[00:00] I'm looking for a program that can add desktop icons to my flwm, like idesk but I'd prefer it understands ~/Desktop/*.desktop [00:00] any suggestions? [00:00] James_Epp: you don't. You use Windows for that. [00:01] OerHeks: hi [00:02] James_Epp, do you plan on doing this regularly/ more than once? [00:02] royal_screwup21, I'd put it somewhere in my software collection and fiddle with the class path. [00:03] leftyfb: Well surely there is. I assume dd could do it but I'm skeptical that it would preserve the partition layout. Sven_vB: Well if I can do it, I'll certainly do it from *nix more often [00:03] damiryden [00:03] damiryden [00:03] Caroline^^: can we help you with something? [00:05] James_Epp: tried this? https://atkdinosaurus.wordpress.com/2016/07/20/how-to-create-a-bootable-windows-7-usb-stick-in-linux/ [00:05] James_Epp, in that case I'd dump the first few KB/MB of the disk (to get the MBR) and each partition that might hold a VBR, do the windows magic in windows, dump the disk areas again and compare. [00:05] damiryden [00:05] Caroline^^: please stop [00:07] James_Epp, if the parition table really is the only problem, you could make a backup of that, dd the MBR, then restore the partition table. [00:07] sven_vb: Good point -- I think gdisk can backup/restore tables [00:07] or if you know where the partition table is, just don't write that part. [00:08] having a backup will be a good idea anyway. [00:08] James_Epp: Did you try this? https://atkdinosaurus.wordpress.com/2016/07/20/how-to-create-a-bootable-windows-7-usb-stick-in-linux/ [00:10] leftyfb: Not yet -- I'm investigating now, thank you! My google-fu did not bring up that result [00:10] James_Epp, even better, try it with disks that don't hold important data for practive. [00:10] *practice [00:10] sven_vB: this one doesn't hold anything important, I just lack the proper usb 3.0 hardware to make massive copy/pastes very quick [00:22] Sven_vB: leftyfb: Thanks for the tips. RN I'm not sure if I'm getting false-positive results or not. This will require a lot more testing. Thanks for the tips. [00:35] can someone help me fix the boot time in my ubuntu OS, so far I have tried installing ubuntu 1804 x64, then installing ubuntu 18 04 x64 minimal install, and it still simply lags on the boot, a plain purple screen just sits there for awhile doing nothing for a long time. it takes 37 seconds to get to the desktop, which is horrible since i am using an i7 processor, 8gb ram and an SSD [00:35] i gave theb entire ssd to ubuntu minimal install and let it erase everything that ws once on the drive [00:38] sometimes if the network is messed up, it can take a while to boot. mine takes only a few seconds [00:40] please explain, my network is not at all messed up. i dontconnect any of my computers [00:41] when isay boot i mean from dead off untill i am on the desktop [00:41] this is from a recent email in the ubuntu support mailing list: "Check with "systemd-analyze blame" and "systemd-analyze critical-chain []" where/why the delay is. You might also want to add "systemd.log_level=debug" to your kernel cmdline in irder to get more logs." [00:41] good luck, gtg [00:42] i am assuming those are terminal commands so ill try the 1st one now,,,if thats not what he meant someone else please step in i thin he assumed i know linux. [00:43] i have an 18.04 machine with an encrypted lvm that just became unbootable with a "volume group not found" error [00:43] does anyone know of recent changes that could have caused this and/or the shortest path to making it boot again? [00:45] uh, never mind, it flaked [00:45] So, how exactly do I install ubuntu on a Windows XP’s? [00:45] in context it looks like some kind of ui issue with the keyboard and luks decryption [00:45] *-‘s [00:47] Hi - I am trying to start a service, but it is failing saying "Failed to start LSB: Starts [PROGRAM]" [00:51] i have my system analize blame report if anyone know howto use it i can paste it to imgur [00:55] also havea system analize crirtal chain [00:58] wow 1159 people and noone can help [00:59] piesquared: you mean, install over it? [00:59] Yes. As in, goodbye windows forever. [01:13] just follow the install prompts and it'll let you select an option to format the entire HD and install over it [01:15] the tab feature is not working here === capella|away is now known as capella [01:36] Had no idea Chromium was a 10.GiB download from github ;P [01:36] 10.94 [01:48] i have noticed this of my computer for about 2 weeks... [01:49] my computer freezes up when i try to compile some code. [01:50] it usually takes about 10 minutes to compile but recently, it just freezes up halfway... im not sure how to troubleshoot this...any ideas? [01:52] while my computer is old, i dont think thats the reason because i manage to build it in an 18.04 partition. [01:53] Hung check temps [01:54] temps? [01:54] the fans didnt spin up as usual..htop didnt show any particularly stressful load [01:55] how can i add a custom wallpaper to 'backgrounds' so that it appears as a choice, and loads at startup? [01:55] patr0clus, is variety your solution? [01:55] i added said to the 'backgrounds' folder. [01:55] i dont understand? [01:56] im using budgie. [01:57] https://itsfoss.com/applications-manage-wallpapers-ubuntu/ [01:59] thx [02:02] Hung also could run memtest [02:06] piaaa aaaaaaa [02:06] err sorry. lag. [02:07] LOL === capella is now known as capella|away === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [03:52] Hi all. I just changed my theme in GNOME tweaks, but the top bar is still grey. Is it possible to change it to go with my new theme? [03:58] recj: wich theme did you try? [04:11] Apache HTTPd's processes can't create files in /tmp/ but I never had this problem in NetBSD. I also couldn't find solutions on Google. Any suggestions? [04:11] Change group? [04:12] I've tried using a real user instead of www-data, but this didn't make any difference either. [04:12] Ditto for the group. [04:12] I got rid of AppArmour because it was interfering with other stuff, so I know that's not it. [04:14] /tmp/ has 777 so it shouldn't matter which user Apache2 is running under anyway, right? [04:16] Hello I am running into a problem. I have 2 Ubuntu 18.04 machines that cannot VDI files when I try to load them via Virtualbox. The VDI are from windows machines that I P2V. Any help would be appreciated. [04:16] correction *cannot see VDI files* [04:23] rican-linux: perhaps the #vbox guys can help you on that? [04:53] lotuspsychje: adwaita dark [05:02] recj: what happens on other themes switch? [05:03] recj: and wich ubuntu release is this? [05:06] recj: Yaru ? See: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/call-for-participation-an-ubuntu-default-theme-lead-by-the-community/1545/1908 for what is happening with the adwaita theme . [05:06] https://imgur.com/a/Eo6z6On [05:07] https://imgur.com/a/L8QxlDK bar is still grey [05:07] recj: ok 18.04.1 is good, but there's a kernel upgrade .38 already update ssytem please [05:09] how can I do that [05:09] recj: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [05:09] awesome thanks [05:10] recj: if you choose normal adwaita (not black) is it working then? [05:10] no, the top bar is still the same color as ubuntu default theme [05:12] ok did full-upgrade [05:12] recj: reboot, see if it helped? [05:13] alright. Just a moment please. [05:14] i have a computer with only 4 sata ports that i need to recover data from a zfs pool/set. i unplugged the HDs and installed ubuntu onto a USB drive. it boots up fine. but when i plug the HDs back in it doesn't boot. i assume because the device location changed form /dev/sdb to something else. is there a way to fix this? [05:14] Unfortunately, it didn't help [05:14] it drops to initramfs [05:16] recj: did you install other theme styles with ppa or so? [05:20] no, I haven't [05:20] recj: weird, adwaita should be white right [05:27] not sure [05:27] just wnted to be able to change top bar lol [05:43] What was the name of that dropbox like service that was provided by ubuntu it was discontinued a few years ago [05:43] ubuntu one [05:44] Am I right that it was discontinued? [05:44] correctomundo [05:44] That's what I thought thank you [05:44] happy2help! [05:45] I was writing a paper and for the life of me couldn't remember the name of it [05:45] eh? what class are you taking? [05:46] Systems analysis and design [05:46] I was talking about web services like dropbox and wanted to mention ubuntu one because it was no longer around [05:46] *Is no longer around [05:46] ah! nice one. fyi: I believe there was a white paper/case study published regarding the nextcloud or owncloud IOT development [05:47] Thanks don't need to get that detailed tho just needed three sentences for that question [07:42] how do i restore the left launch bar - 18.04.1 lts [07:47] catbeard: restore? what did you do to get rid of it? [07:50] Hello o/. Having trouble with pam and i3lock on ubuntu 18.04.1. "pam_encryptfs: set euid error" This system had a /home with encryptfs, but not longer used and the old user who has access to the encryptfs was deleted [07:50] any idea ? [07:51] it only works when my current user/root is lunching the process i3lock, if i use the same one with a systemd.service this is where it crash. [07:53] Ok, solved :) [08:26] Mhh. Have a program i want to start with my normal user. It works under sudo (but it's really not suppose to work under super power), if i start it without sudo, i have no log/crash of it even in the system. Any way to quick debug this thing ? (most probably a right problem) [08:26] !chmod | tachikomas start here [08:26] tachikomas start here: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [08:26] tachikomas: what happens when you start it as a user [08:27] lotuspsychje, thanks, already done. Try to change all the directory of the app with a 777.. still nothing. It looks like system dependant. [08:27] EriC^^, Nothing [08:27] what does the program do? [08:28] <`mist> hey guys i'm trying to get my intel iGPU working in linux. i've installed multiple drivers but there is nothing showing up in vainfo [08:28] Just open a js windows and do some wget. [08:28] Nothing fancy. [08:28] <`mist> running bionic on kernel 4.15 [08:28] tachikomas: try running it with strace maybe [08:29] tachikomas: strace -o /tmp/log [08:29] i take a look at it :) Thanks EriC^^ [08:29] no problem tachikomas [08:29] `mist: this looks like a clean tutorial: https://medium.com/codezillas/step-by-step-guide-to-install-tensorflow-gpu-on-ubuntu-18-04-lts-6feceb0df5c0 [08:31] <`mist> https://pastebin.com/fuzJASaD [08:31] <`mist> this is my vainfo [08:32] <`mist> tensorflow is nvidia, i'm looking for intel vaapi/quicksync [08:36] `mist: can this help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntelQuickSyncVideo [08:39] <`mist> thats the one i followed, thank you for trying =) [08:49] EriC^^, thanks, strace helped me a lot :) [08:49] tachikomas: great, np :) [09:14] hi everybody, for some unknown reason, out of the blue chromium doesn't want to start any more, when i run it from the console i get: Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/fonts.conf", line 146: blank doesn't take any effect anymore. please remove it from your fonts.conf [09:14] [10146:10161:1104/095348.148620:ERROR:bus.cc(394)] Failed to connect to the bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Permission denied [09:14] pcilib: Cannot open /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:00:00.0/resource: Permission denied [09:14] Vuurdraak_: are you on chromium snap perhaps? [09:15] im using the chromium from the ubuntu repository [09:15] Vuurdraak_: from wich ubuntu version? [09:15] i tried to do a complete removal and reinstall, i setted apparmor to complain mode for chromium [09:15] 14.04 [09:15] !info chromium-browser trusty [09:16] chromium-browser (source: chromium-browser): Chromium web browser, open-source version of Chrome. In component universe, is optional. Version 65.0.3325.181-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 (trusty), package size 51309 kB, installed size 185086 kB [09:16] doublecheck the version please Vuurdraak_ ? [09:17] 65.0.3325.181-0ubuntu0.14.04.1 [09:17] Vuurdraak_: thank you [09:18] mmm i see more chromium stuff still in enforce mode in apparmor [09:19] Vuurdraak_: are you playing with profiles or so? [09:19] no i didnt touch anything [09:19] Vuurdraak_: perhaps test chromium on another user just as a test? [09:19] i did a sudo aa-complain usr.bin.chromium-browser [09:19] to make sure that it was not apparmor [09:20] dispite that i still see: /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser [09:20] /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser//chromium_browser_sandbox [09:20] /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser//lsb_release [09:20] /usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser//xdgsettings [09:20] set to enforce mode , no clue where that is comming from [09:20] Vuurdraak_: kindly use http://paste.ubuntu.com for pasting stuff [09:21] sorry yeh, [09:21] no worries [09:22] seeing an older bug on it Vuurdraak_ https://bugs.launchpad.net/apparmor-profiles/+bug/776648 [09:22] Launchpad bug 776648 in apparmor (Ubuntu) "apparmor profile for chromium browser" [Medium,Fix released] [09:23] mm , im gona try to disable apparmor compltely see if that fixes it [09:25] noop with apparmor disabled chromium still wont launch [09:25] try another user Vuurdraak_ [09:25] realy weird [09:25] Vuurdraak_: to prove its user related [09:25] i would need to create one [09:27] can i login to a 2nd account while still running my current account/user ? [09:27] Vuurdraak_: yes if you dont log out the other user [09:31] same stuff on test account, same errors in the console [09:32] Vuurdraak_: hmm that doesnt sound too good [09:33] yeh very weird, as normaly when i do a complete removal and reinstall of stuff it works again :') [09:33] Vuurdraak_: did you cleanout the configs in /home too? [09:33] no, but it should have been empty/fresh in the test account right ? [09:34] yeh [09:34] Vuurdraak_: indeed this proves deeper stuff is going on [09:37] there is sended the .config/chromium to the trash, did a complete removal & reinstall :') and same error no chromium idk xD [09:37] ah well at least chrome & ff still work === stooj_ is now known as stooj [09:38] i used chromium exclusively for my banking and email, i'll gues i move it over to chrome then [09:38] Vuurdraak_: have about yout system, did you add external ppa's of any kind? [09:38] your [09:38] yeh there r a lot of different ppa's [09:39] not sure wich, when i need stuff and it says add this ppa i do it :') [09:39] Vuurdraak_: maybe something scrambled your system there [09:39] i guess so [09:39] Vuurdraak_: try !ppapurge set everything vanilla, and cleanout system with bleachbit [09:40] Vuurdraak_: complete remove of chromium and configs [09:40] i will live with it , i need to do a reinstall of ubuntu soon anyway as support drops for 14.04 in april [09:40] !ppapurge ? [09:40] Vuurdraak_: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [09:40] !ppapurge [09:40] To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [09:41] Vuurdraak_: this removes your installed ppa's and packages properly way [09:41] mm but it might break other things instlled i guess [09:41] if stuff depends on the ppa then they'll break [09:42] Vuurdraak_: we always reccomend to keep things as vanilla as possible on ubuntu [09:42] but ppa-purge tries to restore the repo packages instead of the ppa ones [09:44] i got 13 outsider ppa's i see [09:44] ah well [09:44] i want to reinstall soon anyway [09:44] i'll just leave chromium broken for now and wait for the complete reinstall [09:46] thanks for trying to help anyway :D [09:46] no sweat [09:49] !info lynis | Vuurdraak_ to full system test [09:49] Vuurdraak_ to full system test: lynis (source: lynis): security auditing tool for Unix based systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.6.2-1 (bionic), package size 179 kB, installed size 1353 kB [09:50] lynis, not didnt know about that tool yet :) [09:50] Vuurdraak_: could be interesting to scan system, see whats going on in there, specially when you use pc banking on broken browsers [09:51] Vuurdraak_: keep in mind lynis take a while to scan [09:59] does lynis leave a log file somewhere as it exited the terminal [10:03] Vuurdraak_: yeah its gonna make a report, cant recall where anymore [10:04] Vuurdraak_: "man lynis" might mention something [10:04] just discovered an auto starter that i didnt know about from mega drive [10:05] Vuurdraak_: might be in /var/log/.. [10:05] good point [10:06] yeh i see a log there [10:08] and now the fun part how to interpret the result xD [10:12] Vuurdraak_: feel free to hastebin us the results [10:12] ah well idk, i can not find a hidden process, removed an auto starter from //home/vuurdraak/.config/autostart ,not sure what lynis wants to tell me :D [10:13] k [10:13] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZnBKjhFQzt/ [10:13] Vuurdraak_: nothing concerning apparmor or browsers? [10:15] <`mist> anyone ever enabled igpu on ubuntu? vaapi is not showing any gpu [10:17] bbl [10:22] is the log telling me i got php installed somewhere ? [10:25] ah well cant see anything realy, i guess its just saying it cant find surten php stuff [10:27] normaly i would asume any gpu internnal or not is discovered automaticly by ubuntu , do you have both an igpu + seperate 3d card ? @ mist [10:43] Hello everyone ! On Ubuntu 18.04 I am getting messages about updating bios . Reading this https://askubuntu.com/questions/983267/how-to-disable-bios-update-feature-in-ubuntu-17-10-18-04 and searching fwupd on Ubuntu software, fwupd is not installed on my system [10:43] What can I do to disable BIOS update on my system? [10:46] afx_: what messages? [10:47] EriC^^, one moment pls [10:47] I started with BSD Unix and Slackware, and am temporarily trying Ubuntu, and am having a problem with it being not Unix-like. I have a backup script that does 'read -p "[asks a question,]"' which 'read -p' means it reads a line from stdin while showing a prompt. On Unix and Slackware, 'read -p' correctly does the prompt. On Kubuntu (even on the pure non-GUI terminal, not just its Xterm) 'read' acts as if there is no '-p,' and just continues without [10:47] letting the user do input. How do I get the prompt back for 'read' on Ubuntu? [10:48] EriC^^, https://imgur.com/a/k0Vxmkh these messages [10:50] First of all , is it Ubuntu specific updates , or will this update the BIOS of my laptop? [10:51] hello guys. I have a question. is it possible to keep the bootable usb up-to-date, so when i install Xubuntu somewhere else, the packages are already up-to-date. it's handy if the PC that we are installing the OS doesn't have internet connection at the time [10:52] basically, I want yo know if i i can make "apt update && apt dist-upgrade" to be sticky [10:53] EliteGod, you could startup the os in the usbstick with an apt update each time it boot. But most likely require a root access. [10:54] like adding a systemd.service who do it at eatch boot. [10:54] afx_, looklike a bios update. Maybe for spectre/meltdown ? [10:55] tachikomas, I am not sure but I would like to disable this feature , as this is a corporate laptop [10:56] and if anything is getting messed up , this would cause some trouble [10:56] afx_, then you can skip the upgrade. Or do it within the official tool/official download. [10:57] therfore, if you have any intel AT or other asset management tools activated in your bios, you might encounter somes issues [10:57] tachikomas: what i meant is to update and upgrade the USB pen with the latest updates and keep the USB pen up-to-date. afaik, the USB pen does not keep the updates (something related to persistency?) [10:59] Oh. Your booting from a live cd ? [11:00] Then yes, it will always comeback to the version of the livecd. If you want to have a persistant update system on a usb stick, you have to install properly ubuntu to the usbstick. [11:00] currently I'm not. but I want to make is sticky so i can update the USB pen and then install it in a friend laptop with the latest updates already included, if i make myself clear [11:00] oh. [11:00] tachikomas, thank you ! I am asking to disable BIOS update notifications. So I followed the askubuntu link suggestion and did a sudo apt-get remove fwupd . I think this fine now [11:01] afx_, no problem :) [11:01] tachikomas, By the way shouldnt be the fwupd listed as installed in Ubuntu software? [11:01] EliteGod, then, you could have a local repo and make your update from it. [11:01] I mean since I can uninstall it iwth sudo apt-get remove fwupd .. [11:03] it should [11:03] look like installed by default btw [11:04] afx_, fwupd is just the daemon to update your firmware, independant of the update itself you download trough the software manager [11:04] I'm reading upon persistent storage to see if it's what i'm looking fotr [11:04] for* [11:05] EliteGod, i would make a local repo for that. But anyway, you will never be as up to date as a computer connected online. [11:05] tachikomas, sure but fwupd can be found under software . There fwupd was listed as not installed [11:05] I am not talking about the BIOS update itself , if that is what you mean [11:05] tachikomas: the idea is to boot the usb every day for updating tho [11:06] afx_, i have the same state. [11:07] tachikomas, i see. That is confusing I guess [11:08] afx_, look like apt dont "know" that the software was installed. [11:08] dependency sems the same, === Butterfly^ is now known as the_house === the_house is now known as Butterfly^ [12:17] hello is 18.04 ready for production given the large number of gnome memory leaks? [12:20] I started with BSD Unix & Slackware, am temporarily trying Ubuntu, having a problem with it being not Unix-like. I have a script doing 'read -p "[asks a question,]"' which 'read -p' means it reads a from stdin, showing a prompt. On Unix and Slackware, 'read -p' correctly prompts. On Kubuntu (even on pure non-GUI terminal, not just its Xterm) 'read' ignores '-p,' and just continues without letting user input. How do I get prompt back for 'read' on [12:20] Ubuntu? [12:22] DarwinElf: that depends on which shell you're using [12:24] DarwinElf: the default system level shell (dash) and the user shell (bash) both support -p [12:26] DarwinElf: Are you aware the "-p" (at least in bash) only works when stdin is a terminal? [12:27] I'm running Debian on a laptop with a single HDD. I want to replace the HDD with a new SSD and at the same time install Ubuntu. Is there a tool that runs on Debian, with which I can install ubuntu on the SSD (externally hooked up). And then when I replace the HDD with the SSD could boot straight into Ubuntu (preferrably without going through the installation wizard ? [12:28] f3bruary: Yes: "debootstrap" - although that does require several additional steps to configure it [12:28] f3bruary: you could also install to the external device via a virtual machine, using its regular installer [12:34] TJ-: thanks. Now to figure out which DE I want [12:46] Hi folks [12:51] it appears to me I can't have assign a heredoc to a bash alias - is that correct? [12:55] yeah, I'm doing this on a terminal [12:55] but it's not working [12:55] in bash [12:55] it just skips the prompt [12:56] same thing happened on another derivative, Mint, which I no longer use because they dropped KDE, so I switched to Kubuntu for some computers. This is an official variant, right? [12:58] DarwinElf, yes it's an official flavour [13:07] DarwinElf: are you sure your script is not redirecting stdin ? [13:12] can anyone check if the context help works in qt creator when pressing F1 key on a function [13:17] DarwinElf, I can reproduce the missing prompt with various I/O redirections. you might wanna check whether the prompting script thinks the terminal is interactive and/or a tty. === murthy is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ [13:18] DarwinElf, alternatively you can just prompt with printf or echo. [13:21] I'm sure it's not [13:21] it's an extremely simple script, doesn't do anything like that [13:22] the magic is in the read command, not the script. === beaver is now known as evilnewbie [13:24] how do you invoke that script? [13:25] typing the name in bash [13:27] you can't prompt with printf or echo, that's nonsense... that just prints something and continues. The point of 'read -p' is it waits until the user has pressed a key. Those other commands don't do the wait [13:27] then instead type a read command directly and see whether it prompts [13:27] Anyone here have experience with the Dell XPS 13 regarding Ubuntu/Linux? I'm considering the i7+16GB model. [13:27] yeah obviously you'd put that read or echo before your read command. [13:28] err, that printf or echo befor your read. [13:28] yes, read works when I use it directly in a shell... not in a script [13:29] that's indeed strange. [13:31] I'll post the script somewhere if anyone wants to see that it's not very complicated [13:32] DarwinElf, https://paste.debian.net/ [13:36] here it is: https://paste.debian.net/1050303/ [13:36] just one slight inaccuracy in the prompt, it backs up a /home/user, not all of /home [13:37] I guess an old version backed up all of /home [13:37] oh so it's a sh script not a bash script. [13:37] and no error checking. [13:37] it doesn't need bash but is compatible === phoenix_firebrd_ is now known as murthy [13:38] the simple work-around would be echo and then read. [13:38] doesn't work either [13:38] read doesn't read [13:38] or if it does, it does too fast [13:38] the echo output doesn't show up? [13:39] sure, echo works [13:39] read doesn't wait for input even without '-p' [13:39] oh ok [13:39] Sven_vB: you're not giving a variable name. read -p "..." VAR_NAME [13:39] oops, DarwinElf ^^^ [13:39] it doesn't require one [13:40] DarwinElf: Yes, it does [13:40] $ read -p "testing" [13:40] DarwinElf, which shell do you use as /bin/sh? [13:40] testingdash: 1: read: arg count [13:40] bash [13:40] DarwinElf, are you double sure? [13:40] not on strictly Unix-like OSes... they don't care if you don't give it a variable [13:41] usually on Ubuntu, sh is dash [13:41] DarwinElf: "readlink -e /bin/sh" [13:41] actually, I see Kubuntu has dash by default. Very strange, I was unaware of this [13:41] DarwinElf: As Sven_vB says, /bin/sh is a sym-link to dash, which as I said at the start, is the system-level default shell for tooling [13:42] DarwinElf, since you wait for enter, you could also head --lines=1 >/dev/null [13:42] I'm usually doing this in an Xterm that runs bash, however [13:42] same thing happens on non-GUI terminal which I guess is dash [13:43] DarwinElf, that's why your shebang matters. [13:43] DarwinElf: but your script's shebang line is set to /bin/sh [13:44] yeah, it works when I changed that [13:44] so dash has a problem with this [13:45] DarwinElf: no, it behaves as specified [13:48] ok, thanks for helping me figure this out. I'm reading about dash and more about 'read -p' and what the differences are [13:49] POSIX doesn't even provide a '-p' [13:50] so it's a GNU thing? [13:50] MmMmM... http://fade.at/Xjh91qaJysgqk24Sas23 [13:55] ^-- redirects to dating website [13:56] Sven_vB: I could do with some dates, there's big holes in the Calendar I'm making! === murthy is now known as phoenix_firebrd_ === phoenix_firebrd_ is now known as murthy === daniel is now known as Guest52800 [14:28] hmm I'm installing ubuntu through virtualbox on an external ssd. The image seems stuck on the user setup screen. Not sure if it's doing anything. How could I check if there's disk activity ? [14:30] doesn't virtualbox have disk status indicators in its little VM status bar? [14:30] in the statusbar to the right there is a small disk icon, when it blinks there's activity [14:30] lost the race :) [14:31] the external ssd is passed through via usb. There's no VDI file or any other virtual disk [14:31] oh ic [14:31] it's straight from ISO to USB [14:31] alternately, the host OS might have a task manager or top utility that tells you the IO read and write bytes of the VM process [14:31] but I don't know if USB would show up there either [14:31] gparted doesn't see the disk neither [14:31] since I attached it to the vm [14:31] shoot your foot off good, didn't ya? :D [14:32] how so ? didn't have much choice doing it this way [14:32] laptop doesn't have available slots for the ssd [14:33] I wonder if there's some sort of virtual-head-clatter process you could attach to an SSD to bring back the acoustic activity indicator.. [14:33] I'll check if there's some kind of disk IO monitor on the host [14:34] can someone help with a slow boot problem (hang on blank purple screen) so far I ran a couple commands "blame commands" and I have the results on a note. [14:35] i think the usb passthrough is actually through network, is there any network activity? [14:35] f3bruary, ext ssd .. what filesystem is that? [14:36] ext4 [14:37] I purchased a new 250gb ssd. 50gb for OS, 200gb for /home. Both ext4 [14:37] I think it's still installing, but I can't tell [14:37] and I don't dare shutting off the vm, so I can check [14:39] f3bruary, is there network activity? [14:39] "usbredir is the name of a network protocol for sending USB device traffic over a network connection. It is also the name of the software package offering a parsing library, a usbredirhost library and several utilities implementing this protocol." [14:41] ah damn, we are talking about virtualbox, don't know how they implement that [14:44] is it normal that these drives disappear when they are attached to a vm ? [14:44] cause fdisk also doesn't show it [14:45] why should fdisk show vbox "partitions" ? [14:46] it should show my external drive, regardless of whether it's attached to a vm [14:46] lsblk would show it [14:47] also not showing. I'm gonna assume something went wrong and it's just idling [14:51] MmMmMmM... http://sht.es/Aujs81nZZNnbI812bnSXX [14:51] how can I query which window manager I'm running? [14:52] !ops | Ansilera [14:52] Ansilera: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax [14:53] hello [14:53] Sven_vB: wmctrl -m # first result on google for "ubuntu which window manager" [14:53] leftyfb, thanks! === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk [14:53] MmMmMmM... http://sht.es/Aujs81nZZNnbI812bnSXX [14:54] leftyfb, all entries show "N/A" as their value :( [14:54] Ansilera: please leave [14:57] found it, ps ax | grep -Pe 'wm|box' # at least finds all of my candidates [14:58] most of wmctrl seems to not work in flwm [14:58] can smbdy help me with ubuntu server [14:59] philip__, it's worth a try. [15:01] Sven_v8, i'm setting up an ark server and i just have a problem with the steam login [15:05] philip__, what did you try (and how, and in which circumstances, including software versions), what did you expect, what happened instead, what's your actual question? [15:09] ubuntu server, logging into steam public to install ark server client, but i got told all the time that the password is incorrect but i checked it more than once, and my actual question would be if you have any idea why he doesnt accept the pw [15:10]