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| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 07:22 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 08:15 |
| Trevinho | hola | 08:32 |
| didrocks | hey Trevinho! | 08:33 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: hey..., when you've some time could you check https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+merge/357992 :) | 08:34 |
| Trevinho | (and bionic one https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+git/gnome-shell/+merge/357993) | 08:34 |
| Trevinho | answering before you might ask, upstream prefers another fix (which still might be not possible), but that at the date would need changes in Xorg, mutter, g-s itself and maybe the extension.... So, safer to go this way :) | 08:34 |
| Trevinho | I was discussing this with seb already | 08:35 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:38 |
| didrocks | salut seb128 | 08:38 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks, en forme ? | 08:38 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: will review this morning | 08:38 |
| didrocks | ça va, et toi ? | 08:38 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: shouldn't you put it in the ubuntu/ folder thus? | 08:38 |
| didrocks | or do you plan pushing that to Debian as well? | 08:38 |
| seb128 | ça va, un peu un début de rhume depuis qq jours mais qui tourne pas en vrai rhume, je croise les doigts que ça passe :p | 08:38 |
| didrocks | seb128: ah, donc le week-end n'a pas été aussi terrible que ça au final ? | 08:39 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: mh... Well there's still a chance that upstream will take it. And anyways is not too ubuntu specific | 08:39 |
| seb128 | didrocks, en journée ça va, c'est tjs le matin/soir | 08:39 |
| Trevinho | Buon giorno Sebastiano! | 08:39 |
| Trevinho | Come va? | 08:39 |
| seb128 | hey Trevinho, in non-sleeping mode again? ;) | 08:39 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: good thus! | 08:40 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, ça va bien ! et toi ? | 08:40 |
| Trevinho | Need to change timezone, need to adapt | 08:41 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: do you know if the --replace fix has already be merged in for the Shell? I wonder how you develop the Shell as long as it's broken | 09:00 |
| didrocks | (especially the js) | 09:00 |
| Laney | hi THERE | 09:01 |
| jamesh | didrocks: what do you think about merging my GTK 3.18 support branch for Yaru? I mentioned in the PR that the file moves could cause confusing merges for other branches, but I don't want to hold off forever. | 09:01 |
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| didrocks | jamesh: let me look, I saw clobrano was handling it and didn't want to step on his shoes | 09:04 |
| didrocks | jamesh: I would prefer though to keep master SRUable until next week if possible | 09:04 |
| didrocks | hey Laney | 09:04 |
| jamesh | didrocks: okay. This shouldn't have any backward compat issues, but I'd understand large scale file moves to raise red flags for that | 09:06 |
| didrocks | jamesh: the problem is more on the SRU team which would reject/delay forever due to large size. A week old Yaru is still not reviewed (nor evince, nor …) | 09:06 |
| didrocks | jamesh: let me still review the build system changes | 09:07 |
| didrocks | if we had markers in git to say "move folder", the diff would be really easier :/ | 09:07 |
| jamesh | yep. But that'd require file IDs, which git doesn't have | 09:08 |
| didrocks | jamesh: I guess you kept the folder name as "gtk-3.0" in the source on purpose, correct? | 09:08 |
| seb128 | hey Laney jamesh | 09:08 |
| didrocks | well, let me ask that on the review directly so that you don't have to wait on my remarks :) | 09:09 |
| jamesh | didrocks: I used the same folder names as things are installed to. | 09:09 |
| seb128 | sorry was busy writing a (long) email :p | 09:09 |
| jamesh | didrocks: I suppose I could have left the source layout unchanged and had gtk/src/light/gtk-3.0 for the current theme and gtk/src/light/gtk-3.18 for the old theme | 09:09 |
| seb128 | didrocks, there has been a round of SRU reviews on cosmic in the night, I got a stack of those approved | 09:09 |
| jamesh | and then install the first to gtk-3.20 and the second to gtk-3.0 | 09:09 |
| jamesh | but that seems like it would cause more confusion down the line | 09:10 |
| didrocks | seb128: lucky you, still waiting :p | 09:10 |
| seb128 | didrocks, jamesh, I don't expect adding-oldgtk-support to be a slow-to-review or problem for SRU | 09:10 |
| seb128 | it's basically not impacting the distro | 09:10 |
| seb128 | just the snaps | 09:10 |
| seb128 | and a new feature | 09:10 |
| seb128 | I'm happy to talk them into accepting the SRU once it's uploaded | 09:10 |
| didrocks | seb128: would be good first to get current Yaru in… | 09:10 |
| jamesh | seb128: right, but it looks like a big change in the debdiff | 09:10 |
| Laney | hey didrocks seb128 | 09:10 |
| didrocks | seb128: before uploading another one | 09:10 |
| seb128 | jamesh, right, but that can be explained to them | 09:10 |
| seb128 | didrocks, the SRU team has been clear that they want to be pinged/bothered about things we are blocked/waiting on rather than having us frustrated waiting | 09:11 |
| didrocks | seb128: well, there is no urgency until you raise this ^ | 09:11 |
| seb128 | so please nag the SRU-member-of-the-day if you are blocked/waiting, or let me know and I can do it | 09:11 |
| didrocks | that's why I didn't want to bother them until now | 09:11 |
| seb128 | k | 09:12 |
| seb128 | let me nag them today | 09:12 |
| jamesh | didrocks: one other change I think would be worth doing is to package up the themes in a gresource file. That would reduce the overhead of loading the theme | 09:12 |
| * didrocks feels schooled everyday around here :( | 09:12 | |
| seb128 | I wonder why your SRU didn't get reviewed though since it's older | 09:12 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ? | 09:13 |
| didrocks | jamesh: yeah, would be a nice improvements, let's go for this one first though | 09:13 |
| jamesh | essentially one open+mmap to get the CSS and all image assets, as a mapping shareable with all other running apps | 09:13 |
| willcooke | o/ | 09:21 |
| seb128 | hey willcooke | 09:23 |
| andyrock | morning | 09:26 |
| didrocks | jamesh: review posted, some small stuff, but looks OK mostly. I trust you to build the snap and test :) | 09:27 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke, andyrock | 09:27 |
| didrocks | andyrock: if I'm correct, the --replace fix isn't merged in yet. How do you hack on the Shell? :) | 09:30 |
| andyrock | didrocks: I'm hacking to fix that crash | 09:31 |
| andyrock | :D | 09:31 |
| andyrock | you can start a new gnome-session with jhbuild | 09:31 |
| andyrock | than you can do alt+f2 r | 09:31 |
| didrocks | andyrock: hum, I wonder how people can do Shell development meanwhile, like picking up the new js files | 09:31 |
| didrocks | with unpacking/repacking | 09:31 |
| andyrock | alt+f2 r works | 09:31 |
| didrocks | yeah, jhbuild, this is going to take ages :p | 09:32 |
| didrocks | or I can write perfect code | 09:32 |
| didrocks | build a package | 09:32 |
| didrocks | install, and alt+f2 | 09:32 |
| didrocks | :p | 09:32 |
| andyrock | the problem with gnome-shell is that it's exiting with status == 1 | 09:33 |
| andyrock | gnome-session will read the exit status and try to restart it | 09:33 |
| didrocks | ah, that's why the session quit | 09:33 |
| didrocks | hum :) | 09:33 |
| didrocks | so, a shell script wrapper could just do it! | 09:33 |
| andyrock | because it can't be restarted (because there is another gnome-shell process already) it will kill the session | 09:34 |
| didrocks | with a beautiful kill + sleep | 09:34 |
| andyrock | yeah something to hide the exit status | 09:34 |
| seb128 | hey andyrock, how are you today? | 09:44 |
| andyrock | hey seb128 fine you? little bit cold here :D | 09:45 |
| andyrock | Trevinho: do you mind cherry-picking https://trello.com/c/2hg9HKfq/111-backport-unable-to-type-capital-letters-using-onscreen-keyboard-to-bionic for the bionic SRU | 09:46 |
| andyrock | Trevinho: or do you want me to propose a branch on top of yours? | 09:46 |
| seb128 | andyrock, same here, a bit cold :) | 09:56 |
| willcooke | It's just done it *again*. All my docs have moved in to Templates | 10:27 |
| seb128 | did you use a snap?. | 10:33 |
| willcooke | Just going through the snaps I've used in the last 12 hours | 10:33 |
| Trevinho | andyrock: feel free to propose a branch, in theory I wanted to do a "light" SRU, but it can'be too light since there's already the XUbuntuCancel stuff in git, so I actually need other related branches to be merged | 10:53 |
| Trevinho | seb128: can you help me with that? If not who? :) | 10:53 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, git can be changed | 10:54 |
| seb128 | I think those fixes are more important that the xubuntu thing | 10:54 |
| seb128 | I would SRU the fixes first and do xubuntu as another round when we have no more urgent fixes to land | 10:54 |
| Trevinho | seb128: yeah I agree | 10:54 |
| Trevinho | so, feel free to revert :) | 10:55 |
| Trevinho | andyrock: I'm doing it, so I add another fix, no worries | 11:00 |
| andyrock | Trevinho: great thanks | 11:01 |
| willcooke | updating firmware to test new fwupd. Wish me luck. | 11:13 |
| seb128 | willcooke, worked? | 11:18 |
| willcooke | worked | 11:19 |
| willcooke | new fwupd & gnome-softare | 11:19 |
| seb128 | brb, moving location to lunch outside, I'm too lazy to be cook today (going to keep working during lunch, need to catch up on my todo before the long w.e) | 11:33 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: It did for me too last night :) | 11:40 |
| Trevinho | a bit stressing though, since it was beeping all the times, with a single prompt on the screen saying "waiting, update is happening".... | 11:40 |
| Trevinho | Laney: when you've a sec can you please merge and sponsor https://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+git/mutter/+merge/358007 <3 | 11:41 |
| willcooke | Trevinho, thats better than Lenovo. I got a blank screen and nothing else | 11:42 |
| willcooke | I just ignored it for a while and prayed | 11:43 |
| Trevinho | willcooke: this is a thinkpad, so still lenovo, but was a bit making me nervous | 11:43 |
| willcooke | oh | 11:44 |
| willcooke | I wonder why mine doesnt beer | 11:44 |
| willcooke | meh | 11:44 |
| Trevinho | not super updated though.. | 11:54 |
| Trevinho | . https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Tu34szyO/image.png | 11:54 |
| Trevinho | but last one was released 4 days ago, let's see how long it takes | 11:54 |
| Laney | Trevinho: ok, probably later on though | 11:56 |
| Laney | why is the reviewer that? | 11:56 |
| Trevinho | Laney: cause I wrongly created a MP before pointing to the packaging | 11:56 |
| Trevinho | let me change it | 11:56 |
| Trevinho | Laney: take your time, but for any fix I won't be around until 1st | 11:57 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: ah, speaking in how to dev, you can indeed also just use pure JS files, even without creating the resources | 12:27 |
| Trevinho | `GNOME_SHELL_JS=/foo/bar/baz/path/gnome-shell-js gnome-shell ` | 12:28 |
| seb128 | xnox, oh, I forgot to reply yesterday, but yeah "sudo" group ownership should be enough, agreed it's invalid, I just wanted it looked at/confirmed you think it's fine | 12:39 |
| xnox | seb128, no problem. | 12:42 |
| seb128 | xnox, thx for looking at the bug/responding! | 12:42 |
| xnox | seb128, commented here as well, just in case the whole world split-brained w.r.t. `the admin group name` | 12:42 |
| xnox | cause like i don't follow gnome or policykit close enough | 12:42 |
| seb128 | right, no, it's all fine :) | 12:42 |
| seb128 | k, moving back from lunch, brb | 12:44 |
| caravena | Yea! 'Disco' | 12:46 |
| Trevinho | Ok, time for me to start boarding... | 12:50 |
| Trevinho | see you guys from the other side of the ocean! | 12:50 |
| willcooke | safe travels Trevinho | 12:50 |
| Trevinho | thanks | 12:51 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, safe flight | 14:12 |
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| willcooke | stand by | 14:31 |
| willcooke | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2018-10-30 | 14:32 |
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| didrocks | hey | 14:32 |
| andyrock | o/ | 14:32 |
| heber | o/ | 14:32 |
| willcooke | It's a spoooooooooky meeting this week | 14:32 |
| tjaalton | hi | 14:32 |
| tseliot | o/ | 14:33 |
| seb128 | hey | 14:33 |
| willcooke | 🎃 | 14:33 |
| oSoMoN | o/ | 14:33 |
| andyrock | 👻 | 14:33 |
| willcooke | k, so I'm still not caught up from last week yet. | 14:33 |
| jibel | hi | 14:33 |
| willcooke | Seb is still reviewing the Bionic bugs | 14:33 |
| Laney | 🧛 | 14:34 |
| willcooke | So we will have to skip them and do it next week | 14:34 |
| willcooke | This week we will go through the incoming bugs | 14:34 |
| willcooke | for C | 14:34 |
| willcooke | D can start next week | 14:34 |
| willcooke | Just reviewing the list to see if anyone had anything to raise | 14:35 |
| willcooke | Looks clear | 14:36 |
| willcooke | Trevinho has some reviews needed | 14:36 |
| seb128 | willcooke, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1778946 .... did you check if changing the permission of /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf "fixes" the issue? | 14:36 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1778946 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "No dns resolution after closing a vpn/pptp connection" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:36 |
| seb128 | comment #3 | 14:36 |
| seb128 | (that's the one bug on http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html) | 14:36 |
| willcooke | Ah, so... VPNs were totally broken last week. | 14:36 |
| seb128 | :( | 14:36 |
| willcooke | I need to test from home | 14:36 |
| seb128 | k | 14:36 |
| willcooke | I spoke to stgraber about it, and once I know what's going on a bit more then I will go back and ask him for some more ideas | 14:37 |
| willcooke | I will get that tested this week | 14:37 |
| willcooke | I do that resolvconf on this bionic box, I expect because I upgraded | 14:37 |
| willcooke | but installing that is not the right fix according to stgraber, who knows a lot about this stuff | 14:38 |
| willcooke | so lets see | 14:38 |
| willcooke | rls-bb-incoming is being triaged by seb128 | 14:38 |
| willcooke | rls-cc-incoming: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html | 14:38 |
| willcooke | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1798053 | 14:39 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1798053 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Cosmic) "[SRU] Click on the back icon in gnome-software doesn't work" [High,Fix committed] | 14:39 |
| willcooke | Already fixed by oSoMoN | 14:39 |
| willcooke | and my VPN bug: http://launchpad.net/bugs/1778946 | 14:39 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1778946 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "No dns resolution after closing a vpn/pptp connection" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:39 |
| willcooke | which we already talked about | 14:39 |
| willcooke | and that's the list | 14:39 |
| willcooke | Before we go on to AOB, anyone got anything to ask? | 14:39 |
| willcooke | 1 min timeout | 14:39 |
| Laney | b only has one bug, not sure why that needed to be skipped? | 14:40 |
| willcooke | oh yeah | 14:40 |
| willcooke | http://launchpad.net/bugs/1797604 | 14:40 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1797604 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "Xserver opengl problems on i5-8259U" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:40 |
| Laney | guessing it was tracking that is supposed to be gardened | 14:40 |
| willcooke | Laney, ah yeah | 14:41 |
| willcooke | tjaalton, any thoughts on that xorg bug? ^ | 14:41 |
| seb128 | +1 to -notfix | 14:41 |
| seb128 | -intel is not the default driver nowadays | 14:41 |
| willcooke | ohhhh | 14:42 |
| willcooke | because it's i915 | 14:42 |
| willcooke | now? | 14:42 |
| tseliot | modesetting | 14:42 |
| Laney | brb door | 14:42 |
| willcooke | so seb128 you are -1 on accepting? | 14:43 |
| tjaalton | willcooke: what seb128 said | 14:43 |
| willcooke | kk | 14:43 |
| willcooke | good enough for me, thanks | 14:43 |
| seb128 | willcooke, right, based on the fact that it's not the default driver so low impact | 14:43 |
| seb128 | it can be fixed | 14:43 |
| seb128 | but doesn't need rls tracking | 14:43 |
| Laney | hell yeah | 14:44 |
| willcooke | done | 14:44 |
| willcooke | #topic AOB | 14:44 |
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| willcooke | Anyone got anything? | 14:44 |
| willcooke | I'll send round an update from SLC once I've got my thoughts straight. | 14:44 |
| andyrock | none from me | 14:45 |
| willcooke | In the meantime, just had a call with jibel kenvandine and seb128 - so they will know some of the high level details if you can't wait | 14:45 |
| willcooke | andyrock, you still ok for Monday? | 14:45 |
| andyrock | yup! | 14:45 |
| willcooke | It's sushi day! | 14:45 |
| andyrock | :( | 14:45 |
| willcooke | It's Borough Market day! | 14:46 |
| andyrock | niiice | 14:46 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 14:46 |
| willcooke | kk, 2 min timeout for AOB | 14:46 |
| Laney | monday?????????? | 14:46 |
| Laney | (flat iron day) | 14:46 |
| willcooke | Laney, going to meet with m_pt re: Livepatch designs | 14:47 |
| Laney | nod, fun | 14:48 |
| willcooke | ok, thanks all - we're done | 14:48 |
| willcooke | #endmeeting | 14:48 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Oct 30 14:48:49 2018 UTC. | 14:48 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2018/ubuntu-desktop.2018-10-30-14.32.moin.txt | 14:48 |
| seb128 | thx! | 14:48 |
| didrocks | thx | 14:48 |
| oSoMoN | thanks! | 14:48 |
| jibel | thanks | 14:49 |
| andyrock | thx! | 14:49 |
| jibel | new bug with the screen lock. I unlocked the screen and it didn't ask for a password | 17:22 |
| willcooke | jibel, O_o | 17:48 |
| popey | robert_ancell: scrap the idea of *-featured. The top 20 in every section are "featured". | 20:33 |
| robert_ancell | popey, ok, so the sections are ordered from best to worst? | 20:34 |
| popey | not really. first 20 are featured, rest are "also rans" :) | 20:35 |
| robert_ancell | popey, do you expect the top twenty will be shown in order, so the #1 game will always be featured? | 20:35 |
| popey | hmmmm | 20:40 |
| popey | That would give us some control, yes. | 20:41 |
| popey | (chatting with wimpy, he agrees) | 20:41 |
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