[00:38] <thaurwylth> Does Xubuntu have a nifty installer version available for external media, meaning DVD or even CD-ROM? Definition of nifty: current .iso image is about 1.6 GB for both amd64 and i386, so in a, sorry, bit vague way let's say that nifty is something that if that 1.6 GB necessarily DVD is too big for the system to handle, then the nifty version would help at least with some older machines. (I'm not sure that such a problem ...
[00:38] <thaurwylth> ... would appear but I guess typically installation procedure from a DVD source requires some memory and this memory use will be linked to how big the installer is.)
[00:51] <kumool> oh boy, dont google nifty
[00:52] <kumool> nsfw
[00:52] <thaurwylth> I guess it should actually be, let's say, lean and mean instead of nifty.
[00:52] <kumool> so you mean the hdd is less than 2gb?
[00:53] <kumool> an iso image could be 1.6gb, doesnt mean the whole thing is going to ram
[00:53] <thaurwylth> Yes, this is why I said, 'this memory use will be linked to how big the installer is.'
[00:54] <thaurwylth> I guess RAM available and probably the ability of the machine to access big installation media (not its own HDD size) will be the bottlenecks, if any.
[00:55] <thaurwylth> So, this one, no I don't: 02:52:54  kumool > so you mean the hdd is less than 2gb?
[00:56] <kumool> I can honestly tell you that if you don't have the RAM to run the livecd, you're better off somewhere else, probably dropping into a shell or using debian instead
[00:58] <kumool> oh, and you cant run any browsers either.
[01:01] <thaurwylth> Well, I guess I'll try my luck with the regular ISO. Not right now, though.
[01:08] <Unit193> thaurwylth: 1. At this point you'll want to either stick with Bionic for 32bit, or go somewhere else as it's looking like Ubuntu will drop support for i386 sometime before the next LTS (2020).  2. You can chain load a USB device by using a plop boot live media.  3. While not official, you can use the 'Xubuntu Core' image to fit your needs.
[01:12] <thaurwylth> Righteys, I'll take a note of that. Thanks. Anyways, is it known that Disco will exclusive-or will not have a i386 version available? (Seeing as it will have support available for some part of the Q1 of 2020.)
[01:47] <Unit193> Too early to tell.
[02:03] <Lee_> Anyone here  access Xubuntu system remotely from windows?
[02:03] <Unit193> Via VNC or ssh...?
[02:04] <Lee_> I think it's more vnc like, using windows remote service
[02:04] <Lee_> and sesman-xvnc
[02:05] <Lee_> I also believe xrdp is involved
[02:07] <Lee_> It works on Xubuntu 16.04,  Haven't been able to make it work on Xubuntu 18.04
[02:09] <Unit193> I don't use Xubuntu as an RDP server, I use x11vnc with ultravnc (portable+ssh tunnels) if I need a visual of my desktop.
[02:10] <Lee_> would x11vnc with ultravnc allow remote log into various user IDs on the Xubuntu system or is it just to the system console?
[02:15] <Lee_> I suspect my issue with xrdp might be Ubuntu wide, rather than just Xubuntu specific.  It was fine on 14.04 and 16.04.  The failure is on 18.04.
[02:16] <Unit193> Isn't that unmaintained anyway?
[02:16] <Lee_> Which isn't unmaintained?
[02:16] <Unit193> xrdp.
[02:17] <Unit193> Nope, it very much is.  OK.
[02:17] <Lee_> That might be true however, if something worked with previous versions of Xubuntu and fails with 18.04 then something is causing the failure.
[02:19] <Lee_> Where would I go to get help with this?  Perhaps it is appropriate to report as a 'bug'?
[02:21] <Lee_> I tried installing the version of xrdp that runs well on 16.04 (xrdp_0.6.1-2_amd64.deb) but ran into other issues.  This suggests there are changes to 18.04 outside xrdp that contribute to the failure
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[02:54] <thaurwylth> Hmmm, should I be unamazed that it is not known what architectures a release supports cannot be determined less than five months from the date of publication? Because as a total newbie this sounds a bit amazing.
[02:54] <Unit193> It *just* opened for development, sooo yeah that seems a bit early..
[02:55] <thaurwylth> OK...
[02:59] <Unit193> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseSchedule and actually, the archive is not yet open for uploads even.  You might want to keep an eye on the Ubuntu lists about which arches will be supported.
[06:21] <xubuntu45d> how to change desktop environment
[07:17] <ddoobb> Hey guys, I'm trying to enable hibernation on Xubuntu 18.04. Everything seems to be working except that xfwm4 gets killed after coming back from hibernation. I have to manually run it again through terminal. Any idea what could be wrong? This system worked fine hibernating on Ubuntu 16.10.
[07:17] <ddoobb> I'm using xfce4-session-logout --hibernate
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[16:05] <gijoe3k> Have any you guys had problems setting up XRDP server on Xubuntu 18.04?
[16:06] <gijoe3k> I got it setup but when I try to connect to it using my Windows 7 machine...
[16:07] <gijoe3k> Ill get the logon screen of my XRDP server, put in my username and password..
[16:07] <gijoe3k> Seems to go through....but the screen will turn from green to black and then suddenly disconnect :(
[18:58] <Iolo> Video thumbnails no longer work in Thunar on my laptop. I have the same packages and settings on my desktop, where video thumbnails work correctly. I've tried removing my thumbnails and cache directories, to no avail. htop shows tumblerd using a ton of ram and cpu time when I navigate to a directory with lots of video files. Not sure what to try next, any ideas?
[18:59] <Iolo> 18.04, I forgot to mention
[19:13] <diogenes_> Iolo, maybe a new user to test?
[19:15] <Iolo> diogenes_, no luck there :(
[19:16] <diogenes_> then it's not a config issue, maybe try to purge tumblerd and then re-install it
[19:17] <diogenes_> and reboot
[19:20] <Iolo> I purged both tumbler and tumbler-common, then reinstalled and rebooted. Still no improvement
[19:21] <diogenes_> Iolo, and after what even it stopped working? update/upgrade?
[19:23] <Iolo> I have no idea. I only noticed it by chance a few hours ago, and I haven't made any changes to the machine today.
[19:24] <diogenes_> weird
[19:28] <Iolo> very
[19:41] <Iolo> I should also probably mention that image thumbnails work fine
[20:14] <Iolo> I'm seeing some "i915 blahblah Resetting vcs0 after gpu hang" messages in the journal after I open a directory with video files in it. Does that give any clues?
[20:41] <brainwash> Iolo: maybe related to hardware video decoding
[20:41] <brainwash> tumbler uses the gstreamer backend
[20:42] <brainwash> do you have gstreamer1.0-vaapi installed?
[20:42] <Iolo> yes
[20:43] <brainwash> check if uninstalling that one makes any difference
[20:43] <brainwash> + relog
[21:29] <Iolo> brainwash, that seems to have done the trick. Unfortunate, in a sense, since I guess I no longer have hw acceleration for video
[21:29] <Iolo> Thanks either way though
[21:39] <brainwash> Iolo: depends on which video player you use
[21:39] <brainwash> parole uses the gstreamer backend also, vlc does not
[21:39] <Iolo> I use mpv
[21:40] <brainwash> not affected then
[21:40] <Iolo> nice, tyvm
[21:40] <brainwash> :)
[21:40] <Iolo> very glad to hear that
[21:41] <brainwash> well, it actually depends on how you have configured mpv
[21:41] <brainwash> it may not do hardware video decoding by default
[21:42] <brainwash> or out-of-the-box
[21:58] <Iolo> I haven't configured it at all. That'll be something to investigate later though, because I've gotta go now. Thanks again for the help