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edwardthefmaHello all00:36
nshirecan I have the ubuntu installer on a separate partition in a usb drive so I can continue to use it normally?00:37
edwardthefmaHow do I open the drivers menu on the latest very of unbuntu00:37
edwardthefmaMy install didn't recognise my WiFi card00:38
nshiretry lsmod00:38
nshirelinux doesn't really have drivers in the same way as windows. instead it has kernel modules00:39
edwardthefma Did that what next00:39
edwardthefmaI read a thing whare they said it was under system setting but I can't find it00:42
nshireis the card listed under lshw00:42
edwardthefmaYes00:45
edwardthefmaBut Ubuntu acts if its not thare00:45
edwardthefmaNshir00:48
eletiousSo I'm using debsums to find packages that are broken... a LOT of packages have missing files00:53
eletiousBut I hadn't run into issues until today, when I turned off my VM to copy the VDMK to an external HDD00:53
eletiousNow that i've done that, I can't start the VM successfully - X starts, but it fails when loading MATE due to an issue loading gnome/mate settings00:54
eletiousHas anyone run into this?  I'd really appreciate a hand here, rebuilding this VM from scratch (vagrant) takes hours and I'd lose my data00:54
cryptodan_mobileeletious: what vm software00:57
eletiousvirtualbox00:57
eletiousrunning it on both a Windows host and a Solus host, I get the same issue00:58
eletiousI'm thinking that something happened before I shutdown the VM (to copy it cleanly)00:58
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eletiousthe error I get in .xsession_errors is `mate-session[1855]: WARNING: Failed to acquire org.gnome.SessionManager01:03
white_magicDoes anyone here use 'xdg-open' or something comparable to it? I'd like to replicate windows/macosx-like ability to open some file from the terminal using the default associated app for it. But with xdg-open, it has the limitation of always opening it with a new instance of the associated app. For example, if you ran 'xdg-open world-domination.txt', it would open a NEW instance of gedit for it, even if gedit was already open wit01:04
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eletiousis there at least a way for me to stop X and MATE, and maybe start something lighter (i3 or openbox) that I can configure reliably?01:10
eletiousNot sure which processes to kill without leaving a bunch of orphans01:10
white_magicif anyone's interested i figured it out.. i won't use gedit anymore01:21
white_magicgeany ftw01:21
eletiousyeah Geany's pretty nice01:22
cryptodan_mobileeletious: does the vm boot on the host it came from01:24
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eletiouscryptodan_mobile: nope, that's why I think it's something that happened before or during shutdown01:31
cryptodan_mobileAny snapshots01:32
eletiousnope01:33
eletiousI wasn't expecting a failure like this01:33
eletiousMuch less from just shutting down the VM normally01:34
cryptodan_mobileMaybe a failed update can you reach a tty01:34
eletiousyeah.  I need to run updates, but I ran debsums to check if any packages were broken and reinstalled those01:35
eletioussince it's a vagrant VM i think a lot of files were removed to decrease box size01:35
cryptodan_mobileThat  may have been the cause01:35
eletiousThat said, nothing should be updating automatically, so I don't know why an update would cause this01:35
eletiousand I haven't run apt update/upgrade in weeks, without any issues01:36
eletiousreinstalling missing files also didn't fix the problem, so it doesn't live there...01:36
eletiouslet me finish running this group of specs, then I'll try an update01:37
eletiousJust worried that it might compound the problem (if one thing is borked, and then I change a ton of other things, what could go wrong)01:37
cryptodan_mobileeletious: create a new user from tty and login that way after reboot01:48
eletiousThat presents a new problem - the system doesn't boot into a login manager, it just goes straight into MATE.  Maybe I could edit xinitrc...01:49
cryptodan_mobileSo no login screen?01:50
eletiousno login screen.  I think the only way for me to fix this (outside of fixing the root issue) is to kill the running X on tty7, then run startx (which should run xinitrc from home rather than etc) and boot a WM from there01:51
eletiousnot boot, but *start a wm from there01:51
cryptodan_mobileAre you using mdm, gdm, lightdm, or other01:51
eletiousunfortunately, i'm not sure which X process is the parent.  How can I tell?01:51
eletiousLike I said, I've never seen the DM here, so I don't know that there is one.  Probably lightdm though01:52
eletiousactually, let me check the vagrantfile to see if there even _is_ a DM01:52
cryptodan_mobileSo run this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm"01:53
eletiousyep, it's lightdm.  Let me try it after this update is done01:54
eletiouscryptodan_mobile: no dice, on either account02:05
eletiousupdated and ran dpkg-reconfigure02:05
eletiouslet me try `dpkg-reconfigure mate-desktop`02:06
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eletiousdpkg-reconfigure mate-desktop should work right?  I get no output02:24
eletiousyeah, that didn't work either...02:27
WoCwhen i do apt or apt-get update, where does it get the arch type ? on my ppc64, it tries to fetch i386 repositories and i can't figure out where to fix it02:29
Bashing-omeletious: ' echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' ?02:29
eletiousit's blank :/02:29
Bashing-omeletious: Then I guess there is no Desktop started .02:30
crimson_kingubuntu 18.10 wants to autoremove cryptsetup and other related packages, but I rely on them for full disk encryption.02:30
eletiousright, because MATE fails on startup02:30
eletiousSo X is running, but MATE failed, and lightdm tries to autologin so I can't get into a gui to fix it02:30
eletiousit's just a blank X session where I can't do anything02:31
cryptodan_mobileEletious  Try this "sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm lightdm-settings slick-greeter"02:33
Bashing-omeletious: Not to hot on GUI troubleshooting, But, - lighten ? is it running ' systemctl status display-manager ' ?02:34
eletiousyep, status is active-running02:35
eletiousjust tried, let me reboot cryptodan_mobile02:35
eletiouscryptodan_mobile: no luck :(02:36
cryptodan_mobileOut of ideas short of a reinstall unless others have more input02:37
eletiousHow can I tell which X process is the toplevel X process?  I can kill it and all it's children, then restart X and run something else02:38
tomvolekHI not sure if this is the rigth place to ask this: I am looking for a solution to be able to remotely power on or power off hardwars running Ubunut.02:43
WoCeletious, you can also, from console using sudo do; "init 3" and then "init 5" - without the quotes02:43
Alisantahttp://l.co.ve/loveteenpusa01265302:43
eletiouswait, do the old init aliases still work?  I thought that died with sysVinit02:43
WoCyup02:43
WoCcompability for old farts like myself ;)02:44
WoCPardon my french02:44
eletiousnow I'm getting a new mate error - could not connect to session bus02:45
Alisantahttp://l.co.ve/loveteenpusa01265302:46
cryptodan_mobileMaybe time to apt-get install --reinstall mate-desktop02:46
eletiousI did a dpkg-reconfigure mate-desktop, I'll try it with apt02:48
eletiousGah!  nothing :(02:51
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eletiousi couldn't even kill Xorg with htop... what the heck03:15
ryuoeletious: that can happen if it's a zombie process or stuck in a system call.03:15
ryuoOR, it catches the signal.03:16
ryuoor lacking permissions.03:16
eletious:{03:22
eletiousI won't be able to troubleshoot this anymore tonight, unfortunately - guess i'm getting work done from tty103:22
ducasseeletious: doesn't 'systemctl stop lightdm' stop the dm and x with it?03:28
eletiousit does!  THANK YOU!03:28
ducasseyw03:29
colemickensHow do I disable gdm in 18.10?03:40
* colemickens I guess this works: sudo systemctl isolate multi-user.target03:41
DisconsentedRunning 18.04 and the subversion and mercurial packages are reported as having no installation candiate04:05
Disconsentedhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C5zcCPSKHw/04:05
DisconsentedWhat do I do here?04:05
ducasse!info subversion bionic04:10
ubottusubversion (source: subversion): Advanced version control system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.7-4ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 824 kB, installed size 4619 kB04:10
ducasseDisconsented: have you activated the universe repo?04:10
Disconsentednope04:11
ducasse'sudo add-apt-repository universe'04:11
Disconsentedthats got it cheers04:12
ducassenp04:12
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fuxxyI've disabled gdm for a dedicated xorg program. Now when I boot I get a grey box until the program loads. Is there a way to have some sort of splash scren (Or even the loading indicator) on boot?05:18
RNMdoes anyone know.. how to set delay on "Konversation" before automatic join channel? (let allow nick authentication first)05:37
krytarikRNM: https://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Configuring_SASL_authentication - then no delay is needed.05:55
RNMthx krytarik06:15
ineedhooksany support for hooks like https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#Hooks in apt?07:12
tzfrsHi guys, I'm running Ubuntu 18.04 and did some updates yesterday (through apt) and now my daisy chaining is not working anymore.07:18
tzfrsI created an askubuntu thread yesterday, but got no answers, so I'm trying it here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1090239/daisy-chaining-not-working-anymore-after-running-update07:18
ineedhooksany hooks in apt07:19
ineedhooksi need hooks07:20
mostymHey guys, i'm do a fresh install of ubuntu server 18.04.1 and when I get to the network part, I manually assign my ip however, I get this error:  216.218.189.40 is not contained in 255.255.255.0/2407:22
mostymthis is driving me insane.07:23
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untorehwhat's the current solution to updatea boot partition on vfat? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/208073/dpkg-replacing-files-on-a-fat-filesystem07:30
untorehah there is none since the bug is still open? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/157886307:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1578863 in dpkg (Ubuntu) "unable to make backup link of <some-file> before installing new version: Operation not permitted" [Undecided,Confirmed]07:32
mostymomfg. imma kill something07:35
mostymlol07:35
afx_Hello everyone ! Copying to a USB stick hangs at 99% . I am on Ubuntu 18.04 . Is there a way I can see disk usage with htop?08:42
tarzeaudoes dmesg -T say anything related?08:43
afx_tarzeau, you re referring to my question ?08:43
explosiveafx_: "df -h"  shows disk usage08:48
tarzeauafx_: yes08:48
Kyrosare you looking for something like iotop?08:55
solsTiCehi. using nodesource for nodejs, I got a 404 every time I do `apt update`. It seems for repo for node_8.x is not there anymore for cosmi/18.10. But that is a (node) LTS and still active. So why has it been dropped ?09:37
vltafx_: `vmstat 1` could help or similar tools like `dstat`09:37
unrecovered109:37
platzhirschDropbox is ending support for all filesystems but Ext4. I am on LUKS because I think that's the disk encryption which works out of the box on Ubuntu. Are there alternatives?09:37
unrecoveredhi theredoes gnome has some kind of skel?(i mean some config file where i can set up defaults for newly created users)09:37
solsTiCeplatzhirsch: I was thinking ext4 on LUKS was gonna work for dropbox past 7th of nov. Am I worng ?09:38
solsTiCes/was/will09:39
Triffid_Hunterplatzhirsch: why would dropbox care about the filesystem in the slightest? it has to go through the kernel VFS just like everything else. Also, isn't LUKS a block-layer thing upon which you add filesystems afterwards?09:39
vltplatzhirsch: Yeah, the LUKS layer shouldn't matter at all.09:39
JimBuntudrop dropbox09:40
platzhirschThen maybe I am confusing something, but it tells me my file system isn't supported anymore09:40
solsTiCeJimBuntu: what do you use ?09:40
JimBuntunextcloud, solsTiCe09:40
andywwwhi09:41
platzhirschbut yeah.... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/08/14/dropbox_encrypted_linux_support/09:41
andywwwI have a small HP microserver which i use for a nas and I’m curious about wake on lan. is there actual any benefit once the system has ‘waked’? as in, can it be configured to go into a low power/dormant mode as part of the same feature/software? Or is it literally just the same as pressing your power switch but with a network packet?09:41
platzhirschso I could use Ext4 and LUKS on top of it?09:41
JimBuntuandywww, same as pressing power. But you can configure how it winds up after all powerons09:42
vltplatzhirsch: LUKS is block layer.09:42
Triffid_Hunterandywww: basically same as poking a wakeup button on your keyboard09:42
vltplatzhirsch: Technically you can use a file stored in ext4 as a LUKS device but ...09:42
vltplatzhirsch: that's not what you're looking for.09:43
solsTiCeandywww: wake-on-lan (WOL) allow you to power up a powered-down machine. it is completly powered down. only the network card is slightly powered I guess09:43
andywwwso the process of putting the machine into a sleep mode would be managed outside of the WOL bios stuff?09:43
platzhirschvlt: what am I looking for? It sounds like that's my only choice if I want to continue using Dropbox?09:43
andywwwyou’d do that with a cron job or something?09:44
vltplatzhirsch: Do you use ext4 now?09:44
vltplatzhirsch: If yes, you don't need to change anything.09:44
solsTiCeplatzhirsch: did you read the article ? " It would be accurate to say that Dropbox will not support ecryptfs, however it will support full disk encryption."09:44
Triffid_Hunterandywww: yeah, you'd fire up suspend2 or echo mem > /sys/power/state or poweroff or whatever, then WOL can wake you back up again09:45
platzhirschtrying to figure out my file system catually09:46
vltsolsTiCe: From the article: Another response pointed out that users might not have an option about their filesystem: “I'm running LUKS [...] on top of EXT4” o_O09:46
andywwwokay great thanks for the info people09:47
platzhirschvlt: running df -Th | grep "^/dev" I see: sqashfs, ext2, vfat and ext409:47
solsTiCevlt: yeah. there is a problem there09:47
platzhirschWithout LUKS I have an easier time reading the device info but wiht the mapping I get easily confused09:48
DerSandmannDoes Ubuntu Budgie count as an official flavour?09:48
solsTiCeplatzhirsch: what device info ? how do you read tose infos ?09:49
platzhirschsolsTiCe: with df -Th | grep "^/dev"09:49
vltplatzhirsch: What about `df -Th your_dropbox_folder`?09:50
platzhirschencryptfs09:50
platzhirschah.. cryptfs is not supported, but Dropbox will continue to sync with supported file systems that are encrypted via full disk encryption (e.g. LUKS)09:50
vltThat's not ext4, right. (But neither LUKS.)09:50
platzhirschokay, that means I would need to remove the home folder encryption09:50
platzhirschand just use the disk encryption09:50
solsTiCeplatzhirsch: you could try dfc command09:51
platzhirschI forgot that I use both09:51
DerSandmannIs it a known bug with Ubuntu 18.04 where input languages don't work correctly?09:52
platzhirschremoving the home encryption will be fiddly, too09:54
DerSandmannoh man thats user unfriendly09:56
platzhirschDerSandmann: what do you mean by input language doesn't work correctly09:57
DerSandmannAh, Im sorry - It works, just very user unintuitive. I had to install the language with language and input - Then go through and manually set up ibus09:58
DerSandmannlike this entire screen does nothing09:59
DerSandmannhttps://i.imgur.com/ZHksDAy.png09:59
DerSandmannrather clean, normal install of ubuntu as well? Maybe thats to be expected10:00
solsTiCeplatzhirsch: well I don't see what confuses you in the ouput of your df command. Just try may be `df -Th | grep "^/dev"|grep -v squashfs`10:04
platzhirschsolsTiCe: no it's all good. I wasn't aware that my home directory uses a different file system10:05
platzhirschrealized I can really drop the home encryption, it doesn't make sense to have disk and home encryption10:09
platzhirschI forgot that home encryption isn't active if your screen is just locked10:09
conjohello all im getting the following during each boot and was hoping someone can explain to me what needs repair thank you for your input10:17
conjohttps://pastebin.com/Ukrh67MA10:17
srulilotus|NUC: amdgpu issue... wont boot from live-usb either https://pasteboard.co/HLTUQUA.jpg11:11
seckarmaHello guys, just jumping in to report a weird incident that happened today, on my laptop running Ubuntu 18.0411:11
seckarmayesterday night I shutdown my laptop normally, and today when I tried to turn it on, it hanged at the ubuntu logo, i waited for like 10+mins but it didnt load up. i have a SSD so it usually loads within 3 seconds.11:14
seckarmaI pressed the poweroff button and tried to turn it back on, it gave me this fsck error.. i entered the comment "fsck -y /dev/sda5"  where my linux system is installed11:15
Barabachawhat causes the "stop job is running" to happen when I turn off my PC? then there's a 10 minute timer11:16
seckarmaafter that i typed in "reboot" and the system rebooted, when it loaded, i went to the desktop and now i cant run any snap apps. how can i get logs about that? the only thing i'm seeing "if i try to run the snap apps from terminal" let's say visualcode? '/snap/vscode/64/usr/share/code/bin/code: line 35: /snap/vscode/64/usr/share/code/bin/../code: No such file or directory'11:17
seckarmasame applies on the rest of the snap apps11:17
tachikomasHello guys : when you found like a critical vuln in ubuntu and even applicable to debian, where are you suppose to disclose it ? :)11:17
seckarmalike whatsdesk, rocket.chat... i think all electron based apps stopped working just of a sudden11:18
seckarmaalso note that when i try to access /snap, and do "sudo rm -rf whatsdesk" let's say? it gives me an error saying that the directory is in read-only attribute11:19
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iosyshow can i findout if an ubuntu vm is server or desktop version?11:23
Mathiseniosys,  lsb_release -a11:24
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iosysMathisen, no that doesnt show server or desktop11:24
tachikomasiosys, because it's the "same" thing11:25
iosystachikomas, what?11:25
iosysthey are not same thing man, i want to know which is dekstio with ui stuff and one is server11:25
tachikomasiosys, your "server os", is basically the same as a desktop os without xorg and all the packages, and a little bit of custom.11:29
iosysok11:29
Mathiseniosys, he is correct you can have whatever installed on both.. they can both workm as desktop or server11:29
iosystachikomas, what you are saying is true, but doesnt answering my question11:29
tachikomasbut they are basically the same thing. I would make a script who look into dpkg and grep any de11:30
iosysok11:30
iosysi have ubuntu 18.04 server with vmware workstation pro 14, im getting this erroe libXi.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory11:30
tachikomassomething like dpkg -l | grep gnome and look at the return of the command.11:30
hateballTypically you install using the meta-packages, so you'd grep for something like dpkg --get-selections|grep ubuntu-server11:32
hateballor ubuntu-desktop11:32
hateballbut you could still install ubuntu-server metapackage and pull in all packages used by ubuntu-desktop without using that meta-package so...11:32
iosysor maybe just check for current user if it has Desktop Donwloads etc... directories11:33
tachikomashateball, thats why, i think in this case looking for Desktop Env is maybe a bit more accurate (even if you could install a DE on your "server").11:34
iosysanyone here familiar with libXi.so.6 problem?11:35
Exterminadorhello guys. where's exactly the bootloader file located, so I can remove the "nomodset" from the boot line?11:37
calimero_82hi guys11:37
calimero_82can i ask here about linux commands?11:37
tachikomasiosys, did you look if you have the lib on your system ?11:38
tachikomaswith this lib, no. But with this kind of problem... yeah.11:38
calimero_82i ve used photorec to find all files i had in a usb pen,how can i move a lot of files that are in many numered folders in specific one? thanks11:41
tachikomasmv recup_dir.*/* Dest11:41
calimero_82i want only the files not the folders11:42
calimero_82246 folders called backphoto.2 until 247, i want only the files11:44
Exterminadorfound it! :D11:44
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FuraiHave any of you ever experienced errors like: Ext4-fs error dbus-daemon: bad extra_isize12:07
Furai?12:07
afx_Hello ! Is there a email client I can use to connect to exchange accounts? I have tried Hiri and worked great , but this is not free12:15
seckarmaafx_: try mozilla thunderbird12:15
afx_seckarma, I think thunderbird does not support exchange by default. There is a plugin for this , with low ratings though12:16
sgtnastyEvolution?12:17
afx_sgtnasty, evolution-ews ? like mentioned here http://dan.bodar.com/2015/11/10/ubuntu-evolution-exchange/ ?12:18
seckarmaafx_: check this out https://askubuntu.com/a/47000012:18
afx_seckarma, "However, After a 60 day trial, it's not free to use.12:19
afx_"12:19
seckarmaafx_: sorry wrong comment, please check the comments above it12:19
afx_seckarma, you mean DavMail?12:20
seckarmaafx_: yes or even if you're not using .pst you can go for IMAP or POP312:20
afx_seckarma, have tried IMAP or POP3 with default settings though .12:21
afx_do you know of any better way to find pop3 or IMAP settings?12:21
seckarmaafx_: you mean configurations? like ports and host name etc.?12:22
afx_seckarma, yes please . Server side configuration12:23
solsTiCeI don't see the dropbox icon naymore in top bar in gnome shell. It was there some days ago. Any idea waht happened/what's wrong ?12:26
solsTiCeI still get the notification on file change12:26
seckarmaafx_: server-side? do you want or are you hosting your own email server?12:27
afx_seckarma, it is corporate email . And they are hosting their own email server12:28
afx_I am asking for any ideas on how to sniff information of that server12:28
seckarmaafx_: sniffing can only be done if you have access to that server and it actually depends on what type of emailing service they have12:29
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seckarmaafx_: aka they might be encrypting their emails using private keys, thus you can only decrypt em using those keys which supposedly they should exist on the server  by default12:30
afx_seckarma, I have access to mail through web , but can also boot into windows and run wireshark from there12:30
afx_seckarma, I see12:31
afx_I just would like to find a way to check if they are supporting pop3 or IMAP12:31
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afx_let me reboot to windows and check with outlook + wireshark from there12:34
afx_perhaps I get some info12:34
afx_I 'll report back12:34
afx_appreciate your effort12:34
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seckarmaafx_: you can simply check that by telnet-ing to the domain name along with the desired port (IMAP = 143 / 993  ||| POP3= 110 / 995 ||| SMTP 465 / 587)12:34
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nbusronehi may I know what is the different nvidia open source vs proprietary ? Currently using proprietary , but open source having newer update version .12:42
nbusroneWhich one I should install ? can I switch from proprietary to open source ?12:43
lotus|NUCnbusrone: if you have an nvidia card, its always reccomended to install the nvidia drivers12:49
lotus|NUCnbusrone: ubuntu-drivers list to see whats available for your card12:49
nbusronelotus|NUC : using nvidia card but there are open source and proprietary ? currently on proprietary.Isi t fine just isntall open source for latest update ?12:52
gpunkyou will have more perf. with the propriatary12:53
leftyfbnbusrone: the proprietary drivers are created/released by the vendor (Nvidia) while the open source drivers are from the open source community and AFAIK, were created by reverse engineering.12:53
nbusroneleftyfb : I know about it but which one do you suggest to get update ? will it crash if switch them ?12:55
lotus|NUCnbusrone: switching drivers is possible with additional drivers (software&sources)12:56
nbusroneleftyfb : The reason I wanted to update was I am having screen tearing even watching youtube.12:56
leftyfbnbusrone: I would stick with the proprietary drivers. They usually have better performance12:56
lotus|NUCnbusrone: could you tell us wich nvidia driver version you are currently using?12:57
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nbusronelotus|NUC : 381.2212:57
srulilotus|NUC: you go my last message regaarding amdgpu in live-usb?12:57
lotus|NUCsruli: yeah, so unsure why it doesnt work properly..you might wanna take a deeper look into dmesg/syslog12:59
lotus|NUCnbusrone: wich ubuntu release and card chipset please?12:59
srulilotus|NUC: i tried, not sure what to look for or understand it.. i posted my syslog and dmesg yesterday12:59
lotus|NUCsruli: i would create a bug for this13:00
lotus|NUCsruli: if a liveusb doenst like your card by default13:00
nbusronelotus|NUC : unsupported ubuntu 14.04 desktop .I search around which need to add 'ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On" but it still doesn't seem to fix any of it.13:01
lotus|NUCnbusrone: what do you mean by unsupported?13:03
nbusronelotus|NUC : Planing to install 18.04 on ssd but at lease need some time to backup.I search around , some are still facing screentearing but newer diver fix it.I though of having a newer version install.13:03
lotus|NUCnbusrone: is your system up to date?13:03
nbusronelotus|NUC : hardware updates stop releasing https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle13:04
lotus|NUCnbusrone: you still are supported till 201913:05
nbusronelotus|NUC : At the link Hardware and maintenance updates stopped at 2016 sept13:10
lotus|NUCnbusrone: that doesnt mean your card cant work properly, there is an ubuntu graphics ppa aswell if you lik13:12
nbusronelotus|NUC : I'll try and update to propriety again. You can try and search , screen tearing on ubuntu issue was all over the net.Some using different method and decades pass problem is still come and forward.13:18
nbusronelotus|NUC : will update them tomorrow after back , will let you know then.13:24
BluesKajHowdy all13:46
Sven_vB_hi :)13:52
Sven_vB_I'm trying to use a casper-rw file for persistence with xenial 16.04.3 amd64. the casper-rw is ext4 with a file "format" and folders "work", "upper", "lost+found". when I boot with that it complains something close to "/cow specified as overlayfs but no support found" and drops into initramfs. when I rename the "format" file, and make symlinks to upper/* in the top level directory, it detects accepts it as aufs instead of overlayfs. is13:55
Sven_vB_there a way to support overlayfs the same as in bionic?13:55
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Greyztarwhen nvme is rated 3GBps and if it would use sata interface,wouldnt that bottlneck at 6gbps sata limit14:52
gpunkwell as you say, the limit is 6  , and your device is at 3 ...14:53
Greyztarno device is gigabyte per sec and satat is gigabit_14:54
Greyztarbig letters equals bytes not bits no?14:55
conallHi, How would I mount an nfs share so that no matter what system it is mounted on, the files and directories are mapped to the user "foo"?15:00
tarzeauconall: by having the same user everywhere with the same user id, group id?15:01
pragmaticenigmaconall: read up on sticky bits... they would have to be set on the host directory15:01
lazerlemonhow do I bash one off15:07
rpifanlol15:07
lotuspsychjelazerlemon: only ubuntu support issues here please15:08
lazerlemonyes15:08
lazerlemonso15:08
lazerlemonin ubuntu15:08
lazerlemonI have a problem, how to open terminal15:08
lazerlemonlinux newbie here15:08
lazerlemonbut I expect everyone will go easy on me15:09
lotuspsychjelazerlemon: hold your mouse and hover over the terminal icon and left mouse click it15:09
ogamitaHi!  Where are my core files?15:09
lazerlemonwhere is the terminal icon15:09
ogamitaI have: sysctl kernel.core_pattern --> kernel.core_pattern = |/lib/systemd/systemd-coredump %P %u %g %s %t 9223372036854775808 %e15:09
ogamitaBut I can't find them.15:09
ogamitaIt says: Illegal instruction (core dumped)15:09
lazerlemoni think i found it15:10
lazerlemonnow it says settings15:11
pragmaticenigmalazerlemon: I would recommend you spend some time exploring ubuntu on your own. We're happy to answer questions, but you need to become familiar with the desktop. Since none of us here can see your desktop, we don't know what you are seeing and it is very difficult to direct you on how to find things15:13
lazerlemonok15:13
lazerlemonso I clicked some disk icon in settings15:13
lotuspsychje!manual | lazerlemon15:13
ubottulazerlemon: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/15:13
lazerlemonand then a bunch of other stuff15:13
lazerlemonnow it says 'formatting'15:14
lazerlemonso I think that means I can open terminal soon15:14
lotuspsychjelazerlemon: please dont use this channel for describing every step you do, only ubuntu questions here15:15
lazerlemonwhat is ubuntu15:16
ogamitaWhere are my core files?15:16
lazerlemonI eated those15:16
lotuspsychjelazerlemon: stop it please, your attitude will get you banned like this15:17
ogamitaAlternatively, you could concentrate on my question?15:17
lazerlemonfloppy! (labrador) get away from that shotgun! *boom* OH NOO I SHOT FLOPPED ASSHOLE OFF15:18
lotuspsychje!ops | lazerlemon bad news15:18
ubottulazerlemon bad news: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax15:18
lazerlemoni gotta to go the vets15:18
lazerlemonI shot labradors asshole off15:18
ogamitaFor 49 years, core files were stored in the current directory.  Ubuntu changed that!  where does it put them?15:18
pragmaticenigma!patience | ogamita15:19
ubottuogamita: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/15:19
ogamitaok, found. previously it didn't work, but the configuration has changed and now it does.15:22
mgedminthere are like three services in ubuntu that can be intercepting core files: systemd-coredumpd, apport, and whoopse15:25
pragmaticenigmamgedmin: ogamita already left15:26
mgedmingood for them15:27
mgedminbut now I'm wondering if whoopise and apport are cooperating somehow?15:28
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mgedminapport captures them, whoopsie uploads them?15:30
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majest1cIf I want to measure execution time, is "time ./foo" in the terminal a good way to do it? I'm on Ubuntu15:44
majest1cFor a C-program15:44
Ntemishi am at a loss and i need help, i had a degraded raid 5 that when i added a new hdd back another one kicked out and the new hdd was added as spare and from raid 5 went to raid 015:44
Ntemistrying to restore superblock on the kicked out /dev/sdb1 for almost 1h now without success15:45
Ntemisany help?15:45
tarzeaumajest1c: yes i think so. if it's not interactive?15:45
ask-ygU5AP56hello15:46
majest1ctarzeau: Well I get different system times though, for each run I get different e.g. "0,00s", "0,001s" "0,001s", "0,004s" etc15:46
ask-ygU5AP56which group to put user into in order to allow for disk mount?15:46
ask-ygU5AP56I have: disk cdrom lpadmin15:46
ask-ygU5AP56is adm also required?15:46
ask-ygU5AP56/dev/sdb1 etc show as root:disk15:46
calimero_82guys how can i copy all files from directory and subdir in a new folder? thanks15:46
pragmaticenigmamajest1c: other system activities can influence execution time. If another process is writing to the drive when your application runs, it may have to wait for resources to unlock15:47
ask-ygU5AP56(mounting in lxde, via pcmanfm, asks for another user's (in sudoers) creds)15:47
tarzeaucalimero_82: using rsync -av src/ dest/ ?15:47
ZteamNtemis, have no experience with raid myself, but I believe TestDisk can recover a Superblock, have you tried that?15:47
majest1cpragmaticenigma: So the best thing to test this is by closing all applications?15:47
pragmaticenigmamajest1c: no, there are still system level actions that will affect the time.15:48
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majest1cpragmaticenigma: Then basically "time" is a bad way to measure execution times15:49
pragmaticenigmamajest1c: when you look at stats online, they are always the average of a large number of runs15:49
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pragmaticenigmamajest1c: You have to use a scientific approach. You can't just take one measurement and call it good.15:49
majest1cpragmaticenigma: Sure I can do it a number of times then get an average, but if the average includes time spent on something else than executing my code then that number will be worthless15:50
Zteamcalimero_82, cp -R /home/user/files /home/user/target/15:50
calimero_82tarzeau, the input folder is called backphoto the output is called nuovo3 so rsync -av backphoto/ nuovo3/ ?15:51
pragmaticenigmamajest1c: This is no longer a support question and moving towards discussion. To summarize, there is no perfect way to measure a programs execution time.15:51
majest1cpragmaticenigma: Thanks!15:51
calimero_82Zteam, there are 24000 files in subdirectories in backphoto15:52
Zteamcalimero_82, cp should do the job, but rsync might suit your needs better :-)15:53
Ntemisno15:53
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pragmaticenigmacalimero_82: I would also recommend rsync... it will also alow you to restart the copy without having to start from the beginning or deal with file already exists errors15:54
ZteamNtemis, then you should try it, it's avaiable from the repos, (unviverise I belive)15:54
Ntemistrying15:55
Ntemisinstalled now what?15:55
pawsjust did a fresh install of ubuntu 18.04 and it just sitting there at [ OK ] Reached target Cloud-init target.15:56
pawsis this normal?15:56
gpunkno15:56
pragmaticenigmapaws: Did you install a cloud instance ?15:56
pawsi dont think so15:56
ZteamNtemis, just run sudo testdisk from a terminal, and follow it's instruction15:56
pawsim gonna reinstall this15:56
Zteam:-)15:56
gpunkpaws: make sure you use the right image15:57
Ntemisall am seeing is MS Data  235823 15628331310 1562809548816:00
Ntemisand goes on16:00
calimero_82it works, thanks guys16:02
calimero_82no it has copied also directories and subdir,... how can i resolve?16:05
NtemisFound Superblock backups stored on blocks: 32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736, 1605632, 2654208, 4096000, 7962624, 11239424, 20480000, 23887872, 71663616, 78675968, 102400000, 21499084816:09
Ntemisbut i cant restore any of them16:09
pragmaticenigmacalimero_82: based on your original question, that is expected. you asked how to copy all files in a directory and subdirectory16:10
calimero_82no all files in a directory without copy folders and subfolders16:11
pragmaticenigmayou want to capture and copy only files, into a new directory? effectively flattening the directory structure to a single folder containing on the files from the source file tree?16:13
pragmaticenigmacalimero_82: you want to capture and copy only files, into a new directory? effectively flattening the directory structure to a single folder containing on the files from the source file tree? (sorry for the repeat)16:13
calimero_82pragmaticenigma, i have a directory called photoback, in this folder there are 247 folders with a lot of files: i want copy only all files in a new folder called nuovo3 without copy folders and subfolders16:16
NoruxHi everybody16:16
NoruxI have a problem: my live usb gets stuck in the booting screen. Version 18.04.1, 64 bit16:17
NoruxHow can I fix that16:18
mgedminhow long have you waited?16:18
Noruxlike 10 minutes16:18
mgedminouch16:18
mgedmindo you see any text if you hit Esc?16:18
rpifansad16:18
OerHeks!nomodeset16:18
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter16:18
pragmaticenigmacalimero_82: use everything inside the quotes "find /path/to/src -type f -exec cp {} /path/to/dst \;"16:19
Noruxmgedmin: no. OerHeks: will try that thanks16:19
eia1xIs there a way to download ever *.file (of especific extension) whose belongs a web page? I already tried wget -A, but without suceed...16:21
pragmaticenigmaeia1x: take a look at "man wget" what you are seeking is documented near the end in the examples16:22
eia1xpragmaticenigma: Okk, I'll see... :)16:22
explosivecalimero_82: pragmaticenigma: actually that would copy files in the sub dirs16:24
pragmaticenigmaexplosive: what are you referring to?16:24
explosivecalimero_82: just make it "find /path/to/src -type f -maxdepth 1 -exec cp {} /path/to/dst \; "16:24
pragmaticenigmaexplosive: if you don't think someone's recommendation is correct, seek validation from the requester to make sure you have it interpreted correctly as well16:25
explosivepragmaticenigma: yeah if you reread his what do you get16:26
explosivenevermind, you're right16:27
NoruxOerHeks: I get a huge trace when booting with nomodeset16:27
explosivepragmaticenigma: um, i dunno what to think here the back log looks like he didnt actually want the subdirs at all16:28
NoruxCan anybody else help me on the booting problem?16:29
explosivepragmaticenigma: ok, seems that's what he wanted, nevermind then :)16:30
pragmaticenigmaexplosive: it's hard to know for sure, I take most question in the literal, which is why the first solution didn't work out. I didn't know about the depth feature, that's pretty handy16:31
ZteamNtemis, if nothing else works you can try to rescue your files with photorec, or some other recovery utilites16:32
Ntemisnah is an 8tb of data16:32
Ntemislost everything as it seems16:33
mgedminRAID-5 cannot survive two failed disks :/16:34
calimero_82explosive, without -maxdepth 1, i want also the files in the subfloders16:34
calimero_82it's working16:34
ZteamNtemis, well, there are other data recovery softwares to try, but I'm not sure they is able to help you16:35
pawsE: Unable to locate package phpmyadmin <-- why cant my 18.04 find phpmyadmin package?16:36
pawsnever mind16:37
pawssudo add-apt-repository universe16:37
pawsthat fixed it16:37
explosiveNtemis: what happens when you try to mount it? testdisk lets you view the files btw if you press "p"16:37
ZteamNtemis, also, remember that TestDisk only suggests alternative superblocks, you have to try them yourself (I believe)16:40
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calimero_82pragmaticenigma, it doesn t copy all files16:45
NoruxI think the reason is a corrupted iso file (-_-)16:46
pragmaticenigmacalimero_82: what files is it missing?16:47
calimero_82pragmaticenigma, 984 files16:48
calimero_82ive done propriety for backphoto and nuovo1, miss 984 files in nuovo116:49
pragmaticenigmacalimero_82: what are the properties of the "files" are you sure they're files and not links?16:50
calimero_82pragmaticenigma, i don t know, are 123242 files16:52
calimero_82i click on the folder backphoto,propriety and i see 123242 files16:54
explosivecalimero_82: what does "find /path/to/src -type f | wc -l" give?16:55
pragmaticenigmacalimero_82: we've provided you with, to the best of our ability, you have requested. It would appear that you need to do some research to figure out what didn't get transferred and determine the difference from what did and did not get copied. The command I offered will only copy files... not directories and not linked files. Also, the properties of the source are going to count folders as items.16:55
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explosivecalimero_82: you might want to also use "du -sh /path/to/src" "du -sh /path/to/dst" and compare sizes16:57
calimero_82wait guys, i dont understand, what should i do?16:57
explosivecalimero_82: try running the du commands above, it'll give you a fair idea if it's actually missing any data or just dirs and whatnot16:58
calimero_82src means? input directory?16:59
explosiveyes16:59
calimero_82ok i try, i repeat the command cause i 've deleted nuovo1 and do this du17:00
cosmo-techHi, i have the same issue as https://askubuntu.com/questions/1063813/not-able-to-open-desktop-icons-folders-but-able-to-open-files17:13
cosmo-techdo you know how to solve this ?17:13
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Johnny689hello, I have a question. I search a wlan usb stick, where I can change the mac address and that's supports linux or/and windows. (With much range/power - 2,4 ghz/5 ghz) Have somebody a Tipp?17:40
gpunkyou can change the mac address on every supported device by linux17:41
Johnny689gpunk: But not in Windows17:41
gpunkin windows too17:41
dlammy laptop fan keeps turning on/off repeatedly after i did a BIOS update,  anyone know how to debug it?17:41
OerHeksnetworkmanager gives that option, to set mac addr, and more17:42
Johnny689gpunk: with this stick I have tried to change the mac in windows. And it doesnt work -> https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B007K871ES/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=117:46
gpunkyou donno how to do it17:47
Johnny689gpunk: I have tried it with the regular way in windows. (Settings) and with the reg edit way. Both doesn't works for me17:50
gpunkJohnny689: then it s a bug with the driver, and 2) this not a windows support channel17:50
OerHeksjust setup a new profile in networkmanager, and fiddle around17:51
pagioshi,    pointopoint (Gateway IP) <-- in /etc/network/interface what does ppointtopoint mean?17:53
ioriapagios, are you using Aranym ?18:03
calimero_82i've resolved, thanks guys18:15
ChinnoDogI recently upgraded from Bionic to Cosmic where it migrated my lxd to the snap based version. Thereafter the networking in containers from linuxcontainers.org doesn't work anymore. Networking still works in the Ubuntu images from the included remotes. Anyone seen this before?18:27
ChinnoDogclarification: Images from the "ubuntu" remote work. Images from the "images" remote do not.18:28
se-sm-cais it possible to tell the preseed to not install or configure grub?18:32
tmwarrenhey.18:45
tmwarren1000's of ppl on this server, and no one talks18:45
tmwarrenwhat gives?? ? ? ? ????????18:45
Mathisentmwarren, not a social channel it is a suport channel. try #chat18:46
Mathisensry ##chat18:47
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tmwarrenThanks18:51
dlammy laptop fan keeps turning on/off repeatedly after i did a BIOS update,  anyone know how to debug it?qc18:51
dlamoops18:51
dlam(i suck at weechat)18:51
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mox-I'm having some issues building an ISO that boots on the network to reach a Kickstart file to do an unattended installation. It is working great with RHEL/CentOS but with Ubuntu I keep getting "ipconfig: no devices to configure" when the ISO boots. I searched google I can see examples of PXE installations but no bootable ISO installation with a Kickstart. Anyone have an idea what's going on or a reference document for me? Thanks19:01
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cyberspectreHey everyone. I have a dir full of files that are named like so: ####-##B# (4 numbers, dash, 4 characters alphanumeric). Is there a regex command in bash I can use to rename the files by switching the two 4-character strings?19:13
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EriC^^cyberspectre: you could always use bash to do it, just saying19:16
cyberspectreEriC^^, that's what I'm asking to do19:18
EriC^^cyberspectre: i mean like this     find /dir | while IFS='' read -r i; do filename=$(basename "$i"); firstpart=${filename:0:4}; secondpart=${filename: -4}; mv "$filename" "${secondpart}-${firstpart}"; done19:21
EriC^^cyberspectre: if you decide to use it, try putting 'echo mv' first and see how it goes before using it19:23
cyberspectreEriC^^, like this? https://pastebin.com/3HULVkBb19:26
EriC^^cyberspectre: yup19:26
cyberspectreEriC^^, thanks. Here's what it's doing19:30
cyberspectremv 2081-iodi.jpg .jpg-208119:30
cyberspectrehow can I account for the extension19:30
nmrhcyberspectre: for another option google "=~ BASH_REMATCH"19:31
EriC^^cyberspectre: are they all the same .jpg extension?19:32
cyberspectreEriC^^, yes19:32
kur1jAre krb5.keytab files considered private?19:32
se-sm-cayea19:33
EriC^^cyberspectre: find /dir | while IFS='' read -r i; do filename=$(basename "$i"); firstpart=${filename:0:4}; secondpart=${filename:5:4}; echo mv "$filename" "${secondpart}-${firstpart}.jpg"; done19:33
cyberspectrehm19:36
cyberspectrethe files aren't showing up19:36
cyberspectreis it moving them to the home dir19:36
cyberspectreI dunno where it's putting them because the files aren't changing19:36
EriC^^try to run it in the dir itself19:37
EriC^^cd /dir , then run the find /dir command19:37
cyberspectreEriC^^, nope19:38
EriC^^did you remove the echo?19:38
cyberspectrethe output reads correctly but it doesn't happen19:38
cyberspectreOH I see why you put the echo19:38
NoruxHey guys I have a problem. I installed Ubuntu 18.04.1 on my laptop. But when booting, I get "no bootable device found" from the bios19:38
EriC^^yeah19:38
NoruxEric^^ can surely help with that?19:39
EriC^^Norux: i shall try :D19:39
NoruxOnce again :D19:39
EriC^^Norux: did you set the right booting method in the BIOS? uefi csm legacy etc?19:39
NoruxTried uefi and legacy. Secure boot is off19:39
cyberspectreEriC^^, now it returns "invalid option -- 'z'"19:39
EriC^^which mode did you install in?19:39
NoruxUefi19:40
EriC^^cyberspectre: hmm sounds like there's some file that's wrong, im guessing maybe its parsing the first dir in find19:40
EriC^^hmm use this19:41
ntdTJ: ping19:41
EriC^^cyberspectre: find /dir -type f | while IFS='' read -r i; do filename=$(basename "$i"); firstpart=${filename:0:4}; secondpart=${filename:5:4}; echo mv "$filename" "${secondpart}-${firstpart}.jpg"; done19:41
cyberspectreEriC^^, https://pastebin.com/eLNpQb8Y19:41
cyberspectrethe dir is /mnt/s/x119:42
EriC^^cyberspectre: that way it should only give the files and no dirs19:42
EriC^^Norux: can you boot a live usb?19:42
NoruxYes.19:42
ntdthere is a bug in cryptsetup on bionic server media19:42
EriC^^Norux: ok please do19:42
Norux_EriC^^: ok it's up19:43
EriC^^cyberspectre: try find /mnt/s/x1 -type f -iname '*.jpg' | while IFS='' read -r i; do filename=$(basename "$i"); firstpart=${filename:0:4}; secondpart=${filename:5:4}; echo mv "$filename" "${secondpart}-${firstpart}.jpg"; done19:43
EriC^^hmm but it was saying invalid option "z" , so it must be parsing mv -z somehow19:45
cyberspectreEriC^^, I think it was coming from the folder name. It was /mnt/s/zzz but I changed it to /mnt/s/x1 to test19:46
EriC^^oh ok that makes sense19:46
glaucomhi all... how fix themes on cyanomon ?19:46
cyberspectreit's weird because19:46
cyberspectremv: cannot stat '2151-ast2.jpg': No such file or directory19:46
glaucomUploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/c86764bb6ca221840a4d13b8a5fd2159/image.png19:46
glaucomborders19:46
cyberspectreit's listing all the filenames that are correct but it's saying it can't find them19:46
EriC^^cyberspectre: did you cd into the dir?19:47
cyberspectreEriC^^, aaaah there we go19:47
EriC^^:D19:47
cyberspectreEriC^^, want to help me even more than you already have?19:47
EriC^^cyberspectre: sure, go ahead19:48
EriC^^Norux_: can you pastebin "sudo efibootmgr -v" ?19:48
Norux_EriC^^: http://termbin.com/xocp19:49
EriC^^Norux_: looks about right19:49
EriC^^Norux_: are you sure you used "-v" ?19:50
Norux_EriC^^: woops, that was /v, keyboard configured american style. Here you go: http://termbin.com/qshg19:50
loppydoopyWhat's a good way to get my laptop to hibernate on low battery percentage instead of shutting down?19:51
loppydoopyI'm on 18.04.1 if it matters19:51
cyberspectreEriC^^, I need to perform the same operation on a bunch of files. All of them use the same ####-##A# format but have different extensions and different prepend strings. But all prepend strings end in _. For example: BCS_3421-A2CD.pdf19:51
EriC^^cyberspectre: are the prepend strings different than 3 letters sometimes?19:52
cyberspectreEriC^^, yes19:53
cyberspectreso are the extensions19:53
Norux_EriC^^: some information you might find useful: There was a Mac system on this SSD before, and I just put it in my laptop as an upgrade. I did create a new partition table.19:53
EriC^^Norux_: aha, can you pastebin "sudo blkid" ?19:53
EriC^^just wanna make sure everything is actually pointing to the right stuff before we try switching the uefi files and whatnot to trick the bios19:54
Norux_EriC^^: http://termbin.com/nwk219:54
courrierI'm having a random issue of touchpad stopping responding smoothly on Dell XPS13 with 18.0419:55
courrierWhen it happens, it's always fixed after rebooting, so it seems a software issue.19:55
courrierExample video: Compare my motion on the touchpad versus the pointer on-screen: https://tinyurl.com/dell-touchpad-issue19:55
courrierCould it be an Ubuntu issue or firmware-related? Dell already changed my touchpad a couple of months ago, without change.19:55
EriC^^cyberspectre: i could possibly do it, but it is gonna be ugly, i'd rather you join #bash and ask they'll get you sorted rather quickly and neatly19:55
cyberspectreEriC^^, I will. Thank you19:56
cyberspectreI didn't know there was a #bash19:56
cyberspectrethere are only 4-5 different types so I could easily use the script you gave me19:56
EriC^^they're pretty decent guys there, they'll probably have a nice way to do it19:57
EriC^^Norux_: oh, the partuuid it's pointing to isn't right19:58
EriC^^Norux_: it's the one starting with 105...., so the 0000 entry in the list19:59
EriC^^Norux_: try changing the boot order so it's first, sudo efibootmgr -o 0000,2001,0002,2002,200319:59
EriC^^Norux_: also since we have the live usb booted, try to mount the efi partition, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt, and see if the file is there, ls -lR /mnt/efi | nc termbin.com 999920:00
Norux_EriC^^: http://termbin.com/y23p seems like there are files20:01
EriC^^yup looks good20:02
kur1jwhy is setting up kerberos and NFS so miserable?20:02
Norux_EriC^^: so reboot?20:02
EriC^^Norux_: yeah go for it20:02
Norux_EriC^^: nope still the same issue20:03
EriC^^Norux_: hmm is there a uefi list in the bios you can sort?20:03
Norux_EriC^^: you mean a boot order?20:03
loppydoopyhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TMyxTymqmh/20:03
loppydoopyI think that is my issue?20:03
EriC^^Norux_: yeah but for uefi20:03
Norux_EriC^^: I mean there is a "Boot priority order" under Boot.20:04
EriC^^Norux_: does it mention ubuntu?20:04
loppydoopyhow do I get the upower daemon to respect what is in the default upower.conf?20:05
Norux_EriC^^: yeah on last place is "EFI File Boot 0: ubuntu"20:05
EriC^^nice!20:05
EriC^^put it at the top20:05
EriC^^are there 2 ubuntu's?20:05
Norux_EriC^^: no, and putting on top seemingly doesn't do anything20:06
EriC^^hmm20:06
eletiousI'm still having issues with lightdm and MATE - starting MATE from lightdm (which starts MATE automatically because Vagrant) throws an issue with reading org.gnome.SessionManager20:06
EriC^^i guess we'll try switching the files Norux_ , boot the live usb up again20:06
Norux_EriC^^: okay one second20:07
eletiousI'm able to kill lightdm, and start mate with .xinitrc and startx, but would like to find out why MATE fails to start20:07
Norux_EriC^^: okay it's up now20:08
EriC^^Norux_: ok, type 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt'20:09
EriC^^Norux_: then 'sudo mkdir -p /mnt/efi/microsoft/boot && cp /mnt/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi'20:11
Norux_EriC^^: the folder is /mnt/EFI not /mnt/efi20:11
EriC^^same thing, fat32 doesn't have case sensitivity20:12
Norux_EriC^^: oh okay.20:12
EriC^^it's for the lazy god bless it :D20:12
Norux_do you mean sudo cp?20:13
EriC^^Norux_: yes20:13
Norux_Okay good20:13
EriC^^Norux_: ok before you restart, please pastebin sudo efibootmgr -v one more time to get an idea if it saved stuff earlier20:14
EriC^^which laptop or desktop motherboard is this?20:14
Norux_EriC^^: http://termbin.com/7q9420:15
Norux_EriC^^: still the good old Acer Aspire ES1120:15
EriC^^aha20:15
EriC^^it didn't really save our changes earlier20:15
Norux_hmm20:15
EriC^^it seems it's happy with the ubuntu 0002 entry at the top, except the file its pointing to doesnt exist anymore20:15
EriC^^anyways try restarting to see if tricking the bios will boot it20:16
Norux_EriC^^: nope20:16
EriC^^Norux_: ok, in the bios, make ubuntu a lower entry, and make the windows entry higher priority20:17
Norux_EriC^^: there is no windows entry20:17
EriC^^ah actually the windows one is also pointing to the non existent disk20:17
EriC^^what's in the list?20:17
Norux_EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7Msw7C6ZvR/20:19
EriC^^Norux_: hmm i have an idea20:20
EriC^^Norux_: boot the live usb and type "sudo gdisk /dev/sda" then press "x" to go to expert mode, then "c" to change partuuid20:20
EriC^^select the first partition, then change it to "6cdc8363-2e26-494d-b522-960f38da0ae6"20:21
kur1jI'm following these instructions...https://serverfault.com/questions/837223/unable-to-mount-kerberized-nfs every time I mount I get "rpc.gssd[3963]: ERROR: No credentials found for connection to server"20:22
Norux_EriC^^: okay done20:25
EriC^^Norux_: press "w" to write it and exit20:26
Norux_EriC^^: then reboot?20:26
EriC^^yes20:26
Norux_EriC^^: you may guess what happens...20:27
EriC^^sounds like it didnt work20:27
EriC^^though i'd have put money on it working :D20:27
Norux_Hopefully there was no typo20:28
ioriaiirc, acer efi is uniqe, you need to add the uefi file (grubx64.efi) in bios - set supervisory password  and set it "trust" or similar20:28
EriC^^Norux_: have you set the admin password in the bios? it gives extra options for uefi20:29
Norux_EriC^^: yes I have set a supervisor password20:29
EriC^^Norux_: do you have another hdd attached that's usb?20:30
Norux_EriC^^: no, just the live usb20:30
ioriaand disable secureboot20:30
Norux_ioria: I did20:30
EriC^^are you positive uefi is enabled and csm legacy is disabled?20:30
Norux_EriC^^: Boot mode is on UEFI and Secure Boot is Disabled.20:30
EriC^^Norux_: ok, try booting the live usb again, pastebin 'sudo parted -l'20:31
EriC^^maybe it expects somehow that HFS128G32TND-N210A hdd20:31
EriC^^we'll try to chroot and reinstall grub and see what happens20:32
Norux_EriC^^: that one is my ssd i think20:32
Norux_EriC^^: I tried boot-repair by yannbuntu20:32
Norux_EriC^^: oh btw, is there a short command to set the keyboard locale to german?20:32
Norux_http://termbin.com/1niw20:33
ioria50 mb ?20:34
EriC^^seems to have the hdd right, odd20:35
ioriasounds small20:35
EriC^^let's try to chroot and reinstall grub, sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt20:35
EriC^^for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done20:36
EriC^^sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi20:36
Norux_EriC^^: sorry, what's up with the chroot?20:36
EriC^^to reinstall grub20:37
blackflowI wouldn't bind in /run it's wrong (doesn't represent services running in chroot)20:37
Norux_EriC^^: but that's after the commands you told me right?20:38
blackflowalso, use -R and you don't need to list dev/pts separately (And you're missing shm anyway)20:38
EriC^^i usually bind it so the networking still works20:38
blackflowwhy woulnd' it work without /run?20:38
iorianetwork20:38
SchnabeltierchenIs there a way to show which entry of /lib/udev/hwdb.d/60-sensor.hwdb is used?20:39
EriC^^well you'd need to copy over the file, forgot it's name20:39
Norux_EriC^^: so I've entered the commands you gave me (except the chroot one?)20:40
blackflowwhat for exactly? are you talking about _controlling_ network with netplan/networkd?20:40
blackflowbecause if you don't need that, network is in the kernel, not in /run20:40
EriC^^Norux_: yes, type sudo chroot /mnt20:40
Norux_EriC^^: ok20:40
EriC^^blackflow: no i mean /run/resolvconf20:40
LigHHi20:41
EriC^^Norux_: type 'grub-install'20:41
Norux_EriC^^: cannot find EFI directory20:42
blackflowEriC^^: not sure you need that. at best you might need to copy over /etc/resolv.conf20:42
EriC^^Norux_: did you run mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi?20:43
blackflow(because binding /run could have negative effect, it represents state outside of the chroot)20:43
EriC^^blackflow: tbh i remember once not binding /run once, cause somebody advised not to, but apt for some reason wouldn't work without binding it20:44
Norux_EriC^^: oh now it works. No error reported.20:44
EriC^^it's as far as i remember not sure what the deal was exactly20:44
EriC^^so i resorted back to binding /run whenever i chroot20:44
LigHHow can I make cmake recogonize and prefer GCC 8.2 over GCC 7.3 while configuring a project, after installing gcc-8 and g++-8 in Ubuntu MATE 18.04.1 LTS?20:44
EriC^^Norux_: ok, type 'update-grub'20:45
blackflowEriC^^: I've been installing ubuntu exclusively via chroots and debootstrap, never neded to bind /run :)  I really think you just mean /etc/resolve.conf20:45
blackflow*resolv.conf20:45
EriC^^no afair apt wouldn't work20:45
Norux_EriC^^: done20:45
EriC^^i'd resort back to not binding, always like to improve, i'll see what happens i guess20:46
EriC^^thanks20:46
EriC^^Norux_: ok what does 'efibootmgr -v' give now?20:47
Norux_EriC^^: outside of chroot?20:47
EriC^^doesnt matter really20:47
blackflowEriC^^: anyway, you're also missing /dev/shm20:47
EriC^^what's that for if you dont mind me asking?20:47
blackflowI just bind -R entire /dev20:47
Norux_EriC^^: 0000,2001,2002,200320:47
blackflowEriC^^: tmpfs and friends for example20:48
Norux_I'll pastebin it20:48
blackflowand some services require it for their IPC20:48
EriC^^so you do "for i in /dev /sys /proc; do sudo mount -R $i /mnt$i; done"  ?20:48
Norux_EriC^^: http://termbin.com/41sk20:48
blackflowEriC^^: technically I just bind dev and sys, and moount proc directly:   mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc20:49
blackflowbut yeah I guess you can bind /proc too20:49
EriC^^aha20:49
EriC^^Norux_: looks like ubuntu is first in the list now20:51
EriC^^Norux_: try to reboot and see how it goes20:51
ioriayes, but with shim20:51
SchnabeltierchenSomeone know how to configure an entry in /lib/udev/hwdb.d/60-sensor-locale.hwdb?20:51
Norux_EriC^^: same thing20:51
ash_worksiwhat is "7.3.0" in "7.3.0-16ubuntu3" ?20:51
ash_worksiand what's the trailing 3?20:51
blackflowash_worksi: upstream version;  ubuntu-specific package revision20:52
ash_worksiso the upstream version is completely different from the (whatever version 18.04 is called) version?20:53
EriC^^Norux_: try turning secure boot on20:53
LigHash_worksi: "7.3.0" looks like the generic GNU compiler version?20:54
Norux_EriC^^: no difference20:54
ioriaNorux_, i guess you need to work on your special bios settings (and why your efi part is just 50mb ?)20:54
LigHHow can I make cmake recogonize and prefer GCC 8.2 over GCC 7.3 while configuring a project, after installing gcc-8 and g++-8 in Ubuntu MATE 18.04.1 LTS?20:54
Norux_ioria: I set that manually - in the installer it said minimum was 35 MB so I thought 50 were alright20:55
EriC^^Norux_: do you have a one-time boot menu you can access?20:55
ioriaok, at your risk20:55
Norux_EriC^^: what do you mean by that?20:55
Norux_ioria: how much do you recommend?20:55
ioria50020:55
EriC^^Norux_: try pressing F12 when the pc first starts20:55
LigHOr ESC20:56
LigHOr DEL20:56
EriC^^Norux_: ^ or F920:56
Norux_:D20:56
EriC^^it's a boot options menu that lets you choose a boot option to boot just that one time20:56
Norux_So F2 opens the usual boot options, F12 opens the one you mean20:56
LigHF12 may let you select the device to boot from20:57
EriC^^ok is there an ubuntu there?20:57
Norux_EriC^^: yes20:57
EriC^^try pressing it20:57
Norux_doesn't work20:57
Norux_the same error message20:58
EriC^^hmm20:58
yateswhat is the name of the add-users gui program? i want to start it from the command line20:58
EriC^^Norux_: are there other entries in it?20:58
yatesi am not physically in front of the computer20:58
Norux_EriC^^: no, I disconnected the live usb20:59
EriC^^Norux_: is there the HDD one?20:59
Norux_EriC^^: only ubuntu20:59
EriC^^Norux_: hmm20:59
ioriayou need to explicitly set the 'efi file '  (grubx64.efi) not the distro20:59
EriC^^i guess it is finding the file, cause in any case we changed the partuuid21:00
yates?21:00
EriC^^i think maybe if we use grubx64.efi instead of shimx64.efi it might work21:00
EriC^^i have a hunch21:00
yatesis it "users-admin"?21:00
EriC^^Norux_: boot the live usb again21:00
LigHyates: Probaly "users-admin"21:01
yatesLigH: hmm, i get a hourglass inthe gui ... forever..21:01
LigHWell, I have MATE. But their channel is dead.21:02
Norux_EriC^^: okay done21:02
yatesyes, this is mate too.21:02
LigHCan you start the "mate-control-center"?21:03
EriC^^Norux_: let's just try switching the files real quick as it's easier that way we know it's for sure booting it21:03
EriC^^Norux_: type 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt'21:03
yatesLigH: yes21:03
yatesbut when i click Users and Groups, i get the same window with the infinite hourglass...21:04
LigHAnd then "users-admin" when it runs?21:04
LigHAha.21:04
LigHSo maybe something in your user configuration in general is fishy.21:05
EriC^^Norux_: then sudo cp /mnt/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi.backup21:05
yatesLigH: is it acceptable to run users-admin as root?21:06
yatesthat's what i am doing.21:06
Norux_EriC^^: okay did that21:06
yatesor anyone?21:06
LigHShould be sufficient to sudo it, if you are a sudoer.21:07
yatesbut it should run as root, right?21:07
EriC^^Norux_: then "sudo cp /mnt/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /mnt/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi"21:07
yatesi can run the other applets in mat-control-center21:07
LigHOf course the root user should be able to manage users... but if the user configutation files are messed up, the app may not be able to interpret it correctly.21:08
Norux_EriC^^: okay21:08
LigHI have no clue how to analyze and fix user control files.21:09
EriC^^Norux_: also let's try adding our own custom uefi entry in case it actually needs the name right and we can try ioria's suggestion as well21:09
EriC^^Norux_: sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\grubx64.efi -L "grubx64.efi" -p 1 -d /dev/sda21:10
Norux_EriC^^: okay I added that one.21:11
EriC^^Norux_: ok, try restarting and see what happens21:11
Norux_EriC^^: is it too late now to change the efi partition size?21:11
EriC^^it's not that important tbh21:11
EriC^^50mb is ok21:11
Norux_EriC^^: ok21:11
Norux_EriC^^: still not working21:11
EriC^^Norux_: ok, try pressing f12 and see what you get there21:12
Norux_still only one entry, ubuntu21:13
EriC^^what happens if you try booting it?21:13
Norux_EriC^^: the error message comes up21:14
EriC^^are there any options you can tweak for the uefi?21:15
Norux_What do you mean by that?21:16
EriC^^like 'trust' an entry or something similar21:16
EriC^^or browse for efi file etc21:16
EriC^^in the bios options for uefi booting21:16
Norux_EriC^^: oh yeah! Select an UEFI file as trusted for executing21:16
EriC^^nice21:17
Norux_EriC^^: so I can select HDD0 there21:19
Norux_EriC^^: do I select EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi there?21:22
EriC^^yeah21:22
zaggynlhiho, I'm managing to break ext4 quickly: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TMsyS8YmP4/ , smartctl check comes back with no issues, did I find a bug in ext4?21:23
Norux_"Boot Description"?21:23
EriC^^say ubuntu21:24
EriC^^or grub21:24
Norux_EriC^^: IT WORKS21:25
EriC^^great!21:25
Norux_wow21:27
Norux_I didn't expect to fix it today to be honest21:27
EriC^^i was kinda losing hope a little as well :P21:27
Norux_EriC^^: thanks so much for your help, *again*!21:28
EriC^^Norux_: no problem :)21:28
Norux_EriC^^: haven't had a single ubuntu installation without booting issues so far21:29
Norux_and you fixed every single one of them!21:29
EriC^^:) uefi is fun that's for sure :D21:30
Sven_vBis guestfs stable nowadays? the forum thread where I found the recommedation for guestfs noted some workarounds for bionic.21:35
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Sven_vBare there other good options to mount an ext4 partition image in userland?21:36
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blackflowSven_vB: loop mount?21:39
Sven_vBblackflow, how do I do that as a regular user?21:39
kur1jcan someone explain keytabs to me and which boxes *actually* need them and which ones need the *same* keys in the keytab files?21:39
blackflowSven_vB: man mount, /THE LOOP DEVICE<enter>21:39
blackflowSven_vB: though I'm not sure about regular user, it creates a loop /dev(ice)21:40
Sven_vBblackflow, mount: only root can do that21:42
Sven_vBfor mount casper-rw ./mnt -t ext4 -o loop=/dev/loop21:42
Sven_vBas root I wouldn't even need the loop= part or -t21:43
blackflowSven_vB: do you have root/sudo there at all?21:43
Sven_vBblackflow, I could, but I'd prefer to find a way to run that program with low privileges.21:44
Schnabeltierchenif i got a problem with a device in /lib/udev/hwdb.d/60-sensor.hwdb where i can ask for help? any ideas?21:44
blackflowSven_vB: I was gonna suggest you whip up a simple wrapper script and give it passwordless sudo capability21:44
blackflowI honestly don't know of a way to mount an image like that without root. even the nbd/qemu trickery requires root methinks21:45
blackflowunless of course you go the route of usermount21:45
blackflow(or fuse even)21:45
AngelKdeSchnabeltierchen,  what vers . of ubuntu ?21:45
Sven_vBblackflow, yeah I'd like the fuse route, that's why I asked about guestfs. :D21:46
blackflowit's slow tho'21:46
SchnabeltierchenAngelKde 18.0421:46
Sven_vBblackflow, if it's too slow for me I can still mess with sudo.21:46
blackflowif I were you I'd go the route of a sudo wrapper21:46
LigHHow can I make cmake recogonize and prefer GCC 8.2 over GCC 7.3 while configuring a project, after installing gcc-8 and g++-8 in Ubuntu MATE 18.04.1 LTS?21:47
Sven_vBblackflow, ok. thanks for the suggestion. :)21:48
AngelKdeSchnabeltierchen,  try this https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/hwdb/60-sensor.hwdb21:50
blackflowSven_vB: there's also udisks and gvfs and ability to give your user a polkit policy to use them, but I don't know if they work with loop mounts21:51
SchnabeltierchenAngelKde i´ve looked into the new file, there are enties for my Lenovo miix 320 but they dont match the build in sensor nor the product name...22:01
AngelKdetry reboot Schnabeltierchen22:02
Schnabeltiercheni did, after systemd-hwdb update22:03
Schnabeltierchenthe file mentions the *BOSC0200* and the SM08840 sensor for beeing used, but it´s the KIOX000A*22:04
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AngelKdesystemd--usr and after try systemd-hwdb update22:05
Schnabeltierchenfor the modelname they state pn80XF and pnLenovoMIIX320 but its PN80SG (i´m very sure)22:05
Schnabeltierchen"systemd--usr" ?22:06
AngelKdeSchnabeltierchen,  you have the bios update ?22:08
Schnabeltierchenyep22:09
Schnabeltierchen"sudo dmidecode | grep Produc" gives me "Product Name: 80SG | Product Name: Cavalli", the 60-sensor.hwdb states 80XF and LenovoMIIX320, so the accel-matrix can´t get recognized, right?22:13
AngelKdeSchnabeltierchen, try this is my ultimete solucion XD https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/410826/change-iio-sensors-data-via-custom-accel-mount-matrix22:18
Schnabeltiercheni´ve tried this already :)22:18
Schnabeltierchenthis tutorial made me check the dmicodes and stuff :)22:19
ScuniziIs there a way to update the package manager to accept google's repository name change from Google, Inc to Google LLC? Update is failing on a chrome update.22:20
OerHeksScunizi, yes, open terminal ctrl T : sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade # and hit y on the question for change Google LLC22:21
OerHeksi have noticed this 30 min ago too22:22
OerHeksthey don't mention LLC on https://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ .. ugly22:23
ScuniziOerHeks: thanks.. my sys isn't presenting an option to approve the change..22:23
ScuniziOerHeks: even with the # at the end of the line....22:24
Aisonhello, I installed openjdk 11 on bionic22:53
Aisonbut java --version gives me OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 10.0.2+13-Ubuntu-1ubuntu0.18.04.3)22:54
Aisonwhy version 10 and not 11?22:54
leftyfbAison: sudo update-alternatives --config java22:55
OerHeksas openjdk 11 was not released in april '18, and will be backported, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1037646/why-is-openjdk-10-packaged-as-openjdk-1122:56
AisonOerHeks, oh, thx...22:56
Aisonbut in the meantime openjdk 11 is released, not?22:57
OerHeksyes, answer #11 gives the download, but i would wait for the update 11.0.122:58
OerHeks18.10 already got it, i read?22:58
Aisonyes22:59
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ph88how can i find out the repository of an installed package from cli ?23:20
ph88oh apt policy23:22
Richard_CavellIs there any type of graphical tool (Ubuntu 16.04) for backing up to external hard disk?23:30
blackswandd isn't graphical enough?23:33
* blackswan ducks23:33
OerHeksor the standard backuptool deja-vu ..23:34
OerHeksor the filemanager :-D23:35
OerHeksrsync && grsync gui23:35
* OerHeks whales23:36
Richard_CavellOerHeks, File manager doesn't copy hidden files23:38
OerHekssure it does, ctrl +h to unhide them23:40
Richard_CavellOerHeks, oh okay I didn't know that23:42
OerHekshave fun :-)23:42
Richard_Cavellgrsync is pretty good.  Should I just put / for source and /dev/sdb for destination?  (Obviously I want rsync to skip copying /dev/sdb to itself)23:44
OerHeksyes, but skip some folders you don't want , https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/104743/entries-i-can-safely-exclude-doing-backups23:46
OerHeks /dev/random/  and such23:46
Richard_CavellActually let me explain my backup needs.  I have a computer with Ubuntu 16.04 installed on the hard disk.  This computer can't boot from an external USB drive but it will boot from optical drive (from a Live DVD).  64 gigs of my internal hard disk are being used.  I have an external hard disk.  What's the best way of backing up so that I can use a live DVD to restore from that external hard disk?23:48
kflorfWould some one be able to help me route my network traffic through a VPN please?23:52
leftyfbRichard_Cavell: just copy the files where you need to23:52
leftyfbRichard_Cavell: use rsync or cp or file manager23:52
Richard_Cavellleftyfb, so rsync from internal hard disk to an external one (formatted as ext4) and then rsync back using a live DVD if necessary?23:53
leftyfbRichard_Cavell: sure23:54
leftyfbRichard_Cavell: only worry about copying stuff from your /home. Anything more than that, copy if you want, but only use as reference23:54
Richard_CavellIf I rsync the entire thing though it should be able to restore completely, right?23:54

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