[00:06] Can anyone explain why installing nvidia-driver-410 would cause linux boot to hang with this message https://i.imgur.com/ytRLcYL.jpg [00:22] trying to make kitty show up as my default terminal. how do i get it to appear as a choice for sudo update alternatives? 2) after creating a .desktop file for kitty how come it doesn't appear on launch menu? i already ran sed -i "s/Icon\=kitty/Icon\=\/home\/$USER\/.local\/kitty.app\/share\/icons\/hicolor\/256x256\/apps\/kitty.png/g" ~/.local/share/applications/kitty.desktop === wodencafenvy is now known as wodencafe [00:28] also; when i run ctrl + alt + t i no longer see gnome terminal [00:35] did you issue update-desktop-database ~/.local/share/applications ? [00:43] Hello guys [00:44] Do anyone knows how to recover a broken install when recovery mode fails? [00:44] I tried to update nvidia drivers on my laptop [00:45] Like, how could I repair packages from a live usb? [00:47] Gr1zzly: Tried booting into recovery mode and purging the Nvidia driver ? [00:47] yeah, won't boot [00:47] pc hangs in without error [00:48] Gr1zzly: Try then booting a liveUSB to the boot menu and choose " boot from first hard drive" . [00:49] k === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius [01:36] I am a bit confused with package naming, I need "libgcc++:i386", on one VPS it's available (linode.com) on another, it says cannot find any package by this regex (scaleway). Both are bionic(18.04). What name should I use ? [01:37] kinda can't figure out why same distro on the different hosting services would have different package name [01:44] X-Kent: GCC support library ? [01:45] !info libgcc1 [01:45] libgcc1 (source: gcc-8 (8.2.0-1ubuntu2~18.04)): GCC support library. In component main, is required. Version 1:8.2.0-1ubuntu2~18.04 (bionic), package size 46 kB, installed size 131 kB [01:45] !info libgcc2 [01:45] Package libgcc2 does not exist in bionic [01:45] Bashing-om, yea it seems so, not sure why on some systems the anem is different [01:45] s/anem/name [01:46] that's the gcc lib for i386 when the host is amd64 I think [01:49] X-Kent: There are a *LOT* of those libraries. see: ' apt search libgcc1 ' . [01:51] Bashing-om, the naming is a complete mess, no idea why but on that problematic vps, the package "libstdc++6:i386" worked and provided what I required [01:52] X-Kent: :) .. You the better man than I . [01:53] X-Kent: only reason is there are i386 programs needing it [01:53] hggdh, yep, i use "aapt" and it requires it [01:53] !info aapt [01:53] aapt (source: android-platform-frameworks-base): Android Asset Packaging Tool. In component universe, is extra. Version 1:7.0.0+r33-1 (bionic), package size 413 kB, installed size 1440 kB [01:54] then aapt is a i386 binary, I guess [01:54] yep it's a 32bit one [01:55] interesting. On one instance I have (Bionic) apt-cache policy returns it as a amd64 [01:56] hggdh, I use manually built aapt that is 32bit, "legacy" reasons. [01:56] ah [01:56] hope that libstdc++6:i386 will be available on both VPSes [01:57] then yes, it might require the i386 gcc libraries === amos1 is now known as amosbird [02:06] figured it out, the problematic vm should have "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" then it finds the i386 packages [02:16] I'm seeing an error similar to this one : https://hastebin.com/iperabonih.sql at boot time before it flashes away into the system. any insight would be lovely as there's nothing similar in windows [02:16] syslog also tells me that my bios is broken ... === khronosschoty is now known as not_dbrown_I_swe === not_dbrown_I_swe is now known as khronosschoty [03:26] Can anyone guess why installing nvidia-driver-410 would cause linux boot to hang with this message https://i.imgur.com/ytRLcYL.jpg === stormbard is now known as stormbard_away === stormbard_away is now known as stormbard [03:33] JustAPerson: hmm, we had a user with that driver version into boot problems aswell [03:33] JustAPerson: where did you get the driver? [03:43] I just installed kubuntu alongside Windows but there wasn't an efi entry created in bios, what do i need to do to be able to select os to boot to? === capellaDies is now known as capella|away [04:21] Heya guys, I have a problem with connecting my Magic Keyboard 2 A1644, the GNOME Settings way doesn't work, bluez-tools way is working but have to manually reconnect it every time it looses connection and I have to use on screen keyboard on gdm to log in :/ The issue is better described here: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/apple-magic-keyboard-2-a1644/8591 [04:38] Ok, I believe that my Kubuntu live installer installed in MBR mode, is there an easy way to convert it to efi so grub can take over the booting duties? [04:51] Ok, my Kubuntu installer ran in MBR, is there any way to convert it to EFI safely?' [05:02] lotuspsychje: installed from the ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa [05:02] JustAPerson: what does ubuntu-drivers list reccomend for your card? [05:05] lotuspsychje: `ubuntu-driver devices` lists nvidia-driver-390, 396, and 410 (recommended) for my newer card (GTX 1070ti) and the older binary nvidia-340 for my GTX 770Ti. I believe the older card is still supported by the latest drivers [05:05] JustAPerson: perhaps try 396 latest from the graphics ppa [05:07] JustAPerson: the user yesterday got stuck on 410 also [05:08] lotuspsychje: ah. I think I have tried 396 but I forget what goes wrong. 390 definitely causes random kernel hangs. Give me a few minutes to try 396 again [05:11] JustAPerson: your system up to date to .38 too right? [05:17] lotuspsychje: currently running 4.15.0-36-generic so let me try updating that too before restarting [05:18] JustAPerson: yeah its important, we test on right kernel [05:29] lotuspsychje: now cannot even get to the recovery prompt on 4.15.0-38 w/ nvidia-drivers-396. See this picture of https://i.imgur.com/dv4pRlQ.jpg [05:30] Trying some of the older kernels I have installed to see if they can reach recovery prompt [05:30] JustAPerson: recoverymode is before systemd loading, enter grub [05:32] JustAPerson: hold shift at power on to enter grub, or ctrl alt F1 to enter tty at systemd boot [05:33] lotuspsychje: in grub, do I need to use `e` to change one of the boot commands? [05:34] JustAPerson: no, boot commands is only for debugging, but if you cannot enter desktop you could try the nomodeset option [05:36] JustAPerson: another way to get out of black screens nvidia is: sudo apt purge nvidia* to fallback to nouveau, and enter your desktop again [05:37] JustAPerson: after that, you can install another nvidia driver version again [05:38] lotuspsychje: I'm familiar with `apt purge nvidia*` which I've had to run from the recovery root shell many times. Hence my remarking that I couldn't even reach the recovery shell [05:39] With `nomodeset` I can actually boot into my desktop [05:39] Does that disable the nvidia driver? what are the semantics of that? [05:39] JustAPerson: nomodeset, sets no mode and is just for testing purposes [05:40] JustAPerson: an nvidia card, should be running with an nvidia driver [05:40] JustAPerson: or opensource or the proper driver [05:41] lotuspsychje: `lspci -v` indicates my cards are using the nvidia drivers instead of nouveau. Am I all set? Do I just permanently add `nomodeset` to my grub config? [05:43] JustAPerson: no, as i said nomodeset isnt the best way to use your card [05:43] JustAPerson: if an nvidia driver doesnt work properly its not right [05:44] bbl breakfast JustAPerson [05:44] lotuspsychje: thank you for the help [05:44] try switching nvidia drivers till it works ok [05:44] on kernel .38 [06:26] any one here can help me with a Vinux question [06:26] ? [06:30] OERIAS: I know it's slim, but your best chance is likely #vinux - really only support Ubuntu and official flavours here. [06:39] i want to install 18.04 on my mums packard bell easynote LE, but running the live system from usb the keyboard does not work at all. under the installed windows10, it does. [06:39] any ideas? [06:50] pragomer: did you check usb is enabled in bios? === Kon- is now known as Kon_ [07:00] it works when booting with uefi..mm [07:20] HI, trying to add a nomodeset argument to grum menu, Where can I permanently add this on ubuntu 18.04 ? [07:26] tomvolek: edit /etc/default/grub and run update-grub to rebuild grub.cfg [07:27] hateball: on ubuntu 18.08 i edited /etc/grub.d/10_linux and it doesnt take affect [07:27] tomvolek: that is, sudo nano /etc/default/grub, edit the line with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT, ctrl+x to save and exit, sudo update-grub [07:28] tx [07:29] on my grub i have few flavors of ubunut, die to a graphic card issue i need to add nomodeset to the boot linr , that will fixes my issue === russellsara08 is now known as russellsara0875 === russellsara0875 is now known as russellsara08 === russellsara08 is now known as russellsara0875 === neunon_ is now known as neunon [08:07] What is with the incessant hash sum mismatches during apt-get updates? [08:08] It's only been happening for the last couple of months. [08:26] hello, I have a question: do you know in which configuration file the chosen window manger choice is stored, for each user? [08:37] Hi, i'm doing conversion of PST file and its havy on the disk, so my system is really slow...its all stuttery [08:37] i've checked and sda and sdb (2 disk that i use) are using cfq [08:38] is there a better scheduler [08:38] sda is ssd disk; sdb is spining disk [08:38] is there a config file to change scheduler per disk [08:38] memphisto: and you're reading where and writing where? changing the scheduler is probably not the best approach. [08:39] reading and writing to same sdd disk (sda) [08:39] same file system also? [08:40] which utility do you use to convert? [08:40] readpst [08:41] i assume PST is the source format then. so what's the target format? [08:41] mbox file [08:42] i've changed shceduler for sda disk online to deadline and system seems responsive [08:42] and top shows that the bottleneck is i/o? [08:43] well top says readpst has few threads all 100% CPU usage [08:43] memphisto: okay so its actually cpu bound, not disk i/o [08:43] since its reading/writing to disk it has to be disk [08:44] well i don't know how to check that, i can see 100%cpu and readpst is causing it [08:44] htop shows cpu load per cpu core [08:45] and since its reading/writing on a disk , and i've previously noticed when copying large files i have sluggines in linux [08:45] i changed scheduler and it works [08:45] what'S the hardware, which ubuntu release is this? [08:45] how do i change scheduler per disk , persistantly [08:46] xenail, 4.15.0-36-generic [08:47] sdd disk is KINGSTON_SKC400S37256G [08:47] spining disk is HGST_HTS725050A7E630 [08:47] laptop is hpe elitebook 8570w [08:49] you can use the 'elevator' kernel parameter to set the scheduler, but i'm not sure about single storages. [08:49] that i know, but i'm interested per disk [08:50] as i have different disk types [08:51] 18.04 provides tuned / tuned-utils which can set it. [08:53] tomreyn: thanks, i'll check wheather 16.04 has it [08:53] it doesn't. i guess you just need to create a systemd service, @reboot crontab or similar [08:54] ufff [08:55] see the 2nd answer for an example https://serverfault.com/questions/612949/changing-the-i-o-scheduler-for-a-specific-disk [08:59] tomreyn: will look at it rightaway [09:00] a udev rule would also work i guess [09:00] something akin to SUBSYSTEM=="block", ACTION=="add|change", KERNEL=="sd[a-z]", ATTR{queue/scheduler}="deadline" [09:02] ideally oyou'd do it based on storage device type (ssd vs hdd), not just based on the device node sd[a-z] [09:05] tomreyn: yes, i've done it now via systemd service, but i've just found some article to do it using udev [09:05] ACTION=="add|change", KERNEL=="sd[a-z]", ATTR{queue/rotational}=="0", ATTR{queue/scheduler}="deadline" [09:06] but too late, i've already done it systemd way [09:07] alright, nice find though [09:08] memphisto: if you use udev KERNEL=="sd[a-z]" isn't so good now we have nvme devices [09:09] hmmm, could be interesting ... does an MD or LVM device show a rotational node? [09:10] hmmm, never a spinning disk around when you need one :) [09:10] TJ-: i don't have one to test :) [09:11] loop devices don't offer scheuduler, but none [09:12] memphisto: interesting conundrum that is [09:13] TJ-: my md0 does [09:13] it inherits properly, i compared ssd to hdd [09:14] just what will happen if you span an md across ssd + hdd? [09:14] yes; just checked on an LVM device-mapper node too... interesting if the underlying is hybrid [09:14] hello seniors [09:15] tomreyn: it'll show a superposition of 0 and 1 - a Quantum drive! [09:16] quantum drivography is beyond me [09:16] please help, how to stripped down boot process, for removing qemu-kvm, virtualbox, boxes from boot [09:19] adikwok: you identify the matching packages and uninstall / purge them [09:20] ok tomreyn i try it now [09:20] example: dpkg -l virtualbox [09:20] example: dpkg -l '*virtualbox*' [09:20] TJ-: tomreyn: what happens when its hybrid ? [09:20] tomreyn: dpkg -l '*virtualbox*' [09:21] memphisto: i don't know. [09:22] pff [09:22] adikwok: yes this was the proper example [09:22] it gave me list of virtualbox tomreyn [09:22] I do have one more problem not related to previous one. When comming back from suspend i get just cursor [09:23] and can't kill x; nor cant go to tty? [09:23] and its all on 4.15 kernel [09:23] 4.13 was working correctly [09:23] nvidia card but nouveau driver [09:24] adikwok: disable the hyervisor services [09:25] TJ-: im still in waiting aptitude purge virtualbox [09:25] memphisto: what happens if you suspend from a TTY ("systemctl suspend") rather than from the GUI or lid-close event? [09:26] Strange; 18.04 (server) has an /etc/sysctl.d/xxxx that contains "net.ipv4.ip_forward=1" but it isn't being set ("systemctl status systemd-sysctl") shows the service ran. How to debug!? [09:34] TJ-: can't go to tty [09:35] nothing works, just mouse coursor is moving.... [09:35] memphisto: I meant when you have normal control, switch to a TTY to do the suspend [09:35] I'm using KDE;just to mentinon [09:36] TJ-: ctrl+alt+F? doesn't do anything [09:36] memphisto: if you have another PC you could (try to) SSH in to investigate [09:36] nope [09:36] memphisto: Not from a normal clean boot GUI session? [09:37] TJ-: on normal it works, but when i come back from susspend nothing works; can't go to tty screen [09:38] is it so,a forward proxy would sit in front of clients,and a reverse one would sit in front of server? Sorry for basic question but it got me thinking [09:40] TJ-: does it have a .conf ending to not be ignored? [09:40] memphisto: after a reboot check towards the end of the last boot log ("journalctl -b -1") [09:40] TJ-: I assume it is not literally xxxx right? [09:40] TJ-: i can only powerit off forcefully [09:40] cpaelzer: it's applied manually or restarting the service [09:41] cpaelzer: but either was applied and then something else cancelled it out - but there isn't much configured and the only suspect there might be netplan/networkd [09:41] memphisto: that sounds like an ACPI firmware bug may be the root cause [09:42] cpaelzer: or, for some reason it ignored it. Let me check some more...ooohhh! it's a symlink to /usr/local/ which is a separate FS mounted later. Duh! [09:42] * TJ- kicks himself around the room [09:52] How do I install Mono SDK 5.12.0? [09:53] good morning every one. I now am an experienced user of ubuntu desktop. Now i want to learn ubuntu server. I followed instructions and i have now running a software raid ubuntu server. But im not so experienced with commands and im getting frustrated. May i install a desktop (gui) enviroment over my ubuntu server fresh install? thank you very much [09:54] it is generally not recommended to use a GUI on Ubuntu server however, you can install anything via apt [09:54] wendico: yes; you can install any packages you choose [09:54] security is not a big concern [09:54] can i just install on top of it "ubuntu-desktop" [09:55] wendico: Yes, that's the recommended way [09:55] wendico: may I recommend a book The Linux Command Line [09:55] it's free online [09:55] i also advise against installing a gui on a server [09:55] I've upgraded from 16.04 to 18.10 on my ThinkPad X1 Carbon - the way Ubuntu handles the high DPI screen is aweful. It worked fine in 16.04 but now certain apps are unusably small, and my mouse pointer changes size between apps. Any ideas of how to make it usable? [09:55] tj: thanks. leonardus: please do so [09:57] wendico: http://www.linuxzasve.com/preuzimanje/TLCL-09.12.pdf [09:57] hey peeps. a link in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialConsoleHowto is a link to some scamware site [09:58] leonarduds: thank you, bookmarked [09:58] this one : hxxp://www.rajeevnet.com/linux/grub_serial_console.html [09:58] change the xx to tt if you want to get hacked [09:59] I went to all the trouble of registering with ubuntu-one only to find the page is immutable. sadface. kthnxbye [10:01] mlh: you can easily join the wiki editors team [10:04] Hello is there a way I can remove a static route using Network manager? To be more specific I have two routes like this https://pastebin.com/9HyNm2H0 , and want to remove the route from device eth0 [10:06] afx_, was this route created via networkmanager? [10:06] I tried to create a new static route for this device with higher metric (like this https://pastebin.com/ZGe2kcCt) but , the gui does not let me apply the changes [10:06] Deknos, no these routes were created by default [10:08] afx_: those look like the default routes for each interface [10:09] TJ-, correct . I would like to remove the default from eth0 and let only the specified in the network manager [10:10] afx_: in the NM Connection Editor, on the IPv4 tab, in the Method selector choose "Automatic (addresses only)" - that will only set the IP address via DHCP. It will not set a default route nor set any DNS servers provided by DHCP [10:11] Hello. I've connected external display to Ubuntu 16.04, it gets detected by mu lap top doesn't output anything after that. How may I fix that ? [10:11] hey, I am trying to compile something with CUDA (through clang). I've never done this before. I keep getting a lot of 'cannot find libdevice for sm_30. Provide path to different CUDA installation via --cuda-path, or pass -nocudalib to build without linking with libdevice.'. What should be the cuda path for ubuntu? [10:12] afx_, after doing it with the GUI, look into /etc/NetworkManager for any changes, with these keywords you can set the attributes with nmcli as well. [10:12] fugitive: you should have some FN,key combination to make the port aktive [10:12] oh, never mind, it lists cuda < 7 and cuda > 9 as unsupported, and I got CUDA 9.1. [10:12] SimonNL: let me see [10:13] TJ-, Unfortunately I have to use static ip not DHCP [10:13] afx_: so you've got eth0 in NM set to "Manual" ? [10:13] fugitive: one of them om top row should show something that looks like a monitor [10:13] TJ-, yes [10:14] actually, there is only underscore ``_'' on laptop screen. Just noticed it [10:14] and black screen [10:14] OPERATORS: mlh LINK is a spam, malicious web page. please check and ban [10:14] fugitive: laptop brand and type ? [10:14] fugitive: or a link to user manual [10:15] http://termbin.com/eygm , <- xorg.conf ; Lenovo ThinkPad W530 [10:16] And I am using KDE, if that makes some difference.. gpu - GK107GLM [Quadro K1000M], but i am using only nouveau atm [10:16] afx_: in which case just don't set a default gateway. In the IPv4 tab, press the "Routes" button and check the option for "Use this connection only for resources on its network" [10:16] Deknos, NetworkManager/system-connections there are compiled files , can't view the files [10:17] afx_: I agree entirely that option os so badly described when 'everyone' knows the term to look for is "default route" [10:19] I can't get Ubuntu to run on my laptop on a non-unity version. It was always happy on Unity (16.04) but since updating to 18.10 I simply can't get high DPI scaling to work. Is there anything I can do to get Java applications scaling with everything else? [10:21] TJ-, "Use this connection only for resources on its network" , will only let me if set to DHCP . pfff [10:22] tomreyn: sorry for late reply. i tried to apt purge . and reboot could not finished. i checked my X11 is gone [10:22] fugitive: If I'm not mistaking it's FN+F7 [10:23] tomreyn: apt purge virtualbox. i meant [10:23] afx_: really? in which case I don't think NM is setting the default route for eth0; Either that value has been sitting around for a while or something else is affecting it. If you disconect the eth0 connection does "ip route show" report that default route via eth0 or not? [10:23] fugitive: might be smart to read your manual yourself. [10:24] hello, my ubunu 18.04 stopped asking for LUKS password, any ideas how can i diagnose/enable? [10:24] tried adding cryptedevice to kernel parameters with no luck [10:24] SimonNL: nop, didn't worked. The monitor seems turned on, as I see underscore in top left corner. I believe it is related to the Xorg.. [10:25] TJ-, no the route is not there with eth0 disabled. [10:25] tomreyn: now virutualbox has gone from boot process. [10:26] fugitive: Oh ok so the monitor does have a signal I assume. [10:27] fugitive: can't help for the xorg, no knowledge [10:27] TJ-, With DHCP , static routes and 'Use this connection only for resources on its network' on eth0 , i get the desired static routes, besides that I have to use a static IP too. [10:27] bb asap [10:27] TJ-, I think I ll have to use a script ... [10:29] TJ-: do i have to disable the hypervisor.service too? [10:31] TJ-, Ah wait the default gateway on the manual setting was the problem . By deleting the default gateway (adding only static ip /netmask) , I can save the configuration . Let me check if I have the desired connection.. [10:32] TJ-: how to setting xorg.conf to have refresh rate? .. my resolution is 1280x800 N/A . i ever saw it had refresh rate when i tried install liquorix kernel. when i back to mainline kernel 4.19 . refresh rate is gone. and youtube laggy. especially when running hd. [10:33] afx_: What you're wanting to do is something I do frequently; so I'm not sure why you're having problems [10:33] TJ-, hmm [10:35] TJ-, me settings are: Manual ip (ip address, netmask) , dns, routes automatic (disabled) , 6 static routes configured, Use this connection only for resources .. (enabled) [10:36] afx_: screenshot from another PC http://i.imgur.com/bGd9lMn.png [10:36] afx_: if there is still a default route being set, then its by something else [10:36] TJ-, can I pm you ? [10:38] afx_: I disable PMs; support is in-channel [10:39] afx_: this link shows it set: http://i.imgur.com/yEdMm8s.png [10:39] TJ-, no problem [10:40] Hi folks [10:40] so you have selected "use this connection..." , you have NO routes , you have NO gateway set [10:40] TJ-, also I don't have "Ignore automatically obtained routes" . I am on 18.04 [10:41] afx_: Yes, this is 18.04 [10:42] TJ-, in gnome desktop I don't have this setting [10:43] afx_: does you user have sudo/adm group membership? [10:43] afx_: I'm wondering if options are restricted for unprivileged users [10:45] TJ-,https://imgur.com/a/908k5DU . Once I remove the default gw , the "Add" button gets green [10:47] TJ-, my account is sudoer [10:50] afx_: looks like gnome dumbed-down the standard network manager connection editor! I don't use gnome so didn't realise they changed it so much [10:51] TJ-, like I said , with GW removed from manual ip configuration I get the desired static routes [10:52] and I think defining static routes and gw might be redundant [10:52] after all I get the desired result :) [10:52] let me restart and check connectivity === tinyhippo is now known as spookyhippo [10:53] I will log in #ubuntu from my phone for this [10:53] brb TJ- === spookyhippo is now known as spockyhippo [11:05] hello, dificult question. I have a label printer conected to a windows machine. The support webpage got only drivers for windows and mac, i dont find the printer on the list if i connect the printer to an ubuntu machine (only usb connection available on the printer) i can keep my windows machine to use the label printer, but i would like to print from ubuntu. What would be the easiest way to make my usb windows connected printer available for my ubuntu to [11:05] print? thank you for advice. My printer http://www.dymo.com/en-US/labelwriter-450-twin-turbo-label-printer#tabContainer [11:07] I played long time with the printer connected to ubuntu and i could make it print, but format goes out of label margins i could not make it make a correct print [11:08] printer is shared and i can print on the network from other windows machines [11:08] but when i add printer, even givin the machine IP address ubuntu cant find my printer [11:09] my ubuntu machine can find other printers on the network wich work perfectly (wifi and network different printers working) im just missing my label printer [11:09] TJ-, it works :) [11:09] Thank you very much for any clue or tip you can give me [11:10] TJ-, really appreciate your time [11:10] will be afk for 30-45 min [11:14] Found this: http://www.dymo.com/en-US/dymo-label-sdk-and-cups-drivers-for-linux-dymo-label-sdk-cups-linux-p--1 but it is an empty webpage lol [11:16] wendico: did you download and install the drivers from dymo.com ? [11:24] !info printer-driver-dymo | wendico have you installed these? [11:24] wendico have you installed these?: printer-driver-dymo (source: dymo-cups-drivers): printer driver for DYMO label printers. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.0-8 (bionic), package size 53 kB, installed size 170 kB === spockyhippo is now known as spookyhippo [11:29] QUIT === kite_ is now known as james === james is now known as Guest56265 === Guest56265 is now known as fff === fff is now known as kite_abcd === Butterfly^ is now known as Guest18148 [12:05] is there a good option for keeping a python script running basically all the time, restarting if machine reboots.. IF i dont have access to sudo, which means no systemd afaik [12:05] Nelluk: systemd unit (for the user) [12:06] i feel like i read somewhere that 16.04 doesnt use systemd at the user level but i cant find that again [12:07] Nelluk: hmmm, easy to check "ps -efly | grep 'systemd.*--user' " [12:08] yeah looks like its running [12:08] Nelluk: in which case see "man systemd.unit" :) [12:08] im looking at this guide which indicates i'd need a sudoer to enable-linger for my user https://www.brendanlong.com/systemd-user-services-are-amazing.html [12:09] Hey how can I get GRUB to not show up at all (unless I hold down a key like ctrl or shift) [12:09] Nelluk: UNIT FILE LOAD PATH Table 2 [12:12] lantizia: set the timout to zero [12:12] Nelluk: if you cannot enable login linger, how about using tmux or screen? [12:13] gpunk, doesn't work [12:13] gpunk, apparently there is some weird conflict if your dual booting [12:13] did you lunch update-grub ? [12:13] and it sets it to 10 [12:13] yeah [12:13] tbh i'm using 'GRUB Customizer' which does it all for you [12:13] after modifing which file ? [12:14] read/edit /etc/default/grub [12:14] yeah you don't know - fair enough [12:14] you are very polite [12:14] your welcome [12:14] well i need to talk to someone who understands the actual issue! [12:15] lantizia: usually you would set "GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden" in /etc/default/grub [12:15] yeah it its - but it doesn't do it [12:16] another guy has the same issue here ...https://askubuntu.com/questions/1036091/how-to-set-grub-timeout-to-0-on-ubuntu-18-04 [12:16] lantizia: that's due to /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober [12:16] hidden doesn't work if you are using os-prober [12:16] lantizia: when you've other OSs it changes [12:16] i'm about to make a manual entry for windows instead and tuen os probe off [12:17] * lantizia reboots [12:17] lantizia: the key part you can probably affect in config is this test: " if [ "$quick_boot" = 1 ] ..." [12:17] lantizia: so, find out how/what sets quick_boot and set it to 0 [12:42] does 18.04 server have significantly higher requirements than 16.04? (ie if im spinning up a cheap VPS with 512mb of ram, should 18.04 run fine?) [12:43] https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/preparing-to-install.html.en [12:43] depends on what you are doing with the vps [12:44] not much, some python scripts, maybe host a simple django site [12:44] then i would recommend upping it to 1gig if you can just to be on the safe side === emerson is now known as GDPR [12:47] Hey guys I'm switching to Ubuntu 18.04 from and old version of Ubuntu (15.10). In the installer if I select erase 'Erase Ubuntu and install' will that take care of using the same home and swap partitions or do I have to manually do that with the ' else' option. I really don't want it to wipe my /home. [12:48] no that will erase everything [12:48] ddoobb: it will delete everything on the selected target [12:49] Alright glad I asked here before going ahead [12:49] ddoobb, no need to to wipe ./home , just set the mountpoint for it and use manual partitioninmg [12:50] When I select the / partition that Ubuntu will be upgraded in, does it matter if I don't select 'format this position'? [12:50] Partition [12:50] it will format it anyway [12:51] best to do so [12:51] Alright thanks guys [12:51] ddoobb: first of all, you really need to have a backup before doing this installation (and in general). [12:51] there is an option to not to ? [12:51] is /home a partition ? [12:51] gpunk yeah there's a checkbox when manual partitioning and you can leave it turned off [12:52] gpunk yeah my/home is a separate partition [12:52] usw manual in oreder to set your /home partition mountpoint [12:52] ddoobb: yes please backup your important data files prior to installing [12:53] I live life on the edge [12:53] hi all i was hoping someone could tell me what the latest and greatest kernel is and if its a good idea to upgrade mine i have 4.15.0-36-generic-Thank you [12:53] ok you'r good, but better do backups ... [12:54] just make sure you don't choose to format /home, ddoobb [12:56] conjo: Are you using 18.04? you can install the 4.18 kernel from cosmic via bionic-proposed: linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04-edge [12:57] i am thanks for the reply [12:58] Vähintään tarvitaan se yhdistyksen yleishallinto. [12:58] Sorry - wrong channel. [13:17] If I e-mail an ICS meeting appointment to someone in a different timezone, will it convert to their time? [13:22] Iarla: I'd hope the time is stored in UTC === bs_ is now known as bs [13:23] can anyone tell me why i shouldnt update kernel to 4.19 ? am running ubuntu 18.04 | 4.15.0-36 generic kernel at present [13:23] if the meeting is important send a test appointment and verify Iarla [13:24] conjo: because you might break something is one reason [13:25] to unstale ? [13:25] stable [13:25] conjo: if it isn't an Ubuntu kernel it will be missing some patches Ubuntu carries (e.g. for apparmor, and ZFS) [13:26] how to distinguish what is for ubuntu and what isnt am using ukuu [13:26] conjo: even our mainline builds don't include those patches, so things can break (e.g. lxc/lxd containers) [13:26] TJ-: I'll look into that, thanks. cryptodan it's important to me, but not necessarily to them :) But if I can't be certain, I will ask them to confirm - good idea. [13:27] where can i find a page with information on what is stable and what isnt noob friendly [13:27] and what is for what flavor etc === bs is now known as zombs [13:28] conjo: as I said earlier, kernels shipped in the Ubuntu distro and archive are the only 'stable' packages we support [13:29] conjo: is there a particular reason you feel you need to run a newer kernel? === lotuspsychje__ is now known as lotus|NUC === predmijat_ is now known as predmijat [13:33] no reason other than security possible performance improvement and bug fixes (what i have read about) [13:35] tj can you break that down a little more for me namely "and archive" whats that where do i find this archive you speak of [13:36] Linux T440 4.15.0-38-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 10 10:59:38 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [13:36] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=712019 I'm getting this bug exactly but it says that it was closed upstream already like 4 years ago. How do I fix this? [13:36] bugzilla.redhat.com bug 712019 in kernel "kswapd0 using 100% CPU" [High,Closed: upstream] [13:36] im serious i am learning linux not well versed [13:38] conjo: http://a.co/d/2vqRrik that book helped me get started [13:39] conjo: as for your kernel, the kernel available in the LTS releases of ubuntu (18.04) are kept up to date with security patches for 5 years. You're good. [13:39] cheers mate will check it out [13:41] so just to clarify if i run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y my computer will be updated as much as need be and all good for 5years cus its a lts version [13:41] correct [13:41] thank you [13:44] and looking up support like https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/487620-Kswapd0-high-CPU-usage/page2?s=15cc53dc51d7e71af549c2ff138c15c3 shows no answer [13:47] How can I toggle the terminal using a keybind? For example I want to toggle the terminal using ctrl+space but I also want to minimize the terminal using ctrl+space [13:50] The issue only exists for me for KDE Neon and Ubuntu. In Manjaro, arch and fedora it works fine. It's super annoying because I can't play games [13:52] Does anyone have experience with Ubuntu on a Dell Precision 7710? I have issues with hardware hang (but no kernel panics) and it seems to be video related. Upon sleep, detecting external monitor, suspend, shutdown, the system hangs and has to be manually shutdown by holding power button. [13:56] bfdi533: sounds like firmware ACPI bugs; see/try http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html [14:00] I had read something about ACPI and someone else said to put "acpi=force" into my grub config which I did but it is not any better. [14:02] bfdi533: does "sudo shutdown -h now" power off the system or does it halt it? [14:03] I just tricked a "microsoft-helpdesk-representative" that called me into talking with me for seven minutes explaining to him that i was system administrator, and that I do not run windows. in the end I just started to let him ask his questions. [14:04] When He asked me what I saw on the background of my computer I said that I see the emblem for Interpol on the background of my dekstop.. [14:04] lapion: you got a scammer [14:04] the very second actually [14:04] not a real microsoft tech [14:04] lapion: The topic belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic please... try to keep things for Ubuntu support questions and solutions here [14:05] bfdi533: acpi=foce wouldn't help since ACPI is already enabled :) [14:05] cryptodan, I know... [14:07] I have tried the acpi_osi.sh script and will see how it goes ... [14:07] Certainly the article describes my behaviour. === w0dencafe is now known as wodencafe [14:25] I'm not sure what to google! in osx when I use super/alt/ctrl +left/right I can easily navigate sentences and paragraphs. I'm having trouble w/ the equivalent in gnome firefox google docs === Class7_ is now known as Class7 [14:29]