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Balsaqis anyone here who can help with a small problem?01:18
Balsaqi need to adjust my screen brightness and kubuntu cant do it01:31
DrecondiusHow can I check the boot logs for a live distro? I caught a message about a hardware error and It keeps fading before I can read it. I'm on a laptop and the kernel doesn't seem to recognize my fn key01:34
Drecondiusrather the key combo01:34
Balsaqyeah similar to my problem01:34
Drecondiusit wouldn't be much of a problem except 18.04.1 seems to like this alienware even less than 16.04.101:35
Balsaqkubuntu does not recognizes it own brightness/dimmer switch or my Fn funtion to do same thing01:36
Balsaqso it is going to kill my laptop battery fast01:36
Drecondiuswell, for me it doesn't recognize the touchpad, home,end,delete / prntscrn, pause, insert combos01:37
Balsaqdamn01:37
Drecondiusbut it has NO problem with a logitech g910 ....01:38
Drecondiusi even get events for the macro keys01:38
Drecondiusfml01:38
Balsaqno ryme or rreason to what they do01:38
Balsaqjust nleave stuff out01:38
Drecondiusminor issues to be honest, the events are firing but not recognized01:38
Drecondiusthe keystroke events01:39
DrecondiusIf i was to build this with persistance, could i force it to log the boot?01:39
Drecondiusif I can't get logs otherwise?01:40
Balsaqand it gets worse...if i go back to xubuntu it All works01:40
Balsaqi just had xubunut and the brightness worked01:40
Balsaqcan u beleive it01:40
DrecondiusI can. Xfce is awesome when You want things to just work oob01:41
Drecondiusexcept for this blasted alienware01:41
Drecondiusit hates it too01:41
Balsaqima have to go back then01:41
Balsaqi would of thought kubuntu was much more advanced01:41
DrecondiusYou could, in theory just install KDE on top of Xubuntu01:42
Balsaqwould it look like this alll over01:42
Drecondiusonly if you did kubuntu-desktop01:42
Drecondiusbut01:42
Balsaqwouldnt that break my brightness contro lall over01:42
Balsaqu could do same try xubuntu01:43
DrecondiusI'm guessing that no live distro logs boot without persistance01:43
Balsaqkubuntu is onlky using a half gb a ram01:44
Balsaqweird01:44
Balsaqnot much more than xubuntu01:44
valorieadjusting light/dark and all other fn keys work here01:44
DrecondiusYou on a live distro?01:44
valorieSysinfo for 'valorie-Oryx-Pro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.14.2 on Ubuntu 18.10 (Cosmic Cuttlefish) powered by Linux 4.18.0-10-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 2599-2600/3800 MHz, RAM: 30493/32118 MB, Storage: 374/1144 GB, 235 procs, 261.5h up01:44
Drecondiuspersistence*01:44
Balsaqi have intel i5 here and it doesnt work01:44
valoriethere is xkey or something where you can map keys01:45
valoriebut I've never had to do it01:45
Balsaqid prefer to just use the OS01:45
Drecondiusthis is a 2011 alienware 14 lol. I'm not worried about the function keys atm. I just need to check the boot logs for the hardware errors.01:45
IrcsomeBot1<DarinMiller> Do the brightness keys not work or does the battery/brightness widget next to clock also not work?01:46
Drecondiusthey left.01:47
IrcsomeBot1<DarinMiller> dang, telegram does not advertise when people exit01:48
Drecondiuspidgin or konversation :D01:48
IrcsomeBot1<DarinMiller> yep :)01:48
Drecondiusnow firefox loads ....01:49
Drecondiuscan i open a terminal directly in a folder?01:52
Drecondiusnvm01:52
Drecondiusis there a slightly more technical channel i ca go to?01:55
Drecondiuscan*01:55
Drecondiussyslog says my bios is broken01:56
Drecondiusor is it because it's a live distro that doesn't have the intel microcode running?01:58
Drecondiushere is the first error, I need a little insight here : https://hastebin.com/iperabonih.sql02:13
DragnslcrIt probably isn't specific to Kubuntu, so you could try #ubuntu02:14
DragnslcrThere's usually a more active crowd there02:14
IrcsomeBot1<Valoriez> ugh, for some reason whatever I type in irc disappears02:17
IrcsomeBot1<Valoriez> oh well, telegram works02:17
Drecondiusso does kde require a reboot or does a simple logout work when enabling the non-free nvidia drivers02:18
IrcsomeBot1<Valoriez> Drecondius in Dolphin you can open a terminal02:18
Drecondiusalready figured that out lol02:18
IrcsomeBot1<Valoriez> ok, cool02:19
IrcsomeBot1<Valoriez> nvidia requires a reboot, not "kde"02:19
Drecondiusnot on mate or gnome with lightdm02:19
Drecondiusjust log out and back in02:19
Drecondiushence the question.02:19
Drecondiusalmost double posted.02:20
IrcsomeBot1<Valoriez> hmmm02:20
IrcsomeBot1<Valoriez> ok, you can try that02:20
Drecondiusgdm requires a reboot, but this is the plasma stack so I don't know squat about it.02:20
IrcsomeBot1<Valoriez> imo one is just as easy as the other so I've never tested it02:20
Drecondiusi'll give it a shot, see if this helps the tearing02:21
DrecondiusI may not be using Kubuntu :(02:24
DrecondiusI only have 3.83 gb ram usable02:24
DarinMillerwhat model nvidia card?02:25
DarinMiller3.83 GB is plenty of ram for KDE.02:25
Drecondiusnot for kde and modded Minecraft02:25
Drecondiussysinfo says i'm using the intel hd02:25
DarinMillerhow much ram does MC consume?02:26
Drecondius5-8 if you let it02:26
DrecondiusEnigmatica 2 and All the Mods 3 both require a minimum of 6gb to run playably02:27
Drecondiusit's due to the system taking 2gb for the video02:27
DrecondiusMaybe if I can find how to activate drivers I can alleviate 2gb overhead02:28
Drecondiusthe discrete on here is an Nvidia 750 GT with 2GB ram dedicated to the card02:30
DarinMillereliminate screen tearing by turning on Force Comp. Pipeline in the NVida Setting menu.02:31
Drecondiushave to enable nvidia binary first02:31
DarinMilleryep02:32
Drecondiuswhat's this meta package in the management software, is it for the latest untested drivers?02:32
DarinMillernot sure what you mean by meta package...02:33
Drecondiusit's got a listing for the 340 binary and a meta package then noeveau02:34
Drecondiusit won't logout02:34
DarinMillerthe 750GT should use the 396 driver, not the 340.02:35
DarinMillerLive session won't logout?02:36
valorieyou can add them via systemsettings or use the PPA for the newer drivers if necessary02:36
valorieoh, live session02:36
DarinMillerThe 340 driver has an issues with logout shutdown after install.  But you should not use that driver with your card.02:36
Drecondiusi know i shouldn't, as it never functions properly on any distro02:37
Drecondiusidea02:38
Drecondiusbrb02:38
DrecondiusI hope02:38
drecondiusOk, I'm back anyone that I was speaking with still here?03:38
valorienope03:38
drecondiusWell hello there :P03:38
drecondiusOk, NOW it has much less ram used and it's using swap03:38
drecondiusso I have my 7ish GB ram03:39
drecondiusworking ram anyways lol03:39
drecondiusSo, it would appear that It didn't create an efi entry03:40
drecondiusI had to reboot to kubuntu after an install via usb then boot to hd.03:40
drecondiusany idea as to why?03:40
drecondiusor do i need to install grub and have it take over duties?03:41
drecondiusif it's not already installed that is?03:41
drecondiusthat'll be after updates03:42
valoriegrub should have been automatically installed03:49
valoriewhen you rebooted, didn't you see it?03:49
valorieif not, perhaps run repair-grub or update-grub03:50
valorie!grub03:50
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub203:50
drecondiusHow well does this distro handle Optimus laptops?04:43
valorie!optimus04:49
ubottuUbuntu uses nvidia-prime to support optimus videocards.04:49
valorieI don't honestly know -- I don't hear complaints but that might mean people just don't use kubuntu with optimus04:50
valorieor it could mean that nvidia-prime is flawless04:51
valorie:-)04:51
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drecondiusbah, have to reinstall due to it running in mbr instead of efi05:45
drecondiusbut at least it's a clean install otherwise so nothing lost05:46
hateballwell you *can* fix it afterwards, but if it's a clean install it's likely faster to reinstall05:49
drecondiusit is lol, it didn't hit me that it wasn't efi until after the 4th or 5th reboot and it not booting into grub lol05:54
drecondiusit's a dual boot with windows atm because I'm not the only one that uses this laptop and everyone else is scared to try to learn something familiar yet different.05:55
hateballheh05:55
drecondiusumm, how big is an efi partition, windows is showing it's efi is 104mb do i need to give kubuntu one that big too?05:56
drecondiusI've never really paid that much attention before to them.05:57
drecondiususually just wiped out everything on the drive05:57
hateballthe EFI partition is shared06:01
drecondiusso i can get away with just setting up a grub partition and letting it go from there then06:02
hateballdrecondius: grub is stored on the EFI/ESP partition06:03
hateballand then loads your kernel from /boot on your "normal" partition06:04
hateball!efi06:04
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI06:04
drecondiusYeah, I was just realizing that after you said it that all I have to do is define my root.06:04
drecondiusand a small swap as well06:05
drecondiusand assuming I managed this correctly, I'll boot into grub, if I didn't I'll be kicking myself for being lazy and wiping out 200GB of Steam Library06:07
drecondiusthen my son will kick me too06:07
valoriemaybe run a quick backup of that steam folder?06:36
MrokiiHello. I have a problem with the global menu bar. I have a panel on the left side and the menu bar on top, but sometimes parts of the menu bar are hidden below the vertical panel. Is there a way to shorten the menu bar, so that is starts were the vertical panel ends?07:33
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Captain_HaddockIs anyone else getting hash-sum mismatches when running apt-get ?08:16
ackeronukwhich mirror?08:19
ackeronukmain and gb mirror seem to update ok08:23
Captain_Haddockackeronuk: Thanks. Switching to GB helped. I'd tried both India and the Main server.08:29
Captain_HaddockAny idea why this has been happening only recently?08:29
ackeronukit just happens every so often with mirror synchronisation08:30
ackeronukusually sorts itself out. sometimes, not very often, needs some mirror admins to kick things08:31
ackeronukit happens with such a big network08:31
Captain_HaddockIt just seems to be happening with alarming regularity nowadays. I've never encountered it before.08:36
DoowHi, I'm trying to upgrade 18.04 to 18.10 with "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" and I get "Upgrades to the development release are only available from the latest supported release."08:38
DoowFor some reason lsb_release -a doesn't say anything about kubuntu, but just mentions ubuntu, is that normal? (when running kubuntu I mean =) )08:40
ackeronukDoow: 18.10 is not the development release, so you should not be using the -d08:55
ackeronukthe -d is ONLY intended for updating to the devel release08:55
ackeronukhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CosmicUpgrades/Kubuntu08:56
Doowackeronuk: That was it, thank you!08:59
ackeronukDoow: great. a lot of blog sites wanting to jump the gun on upgrade instructions falsely include the -d, as it might work ok for a short period pre-post release. wrong to advise it though09:03
BluesKajHi folks10:39
pbourkesince the clocks went back an hour my clock widget is showing the wrong time (the system clock is correct)12:08
pbourkeanyone seen this bug?12:09
ackeronukclock is ok here12:13
Captain_HaddockHi BluesKaj :)12:24
BluesKajHi Captain_Haddock12:24
Captain_HaddockI've seen that many people have a dual monitor setup. How do you use yours with KDE? Any tips or tricks?12:26
* Captain_Haddock recently got one working but I don't seem to use it much. ALT + TAB still seems to be more effective.12:26
Captain_HaddockI've gotten some apps to open in the second monitor and it's kinda handy when I have a full screen app and I want to use the browser oslt.12:27
Javabeanmy current "second monitor" is a tv, so i usually have a twitch stream/ youtube video/ etc running on it.  sometimes however i just let my random wallpapers run wild on it and it becomes something to refocus my eyes on hoping to reduce eyestrain by occasionally looking at it.12:29
BluesKajCaptain_Haddock, I'm a home user and use my TV as a monitor so no need for multiple screens here, hence no experiennce with them12:29
rgvonHow to change my default text editor to Sublime for all files? I am able to change it manually for a particular file type (like .cpp) by doing right-click->properties.13:25
rgvonI am using Kubuntu 18.04.13:25
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QuantosHey guys, this is probably an easy one, I have two monitors and both are working flawlessly, but programs that I open are opening on the secondary monitor instead of the primary monitor.  Is there a setting to get them to open on the primary?  KUbuntu 18.0415:54
QuantosOh, and GT 1030 with the nVidia driver15:54
drecondiusHow do I change the identity that I log in with via ssh?15:59
drecondiusbecause it's trying to use my local host name and I don't need that one and the -l tells me invalid hostname16:01
Alexfrenchhttps://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/multi-ecran16:20
QuantosUnfortunately I don't read French, so.....16:24
Alexfrenchbha learn16:26
Alexfrenchdo you think i am english ?16:27
QuantosI don't really care what language you can speak or read16:28
QuantosI only know the ones I can read and speak16:28
BluesKajAlexfrench, well if you want to post urls here, they should really be in English16:28
QuantosAnd I'm still learning french16:28
Alexfrenchrhha i know but really it isn't hard to make efforts16:29
QuantosThat shoe goes on your foot too16:29
QuantosOr do you think you're special?16:29
Alexfrenchso ok i close my mouth16:30
QuantosFair enough, so will I16:30
rgvonUnable to use tap and drag gesture of touchpad on Kubuntu 18.04. I am able to select the icon but it doesn't get dragged. I am able to use all other functions of touchpad.16:54
rgvonPlease help.16:54
IrcsomeBot1<DarinMiller> System Settings -> Input Device -> Touchpad : Select Mouse Click Emulation17:07
MrokiiHello. I have a problem with the global menu bar. I have a panel on the left side and the menu bar on top, but sometimes parts of the menu bar are hidden below the vertical panel. Is there a way to shorten the menu bar, so that is starts were the vertical panel ends?17:12
Captain_HaddockJavabean: BluesKaj: Thanks. (I forgot about my question.)  Are your TVs on your desk or are they a long way away?17:16
MrokiiI think I just answered my own question (kind of)... I added a spacer to the left side of the menu bar.17:16
Captain_HaddockAnd is there any way to screen timeout the second monitor?17:16
IrcsomeBot1<Matheus Vinicius> How to restart plasma shell?17:17
Captain_HaddockMrokii: If you go into the edit panel mode, I believe that you can also shorten the overall length of the panel as well.17:18
MrokiiCaptain_Haddock: I looked for that and even saw the cursor changing to a horizontal arrow, but for some reason I couldn't shorten the menu bar.17:19
MrokiiCaptain_Haddock: Wait, it just worked. o.O I just have done something wrong before when I tried that. Thanks for pointing that out, I wouldn't have tried that once more. :)17:21
R13oseHow do I help make Kubuntu better?17:29
BluesKajCaptain_Haddock, My Tv is part of my media system which includes my desktop pc and a complete audio system17:33
BluesKajR13ose, use it and report any bugs :-)17:34
R13oseWhat if I do report bugs when a app crashes, where can I look for them?17:35
BluesKajyou should have red crash icon appear in your system tray when an app crashes due to a bug, click on it and you'll see instructions on how to file a bug , or read below17:37
BluesKaj!bug17:37
ubottuIf you find a bug in Kubuntu, please follow the instructions at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting to report the issue to the developers.17:37
BluesKajR13ose,^17:38
R13oseThanks17:38
BluesKajYou're welcome17:38
R13oseIs that wiki page broken?17:40
Captain_HaddockMrokii: Cool :)17:40
Captain_HaddockBluesKaj: So the TV is not on your desk?17:41
BluesKajThe tv is on a media desk 10ft away from my easy chairand the pc is connected to audio system and the tv ...using wireless KB and mouse at my easy chair17:44
Captain_HaddockOooh17:45
BluesKajbasically it's a HTPC17:45
Captain_HaddockI'm surprised that you can IRC from 10 feet away :)17:46
Captain_HaddockLarge fonts + large screen?17:46
Alexfrench800*600 on a large screen lol17:46
BluesKajwireless keyboard and mouse to a wireless usb dongle connected to the pc17:47
Captain_HaddockR13ose: It does look a little broken :( I believe that the launchpad links are the important ones.17:47
BluesKajuhmm,  1920x108017:47
Captain_HaddockI do have a similar (separate) setup, but it's purely for running Kodi.17:48
BluesKajAlexfrench, ^17:48
BluesKajI have kodi installled on this pc17:48
Alexfrenchi was joking lol17:49
Alexfrenchsorry17:49
BluesKajyou don 't need a separate rpi or pc to run kodi17:50
Alexfrenchif i didn't have children me too i'd like to get large screen plug in my pc17:53
IrcsomeBot1shanepagne was added by: shanepagne20:59
IrcsomeBot1<shanepagne> Hello20:59
IrcsomeBot1<shanepagne> I have had a lot of trouble with my touchpad starting with Kubuntu 18.10 (it's the same on all the 18.10 flavors. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. As you can imagine, right now it is not working at all21:00
R13oseshanepagne: what is the computer you are using?21:01
IrcsomeBot1<shanepagne> It's a weird one. Dell Venue 11 Pro21:02
IrcsomeBot1<shanepagne> Tablet that plugs into a keyboard21:02
IrcsomeBot1<shanepagne> so weird. out of nowhere it just began working...21:04
IrcsomeBot1<shanepagne> but it seems my settings reset for it21:06
R13oseshanepagne: did you change them?21:07
IrcsomeBot1<shanepagne> I did yesterday, but haven't touched them since. Today I booted and it wasn't working. As I was typing here it began to work21:08
R13oseshanepagne: was this working before the settings reset?21:08
IrcsomeBot1<shanepagne> Unsure. I had checked the settings when it was not working and it said they were reset, so I set them up again. It didn't fix it, but when it suddenly started working I noticed my scrolling was wrong and the acceleration was slow, so going back into settings it said they were reset again21:10
R13oseAnd?21:12
IrcsomeBot1<shanepagne> I set them back up and it's still working as of the moment. I'm just not sure what's causing it to not work when that happens21:13
R13oseCan you look at error logs?21:13
IrcsomeBot1<shanepagne> I rebooted to see what would happen. Touchpad not working again21:14
IrcsomeBot1<shanepagne> I assume this is it?21:16
IrcsomeBot1<shanepagne> 10/30/18 5:13 PM  i2c_hid i2c-SMO91D0  0: failed to retrieve report from device. … 10/30/18 5:13 PM  i2c_hid i2c-SMO91D0  0: failed to set a report to device. … 10/30/18 5:13 PM  i2c_hid i2c-SMO91D0  0: failed to retrieve report from device.21:16
valoriesounds like a internal problem between the tablet and keyboard perhaps?21:41
valoriecan you check the connection or cable between them21:42
valoriefailing cables are notorious for sometimes working and sometimes not21:42
IrcsomeBot1<shanepagne> I'm not sure. I was googling around and some say it's a kernel bug since 4.1322:04
IrcsomeBot1<shanepagne> Misread actually, that said touchscreen which is working here...22:08
IrcsomeBot1<Faszinosium42> I have an offtopic question - where can I ask ?22:13
valorie@faszinosium42 - depends on what the subject is?23:24
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IrcsomeBot1<Faszinosium42> LaTeX23:49

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