation is x.org
[19:50] <ducasse> the desktop is gnome 3
[19:51] <pi0> yes
[19:51] <pi0> oh ok x windows is -> x.org
[19:51] <pi0> window manager is gnome 3
[19:51] <pi0> that is the proper way to say it?
[19:51] <ducasse> not window manager, desktop environment
[19:52] <pi0> oh ok
[19:52] <ducasse> not sure which wm gnome uses
[19:53] <pi0> which wm does gnome use?
[19:53] <ducasse> as i said, not sure
[19:54] <pi0> ducasse: sounds good, sorry so many terminalogies
[19:54] <pi0> not sure how to properly call something
[19:54] <ducasse> mutter, it looks like
[19:58] <pi0> thanks
[20:17] <pi0> ducasse: do you recompile your kernel for optimization?
[20:18] <leftyfb> pi0: please take non ubuntu support questions to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:19] <coffeeguy> hi i've installed ubunut 18.04 and haven't been able to adjust resolution after installing the nvidia drivers
[20:19] <coffeeguy> even after i go back to xorg drivers
[20:20] <pi0> whooops kernel recompile is not ubuntu?
[20:20] <coffeeguy> seems like a common problem
[20:21] <coffeeguy> is there a quick fix or do i have to reinstall ubuntu
[20:21] <leftyfb> pi0: Are you asking how to compile your kernel or for opinions? Opinions belong in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:22] <pi0> oh i was actually asking how, but i see how i worded it
[20:22] <pi0> leftyfb: yes, sorry, how do do you do it
[20:23] <leftyfb> pi0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[20:24] <coffeeguy> what's weird is that the display dialog doesn't recognize my monitor after i switch too nvidia drivers or after i switch bavk
[20:24] <pi0> that does not seem too bad
[20:24] <pi0> does it matter what type of laptop i have?
[20:29] <Omcsesz> Hello, everyone!
[20:30] <Omcsesz> I have a question regarding boot from 18.04 DVD
[20:30] <Omcsesz> I get the following error: disk error 80, ax=4257
[20:31] <Omcsesz> Does anyone have an answer to that?
[20:33] <guiverc> Omcsesz, sounds like a disk error to me, faulty-write, download error written to disk thus disk is bad, or dvd-drive having issues with disk media - but I've not seen it before so this is mostly-guess
[20:35] <__andrea__> Hi, I'm trying to setup a diskless client; dhcp, tftp and kernel boot are fine, but I can't mount the nfs root filesystem (although I can mount it from a running linux)... any hint?
[20:36] <guiverc> Omcsesz, i looked online - the most likely cause I saw was a bad-burn, ie. written too fast a speed (usual fix is slow down write)...
[20:40] <pi0> leftyfb: are you there
[20:40] <nacc> __andrea__: does the client have networking (not the bootloader, the OS) when it tries to mount the nfs root?
[20:41] <__andrea__> nacc: how do I check that?
[20:45] <ioria> __andrea__, you might need the -o nolock  option to mount : mount -t nfs -o nolock server-ip:/nfsroot /mnt
[20:48] <__andrea__> ioria: / is not yet mounted, so I can't access the mount command
[20:49] <ioria> __andrea__, check your /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
[20:53] <JadedJ> What is the simplest way to extract a zip file in ubuntu terminal
[20:53] <JadedJ> unzip command?
[20:55] <leftyfb> JadedJ: why are you asking?
[20:56] <JadedJ> because I want to make sure the directory inside the zip file is extracted properly
[20:58] <leftyfb> JadedJ: and have you found using the unzip command to extract a zip file incorrectly?
[21:03] <__andrea__> the  /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf seems ok, someone else has some hints?
[21:05] <__andrea__> I have " kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=vmlinuz" on the kernel boot messages,  is it right or it should also have the options specified with APPEND ?
[21:21] <nacc> __andrea__: that's all that is on your commandline?
[21:21] <nacc> __andrea__: you would need to tell the system to, at least, obtain an ip over dhcp
[21:23] <__andrea__> nacc: ok, but how do I do it? note that in tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default I have the following line
[21:23] <__andrea__> PPEND root=/dev/nfs initrd=/initrd.img nfsroot=192.168.1.97:/srv/nfs/root,tcp ip=dhcp rw nfsrootdebug
[21:23] <__andrea__> APPEND
[21:23] <__andrea__> however I'm under the impression that the APPEND line is not being considered
[21:24] <se-sm-ca> is there a way to see the console?  should print out the command line first
[21:25] <nacc> se-sm-ca: good point
[21:25] <nacc> __andrea__: if you are doing network boot, you really want a console
[21:26] <nacc> __andrea__: on the tftp server, do you see the default file being loaded?
[21:27] <se-sm-ca> I don't have much context, but this post has a lot of words matching: https://askubuntu.com/a/1010646
[21:27] <nacc> yes, it does start to matter if there are multiple devices, etc.
[21:28] <__andrea__> se-sm-ca: I only have a single network card - for the moment I'm using virtualbox for testing purposes
[21:29] <se-sm-ca> is it NAT or bridged?
[21:30] <__andrea__> bridged, it works fine, i get the address from dhcp, I downlaod the vmlinuz via tftp, it boots the kernel and then it fails to mount the root nfs
[21:31] <nacc> __andrea__: that doesn't rule out a networking problem in the guest itself
[21:31] <se-sm-ca> yea something in the dhcp set up in the OS is broken it seems
[21:32] <se-sm-ca> pxe dhcp's, releases all control to the kernel which has to dhcp again
[21:32] <nacc> not the kernel, per se, but userspace in the guest, yeah :)
[21:33] <nacc> typically handled by initrd-packaged bits
[21:33] <se-sm-ca> ~many layers of fun~
[21:34] <tomvolek> HI guys, I just installed Ubunt 16.04 on an older Hp DL 365 server with 32G RAM,  desktop comes up , but it is exremly slow.  Top does not show any process hogging memory.  Any suggestions ?
[21:34] <nacc> tomvolek: what graphics adapter?
[21:35] <tomvolek> nacc: How can I check ?  this is a server built in 2009 .  its HP DL365 proliant
[21:36] <tomvolek> mayeb I should have installed Ubuntu server vs Ubuntu desktop. but still should be performing a lot better.  Typing is very very slow , etc.
[21:37] <se-sm-ca> lspci | grep -i VGA
[21:37] <nacc> tomvolek: `lspci` should list it, i think
[21:37] <nacc> tomvolek: do you actually want a desktop on your server?
[21:40] <tomvolek> nacc, I am going to use these for servers, mostly installing things like kafka, spark, jenkins, trying to setup a cluster.
[21:40] <nacc> tomvolek: yeah, you don't need a desktop
[21:41] <tomvolek> do i need to reinstall ? :)
[21:44] <nacc> tomvolek: not necessarily, you can just ssh into the server
[21:44] <nacc> tomvolek: alternatively, you could drop to a tty if you want to use the local keyboard/monitor (ctrl+alt+f2 iirc)
[21:45] <tomvolek> I mean my install now is a desktop. If I reboot it will always start up window mangers, etc.  even if i dont have a screen attached to the video port ..
[21:45] <nacc> tomvolek: yes
[21:46] <nacc> tomvolek: well, actually, i forget if that is probe-based or not, but it will probably be running the greeter process at least
[21:46] <quem> i need a laptop that is ~13", fairly powerful, thin, light and ubuntu friendly. what do you guys recommend?
[21:46] <tomvolek> I think this is a window manger issue with the graphic card.  I am still trying to get VGA output from lspci output :(  its very slow
[21:46] <se-sm-ca> oof
[21:46] <nacc> tomvolek: you can also just remove packages from the desktop install
[21:46] <nacc> tomvolek: even if you drop to a tty?
[21:46] <se-sm-ca> quem: purism?
[21:47] <tomvolek> nacc :  VGA compatible controller: Advance Micro Devices Inc. [AMD/ATI] ES1000 rev 02
[21:48] <quem> se-sm-ca: sounds intriguing. do tell more.
[21:48] <tomvolek> @nacc I am still on the desktop.  How do I drop to tty ? sorry forgotten
[21:48] <EliteGod> ctrl+alt+f2
[21:48] <se-sm-ca> https://puri.sm/products/librem-13/
[21:48] <nacc> tomvolek: what EliteGod said
[21:48] <quem> ahhh. i forgot an important factor, battery life.
[21:49] <__andrea__> nacc: se-sm-ca: I've found the issue, it wasn't what you suggested, I had to add an INITRD line to pxe config file: the initrd in the APPEND line was ignored
[21:49] <tomvolek> tx, let me try ... I am also looking for AMD ATI ES1000 to see if I can find appropriate driver for it.
[21:49] <__andrea__> now it runs fine, thanks :)
[21:49] <quem> i really like the concept though.
[21:49] <nacc> tomvolek: that's a pretty old card, i really just don't think it can keep up with modern desktop. You might try a more limited deskopt (lubuntu, xubuntu)
[21:49] <se-sm-ca> suprisingly close post here https://askubuntu.com/a/865935, so yea, good idea to remove the heavy desktop environment from a server
[21:49] <nacc> __andrea__: ah well, that's related. ip= options aren't parsed if youdon't haven an initrd
[21:50] <se-sm-ca> wellp that makes sense
[21:50] <__andrea__> what is confusing is that the initrd was indeed specified in the APPEND line of the config file...
[21:51] <nacc> __andrea__: right, but APPEND is passed to the kernel
[21:51] <nacc> __andrea__: you need to load the initrd over the network *first*
[21:51] <se-sm-ca> +1
[21:51] <nacc> __andrea__: the kernel doesn't know what an initrd is, really :)
[21:51] <tomvolek> @nacc   cool, on tty its fast  , so its the darn graphic card and window manager. Unfortunalty these are some old serves which my work was throwing out . I brought them home to setup a cluster :)
[21:51] <se-sm-ca> and /initrd is local to the kernel that just loaded
[21:52] <se-sm-ca> context in pxe switches a lot
[21:52] <nacc> tomvolek: yeah, so i think it might be easiest to reinstall with server than to remove stuff
[21:52] <nacc> tomvolek: will just be a simpler base at least
[21:52] <nacc> tomvolek: in my cursory reading, that card has no actuall acceleration, so it's really not suitable for gnome :)
[21:53] <tomvolek> @nacc thanks. at least I am at tty now .. shoudl i just remove the desktop from here ?   So if I boot it comes out at tty
[21:54] <ducasse> tomvolek: ypu can try removing the desktop task, 'apt purge ubuntu-desktop^' (npte the caret)
[21:54] <nacc> tomvolek: what ducasse said
[21:54] <tomvolek> perfect ... I give it a try , worst case I reinstall the Ubuntu server ...
[21:55] <nacc> tomvolek: yep :)
[21:56] <ducasse> tomvolek: if you want the default server tools, just do 'apt install ubuntu-server^'
[21:56] <tomvolek> @nacc @ducasse  I ran into a problem with Ubunu18.04 with gnome also it woudl not come out, screen would go blank. I had to add a no splash flag to the grub :)
[21:56] <tomvolek> @ducasse  I am doing now .. thanks
[21:57] <nacc> tomvolek: yeah, i think expecting this old of a server to run GUI desktop (the default one) is just not reasonable
[21:58] <tomvolek> removed the desktop, and adding ubuntu-server .. then I try to upgrade to ubuntu 18.04 ...
[21:58] <tomvolek> @nacc @ducasse   once I remove ubunut-desktop , if i boot , it should come up on tty , right ?
[21:58] <ducasse> yep
[21:59] <tomvolek> tx guys
[21:59] <nacc> tomvolek: yw
[21:59] <ducasse> you might need to do an 'apt autoremove'
[21:59] <nacc> ducasse: good point
[21:59] <tomvolek> what does that do  ?
[22:00] <nacc> tomvolek: it removes packages not explicitly required any more
[22:00] <nacc> tomvolek: by removing the desktop task earlier (ubuntu-desktop^) you removed some set of packages. But they may have dependencies installed in turn, whihc are no longer ncessary
[22:00] <tomvolek> sounds good
[22:00] <nacc> tomvolek: autoremove will go find those, ideally
[22:00] <OerHeks> including kernels
[22:01] <nacc> OerHeks: yes, true; avoidable by manually specifying them as installed, if that's a concern :)
[22:03] <tomvolek> @ducasse @nacc  running apt autoremove says 0 upgrade 0 remove 0 installed
[22:03] <tomvolek> I ran apt purge ubuntu-desktop  , apt install ubuntu-server , apt autoremove
[22:05] <ducasse> did you include the carets?
[22:05] <tomvolek> no :(
[22:08] <apawl> I'm noticing a lot of squeezed packets, especially if I'm downloading large files. Like, I can't even SSH in. I've set net.core.netdev_budget rather large with sysctl, but not noticing any improvement. Anything else I should be looking at?
[22:08] <tomvolek> apt install ubuntu-server^     says unable to locate pacage ubuntu-server^
[22:09] <apawl> I'm running 18.04 and using an Intel X540-AT2 network interface with the ltest drivers.
[22:09] <tomreyn> tomvolek: i would really recommend you install fresh. using the new server installer it is a really fast and user friendly process (unless you need to add full disk encryption).
[22:10] <tomvolek> tomreyn: sounds good ,, clean slate
[22:11] <tomreyn> tomvolek: i'm saying this because there are some not so obvious and some more obvious differences (defaults) between server and desktop installations. and you want those server defaults on a server.
[22:11] <tomvolek> fair enough... thanks gents
[22:12] <tomreyn> tomvolek: and while oyu're at it consider 18.04.1 instead of 16.04
[22:13] <tomvolek> exactly :)  downloading 18 now
[22:13] <tomreyn> i assume you mean 18.04 lts
[22:14] <tomreyn> there is not "ubuntu 18", since it just means 'an ubuntu released in 2018', and there are two of those, 18.04 lts and 18.10
[22:14] <tomvolek> yes downloading 18.04 lts .
[22:14] <tomreyn> :) good choice.
[22:40] <JustAPerson> Just installed nvidia-drivers-410, now my computer won't boot. If I launch into the recovery prompt, about 2 minutes later there are some messages about timing out trying to read /dev/disk-by-id
[22:48] <dedze> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 and firefox updated itself in the background today to version 63 and since this time, the color of the highlight of the URL bar has change from light blue to orange. How can I revert it back to light blue please?
[23:08] <spudpnds> Heya, I have a question about doing "apt-get upgrade". Let's say that it upgrades the OpenSSL library, do you know if my currently running programs linked against the old shared library get restarted, or is that on me to do?
[23:10] <tomreyn> spudpnds: most of the time, this is on you to do. the "needrestart" package can help you determine those processes.
[23:10] <tomreyn> also "checkrestart"
[23:11] <spudpnds> Oh very cool, I'll check that out, thanks for the tip!
[23:11] <tomreyn> (from package 'debian-goodies')
[23:12] <spudpnds> I'm looking at setting up unattended security upgrades on some servers, wondering if it's totally unattended or if I need to bounce nginx from time to time.
[23:13] <tomreyn> i would assume nginx will get restarted by default, but it depends on decisions the packager has made regarding default and regarding whether you'll be prompted
[23:14] <spudpnds> Mm, I should try it out and see what happens.
[23:14] <tomreyn> (also whether you can technically be prompted matters obviously, with unattended upgrades you cannot)
[23:17] <spudpnds> So I found "needrestart" which I think is the same thing. I should probably just reboot at this point :)
[23:21] <tomreyn> spudpnds: with unattended upgrades you probably want to use batch mode https://github.com/liske/needrestart/blob/master/README.batch.md , in case you use nagios for monitoring see https://github.com/liske/needrestart/blob/master/README.nagios.md
[23:28] <squarecircle> hm
[23:28] <squarecircle> Ohai, where should I try debugging, when the framebuffers are actually there and the max_resolution also is correct, but xrandr does not show me providers and gnome does not show additional screens?
[23:39] <flynn16> Are Guile bytecode files platform independent, and how to package them? `guile-2.2-libs` has bytecode files (*.go) in /usr/lib, whereas `guile-json` has bytecode files in /usr/share, whereas `guile-cairo` does not provide any bytecode file.
[23:55] <squarecircle> Ohai, where should I try debugging, when the framebuffers are actually there and the max_resolution also is correct, but xrandr does not show me providers and gnome does not show additional screens?