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[07:06] <didrocks> good morning
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[07:15] <duflu> Morning didrocks.
[07:15] <duflu> Wait, holidays?
[07:15] <duflu> Oh, no. I see
[07:17] <didrocks> hey duflu: swapped with tomorrow :)
[07:44] <Nafallo> o/
[07:45] <duflu>     \o
[07:50] <Nafallo> I iz ze tired.
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[07:58] <didrocks> hey Nafallo
[08:01] <Nafallo> coffee and medicine... that's better :-P
[08:05] <duflu> RAOF: Was it this missing from archive that we need for EGLStreams builds? https://github.com/NVIDIA/egl-wayland
[08:06] <duflu> It would be nice if when switching Nvidia to KMS that it used the Nvidia hardware and not software rendering :)
[08:14] <tjaalton> hum, maybe I should package those for pkg-xorg
[08:15] <Nafallo> duflu: sounds like an expectation problem ;-)
[08:17] <duflu> tjaalton, I'm not completely sure but I think that package has what's missing to cause mutter builds to say EGLStreams support is absent
[08:17] <duflu> -package +project
[08:18] <tjaalton> right
[08:18] <tjaalton> does kms cause issues on xorg side too?
[08:18] <duflu> Honestly, I forgot to try Nvidia KMS with Xorg
[08:18] <duflu> I'm back to Intel
[08:19] <doko> is osomon working this week?
[08:19] <duflu> doko, not back till Monday
[08:20] <doko> ouch, libreoffice ftbfs in disco :-/
[08:20] <duflu> tjaalton, I would not recommend flipping the KMS switch by default at the same time. But only because I don't know all the consequences
[08:21] <tjaalton> at the same time as..?
[08:21] <duflu> tjaalton, at the same time as packaging the missing eglstreams stuff
[08:21] <tjaalton> k
[08:21] <duflu> Forgot for a moment they are separate source packages, so less of an issue
[08:21] <tjaalton> I surely won't
[08:22] <tjaalton> though I'd expect nvidia to ship a version of it, no
[08:22] <tjaalton> ?
[08:22] <duflu> tjaalton, again not sure. Only seen it on github
[08:23] <duflu> Owned by NVIDIA
[08:23] <tjaalton> with the driver I mean
[08:23] <tjaalton> they shipped libglvnd too
[08:23] <duflu> I am guessing they don't consider it mature, or blessed, or something
[08:23] <tjaalton> since they're the only consumer I can think of
[08:55] <willcooke> morning all
[08:56] <duflu> Hi willcooke
[08:58] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[09:00] <Nafallo> hi willcooke
[09:03] <Laney> yello
[09:04] <Nafallo> morning Laney
[09:07] <duflu> ello Laney
[09:07] <didrocks> hey Laney
[09:12] <Laney> hey Nafallo duflu and didrocks!
[09:27] <doko> ricotz: please could you have a look at the libreoffice ftbfs in disco?
[09:29] <ricotz> doko, this is the openjdk11 problem
[09:29] <ricotz> doko, just apply https://launchpadlibrarian.net/392800154/libreoffice_1%3A6.1.3~rc1-0ubuntu0.18.10.1_1%3A6.1.3~rc1-0ubuntu0.18.10.2.diff.gz
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[11:06] <RAOF> We just need a devel link for `libnvidia-wayland-egl`, which is shipped in the main NVIDIA packages.
[11:06] <RAOF> <freenode_duf "RAOF: Was it this missing from a"> No, that's not it.
[12:20] <tjaalton> RAOF: is it ok to build-depend on packages from restricted?
[12:20] <tjaalton> I don't think that would be a solution for debian anyway
[12:21] <tjaalton> so it'd need to be packaged, which is almost done now
[13:12] <dchalmers> qq: If I am on cosmic, is it possible to install software from a PPA where the author hasn't provided a Release file for cosmic yet?
[13:16] <willcooke> dchalmers, short answer AFAIK, no
[13:16] <willcooke> I expect there is a way to try and force it, but I wouldnt bother
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[14:48] <kenvandine> willcooke: i can't add jamesh to a card on the 19.04 board.  Maybe he needs to be added to the board as well?
[14:57] <kenvandine> popey: that content interface bug (platform snap not mounting) has been fixed!
[14:57] <kenvandine> popey: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/6044/files
[14:57] <gitbot> snapcore issue (Pull request) 6044 in snapd "cmd/snap-confine: remove stale mount profile along stale namespace" [⚠ Critical, Closed]
[15:02] <willcooke> kenvandine, try now
[15:03] <willcooke> kenvandine, I've added him but maybe he has to accept it first
[15:03] <kenvandine> willcooke: bingo, thanks
[15:06] <kenvandine> willcooke: we need till as well
[15:09] <om26er> Where do Canonical's hardware certification guys hang, is there an IRC channel ?
[15:09] <om26er> Specifically wanted to talk to them about this issue I reported https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-certification/+question/675854
[15:38] <Laney> not sure there's a place
[16:34] <willcooke> parents evening, bbiab
[17:09] <willcooke> back
[17:13] <popey> kenvandine: yay!
[18:08] <willcooke> night all
[20:33] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, https://imgur.com/a/K6NyrsN
[22:13] <RAOF> tjaalton: KMS by default would cause problems, yes.
[22:15] <RAOF> tjaalton: For example, on my hybrid laptop, having nvidia KMS enabled results in no output in X (because, even though the NVIDIA KMS node cannot drive the internal panel, the modesetting driver bound to the Intel DRM node thinks its a PRIME slave and so doesn't drive the internal panel either)
[22:25] <RAOF> tjaalton: And, looking at it again, I think that https://github.com/NVIDIA/egl-wayland would be enough to build EGLStreams-based compositors out of.
[22:25] <RAOF> I was a bit confused because a symbol they need is not defined in there, but due to the magic of `wayland-scanner` it should be defined in generated code that gets linked in…