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ubuxubucan anyone help me make my xubuntu look better00:44
kumoolubuxubu, that depends on your tastes01:00
ubuxubui am try to determine the screen respolution on this laptop but i cannot find it in xubuntu01:00
ubuxubumust i run a terminal command?01:01
kumoolsettings > display01:01
ubuxubuok one sec01:01
ubuxubu1600x 90001:01
ubuxubucool ty01:01
ubuxubuit aslosays im not using prop drivers and i know this lapto has a ati mobility radeon 5870 1gb card in it01:02
ubuxubuthus im prolly using some horrible built in graphic card01:02
ubuxubui did tell the installet to take all drivers and software at install01:03
ubuxububut im not sute it installed a driver for my graphic card01:03
ubuxubuis the some ls0- command?01:04
ubuxubuls or something?01:04
kumooleverything is on settings01:04
ubuxubusays no additional driver available01:05
ubuxubui needto run a cmd to see what graphic card im running off of01:06
ubuxubuguess ill try to google it01:06
kumoolit should say the card used in additional drivers01:06
ubuxubui ran cmd01:08
ubuxubuit mentions my  587001:08
ubuxububut says i should run as super user or it may be innaccurate01:08
ubuxubui dont kow how to run super user01:09
kumoolsudo <cmd>01:09
ubuxubutyped exactly like that?01:09
ubuxubuoh okput sudo in front01:10
ubuxubuok01:10
ubuxubusays same thing mention my graphics card01:11
kumool??01:11
ubuxubuso i guess im using it somehow with a xubuntu driver01:11
kumoolpretty much01:11
ubuxubuweird01:11
kumooli wouldnt worry about it01:11
ubuxubuthey never used to have a prop driver for add on cards like this one01:12
kumoolprop drivers are not well supported01:12
ubuxubuyeah01:12
ubuxubuim glad if this readout actually mneasn in using my card01:12
kumooli saw the other day that chrome doesnt even allow hardware decoding, so you're stuck using the CPU when you watch videos01:13
ubuxubudamn01:13
ubuxubuhad no idea01:13
ubuxubuabout 10 yrs ago this was the best laptop gaming computer around hehe01:13
ubuxubui7-720q, radeon 5870 and 8gb ram hehehe01:14
ubuxuburunning xubuntu!01:14
kumooloh boy01:16
kumoolthat's such a waste01:16
kumoolslap on windows on that and run some games on it!01:16
ubuxubuyeah i had a ssd with that on it already for this box01:17
ubuxubui even kept the original dpinner type HDD with the original copy of win 7 on it01:18
ubuxubuspinner*01:18
ubuxububut i use my gaming desktops i built for games01:18
ubuxubuthe new games like more than 1gb og gpu ram01:19
ubuxubuthis card was back when 1 gb ddr5 was huge now its now01:19
ubuxubunot*01:19
ubuxububeen away from xubuntu for a long time i wanted to see what they h=did with it01:22
kumoolI currently have a decade old laptop which i can use for... well not a whole lot of games but i can play most things from gog and a couple of new ones01:24
kumooldon't recommend gaming on linux, especially wine01:25
ubuxubuyeah this is just for web browsing or maybe torrents01:29
ubuxubuhavent used it in years01:29
ubuxubuthis is like old fashioned ubuntu01:42
ubuxubuseems to have all the stuff u need01:43
ubuxubunoticed my wireless signal kinda comes in and out though01:53
kumoolthats not normal...01:55
ubuxubufor linux or just in general01:57
kumoolin general01:57
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UBUXUBUso what can i torrent02:00
UBUXUBUmy hardware is prolly better suited for kubuntu huh02:01
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kumoolUBUXUBU, its not about that anymore02:46
UBUXUBUwut02:46
kumoolusability is not performance02:48
kumoolkde isnt that great02:48
UBUXUBUmyfan runs quiet in this one02:50
UBUXUBUit was loud with ubuntu02:50
UBUXUBUi know what i have to do with this old gaming laptop but i dont wanna doit...i neeed to tear it down, clean out the fans and repaste the chip.02:51
UBUXUBUthe cpu and gpu chips02:51
UBUXUBUis it true xubuntu is on its way out?03:05
UBUXUBUi heard lxde was taAMD support is still not completely reliable in Linux, although much work has been done in recent years. A general rule is that most modern AMD processors will work as long as you don’t need any AMD-specific features.kin over03:05
UBUXUBUooops03:05
UBUXUBUi mean i heard lxde was takin over that slot03:06
UBUXUBUwow these laptop cooler really help03:31
AuroraAvenuesame as always in a .10 cycle https://askubuntu.com/questions/1088133/closing-the-lid-didnt-put-the-notebook-on-sleep-with-external-monitor-on-xfce05:36
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xubuntu14dI have upgraded in the past but reverted back to the 16.0.4 because 18.0.4 did not recognize my USB 3.0 Expansion PCIe Card Rosewill RC-508. My name is John Roke. My email is: johnroke@hotmail.com13:56
xubuntu14dPlease advise!13:57
UBUXUBU never fails to amaze me how the projects go backwards on us13:59
xubuntu14dYes, it does happen!14:04
xubuntu14dIs there any fix?14:05
gnrpxubuntu14d: Did you take a dmesg from the 18.04 or lspci output?14:05
xubuntu14dNo I didn't.14:06
xubuntu14dI tried to use recovery, hoping it would discover the flashdrives I inserted. When that didn't work it was easier for me to downgrade.14:08
gnrpthen it is hard to debug14:08
xubuntu14dOK. Well, I may try the newer version some time in the future. Thanks!14:09
xubuntu14dAnd take your advice.14:09
gnrpmaybe you still find something in the logs if you didn't reboot too often in between?14:14
xubuntu14dThanks again!14:22
gnrphm...14:24
UBUXUBU once a project has reached a certain level of excellence, why do they go backwards?14:33
UBUXUBUs not able to brighten or dim my display. yesteray i grad this asus laptop and try ubuntu in it and it makes the internal cooling fans SCREAM like a jet engine. I then put xubuntu in it and all is well...a nice slinet machine and the dimmer works.14:37
UBUXUBUdarn i am a terrible typist14:38
gnrpUBUXUBU: Linux, after all, still requires work on the command line to work properly. I am sure you could have the same results using ubuntu if you knew where to tweak (not saying that it is easy)14:52
gnrpUBUXUBU: And why things go backwards, if you can solve that question you should go into business, you would be a rich man14:53
xubuntu49wHi there, I have a problem with my xubuntu installation15:12
xubuntu49wI just installed xubuntu and after I reboot my computer, I've tried to log but, I see the cursor and suddenly it goes back to log screen.15:15
IoloThat sounds familiar, but when I had that behavior, the problem was that permissions on the home directory were too strict, and I couldn't get in. Did you copy anything over from a previous installation, or was this a completely fresh install?15:22
xubuntu49wHi, thanks. It's not a fresh install, I conserve my /home partition15:23
IoloIn that case I'd start with checking the permissions. I gotta run, but maybe someone else here can help you with that if you need it.15:27
xubuntu49wThanks Iolo, I will check permissions15:29
gnrpxubuntu49w: Iolo sounds about right. Permissions are most likely from your old system, maybe apply a `chown -R` when you see that the uid is unknown to the system or not your user15:33
xubuntu49wI just realized I use a new username for new installation. I have two directories at /home.15:43
xubuntu49wTwo directories have same owner and permissions look fine drwxr-xr-x15:46
xubuntu49wCould new installation trying to load .config from my old user?15:47
balsaqcan imake xubuntu look like ubuntu desktop 18 04 01 with the glass icon launcher on the side?16:21
* GridCube doesn't know how mainbuntu looks nowdays16:26
balsaqit has a glass panel on the left side of the display with the icons on it16:27
balsaqit 2-3 times wider than the black panelwe have on top16:28
GridCubeyou can stick the panel to any side of the display you want16:28
balsaqits a launcher16:28
GridCubeyou can make it anysize and have any color or transparency you want16:28
balsaqwiht some sprcific abilities16:28
GridCubethen no16:28
balsaqso we can go get it from repository and instal it16:28
balsaqcannt i meant16:29
GridCubepretty sure you have to be using the gnome panels then16:29
GridCubethat would defeat the point of using xfce16:29
balsaqyeah xfce makes my fas run quiet16:29
balsaqubuntu made the groan like a dying goat16:29
balsaqfans*16:30
balsaqmakes no sense16:30
GridCubewell, that's what specific abilities need16:30
GridCubethere's lots of things the xfce panels can do tho16:30
GridCubethey can be launchers and autohide and have indicators and window lists with icons or text or transpacencies16:31
balsaqid like it to be blue16:31
balsaqand a little opaque16:31
GridCubethen do it do that16:31
balsaqi dont know how16:31
GridCuberight click on the panel and go to settings?16:32
GridCubehttps://www.lifewire.com/customize-xfce-desktop-environment-220208016:32
balsaqok i just did  a back u and restore in case i screw this u p this ioption was in the panel configurator16:41
balsaqso i wonder where they store tht back up in case i sxcrew this up16:41
balsaqi dont see it anywhere16:42
balsaqahh i see it now16:43
balsaqthey call xfce panel switch16:43
balsaqsaved under "desktop"16:43
balsaqso now i can go back supposedly16:44
brainwashbalsaq: alternatively, install "plank" which is a simple dock application16:49
balsaqthanks sounds cool where does it sit at16:50
brainwashby default at the bottom16:51
balsaqgood news that back up feature works16:51
balsaqi had it all screwedup16:51
balsaqima try this plank16:51
brainwashsudo apt install plank16:52
balsaqok here goes16:52
balsaqwow thats a nice one16:54
balsaqbut can i  get rig of that top panel now i wonder and n ot lose functionality16:55
balsaqi want everythin on plank16:56
balsaqand nothing anywhere else16:56
balsaqhmm lets see16:56
balsaqwill not let me add standard desk icons16:56
brainwashplank is not a panel, so it won't show tray icons, the clock, etc.16:57
brainwashactually, it can show the time16:58
brainwashyour initial question was about an app launcher on the left similar to ubuntu17:00
brainwashand plank can do that17:00
balsaqso how can iafford to get rid of top panel anda ll deskicons?17:00
balsaqnow i only want plank on desktop17:01
balsaqi like it17:01
brainwashdesktop icons can be hidden via right click on desktop > desktop settings > icons > type17:01
balsaqwhat if idelet top panel17:02
brainwashI would keep the top panel and maybe remove all its elements other than the tray and notfication plugins17:03
pragomercan I use xubuntu 18.10's icon theme and greybird-theme in xubuntu 18.04 somehow?17:19
brainwashpragomer: did the greybird theme change in any way?17:22
pragomerjust read something about that fact. but I am not really sure that its really the case17:23
pragomermainly I asked for the new (vanilla-looking) icon theme17:23
brainwashthe icon theme can be obtained from https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa17:23
uBUXUBulooks a lot better17:34
uBUXUBuand now on that launcher ihave a button that removes the toppanel or brings it back17:34
uBUXUBuso if icould just get rid of the 3 desktop icons on th eleft17:35
uBUXUBuwould look more modern17:35
uBUXUBuis there a default key i cnpress thatmakes the disappear?17:36
uBUXUBugeez damn launcher makes my fans groan just like ubuntu haha17:40
brainwashreally? that is odd17:41
brainwash"desktop icons can be hidden via right click on desktop > desktop settings > icons > type"17:42
uBUXUBuyeah the launchers are fan pigs17:52
uBUXUBuwhen i was using xubuntu in it its default i mostly quieted these fans thats why i left ubuntu17:53
uBUXUBunow that i gered it up a bit and added the laucher the fans groan once again17:53
uBUXUButhey must not now how to code it efficiently17:53
brainwashbut why? what does the task manager report?17:54
uBUXUBudoesnt matter i can hear it17:54
uBUXUBusound like an jet17:54
uBUXUButask mgr always show it c=varying from 1-9 percent cpu use and 1-1.5 gb ram in use17:55
uBUXUBualways goes up and down in those parameters17:55
uBUXUBuactualy no it says 11 % ram use17:56
uBUXUBuwhich i have 8gb so it would be like .88 ram use17:56
uBUXUBucpu is usally 1 percent and when i do stuff it goes up to 9 for a minute17:56
uBUXUBulike right now i am at 1%cou and .72gb ram'17:58
uBUXUBuand actually the fan is silent for awhile17:58
uBUXUBui need to open the laptop clean it out put new arctic silver paste on the cpu and gpu and take apart the fan and put a tiny drop of oil inside if it17:59
uBUXUBubuton the massive gaming laptop that is going tobe a pain in th ascz i saw a videoof it17:59
uBUXUButhe layered long and deep17:59
uBUXUBui gamed hard on this thing for 2 years back when it was new until the screen went black,,,it shut itself off to save its own life signaling that the thermal past was ruined and the fans were full of and prolly cat hair.18:03
uBUXUBuit doesnt black out with the laptop coolore under it though18:03
uBUXUButhus i know there is a heat issue from inside for sure...the launchers warm it up just enouhj to set off the fans to a higher speed18:04
brainwashsounds pretty bad18:09
uBUXUBuwell all the hardware works great18:10
uBUXUBui7   8gb ram   radeon 5870    and a SSD18:11
uBUXUBubut the fam groans18:11
uBUXUBufan18:11
uBUXUBuso shouldnt be so bad to fix18:11
uBUXUBudo u have atemp widget for xubunut id like to ck the temps18:14
KrockSW question: How can I mass-convert the MIME assignments for file opening applications from "mousepad" to, say "leafpad"? I already found /usr/share/applications/defaults.list and ~/.config/mimeapps.list, former uses gedit and in the latter I replaced all occurrences, but that didn't change anything18:15
KrockuBUXUBu: "watch sensors"18:16
brainwashKrock: there should be a defaults.list in /usr/share/xubuntu/applications/defaults.list18:18
brainwashbut ~/.config/mimeapps.list should be the one which is read first18:19
uBUXUBuok ill lookfor watch senors in software18:19
KrockuBUXUBu: run it in a terminal18:20
uBUXUBuweird now the fansare silent and i was just watching a youtube video18:20
Krockbrainwash: thanks. How will it adapt the new configuration? On login?18:20
uBUXUButhre is no watch senros18:20
brainwashKrock: on login I'd think, but only if ~/.config/mimeapps.list is not present18:21
Krockbrainwash: it is present, and I also replaced all occurrences there. No changes yet, but will see whether a re-login does it18:22
Krockthanks for your help :D18:22
balsaqdid u know that plank goes away upon reboot?18:45
balsaqi want it there all there time18:45
balsaqi like it18:45
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brainwashuBUXUBu: add it to the autostart19:05
irgendwer4711hi, I have upgraded to 18.10. now my taskbar is gone.19:17
Krockrun xfce4-panel19:17
irgendwer4711oh yes, but its gone after every boot19:17
irgendwer4711oh its not installed19:18
brainwashis "xubuntu-desktop" missing also?19:19
UbuxubUi wish i knew u were gonna take 18 10 those ones after the LTS always screw things up especially panels19:21
UbuxubUthey been doin that for years19:21
brainwashwhy not open a bug report for this issue then?19:22
UbuxubUits been an issue foor 10 years haha19:22
UbuxubUthey dont care19:22
brainwashhow would you know?19:22
UbuxubUbecause it happened to me19:23
brainwashbut you did not report it19:23
UbuxubUit happened to me back in 9.1019:23
UbuxubUand it happened to so many otheres the ppl in here had the coomand to fix it memorized19:23
UbuxubUits like reporting to God that the sky is blue19:24
brainwashso, the users do no care about it being fixed then?19:24
brainwashif you find a bug, report it19:24
brainwashit's that easy19:24
UbuxubUwas reported19:24
brainwashlink?19:25
UbuxubUi recall reading about it when it nailed me19:25
UbuxubUill see if i can still find it19:25
UbuxubUhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/475679/xubuntu-panel-disappears-every-time-i-restart19:26
Krockthat's not a bug report19:27
UbuxubUbut it was reported19:27
Krockit's a regular question which will not result in any coding efforts19:27
UbuxubUso we found an unreported bug that has exsisted in buntu for a decade?19:28
brainwashthis askubuntu page does not mention xfce4-panel being uninstalled on dist upgrade19:28
UbuxubUthey all did it19:28
brainwashit's possible that the panel crashes for some reason, and the current session state is saved upon logout19:28
brainwashnext time you log in the panel won't be started automatically19:29
UbuxubUthat possibility has been a relaity for a loooooong time19:30
UbuxubUreality*19:30
brainwashnot much the Devs can do about this, unless it gets reported19:30
brainwashto them19:30
brainwashand not some 3rd party website19:30
UbuxubUi know evertime i report a bug it says "timeout try again later"19:31
UbuxubUi tried 3 times yesterday on a different issue19:32
UbuxubUi think a lot of ppl just give up19:32
brainwashwhich bug tracker?19:32
UbuxubUin my case was launchpad  report a bug  and i did it manaully19:34
UbuxubUbut even before i did that i went to the devs and told them but they said "dont report it to us"19:35
UbuxubUso im like i tried the other way and it crashed me on a timout 3 times19:35
UbuxubUill have to try xubuntu launchpad  is it different?19:35
brainwashyou make it sound like no one wants your feedback or crash reports19:35
UbuxubUno im not saying that im just telling u what happened19:36
brainwashxubuntu launchpad?19:36
brainwashthere is only one launchpad19:36
UbuxubUok then ive done it19:36
brainwashand the Xfce bug tracker19:36
brainwashhttps://bugzilla.xfce.org/19:36
brainwashthis is the place where Xfce devs read bug reports19:37
UbuxubUok well i just installed this so i havent had on to launch yet here but had one for ubuntu before i wiped ubuntu for xubuntu19:37
UbuxubUill take that link though19:37
UbuxubUdp u know how to make it so i dont have to find and execute my plank after every reboot?19:39
brainwashadd it to the autostart19:39
UbuxubUok ill look for that thanks19:39
brainwashsettings > session and startup > ...19:39
UbuxubUplank isnt listed19:42
UbuxubUunless imsupposedto save the session19:43
brainwash>add19:43
UbuxubUis that what u mean19:43
UbuxubUi did try add19:43
brainwashare you in the correct tab?19:43
UbuxubUsetting and stat up19:43
brainwashok19:43
brainwashand the tab?19:43
UbuxubUtrying again19:44
UbuxubUapplication start up right?19:44
brainwashyes19:44
UbuxubUadd19:45
UbuxubUits blanck19:45
UbuxubUand when i type itin nothing happens19:45
UbuxubUthe ok doesnt light up19:45
brainwashwell19:46
UbuxubUi think it also wansts a comand19:46
SpassUbuxubU, you need to enter the name (for example "Plank") and the command ("plank")19:46
UbuxubUok19:46
brainwashah c'mon19:46
UbuxubUthought command was like sudo .... hehe19:47
UbuxubUok lets see if it works19:47
balsaqwow that worked20:05
balsaqbetter service in this chat20:05
* irgendwer4711 back20:06
balsaqwb irgendwer471120:06
irgendwer4711brainwash: yes, xubuntu-desktop is missing20:06
Spassbalsaq, also, not sure if you know it, but you can click 'Ctrl+right mouse button' on Plank to get to its Preferences20:10
balsaqno i did not thank you20:12
soreaudoes the 18.10 64bit iso work in vbox? it just gives black screen with blinking cursor forever here20:23
brainwashsoreau: works for me20:25
soreauhuh, I checked the md5sum..20:25
soreauand previous iterations of xubuntu have worked in this same vm20:25
brainwashdoes the 18.04 one work?20:25
soreaulet me try20:25
soreauyes I see ubuntu 18.04 and it boots20:26
balsaqhere is my desktop after getting some help in here  http://i.imgur.com/XAp3DHH.png20:28
brainwashsoreau: https://i.imgur.com/6KRvS3s.png20:32
brainwashversion 5.2.2020:33
soreauok let me try upgrading vbox20:33
soreaucould be some kernel thing20:33
soreau5.2.10 here fwiw20:34
ondondil5.2.10 here too, cosmic runs fine in vbox20:37
soreauhere it doesn't20:44
soreauit just sits with blinking cursor forever, again 18.04 boots20:44
soreauon 5.2.2020:44
soreauhey I figured it out20:50
soreauI noticed that in system settings for the vm, the paravirtualization interface was set to Legacy. Setting it to default fixed things20:51
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balsaqijust tried transmission and xfce burn and it worked nice21:01
balsaqtook only about 5 min to get an entire OS21:04
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charquichegreetings peps ;)23:29
charquicheam new on ubuntu ... hope i could find some help here ...23:30

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