[07:42] <zap0> hi, i have a netbook  running 18.04  i read somewhere i could do:  sudo do-release-upgrade
[07:42] <zap0> i tried that, and it said there is no new
[07:42] <zap0> is this not how it's done?
[07:44] <lynorian> zap0 18.04 to 18.10 can be quite a wierd job and is not officialy supported since 18.10 uses lxqt and 18.04 is still the gtk2 lxde
[07:44] <lynorian> well 18.04 is lts so you have to tell it to check for every new version
[07:44] <zap0> ah ok.
[07:45] <lynorian> https://manual.lubuntu.me/D/upgrading.html is if you really want to go through with this
[07:45] <zap0> as long as i update regularly is there really any reasons to upgrade to 18.10 then?
[07:45] <lynorian> do you want to use LXQt
[07:46] <lynorian> over LXDE
[07:46] <zap0> i have no need for that.
[07:46] <lynorian> then 18.04 probably makes more sense for that case
[07:47] <zap0> ok. thank you.   appreciate the sage advice.
[11:12] <onla> Hey. I am trying to find how I am running ibus anthy automatically on boot. I have lubuntu 14.04 (sys v init I guess) and i3 window manager. For example where are the files that are added originally from Open System > Preferences > Startup Applications
[11:12] <onla> or similar
[11:45] <Yohkii> Hey I get some random stutters in my video playback with mpv on Lubuntu 18.10 with Intel HD Graphics 5500 GPU. Any idea how to troubleshoot this?
[11:46] <leszek> Yohkii: I am suprised it is only a video problem. Usually on modern intel gpus nothing works as expected anymore
[11:46] <Yohkii> :C
[11:46] <leszek> The intel driver is utter crap and modesettings breaks here and there aswell
[11:46] <Yohkii> The strange thing is I can play the same bit of video twice and the stutter only happens the first time
[11:47] <leszek> so up until sandy bridge (Intel HD3000) you can use the intel driver everything after it and it runs like ......
[11:47] <leszek> Yohkii: try another backend maybe for the video acceleration
[11:47] <leszek> mpv should use opengl by default I suppose. Try vaapi if available or even the old xv
[11:48] <Yohkii> tried both vaapi and xv, takes a bit longer to stutter but still happens
[11:48] <Yohkii> The console don't really report anyhing when it happens, it just seems to count two/three seconds really fast all of a sudden
[11:49] <Yohkii> CPU reports >10% usage on all cores too, so I just don't get it
[11:49] <leszek> ok thats weird then. Does it happen with another video player like vlc aswell?
[11:50] <Yohkii> Same thing with vlc
[11:51] <Yohkii> I'll try some different output optins in VLC, I guess
[11:53] <leszek> Yohkii: otherwise also install inxi and give me the output of inxi -G
[11:53] <Yohkii> Graphics:  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 driver: i915 v: kernel
[11:53] <Yohkii>            Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.1 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
[11:53] <Yohkii>            resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
[11:53] <Yohkii>            OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 5500 (Broadwell GT2) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.2.2
[12:09] <Yohkii> Thanks, I'll try that
[13:11] <Yohkii> Now only audio output is jumpy, and less often...
[16:37] <Wick> Hello
[16:38] <wxl> just saying hi?
[16:40] <Wick> I need help
[16:40] <wxl> !ask
[16:41] <Wick> !patience
[16:41] <Wick> Thank's
[16:42] <Wick> I'm in lubuntu 18.10 and I'm forced to start telegram via Terminal, because in the menu it does not appear to me, how can I solve it? I have already tried to uninstall and reinstall but I have not solved it.
[16:43] <wxl> how did you install it?
[16:43] <Wick> sudo apt-get install telegram
[16:44] <wxl> you mean telegram-desktop?
[16:44] <Wick> or sudo apt-get install telegram-desktop
[16:44] <Wick> Yes telegram-desktop
[16:44] <wxl> if that installed correctly you should have a /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop
[16:45] <Wick> Permission denided
[16:45] <Wick> denied *
[16:46] <wxl> permission denied doing what?
[16:46] <Wick> I tried to search /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop in the terminal, but it tells me permission denied
[16:52] <wxl> yeah i can't reprorudce that behavior
[16:53] <wxl> how did you try to search?
[16:55] <Wick> by writing to the /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop terminal
[16:56] <wxl> you mean you entered in:
[16:56] <wxl> /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop
[16:56] <wxl> and hit enter?
[16:56] <Wick> yes
[16:56] <wxl> apparently you're not familiar with the terminal, as that does not search, but attempts to execute it
[16:57] <wxl> you can use the `cat` command before it to list its contents
[17:06] <Wick> [Desktop Entry]
[17:06] <Wick> Version=1.0
[17:06] <Wick> Name=Telegram Desktop
[17:06] <Wick> Comment=Official desktop version of Telegram messaging app
[17:06] <Wick> Exec=telegram-desktop -- %u
[17:06] <Wick> Icon=telegram
[17:08] <Wick> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yyjVsvWs5M/
[17:33] <wxl> Wick: it has no "Category" key?
[17:34] <wxl> Catgories, that is
[17:35] <wxl> here's the file from debian, which should be consistent with ubuntu https://salsa.debian.org/debian/telegram-desktop/blob/debian/master/lib/xdg/telegramdesktop.desktop
[17:36] <wxl> with the Network category, it should end up in network
[17:37] <Wick> it is identical
[17:37] <wxl> based on the version number, it doesn't seem ubuntu has made any changes to the debian package
[17:38] <Wick> uhm
[17:38] <wxl> so look in the "Internet" category
[17:39] <Wick> there is not...
[17:39] <wxl> even across reboots?
[17:40] <Wick> Exact
[17:42] <wxl> weird
[17:42] <wxl> works for me
[17:43] <wxl> in a terminal do `ls -al /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop | awk '{print $1, $3, $4}'`
[17:43] <wxl> what do you get from that?
[17:46] <Wick> -rw-r--r-- root root
[17:47] <wxl> and that all looks good
 whats minimum space required for 18.10?
 for VM
[17:49] <wxl> we don't really publish minimums but 8gb should be sufficient
 no no I meant space
[17:50] <wxl> disk space, right?
 ye !
[17:50] <wxl> that's the question i responded to
 you did
 thansk
[17:51] <wxl> Wick: does `desktop-file-validate /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop` return anything?
[17:54] <wxl> 3 times now i have installed the telegram-desktop deb package. each time it immediately adds the "Telegram Desktop" entry in the "Internet" category between "Quassel IRC" and "Trojitá." each time, i purged it and it was immediately removed.
[17:55] <wxl> is it possible you installed the snap package instead?
[17:57] <Wick> I do not think I installed telegram with sudo apt-get install telegram-desktop
[17:57] <wxl> how did you install it?
[17:58] <Wick> terminal
[17:58] <wxl> then you either did that or you installed the snap package
[17:59] <Wick> that i remember no...
[17:59] <wxl> which would generally involve you using the snap command rather than apt
[17:59] <wxl> are you saying you don't remember/
[18:00] <Wick> Remember to have installed telegram only through the command: sudo apt-get install telegram-desktop
[18:00] <wxl> if that's the case, i have repeated the same exact behavior and it works fine for me
[18:00] <wxl> at least on 18.10
[18:02] <Wick> um ... then are you done to completely remove telegram-desktop from Lubuntu? I reinstall it maybe I "appears"
[18:03] <wxl> i'm having trouble understanding you but to completely remove it and all dependencies you would do:
[18:03] <wxl> sudo apt purge telegram-desktop
[18:03] <wxl> sudo apt autoremove
[18:05] <Wick> now reinstall telegram ?
[18:05] <wxl> again, i did an install and then that 3 times over and each time it did what it was supposed to
[18:05] <wxl> if your intention is to uninstall and reinstall, then yes, you would `sudo apt install telegram-desktop`
[18:07] <Wick> there is not telegram on Internet >_<
[18:08] <wxl> are you sure you have 18.10?
[18:08] <wxl> `lsb_release -r` should tell you
[18:08] <wxl> also it might be interesting to see what `apt-cache policy telegram-desktop` tells you.
[18:13] <Wick> yes 'im sure 18.10
[18:13] <wxl> is it a fresh install or an upgrade?
[18:13] <wxl> and you're sure this is lubuntu? XD
[18:14] <Wick> Hahahahahaha,  yes lubuntu 18.10
[18:14] <wxl> fresh install or upgrade?
[18:14] <Wick> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Ww5QB8MPJ8/
[18:15] <Wick> fresh install
[18:15] <wxl> yeah i'm at a loss
[18:15] <wxl> everything looks normal from what i can tell
[18:16] <wxl> a bug that can't be reproduced is, sadly, an unfixable bug :/
[18:16] <wxl> try copying that .desktop file to your Desktop folder
[18:16] <wxl> you might be able to double click it there
[18:17] <wxl> alternately move it to ~/.local/share/applications, though i bet you'll have to chown it to your ownership
[18:18] <Wick> Telegram is not on the desktop,
[18:19] <wxl> copy it there
[18:19] <Wick> launch 'telegram-desktop' on terminal
[18:21] <Wick> what should i copy ?
[18:21] <Wick> sorry >_<
[18:21] <wxl> /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop
[18:22] <Wick> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sCJwkQ8tYv/
[18:22] <wxl> no
[18:22] <wxl> copy the file
[18:22] <apt-ghetto> cat /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop > ~/.local/share/applications
[18:22] <wxl> paste the file in your desktop folder
[18:22] <apt-ghetto> then you do not have to change any permissions
[18:24] <Wick> tells me /home/name/.local/share/applications: it's a directory
[18:25] <wxl> XD
[18:26] <wxl> https://share.riseup.net/#etM3vb2tlgkEuH6lsCsFLQ
[18:27] <apt-ghetto> sorry: `cat /usr/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop >
[18:27] <apt-ghetto>              ~/.local/share/applications/telegramdesktop.desktop`
[18:30] <Wick> ok wxl, done
[18:30] <wxl> which is done?
[18:30] <Wick> i copied telegram to the desktop
[18:30] <wxl> so if you did everything i showed in that video, you should just be able to use it.. as i showed in the video
[18:31] <Wick> yes i can use it
[18:32] <wxl> horray
[18:32] <wxl> well we didn't solve the problem of getting the menu item to work, but at least you don't have to use the terminal to launch it
[18:33] <Wick> yes.... thank :D
[18:33] <wxl> np
[18:34] <Wick> thanks again! see you next time, bye bye
[18:34] <wxl> take care
[18:35] <Wick> i will learn
[18:35] <Wick> :)
[21:34] <sappheiros> Can you get the video at https://www.reddit.com/r/KidsAreFuckingStupid/comments/9smwye/little_brother_tried_to_impress_me/?st=jnw9157w&sh=aa8bc55c to load? Should I report this as a bug?
[21:35] <sappheiros> Even if I select 240p, the video image stops moving, while the playback status bar progresses as if the video is playing -- it's acting like the video's too much for this computer to handle, but the CPU and memory I'm sure are not maxed out ...
[21:35] <sappheiros> ... no, actually the CPU shows max in ctrl+alt+del window
[21:36] <sappheiros> (with the 2 GB RAM ~75% full)
[21:36] <sappheiros> when i close that video the CPU drops back down to ~30% (1.6 GHz CPU I think). so it seems that video maxes out the CPU and fails to render properly. is this a 1.6 GHz limitation? or should it be working?
[21:37] <sappheiros> (1.66 GHz)
[21:37] <sappheiros> (Intel T2300)
 in chromium worked for me
 remember that hw acceleration is not available in firefox nor chromium in linux
 you could try to get the video url (in this case https://v.redd.it/3ubh991b4bv11/HLSPlaylist.m3u8 ) and play it in vlc which has hw acceleration