| zap0 | hi, i have a netbook running 18.04 i read somewhere i could do: sudo do-release-upgrade | 07:42 |
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| zap0 | i tried that, and it said there is no new | 07:42 |
| zap0 | is this not how it's done? | 07:42 |
| lynorian | zap0 18.04 to 18.10 can be quite a wierd job and is not officialy supported since 18.10 uses lxqt and 18.04 is still the gtk2 lxde | 07:44 |
| lynorian | well 18.04 is lts so you have to tell it to check for every new version | 07:44 |
| zap0 | ah ok. | 07:44 |
| lynorian | https://manual.lubuntu.me/D/upgrading.html is if you really want to go through with this | 07:45 |
| zap0 | as long as i update regularly is there really any reasons to upgrade to 18.10 then? | 07:45 |
| lynorian | do you want to use LXQt | 07:45 |
| lynorian | over LXDE | 07:46 |
| zap0 | i have no need for that. | 07:46 |
| lynorian | then 18.04 probably makes more sense for that case | 07:46 |
| zap0 | ok. thank you. appreciate the sage advice. | 07:47 |
| onla | Hey. I am trying to find how I am running ibus anthy automatically on boot. I have lubuntu 14.04 (sys v init I guess) and i3 window manager. For example where are the files that are added originally from Open System > Preferences > Startup Applications | 11:12 |
| onla | or similar | 11:12 |
| Yohkii | Hey I get some random stutters in my video playback with mpv on Lubuntu 18.10 with Intel HD Graphics 5500 GPU. Any idea how to troubleshoot this? | 11:45 |
| leszek | Yohkii: I am suprised it is only a video problem. Usually on modern intel gpus nothing works as expected anymore | 11:46 |
| lubot | <Marcelo Pugliesi> Unfortunately it's a problem affecting all variants of 18.10 | 11:46 |
| Yohkii | :C | 11:46 |
| leszek | The intel driver is utter crap and modesettings breaks here and there aswell | 11:46 |
| Yohkii | The strange thing is I can play the same bit of video twice and the stutter only happens the first time | 11:46 |
| leszek | so up until sandy bridge (Intel HD3000) you can use the intel driver everything after it and it runs like ...... | 11:47 |
| leszek | Yohkii: try another backend maybe for the video acceleration | 11:47 |
| leszek | mpv should use opengl by default I suppose. Try vaapi if available or even the old xv | 11:47 |
| Yohkii | tried both vaapi and xv, takes a bit longer to stutter but still happens | 11:48 |
| Yohkii | The console don't really report anyhing when it happens, it just seems to count two/three seconds really fast all of a sudden | 11:48 |
| Yohkii | CPU reports >10% usage on all cores too, so I just don't get it | 11:49 |
| leszek | ok thats weird then. Does it happen with another video player like vlc aswell? | 11:49 |
| Yohkii | Same thing with vlc | 11:50 |
| Yohkii | I'll try some different output optins in VLC, I guess | 11:51 |
| leszek | Yohkii: otherwise also install inxi and give me the output of inxi -G | 11:53 |
| Yohkii | Graphics: Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 driver: i915 v: kernel | 11:53 |
| Yohkii | Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.1 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa | 11:53 |
| Yohkii | resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz | 11:53 |
| Yohkii | OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 5500 (Broadwell GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.2.2 | 11:53 |
| lubot | <Marcelo Pugliesi> Configure vlc to use X11 output video | 12:06 |
| lubot | <Marcelo Pugliesi> Disable system effects | 12:06 |
| lubot | <Marcelo Pugliesi> Install Oibaf newest xorg and Mesa drivers | 12:07 |
| lubot | <Marcelo Pugliesi> For me get a little better | 12:07 |
| lubot | <Marcelo Pugliesi> But things are really bad with gnome | 12:08 |
| Yohkii | Thanks, I'll try that | 12:09 |
| lubot | <Marcelo Pugliesi> There are some tutorials to enable dri3 on Intel HD graphics | 12:11 |
| lubot | <Marcelo Pugliesi> Some cases help too | 12:11 |
| Yohkii | Now only audio output is jumpy, and less often... | 13:11 |
| lubot | verywellfandango was added by: verywellfandango | 15:42 |
| Wick | Hello | 16:37 |
| wxl | just saying hi? | 16:38 |
| Wick | I need help | 16:40 |
| wxl | !ask | 16:40 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 16:40 |
| Wick | !patience | 16:41 |
| ubottu | Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ | 16:41 |
| Wick | Thank's | 16:41 |
| Wick | I'm in lubuntu 18.10 and I'm forced to start telegram via Terminal, because in the menu it does not appear to me, how can I solve it? I have already tried to uninstall and reinstall but I have not solved it. | 16:42 |
| wxl | how did you install it? | 16:43 |
| Wick | sudo apt-get install telegram | 16:43 |
| wxl | you mean telegram-desktop? | 16:44 |
| Wick | or sudo apt-get install telegram-desktop | 16:44 |
| Wick | Yes telegram-desktop | 16:44 |
| wxl | if that installed correctly you should have a /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop | 16:44 |
| Wick | Permission denided | 16:45 |
| Wick | denied * | 16:45 |
| wxl | permission denied doing what? | 16:46 |
| Wick | I tried to search /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop in the terminal, but it tells me permission denied | 16:46 |
| wxl | yeah i can't reprorudce that behavior | 16:52 |
| wxl | how did you try to search? | 16:53 |
| Wick | by writing to the /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop terminal | 16:55 |
| wxl | you mean you entered in: | 16:56 |
| wxl | /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop | 16:56 |
| wxl | and hit enter? | 16:56 |
| Wick | yes | 16:56 |
| wxl | apparently you're not familiar with the terminal, as that does not search, but attempts to execute it | 16:56 |
| wxl | you can use the `cat` command before it to list its contents | 16:57 |
| Wick | [Desktop Entry] | 17:06 |
| Wick | Version=1.0 | 17:06 |
| Wick | Name=Telegram Desktop | 17:06 |
| Wick | Comment=Official desktop version of Telegram messaging app | 17:06 |
| Wick | Exec=telegram-desktop -- %u | 17:06 |
| Wick | Icon=telegram | 17:06 |
| Wick | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yyjVsvWs5M/ | 17:08 |
| wxl | Wick: it has no "Category" key? | 17:33 |
| wxl | Catgories, that is | 17:34 |
| wxl | here's the file from debian, which should be consistent with ubuntu https://salsa.debian.org/debian/telegram-desktop/blob/debian/master/lib/xdg/telegramdesktop.desktop | 17:35 |
| wxl | with the Network category, it should end up in network | 17:36 |
| Wick | it is identical | 17:37 |
| wxl | based on the version number, it doesn't seem ubuntu has made any changes to the debian package | 17:37 |
| Wick | uhm | 17:38 |
| wxl | so look in the "Internet" category | 17:38 |
| Wick | there is not... | 17:39 |
| wxl | even across reboots? | 17:39 |
| Wick | Exact | 17:40 |
| wxl | weird | 17:42 |
| wxl | works for me | 17:42 |
| wxl | in a terminal do `ls -al /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop | awk '{print $1, $3, $4}'` | 17:43 |
| wxl | what do you get from that? | 17:43 |
| Wick | -rw-r--r-- root root | 17:46 |
| wxl | and that all looks good | 17:47 |
| lubot | <bonacin91> whats minimum space required for 18.10? | 17:48 |
| lubot | <bonacin91> for VM | 17:48 |
| wxl | we don't really publish minimums but 8gb should be sufficient | 17:49 |
| lubot | <bonacin91> no no I meant space | 17:50 |
| wxl | disk space, right? | 17:50 |
| lubot | <bonacin91> ye ! | 17:50 |
| wxl | that's the question i responded to | 17:50 |
| lubot | <bonacin91> you did | 17:51 |
| lubot | <bonacin91> thansk | 17:51 |
| wxl | Wick: does `desktop-file-validate /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop` return anything? | 17:51 |
| wxl | 3 times now i have installed the telegram-desktop deb package. each time it immediately adds the "Telegram Desktop" entry in the "Internet" category between "Quassel IRC" and "Trojitá." each time, i purged it and it was immediately removed. | 17:54 |
| wxl | is it possible you installed the snap package instead? | 17:55 |
| Wick | I do not think I installed telegram with sudo apt-get install telegram-desktop | 17:57 |
| wxl | how did you install it? | 17:57 |
| Wick | terminal | 17:58 |
| wxl | then you either did that or you installed the snap package | 17:58 |
| Wick | that i remember no... | 17:59 |
| wxl | which would generally involve you using the snap command rather than apt | 17:59 |
| wxl | are you saying you don't remember/ | 17:59 |
| Wick | Remember to have installed telegram only through the command: sudo apt-get install telegram-desktop | 18:00 |
| wxl | if that's the case, i have repeated the same exact behavior and it works fine for me | 18:00 |
| wxl | at least on 18.10 | 18:00 |
| Wick | um ... then are you done to completely remove telegram-desktop from Lubuntu? I reinstall it maybe I "appears" | 18:02 |
| wxl | i'm having trouble understanding you but to completely remove it and all dependencies you would do: | 18:03 |
| wxl | sudo apt purge telegram-desktop | 18:03 |
| wxl | sudo apt autoremove | 18:03 |
| Wick | now reinstall telegram ? | 18:05 |
| wxl | again, i did an install and then that 3 times over and each time it did what it was supposed to | 18:05 |
| wxl | if your intention is to uninstall and reinstall, then yes, you would `sudo apt install telegram-desktop` | 18:05 |
| Wick | there is not telegram on Internet >_< | 18:07 |
| wxl | are you sure you have 18.10? | 18:08 |
| wxl | `lsb_release -r` should tell you | 18:08 |
| wxl | also it might be interesting to see what `apt-cache policy telegram-desktop` tells you. | 18:08 |
| Wick | yes 'im sure 18.10 | 18:13 |
| wxl | is it a fresh install or an upgrade? | 18:13 |
| wxl | and you're sure this is lubuntu? XD | 18:13 |
| Wick | Hahahahahaha, yes lubuntu 18.10 | 18:14 |
| wxl | fresh install or upgrade? | 18:14 |
| Wick | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Ww5QB8MPJ8/ | 18:14 |
| Wick | fresh install | 18:15 |
| wxl | yeah i'm at a loss | 18:15 |
| wxl | everything looks normal from what i can tell | 18:15 |
| wxl | a bug that can't be reproduced is, sadly, an unfixable bug :/ | 18:16 |
| wxl | try copying that .desktop file to your Desktop folder | 18:16 |
| wxl | you might be able to double click it there | 18:16 |
| wxl | alternately move it to ~/.local/share/applications, though i bet you'll have to chown it to your ownership | 18:17 |
| Wick | Telegram is not on the desktop, | 18:18 |
| wxl | copy it there | 18:19 |
| Wick | launch 'telegram-desktop' on terminal | 18:19 |
| Wick | what should i copy ? | 18:21 |
| Wick | sorry >_< | 18:21 |
| wxl | /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop | 18:21 |
| Wick | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sCJwkQ8tYv/ | 18:22 |
| wxl | no | 18:22 |
| wxl | copy the file | 18:22 |
| apt-ghetto | cat /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop > ~/.local/share/applications | 18:22 |
| wxl | paste the file in your desktop folder | 18:22 |
| apt-ghetto | then you do not have to change any permissions | 18:22 |
| Wick | tells me /home/name/.local/share/applications: it's a directory | 18:24 |
| wxl | XD | 18:25 |
| wxl | https://share.riseup.net/#etM3vb2tlgkEuH6lsCsFLQ | 18:26 |
| apt-ghetto | sorry: `cat /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop > | 18:27 |
| apt-ghetto | ~/.local/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop` | 18:27 |
| Wick | ok wxl, done | 18:30 |
| wxl | which is done? | 18:30 |
| Wick | i copied telegram to the desktop | 18:30 |
| wxl | so if you did everything i showed in that video, you should just be able to use it.. as i showed in the video | 18:30 |
| Wick | yes i can use it | 18:31 |
| wxl | horray | 18:32 |
| wxl | well we didn't solve the problem of getting the menu item to work, but at least you don't have to use the terminal to launch it | 18:32 |
| Wick | yes.... thank :D | 18:33 |
| wxl | np | 18:33 |
| Wick | thanks again! see you next time, bye bye | 18:34 |
| wxl | take care | 18:34 |
| Wick | i will learn | 18:35 |
| Wick | :) | 18:35 |
| === saptech_ is now known as saptech | ||
| sappheiros | Can you get the video at https://www.reddit.com/r/KidsAreFuckingStupid/comments/9smwye/little_brother_tried_to_impress_me/?st=jnw9157w&sh=aa8bc55c to load? Should I report this as a bug? | 21:34 |
| sappheiros | Even if I select 240p, the video image stops moving, while the playback status bar progresses as if the video is playing -- it's acting like the video's too much for this computer to handle, but the CPU and memory I'm sure are not maxed out ... | 21:35 |
| sappheiros | ... no, actually the CPU shows max in ctrl+alt+del window | 21:35 |
| sappheiros | (with the 2 GB RAM ~75% full) | 21:36 |
| sappheiros | when i close that video the CPU drops back down to ~30% (1.6 GHz CPU I think). so it seems that video maxes out the CPU and fails to render properly. is this a 1.6 GHz limitation? or should it be working? | 21:36 |
| sappheiros | (1.66 GHz) | 21:37 |
| sappheiros | (Intel T2300) | 21:37 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> in chromium worked for me | 22:13 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> remember that hw acceleration is not available in firefox nor chromium in linux | 22:16 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> you could try to get the video url (in this case https://v.redd.it/3ubh991b4bv11/HLSPlaylist.m3u8 ) and play it in vlc which has hw acceleration | 22:17 |
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