[00:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL35c990c1fc69: add useage for LXQt configuration center] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL35c990c1fc69 [00:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc9dcd28d264e: Add cursor theme to appearance] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc9dcd28d264e [00:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6b068293033a: Add open in terminal and search for files for pcmanfm-qt] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6b068293033a [00:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALabe3e6c2d49d: Add undo/redo to Featherpad] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALabe3e6c2d49d [01:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdd2aa52d1886: Add how to delete a slide in loimpress] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdd2aa52d1886 [02:52] @tsimonq2 I might get a Chromebook. Do you know if you can easily install 8 gig ram on it and if it runs Lubuntu easily? [03:06] Hey all, I saw on mastadon that you are looking for contributors from Australia. I like in Sydney and am happy to help where I can. [03:47] *I live in Sydney [04:43] hello docEbrown what do you want to help with [04:51] hey, I dont really mind to be honest. I have experience in C++, Python but an happy to write documentation etc whatever is of need really [04:56] I have been mostly writing the documentation really have you had a look at the manual yet? [04:59] not yet, but I'll get onto it. I literally saw the request on mastadon, clicked the link which sent me to the IRC. [05:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T88: Lugito should do diffs] doc-E-brown (Ben Johnston) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T88#2996 [14:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T88: Lugito should do diffs] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T88#2997 [18:02] Dailies are up! [18:02] Go get 'em! [18:02] https://lubuntu.me/downloads [18:08] maybe it is better to move the 19.04 download link at the end of the page? [18:17] @tsimonq2: this is an interesting thing i just stumbled across https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1011 [18:17] Issue 1011 in lxqt/lxqt "Migrate away from openbox and compton" [Open] [18:35] dang, I thought you people already knew about that [18:43] What's the point? [18:47] @tsimonq2 [What's the point?], I'd say it makes a difference for the "maybe we'll port Openbox to Wayland" thing - might be hard to get help from the LXQt devs if many of them don't even use Openbox anymore. [18:49] https://twitter.com/LubuntuOfficial/status/1058067593544773632?s=19 [18:50] @marneu [I'd say it makes a difference for the "maybe we'll port Openbox to Wayland" thin …], I thought wxl already knew about this. I'm banking on the fact that LXQt will be nowhere near finished to using KWin-specific code for Wayland and finishing the port before we finish porting Openbox. [18:50] Thus making us the first LXQt distro with Wayland. [18:51] Sounds like a plan. It appears you're way ahead of us, yet again :D [18:52] Me, I'm probably going to use Sway, though. [18:53] it's way cooler >; ] [18:54] #wmpuns [19:10] I honestly like being able to not have desktop effects as I find them annoying [19:14] @lynorian [ I honestly like being able to not have desktop effects as I find them …], +1 [19:14] Except some transparencies in a dock [19:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T152: This is the most important part, make it count!] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T152 [19:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T152: Disco Dingo Wallpaper] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T152#3016 [19:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T152: Disco Dingo Wallpaper] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T152#3017 [19:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T152: Disco Dingo Wallpaper] Wolfenprey (Tony Cuesta Escobar) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T152#3019 [19:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T153: Modernize the release upgrade process?] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T153 [19:58] @tsimonq2: we doing regular team meetings still? if so, in 1hr [19:59] @wxl [ @tsimonq2: we doing regular team meetings still? if so, in 1hr], Sure [19:59] Let's do it [20:00] might want to send out notifications or whatever [20:01] @Wolfenprey @HMollerCl @kc2bez @marneu @TheWendyPower [20:01] Who am I forgetting? [20:01] i meant to the wider public but ok XD [20:01] Oh @Wafficus [20:02] wxl: I *am* the wider public. [20:02] XD [20:02] Nah, you're now our Reddit Masochist XD [20:02] dammit! [20:08] Sorry, I can't today. I'm in the country with very bad signal. Today is free day here [20:11] I will be in the workplace, so... [20:20] @HMollerCl [Sorry, I can't today. I'm in the country with very bad signal. Today is free day …], No worries, have fun :) [20:20] yeah, @HMollerCl have fun... ME NOT. [20:21] (Sticker, 512x512) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/YAHchXLZ/file_4543.png [20:44] Is the meeting at 5 pm? [20:44] @Wafficus [Is the meeting at 5 pm?], Yeah, your time [20:45] in some time zone yes XD [20:45] Thanks [20:45] Sweet I'll try to answer what I can during my audits cause I work during 6pm [20:45] theoretically it's at ANY time... in some time zone [20:45] Ping me when I'm up [20:45] In Walter's time zone it's like 5 AM right? It's sooo far behind XD [21:12] is it meeting time? [21:12] or a little past ;) [21:12] yep. lead us @tsimonq2 [21:21] Haii [21:21] Ok [21:21] Sec [21:23] Meeting time! [21:23] $ echo $(shuf -e tsimonq2 wxl @Wafficus lynorian kc2bez @Wolfenprey @marneu) [21:24] lynorian wxl @Wafficus tsimonq2 @marneu kc2bez @Wolfenprey [21:24] lynorian: You're up. [21:24] How's the manual coming? [21:24] I have been writing the manual a lot more I have added way more screenshots last week added code directives for things to be run in the command line [21:24] I also have been working on libreoffice writer calc and impress [21:25] while also working on the prefrences [21:25] I have had some thankful other contributions on chapter 1 in good shape and other helping with appendix D for upgrading [21:25] I think I have more than half of all screenshots done [21:26] \o/ [21:26] some chapters still need to be fleshed out for useage [21:26] also contributing guide is pretty much up to date [21:27] fantastic [21:27] Sweet. [21:27] and you've been picking stuff off the mailing list, too, which is nice [21:27] And #lubuntu [21:27] And like, everywhere else :) [21:27] yep [21:28] yeah pay attention to user questions and make sure the manual answers them [21:28] Can I go next? Dinner is soonish [21:29] Of course, when lynorian is done :) [21:29] I am done now [21:29] *cough* [21:29] Fun Discoey things. [21:29] My goal in the next week is the work on getting our infrastructure all good to go for the Disco thing. This'll involve tackling https://phab.lubuntu.me/T150 https://phab.lubuntu.me/T93 [21:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Set up Disco Dingo branches: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T150 [21:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Clean up server side branch handling: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T93 [21:29] Otherwise I want to tinker with OEM stuff to get Pi images working: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T120 https://phab.lubuntu.me/T33 [21:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Wishlist, Open] Get Raspberry Pi images on the official infrastructure: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T120 [21:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Wishlist, Open] Configure OEM: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T33 [21:29] Plus, https://phab.lubuntu.me/T125 seems cool. [21:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] The return of Desktop icons: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T125 [21:30] I pushed this out: https://lubuntu.me/disco-start/ and @Wolfenprey has been doing great work with doing Spanish tweets as well as English. [21:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL97d4cd776cc6: Add alternatives configurator stub with version and how to launch] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL97d4cd776cc6 [21:30] I want to get the ball rolling on all of that in the next week or so. [21:30] So, yeah, any questions? :) [21:31] nope [21:31] I'm good. [21:31] If you ever need help testing Pi images, I've got one lying around that wants to get some use. [21:31] ^same [21:32] i've got some too [21:32] Cool [21:33] I actually don't have a pi oddly enough [21:33] who's next? [21:34] I'll go [21:34] I'm here [21:34] Excellent work lynorian on the manual [21:35] I have been trying to keep up with proofing [21:35] I sent one small edi [21:35] t [21:36] kc2bez: thanks for that [21:36] proofing is huge [21:36] i mean content is huge, too [21:36] YW I will keep plugging away, running through it. [21:36] you two together are just awesome :) [21:37] I did some testing on EFI and encryption, didn't really figure our anything that you didn't alredy know wxl [21:38] I will pick your brain later [21:38] okie dokie [21:38] That is it from me. [21:38] fwiw @tsimonq2's the assignee on ultimately resolving that bug [21:38] I'm here now. Sorry that I'm late. [21:39] i know next to nothing except that it doesn't work and i kind of don't know where to start. the bootloader and all that is a bit of a mystery, especially in the age of efi. [21:39] thanks wxl [21:39] any other takers for next spot? [21:39] I'll go next [21:39] go for it [21:40] So I've been working on the welcome center and provided the initial commit. It works with QMake but I tried adapting it to CMake using a Stack Overflow ex. [21:40] The problem is that i don't think it works with that revision [21:41] I might scrap it and just redo it again since I got CMake working on my laptop. [21:41] I need someone to check that code tbh. [21:41] you're waiting on @tsimonq2 for that no? [21:41] Yes but he's busy with school [21:41] Not his fault tbh [21:42] he's probably waiting on you to fix it for CMake XD [21:42] Otherwise I would like to get the team's opinion to maybe apply principles from six sigma and lean to our work flow [21:42] True [21:43] i think with that it might be more appropriate to make some specific proposals [21:43] I'm trying to learn qt and c++ with stroustrups book on c++ and void realm tutorials as well. [21:44] I'm trying to learn every day after work though I might have to apply for related tech jobs cause my one coworker is leaving at work. [21:44] Anyway that's my bit just wanted to give my update [21:44] sounds good. keep at it. you're doing fantastic. [21:44] I'll definitely think about specific workflows that could be more lean [21:44] Thanks [21:45] neexxt? [21:45] I'll go. [21:45] We have had a lot of sickness in our house the last 3 weeks. So progress has been very slow. I created a to-do/wish list of tasks for myself. I did a poll of some distro hoppers to see what they look for in a Welcome center and have started the on the mockup for the Welcome Center and the Lubuntu-Devel site. [21:46] Sweet I'd love to see that Wendy when you get the chance [21:46] Sounds awesome [21:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdf87d9bc41f9: Add users and groups screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdf87d9bc41f9 [21:47] can you link to that? [21:47] I hop to have it done this week. It will help to guide the code, which I want to help with as well. [21:47] Now that I feel more comfortable with qt creator we can make your vision a reality and make it look pretty with your button design work. [21:47] @wxl link to what? the Welcome Mockup? [21:48] Sounds good Wendy. Check out the void realms qt c++ tutorials btw. It's been more solidifying to me than qt's beginner guide docs [21:48] Thanks @Wafficus [21:50] yes wendy [21:51] I don't have the mockup on the internet anywhere. Howver I can save what I have to a jpg file and shae it. [21:51] That'd be great. [21:52] yeah i want to see that! :) [21:52] You can make an images folder called "Mockups Folder" on the R/Welcome Center distro [21:52] YEs I can do that! [21:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T154: Fix shortcuts] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T154 [21:55] anything else? [21:55] This user is using Alt-3 and Alt-4 for one-handed window tiling. If you're already changing the defaults, might as well consider this! [21:55] Fwd from white_magic: marneu: mostly these: https://pastebin.com/q7EfLA4a [21:56] (this is re: the new phab task) [21:57] not sure if any of our applicatoins use alt 3 or alt 4 [21:57] It might lead to some weirdness in webbrowser. [21:58] yeah well i'm not redefining EVERYTHING [21:58] renamed: Fix shortcuts related to Super key [21:58] yeah that would be way too much if it really conflicts [21:58] anyways ok i'm gonna go [21:59] I've been generally taking my Release Manager-required post-release break [21:59] been busy with the kid, too [21:59] added some tasks, found some new bugs, made a catch-all for 18.10 stuff that needs to be cleaned up [22:00] answered a bunch of questions on the mailing list and in #lubuntu [22:01] filed a bug about the confusing view settings in pcmanfm-qt which was kind of shot down to some degree so any comments there might go a long way https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/799 [22:01] Issue 799 in lxqt/pcmanfm-qt "view settings need clean up" [Open] [22:01] now that halloweeen is over i'll have more time and can get started on those 18.10 things [22:02] but hey if anyone is bored, they can start with the trojitá sru [22:02] (testing) [22:02] as that willl be number one [22:02] I can help with that ^ [22:02] that'd be great [22:03] and that's about all :) [22:03] the issues that are blocking it were with some obscure cpu architecture, right? [22:03] i believe that's resolved now [22:04] Well then! It already works in Disco, it's probably time I figured out how to test SRUs [22:04] !info libqt5webkit5 cosmic [22:04] libqt5webkit5 (source: qtwebkit-opensource-src): Web content engine library for Qt. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.212.0~alpha2-12ubuntu1 (cosmic), package size 11486.4 kB, installed size 47164 kB [22:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALefa08444d372: Screenshot for file associations and fix warning] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALefa08444d372 [22:04] !info libqt5webkit5 cosmic-proposed [22:04] libqt5webkit5 (source: qtwebkit-opensource-src): Web content engine library for Qt. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.212.0~alpha2-12ubuntu1.1 (cosmic-proposed), package size 11466.1 kB, installed size 46949 kB [22:04] there we go [22:04] that's the one [22:05] so you could add the proposed repo, then install libqt5webkit5=5.212.0~alpha2-12ubuntu1.1 [22:05] then disabled proposed so you don't get in trouble :) [22:06] :) [22:06] (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/bQfv474G/file_4547.png [22:07] according to this, you can set a preference for it in apt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed [22:07] (might be outdated, because it's the ubuntu wiki) [22:07] @TheWendyPower [], WOW. That looks amazing. [22:08] ^^^ that [22:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfa0f5aa4ef92: Add monitor settings screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfa0f5aa4ef92 [22:08] By the way, fish and chips is great :) [22:08] Thanks. The goal was to make it look like it belongs. [22:08] Very nice Wendy! [22:08] love the colors [22:10] So [22:10] wxl: Anything else? [22:10] @kc2bez you can respond here if it looks good/bad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtwebkit-opensource-src/+bug/1799026 as well as on the internal task https://phab.lubuntu.me/T135 [22:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] patch qtwebkit so Trojitá emails display correctly: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T135 [22:10] Launchpad bug 1799026 in qtwebkit-opensource-src (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Trojitá plaintext emails are displayed letter by letter" [High, Fix Committed] [22:10] nope i'm done [22:11] Alright. [22:11] Will do wxl [22:11] So, @marneu is our new Reddit Masochist. New title names welcome. :P [22:11] How's r/Lubuntu been looking? [22:12] Well, it's quiet except for the occasional support request. [22:12] Looks awesome @TheWendyPower [22:12] Might need to lower the spam filter settings, there are still too many legit posts that get caught in it. [22:12] Now I know you prefer a left and right panel format and not vertically good to know [22:13] @marneu [Might need to lower the spam filter settings, there are still too many legit pos …], Got it. [22:13] @marneau any of those that need us to fix/improve things or require manual entries? [22:14] I've set up an RPI-powered display to alert me of new modqueue items, so that works for now. [22:14] But when I'm asleep, submitters will obviously have to wait :D [22:14] Sweeet \o/ [22:15] Other than that, I submitted a new ascii-logo for Lubuntu to neofetch last week (or something). [22:15] that was you? rad! [22:15] Needs some cleaning up maybe, I used a webservice to generate it. ... wxl: Yeah, 'marneu' was already taken on Github :D [22:16] We ship neofetch by default, maybe we should enable that logo by default >_> [22:16] Yeah, you'd probably need to alias neofetch. [22:16] does it not Just Work? [22:16] i haven't looked at the code [22:16] i assume it uses lsb [22:16] no, because of Ubuntu flavors [22:16] ^ [22:17] Coulda sworn some flavors had it working by default at some point, though. [22:17] does it have a config file? [22:17] we could ship one of those if so [22:18] It does, but I think you can't specify this. [22:18] there is a config file [22:18] Didn't think lubuntu could run in a raspberry pi tbh [22:18] You could alias 'neofetch' with 'neofetch --ascii_distro lubuntu', but idk if that's good form. [22:19] Nuts thought the new lowest gig ram requirement is 1 gig min [22:19] @Wafficus [Didn't think lubuntu could run in a raspberry pi tbh], Oh it can [22:19] see if you can figure that out, @marneu. assuming the neofetch package had the new logo, it would be a simple fix in lubuntu-default-settings [22:19] @marneau that would involve likely shipping a .bashrc which is not ideal [22:19] wxl: But it's how agaida would do it XD [22:19] "Oh just put it in /etc/skel" [22:19] @Wafficus not the original pi [22:19] * wxl sighs [22:19] Pi3 right? [22:19] And 2 [22:19] I usually throw aliases into ~/bin, but yeah I'll take a look at the config. [22:20] we don't have a ~/bin by default admittedly [22:20] yep @Wafficus [22:20] Oh, yeah [22:20] I want one! [22:20] Sick good to know tbh. Always debated it [22:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf48eb2869c5c: Fix link and use .. code:: for command line] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf48eb2869c5c [22:21] I thought only raspian and retro pi could be run on it and other super low requirement os's [22:21] Lubuntu 16.04 *is* a super low requirement OS :D [22:21] Even uses Raspbian's DE. [22:21] Uh, Raspbian uses *our* DE XD [22:21] LXQt works as well, I've tested it on Raspbian 9 [22:22] uuh, yeah [22:22] How much ram does raspberry pi 3 have anyway [22:22] Anyway, anything else to mention @marneu? :) [22:22] 1GB [22:22] nope! [22:22] Good to know [22:23] I guess kc2bez is next. [22:23] Or wait... did you go or not? :) [22:23] did [22:23] Cool. [22:23] I did. [22:24] And I don't think @Wolfenprey is around, but I'd like to congratulate him on his good work lately with the Spanish group :) [22:24] We're up to 164 members on Telegram. [22:24] WOW! [22:24] Pretty sick [22:24] ikr :D [22:24] Muy bueno [22:25] 😄 [22:25] Keep on chugging away, y'all! I think next week I want to resume the weekly newsletters, immediately after the meeting to get content from everyone in there. [22:25] Speaking of that... [22:25] It would be great to get people to RSVP for these things on Phab. :P [22:25] Next one: https://phab.lubuntu.me/E12 [22:26] And if for some reason I forget your name in the invitations list, let me know and I'll gladly add you. [22:26] That way I can prepare the List Of Doom, AKA who goes first, beforehand. :P [22:27]