[00:44] <ubuxubu> can anyone help me make my xubuntu look better
[01:00] <kumool> ubuxubu, that depends on your tastes
[01:00] <ubuxubu> i am try to determine the screen respolution on this laptop but i cannot find it in xubuntu
[01:01] <ubuxubu> must i run a terminal command?
[01:01] <kumool> settings > display
[01:01] <ubuxubu> ok one sec
[01:01] <ubuxubu> 1600x 900
[01:01] <ubuxubu> cool ty
[01:02] <ubuxubu> it aslosays im not using prop drivers and i know this lapto has a ati mobility radeon 5870 1gb card in it
[01:02] <ubuxubu> thus im prolly using some horrible built in graphic card
[01:03] <ubuxubu> i did tell the installet to take all drivers and software at install
[01:03] <ubuxubu> but im not sute it installed a driver for my graphic card
[01:04] <ubuxubu> is the some ls0- command?
[01:04] <ubuxubu> ls or something?
[01:04] <kumool> everything is on settings
[01:05] <ubuxubu> says no additional driver available
[01:06] <ubuxubu> i needto run a cmd to see what graphic card im running off of
[01:06] <ubuxubu> guess ill try to google it
[01:06] <kumool> it should say the card used in additional drivers
[01:08] <ubuxubu> i ran cmd
[01:08] <ubuxubu> it mentions my  5870
[01:08] <ubuxubu> but says i should run as super user or it may be innaccurate
[01:09] <ubuxubu> i dont kow how to run super user
[01:09] <kumool> sudo <cmd>
[01:09] <ubuxubu> typed exactly like that?
[01:10] <ubuxubu> oh okput sudo in front
[01:10] <ubuxubu> ok
[01:11] <ubuxubu> says same thing mention my graphics card
[01:11] <kumool> ??
[01:11] <ubuxubu> so i guess im using it somehow with a xubuntu driver
[01:11] <kumool> pretty much
[01:11] <ubuxubu> weird
[01:11] <kumool> i wouldnt worry about it
[01:12] <ubuxubu> they never used to have a prop driver for add on cards like this one
[01:12] <kumool> prop drivers are not well supported
[01:12] <ubuxubu> yeah
[01:12] <ubuxubu> im glad if this readout actually mneasn in using my card
[01:13] <kumool> i saw the other day that chrome doesnt even allow hardware decoding, so you're stuck using the CPU when you watch videos
[01:13] <ubuxubu> damn
[01:13] <ubuxubu> had no idea
[01:13] <ubuxubu> about 10 yrs ago this was the best laptop gaming computer around hehe
[01:14] <ubuxubu> i7-720q, radeon 5870 and 8gb ram hehehe
[01:14] <ubuxubu> running xubuntu!
[01:16] <kumool> oh boy
[01:16] <kumool> that's such a waste
[01:16] <kumool> slap on windows on that and run some games on it!
[01:17] <ubuxubu> yeah i had a ssd with that on it already for this box
[01:18] <ubuxubu> i even kept the original dpinner type HDD with the original copy of win 7 on it
[01:18] <ubuxubu> spinner*
[01:18] <ubuxubu> but i use my gaming desktops i built for games
[01:19] <ubuxubu> the new games like more than 1gb og gpu ram
[01:19] <ubuxubu> this card was back when 1 gb ddr5 was huge now its now
[01:19] <ubuxubu> not*
[01:22] <ubuxubu> been away from xubuntu for a long time i wanted to see what they h=did with it
[01:24] <kumool> I currently have a decade old laptop which i can use for... well not a whole lot of games but i can play most things from gog and a couple of new ones
[01:25] <kumool> don't recommend gaming on linux, especially wine
[01:29] <ubuxubu> yeah this is just for web browsing or maybe torrents
[01:29] <ubuxubu> havent used it in years
[01:42] <ubuxubu> this is like old fashioned ubuntu
[01:43] <ubuxubu> seems to have all the stuff u need
[01:53] <ubuxubu> noticed my wireless signal kinda comes in and out though
[01:55] <kumool> thats not normal...
[01:57] <ubuxubu> for linux or just in general
[01:57] <kumool> in general
[02:00] <UBUXUBU> so what can i torrent
[02:01] <UBUXUBU> my hardware is prolly better suited for kubuntu huh
[02:46] <kumool> UBUXUBU, its not about that anymore
[02:46] <UBUXUBU> wut
[02:48] <kumool> usability is not performance
[02:48] <kumool> kde isnt that great
[02:50] <UBUXUBU> myfan runs quiet in this one
[02:50] <UBUXUBU> it was loud with ubuntu
[02:51] <UBUXUBU> i know what i have to do with this old gaming laptop but i dont wanna doit...i neeed to tear it down, clean out the fans and repaste the chip.
[02:51] <UBUXUBU> the cpu and gpu chips
[03:05] <UBUXUBU> is it true xubuntu is on its way out?
[03:05] <UBUXUBU> i heard lxde was taAMD support is still not completely reliable in Linux, although much work has been done in recent years. A general rule is that most modern AMD processors will work as long as you don’t need any AMD-specific features.kin over
[03:05] <UBUXUBU> ooops
[03:06] <UBUXUBU> i mean i heard lxde was takin over that slot
[03:31] <UBUXUBU> wow these laptop cooler really help
[05:36] <AuroraAvenue> same as always in a .10 cycle https://askubuntu.com/questions/1088133/closing-the-lid-didnt-put-the-notebook-on-sleep-with-external-monitor-on-xfce
[13:56] <xubuntu14d> I have upgraded in the past but reverted back to the 16.0.4 because 18.0.4 did not recognize my USB 3.0 Expansion PCIe Card Rosewill RC-508. My name is John Roke. My email is: johnroke@hotmail.com
[13:57] <xubuntu14d> Please advise!
[13:59] <UBUXUBU>  never fails to amaze me how the projects go backwards on us
[14:04] <xubuntu14d> Yes, it does happen!
[14:05] <xubuntu14d> Is there any fix?
[14:05] <gnrp> xubuntu14d: Did you take a dmesg from the 18.04 or lspci output?
[14:06] <xubuntu14d> No I didn't.
[14:08] <xubuntu14d> I tried to use recovery, hoping it would discover the flashdrives I inserted. When that didn't work it was easier for me to downgrade.
[14:08] <gnrp> then it is hard to debug
[14:09] <xubuntu14d> OK. Well, I may try the newer version some time in the future. Thanks!
[14:09] <xubuntu14d> And take your advice.
[14:14] <gnrp> maybe you still find something in the logs if you didn't reboot too often in between?
[14:22] <xubuntu14d> Thanks again!
[14:24] <gnrp> hm...
[14:33] <UBUXUBU>  once a project has reached a certain level of excellence, why do they go backwards?
[14:37] <UBUXUBU> s not able to brighten or dim my display. yesteray i grad this asus laptop and try ubuntu in it and it makes the internal cooling fans SCREAM like a jet engine. I then put xubuntu in it and all is well...a nice slinet machine and the dimmer works.
[14:38] <UBUXUBU> darn i am a terrible typist
[14:52] <gnrp> UBUXUBU: Linux, after all, still requires work on the command line to work properly. I am sure you could have the same results using ubuntu if you knew where to tweak (not saying that it is easy)
[14:53] <gnrp> UBUXUBU: And why things go backwards, if you can solve that question you should go into business, you would be a rich man
[15:12] <xubuntu49w> Hi there, I have a problem with my xubuntu installation
[15:15] <xubuntu49w> I just installed xubuntu and after I reboot my computer, I've tried to log but, I see the cursor and suddenly it goes back to log screen.
[15:22] <Iolo> That sounds familiar, but when I had that behavior, the problem was that permissions on the home directory were too strict, and I couldn't get in. Did you copy anything over from a previous installation, or was this a completely fresh install?
[15:23] <xubuntu49w> Hi, thanks. It's not a fresh install, I conserve my /home partition
[15:27] <Iolo> In that case I'd start with checking the permissions. I gotta run, but maybe someone else here can help you with that if you need it.
[15:29] <xubuntu49w> Thanks Iolo, I will check permissions
[15:33] <gnrp> xubuntu49w: Iolo sounds about right. Permissions are most likely from your old system, maybe apply a `chown -R` when you see that the uid is unknown to the system or not your user
[15:43] <xubuntu49w> I just realized I use a new username for new installation. I have two directories at /home.
[15:46] <xubuntu49w> Two directories have same owner and permissions look fine drwxr-xr-x
[15:47] <xubuntu49w> Could new installation trying to load .config from my old user?
[16:21] <balsaq> can imake xubuntu look like ubuntu desktop 18 04 01 with the glass icon launcher on the side?
[16:26]  * GridCube doesn't know how mainbuntu looks nowdays
[16:27] <balsaq> it has a glass panel on the left side of the display with the icons on it
[16:28] <balsaq> it 2-3 times wider than the black panelwe have on top
[16:28] <GridCube> you can stick the panel to any side of the display you want
[16:28] <balsaq> its a launcher
[16:28] <GridCube> you can make it anysize and have any color or transparency you want
[16:28] <balsaq> wiht some sprcific abilities
[16:28] <GridCube> then no
[16:28] <balsaq> so we can go get it from repository and instal it
[16:29] <balsaq> cannt i meant
[16:29] <GridCube> pretty sure you have to be using the gnome panels then
[16:29] <GridCube> that would defeat the point of using xfce
[16:29] <balsaq> yeah xfce makes my fas run quiet
[16:29] <balsaq> ubuntu made the groan like a dying goat
[16:30] <balsaq> fans*
[16:30] <balsaq> makes no sense
[16:30] <GridCube> well, that's what specific abilities need
[16:30] <GridCube> there's lots of things the xfce panels can do tho
[16:31] <GridCube> they can be launchers and autohide and have indicators and window lists with icons or text or transpacencies
[16:31] <balsaq> id like it to be blue
[16:31] <balsaq> and a little opaque
[16:31] <GridCube> then do it do that
[16:31] <balsaq> i dont know how
[16:32] <GridCube> right click on the panel and go to settings?
[16:32] <GridCube> https://www.lifewire.com/customize-xfce-desktop-environment-2202080
[16:41] <balsaq> ok i just did  a back u and restore in case i screw this u p this ioption was in the panel configurator
[16:41] <balsaq> so i wonder where they store tht back up in case i sxcrew this up
[16:42] <balsaq> i dont see it anywhere
[16:43] <balsaq> ahh i see it now
[16:43] <balsaq> they call xfce panel switch
[16:43] <balsaq> saved under "desktop"
[16:44] <balsaq> so now i can go back supposedly
[16:49] <brainwash> balsaq: alternatively, install "plank" which is a simple dock application
[16:50] <balsaq> thanks sounds cool where does it sit at
[16:51] <brainwash> by default at the bottom
[16:51] <balsaq> good news that back up feature works
[16:51] <balsaq> i had it all screwedup
[16:51] <balsaq> ima try this plank
[16:52] <brainwash> sudo apt install plank
[16:52] <balsaq> ok here goes
[16:54] <balsaq> wow thats a nice one
[16:55] <balsaq> but can i  get rig of that top panel now i wonder and n ot lose functionality
[16:56] <balsaq> i want everythin on plank
[16:56] <balsaq> and nothing anywhere else
[16:56] <balsaq> hmm lets see
[16:56] <balsaq> will not let me add standard desk icons
[16:57] <brainwash> plank is not a panel, so it won't show tray icons, the clock, etc.
[16:58] <brainwash> actually, it can show the time
[17:00] <brainwash> your initial question was about an app launcher on the left similar to ubuntu
[17:00] <brainwash> and plank can do that
[17:00] <balsaq> so how can iafford to get rid of top panel anda ll deskicons?
[17:01] <balsaq> now i only want plank on desktop
[17:01] <balsaq> i like it
[17:01] <brainwash> desktop icons can be hidden via right click on desktop > desktop settings > icons > type
[17:02] <balsaq> what if idelet top panel
[17:03] <brainwash> I would keep the top panel and maybe remove all its elements other than the tray and notfication plugins
[17:19] <pragomer> can I use xubuntu 18.10's icon theme and greybird-theme in xubuntu 18.04 somehow?
[17:22] <brainwash> pragomer: did the greybird theme change in any way?
[17:23] <pragomer> just read something about that fact. but I am not really sure that its really the case
[17:23] <pragomer> mainly I asked for the new (vanilla-looking) icon theme
[17:23] <brainwash> the icon theme can be obtained from https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[17:34] <uBUXUBu> looks a lot better
[17:34] <uBUXUBu> and now on that launcher ihave a button that removes the toppanel or brings it back
[17:35] <uBUXUBu> so if icould just get rid of the 3 desktop icons on th eleft
[17:35] <uBUXUBu> would look more modern
[17:36] <uBUXUBu> is there a default key i cnpress thatmakes the disappear?
[17:40] <uBUXUBu> geez damn launcher makes my fans groan just like ubuntu haha
[17:41] <brainwash> really? that is odd
[17:42] <brainwash> "desktop icons can be hidden via right click on desktop > desktop settings > icons > type"
[17:52] <uBUXUBu> yeah the launchers are fan pigs
[17:53] <uBUXUBu> when i was using xubuntu in it its default i mostly quieted these fans thats why i left ubuntu
[17:53] <uBUXUBu> now that i gered it up a bit and added the laucher the fans groan once again
[17:53] <uBUXUBu> they must not now how to code it efficiently
[17:54] <brainwash> but why? what does the task manager report?
[17:54] <uBUXUBu> doesnt matter i can hear it
[17:54] <uBUXUBu> sound like an jet
[17:55] <uBUXUBu> task mgr always show it c=varying from 1-9 percent cpu use and 1-1.5 gb ram in use
[17:55] <uBUXUBu> always goes up and down in those parameters
[17:56] <uBUXUBu> actualy no it says 11 % ram use
[17:56] <uBUXUBu> which i have 8gb so it would be like .88 ram use
[17:56] <uBUXUBu> cpu is usally 1 percent and when i do stuff it goes up to 9 for a minute
[17:58] <uBUXUBu> like right now i am at 1%cou and .72gb ram'
[17:58] <uBUXUBu> and actually the fan is silent for awhile
[17:59] <uBUXUBu> i need to open the laptop clean it out put new arctic silver paste on the cpu and gpu and take apart the fan and put a tiny drop of oil inside if it
[17:59] <uBUXUBu> buton the massive gaming laptop that is going tobe a pain in th ascz i saw a videoof it
[17:59] <uBUXUBu> the layered long and deep
[18:03] <uBUXUBu> i gamed hard on this thing for 2 years back when it was new until the screen went black,,,it shut itself off to save its own life signaling that the thermal past was ruined and the fans were full of and prolly cat hair.
[18:03] <uBUXUBu> it doesnt black out with the laptop coolore under it though
[18:04] <uBUXUBu> thus i know there is a heat issue from inside for sure...the launchers warm it up just enouhj to set off the fans to a higher speed
[18:09] <brainwash> sounds pretty bad
[18:10] <uBUXUBu> well all the hardware works great
[18:11] <uBUXUBu> i7   8gb ram   radeon 5870    and a SSD
[18:11] <uBUXUBu> but the fam groans
[18:11] <uBUXUBu> fan
[18:11] <uBUXUBu> so shouldnt be so bad to fix
[18:14] <uBUXUBu> do u have atemp widget for xubunut id like to ck the temps
[18:15] <Krock> SW question: How can I mass-convert the MIME assignments for file opening applications from "mousepad" to, say "leafpad"? I already found /usr/share/applications/defaults.list and ~/.config/mimeapps.list, former uses gedit and in the latter I replaced all occurrences, but that didn't change anything
[18:16] <Krock> uBUXUBu: "watch sensors"
[18:18] <brainwash> Krock: there should be a defaults.list in /usr/share/xubuntu/applications/defaults.list
[18:19] <brainwash> but ~/.config/mimeapps.list should be the one which is read first
[18:19] <uBUXUBu> ok ill lookfor watch senors in software
[18:20] <Krock> uBUXUBu: run it in a terminal
[18:20] <uBUXUBu> weird now the fansare silent and i was just watching a youtube video
[18:20] <Krock> brainwash: thanks. How will it adapt the new configuration? On login?
[18:20] <uBUXUBu> thre is no watch senros
[18:21] <brainwash> Krock: on login I'd think, but only if ~/.config/mimeapps.list is not present
[18:22] <Krock> brainwash: it is present, and I also replaced all occurrences there. No changes yet, but will see whether a re-login does it
[18:22] <Krock> thanks for your help :D
[18:45] <balsaq> did u know that plank goes away upon reboot?
[18:45] <balsaq> i want it there all there time
[18:45] <balsaq> i like it
[19:05] <brainwash> uBUXUBu: add it to the autostart
[19:17] <irgendwer4711> hi, I have upgraded to 18.10. now my taskbar is gone.
[19:17] <Krock> run xfce4-panel
[19:17] <irgendwer4711> oh yes, but its gone after every boot
[19:18] <irgendwer4711> oh its not installed
[19:19] <brainwash> is "xubuntu-desktop" missing also?
[19:21] <UbuxubU> i wish i knew u were gonna take 18 10 those ones after the LTS always screw things up especially panels
[19:21] <UbuxubU> they been doin that for years
[19:22] <brainwash> why not open a bug report for this issue then?
[19:22] <UbuxubU> its been an issue foor 10 years haha
[19:22] <UbuxubU> they dont care
[19:22] <brainwash> how would you know?
[19:23] <UbuxubU> because it happened to me
[19:23] <brainwash> but you did not report it
[19:23] <UbuxubU> it happened to me back in 9.10
[19:23] <UbuxubU> and it happened to so many otheres the ppl in here had the coomand to fix it memorized
[19:24] <UbuxubU> its like reporting to God that the sky is blue
[19:24] <brainwash> so, the users do no care about it being fixed then?
[19:24] <brainwash> if you find a bug, report it
[19:24] <brainwash> it's that easy
[19:24] <UbuxubU> was reported
[19:25] <brainwash> link?
[19:25] <UbuxubU> i recall reading about it when it nailed me
[19:25] <UbuxubU> ill see if i can still find it
[19:26] <UbuxubU> https://askubuntu.com/questions/475679/xubuntu-panel-disappears-every-time-i-restart
[19:27] <Krock> that's not a bug report
[19:27] <UbuxubU> but it was reported
[19:27] <Krock> it's a regular question which will not result in any coding efforts
[19:28] <UbuxubU> so we found an unreported bug that has exsisted in buntu for a decade?
[19:28] <brainwash> this askubuntu page does not mention xfce4-panel being uninstalled on dist upgrade
[19:28] <UbuxubU> they all did it
[19:28] <brainwash> it's possible that the panel crashes for some reason, and the current session state is saved upon logout
[19:29] <brainwash> next time you log in the panel won't be started automatically
[19:30] <UbuxubU> that possibility has been a relaity for a loooooong time
[19:30] <UbuxubU> reality*
[19:30] <brainwash> not much the Devs can do about this, unless it gets reported
[19:30] <brainwash> to them
[19:30] <brainwash> and not some 3rd party website
[19:31] <UbuxubU> i know evertime i report a bug it says "timeout try again later"
[19:32] <UbuxubU> i tried 3 times yesterday on a different issue
[19:32] <UbuxubU> i think a lot of ppl just give up
[19:32] <brainwash> which bug tracker?
[19:34] <UbuxubU> in my case was launchpad  report a bug  and i did it manaully
[19:35] <UbuxubU> but even before i did that i went to the devs and told them but they said "dont report it to us"
[19:35] <UbuxubU> so im like i tried the other way and it crashed me on a timout 3 times
[19:35] <UbuxubU> ill have to try xubuntu launchpad  is it different?
[19:35] <brainwash> you make it sound like no one wants your feedback or crash reports
[19:36] <UbuxubU> no im not saying that im just telling u what happened
[19:36] <brainwash> xubuntu launchpad?
[19:36] <brainwash> there is only one launchpad
[19:36] <UbuxubU> ok then ive done it
[19:36] <brainwash> and the Xfce bug tracker
[19:36] <brainwash> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/
[19:37] <brainwash> this is the place where Xfce devs read bug reports
[19:37] <UbuxubU> ok well i just installed this so i havent had on to launch yet here but had one for ubuntu before i wiped ubuntu for xubuntu
[19:37] <UbuxubU> ill take that link though
[19:39] <UbuxubU> dp u know how to make it so i dont have to find and execute my plank after every reboot?
[19:39] <brainwash> add it to the autostart
[19:39] <UbuxubU> ok ill look for that thanks
[19:39] <brainwash> settings > session and startup > ...
[19:42] <UbuxubU> plank isnt listed
[19:43] <UbuxubU> unless imsupposedto save the session
[19:43] <brainwash> >add
[19:43] <UbuxubU> is that what u mean
[19:43] <UbuxubU> i did try add
[19:43] <brainwash> are you in the correct tab?
[19:43] <UbuxubU> setting and stat up
[19:43] <brainwash> ok
[19:43] <brainwash> and the tab?
[19:44] <UbuxubU> trying again
[19:44] <UbuxubU> application start up right?
[19:44] <brainwash> yes
[19:45] <UbuxubU> add
[19:45] <UbuxubU> its blanck
[19:45] <UbuxubU> and when i type itin nothing happens
[19:45] <UbuxubU> the ok doesnt light up
[19:46] <brainwash> well
[19:46] <UbuxubU> i think it also wansts a comand
[19:46] <Spass> UbuxubU, you need to enter the name (for example "Plank") and the command ("plank")
[19:46] <UbuxubU> ok
[19:46] <brainwash> ah c'mon
[19:47] <UbuxubU> thought command was like sudo .... hehe
[19:47] <UbuxubU> ok lets see if it works
[20:05] <balsaq> wow that worked
[20:05] <balsaq> better service in this chat
[20:06]  * irgendwer4711 back
[20:06] <balsaq> wb irgendwer4711
[20:06] <irgendwer4711> brainwash: yes, xubuntu-desktop is missing
[20:10] <Spass> balsaq, also, not sure if you know it, but you can click 'Ctrl+right mouse button' on Plank to get to its Preferences
[20:12] <balsaq> no i did not thank you
[20:23] <soreau> does the 18.10 64bit iso work in vbox? it just gives black screen with blinking cursor forever here
[20:25] <brainwash> soreau: works for me
[20:25] <soreau> huh, I checked the md5sum..
[20:25] <soreau> and previous iterations of xubuntu have worked in this same vm
[20:25] <brainwash> does the 18.04 one work?
[20:25] <soreau> let me try
[20:26] <soreau> yes I see ubuntu 18.04 and it boots
[20:28] <balsaq> here is my desktop after getting some help in here  http://i.imgur.com/XAp3DHH.png
[20:32] <brainwash> soreau: https://i.imgur.com/6KRvS3s.png
[20:33] <brainwash> version 5.2.20
[20:33] <soreau> ok let me try upgrading vbox
[20:33] <soreau> could be some kernel thing
[20:34] <soreau> 5.2.10 here fwiw
[20:37] <ondondil> 5.2.10 here too, cosmic runs fine in vbox
[20:44] <soreau> here it doesn't
[20:44] <soreau> it just sits with blinking cursor forever, again 18.04 boots
[20:44] <soreau> on 5.2.20
[20:50] <soreau> hey I figured it out
[20:51] <soreau> I noticed that in system settings for the vm, the paravirtualization interface was set to Legacy. Setting it to default fixed things
[21:01] <balsaq> ijust tried transmission and xfce burn and it worked nice
[21:04] <balsaq> took only about 5 min to get an entire OS
[23:29] <charquiche> greetings peps ;)
[23:30] <charquiche> am new on ubuntu ... hope i could find some help here ...