[00:36] <edwardthefma> Hello all
[00:37] <nshire> can I have the ubuntu installer on a separate partition in a usb drive so I can continue to use it normally?
[00:37] <edwardthefma> How do I open the drivers menu on the latest very of unbuntu
[00:38] <edwardthefma> My install didn't recognise my WiFi card
[00:38] <nshire> try lsmod
[00:39] <nshire> linux doesn't really have drivers in the same way as windows. instead it has kernel modules
[00:39] <edwardthefma>  Did that what next
[00:42] <edwardthefma> I read a thing whare they said it was under system setting but I can't find it
[00:42] <nshire> is the card listed under lshw
[00:45] <edwardthefma> Yes
[00:45] <edwardthefma> But Ubuntu acts if its not thare
[00:48] <edwardthefma> Nshir
[00:53] <eletious> So I'm using debsums to find packages that are broken... a LOT of packages have missing files
[00:53] <eletious> But I hadn't run into issues until today, when I turned off my VM to copy the VDMK to an external HDD
[00:54] <eletious> Now that i've done that, I can't start the VM successfully - X starts, but it fails when loading MATE due to an issue loading gnome/mate settings
[00:54] <eletious> Has anyone run into this?  I'd really appreciate a hand here, rebuilding this VM from scratch (vagrant) takes hours and I'd lose my data
[00:57] <cryptodan_mobile> eletious: what vm software
[00:57] <eletious> virtualbox
[00:58] <eletious> running it on both a Windows host and a Solus host, I get the same issue
[00:58] <eletious> I'm thinking that something happened before I shutdown the VM (to copy it cleanly)
[01:03] <eletious> the error I get in .xsession_errors is `mate-session[1855]: WARNING: Failed to acquire org.gnome.SessionManager
[01:04] <white_magic> Does anyone here use 'xdg-open' or something comparable to it? I'd like to replicate windows/macosx-like ability to open some file from the terminal using the default associated app for it. But with xdg-open, it has the limitation of always opening it with a new instance of the associated app. For example, if you ran 'xdg-open world-domination.txt', it would open a NEW instance of gedit for it, even if gedit was already open wit
[01:10] <eletious> is there at least a way for me to stop X and MATE, and maybe start something lighter (i3 or openbox) that I can configure reliably?
[01:10] <eletious> Not sure which processes to kill without leaving a bunch of orphans
[01:21] <white_magic> if anyone's interested i figured it out.. i won't use gedit anymore
[01:21] <white_magic> geany ftw
[01:22] <eletious> yeah Geany's pretty nice
[01:24] <cryptodan_mobile> eletious: does the vm boot on the host it came from
[01:31] <eletious> cryptodan_mobile: nope, that's why I think it's something that happened before or during shutdown
[01:32] <cryptodan_mobile> Any snapshots
[01:33] <eletious> nope
[01:33] <eletious> I wasn't expecting a failure like this
[01:34] <eletious> Much less from just shutting down the VM normally
[01:34] <cryptodan_mobile> Maybe a failed update can you reach a tty
[01:35] <eletious> yeah.  I need to run updates, but I ran debsums to check if any packages were broken and reinstalled those
[01:35] <eletious> since it's a vagrant VM i think a lot of files were removed to decrease box size
[01:35] <cryptodan_mobile> That  may have been the cause
[01:35] <eletious> That said, nothing should be updating automatically, so I don't know why an update would cause this
[01:36] <eletious> and I haven't run apt update/upgrade in weeks, without any issues
[01:36] <eletious> reinstalling missing files also didn't fix the problem, so it doesn't live there...
[01:37] <eletious> let me finish running this group of specs, then I'll try an update
[01:37] <eletious> Just worried that it might compound the problem (if one thing is borked, and then I change a ton of other things, what could go wrong)
[01:48] <cryptodan_mobile> eletious: create a new user from tty and login that way after reboot
[01:49] <eletious> That presents a new problem - the system doesn't boot into a login manager, it just goes straight into MATE.  Maybe I could edit xinitrc...
[01:50] <cryptodan_mobile> So no login screen?
[01:51] <eletious> no login screen.  I think the only way for me to fix this (outside of fixing the root issue) is to kill the running X on tty7, then run startx (which should run xinitrc from home rather than etc) and boot a WM from there
[01:51] <eletious> not boot, but *start a wm from there
[01:51] <cryptodan_mobile> Are you using mdm, gdm, lightdm, or other
[01:51] <eletious> unfortunately, i'm not sure which X process is the parent.  How can I tell?
[01:52] <eletious> Like I said, I've never seen the DM here, so I don't know that there is one.  Probably lightdm though
[01:52] <eletious> actually, let me check the vagrantfile to see if there even _is_ a DM
[01:53] <cryptodan_mobile> So run this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm"
[01:54] <eletious> yep, it's lightdm.  Let me try it after this update is done
[02:05] <eletious> cryptodan_mobile: no dice, on either account
[02:05] <eletious> updated and ran dpkg-reconfigure
[02:06] <eletious> let me try `dpkg-reconfigure mate-desktop`
[02:24] <eletious> dpkg-reconfigure mate-desktop should work right?  I get no output
[02:27] <eletious> yeah, that didn't work either...
[02:29] <WoC> when i do apt or apt-get update, where does it get the arch type ? on my ppc64, it tries to fetch i386 repositories and i can't figure out where to fix it
[02:29] <Bashing-om> eletious: ' echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ' ?
[02:29] <eletious> it's blank :/
[02:30] <Bashing-om> eletious: Then I guess there is no Desktop started .
[02:30] <crimson_king> ubuntu 18.10 wants to autoremove cryptsetup and other related packages, but I rely on them for full disk encryption.
[02:30] <eletious> right, because MATE fails on startup
[02:30] <eletious> So X is running, but MATE failed, and lightdm tries to autologin so I can't get into a gui to fix it
[02:31] <eletious> it's just a blank X session where I can't do anything
[02:33] <cryptodan_mobile> Eletious  Try this "sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm lightdm-settings slick-greeter"
[02:34] <Bashing-om> eletious: Not to hot on GUI troubleshooting, But, - lighten ? is it running ' systemctl status display-manager ' ?
[02:35] <eletious> yep, status is active-running
[02:35] <eletious> just tried, let me reboot cryptodan_mobile
[02:36] <eletious> cryptodan_mobile: no luck :(
[02:37] <cryptodan_mobile> Out of ideas short of a reinstall unless others have more input
[02:38] <eletious> How can I tell which X process is the toplevel X process?  I can kill it and all it's children, then restart X and run something else
[02:43] <tomvolek> HI not sure if this is the rigth place to ask this: I am looking for a solution to be able to remotely power on or power off hardwars running Ubunut.
[02:43] <WoC> eletious, you can also, from console using sudo do; "init 3" and then "init 5" - without the quotes
[02:43] <Alisanta> http://l.co.ve/loveteenpusa012653
[02:43] <eletious> wait, do the old init aliases still work?  I thought that died with sysVinit
[02:43] <WoC> yup
[02:44] <WoC> compability for old farts like myself ;)
[02:44] <WoC> Pardon my french
[02:45] <eletious> now I'm getting a new mate error - could not connect to session bus
[02:46] <Alisanta> http://l.co.ve/loveteenpusa012653
[02:46] <cryptodan_mobile> Maybe time to apt-get install --reinstall mate-desktop
[02:48] <eletious> I did a dpkg-reconfigure mate-desktop, I'll try it with apt
[02:51] <eletious> Gah!  nothing :(
[03:15] <eletious> i couldn't even kill Xorg with htop... what the heck
[03:15] <ryuo> eletious: that can happen if it's a zombie process or stuck in a system call.
[03:16] <ryuo> OR, it catches the signal.
[03:16] <ryuo> or lacking permissions.
[03:22] <eletious> :{
[03:22] <eletious> I won't be able to troubleshoot this anymore tonight, unfortunately - guess i'm getting work done from tty1
[03:28] <ducasse> eletious: doesn't 'systemctl stop lightdm' stop the dm and x with it?
[03:28] <eletious> it does!  THANK YOU!
[03:29] <ducasse> yw
[03:40] <colemickens> How do I disable gdm in 18.10?
[03:41]  * colemickens I guess this works: sudo systemctl isolate multi-user.target
[04:05] <Disconsented> Running 18.04 and the subversion and mercurial packages are reported as having no installation candiate
[04:05] <Disconsented> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C5zcCPSKHw/
[04:05] <Disconsented> What do I do here?
[04:10] <ducasse> !info subversion bionic
[04:10] <ducasse> Disconsented: have you activated the universe repo?
[04:11] <Disconsented> nope
[04:11] <ducasse> 'sudo add-apt-repository universe'
[04:12] <Disconsented> thats got it cheers
[04:12] <ducasse> np
[05:18] <fuxxy> I've disabled gdm for a dedicated xorg program. Now when I boot I get a grey box until the program loads. Is there a way to have some sort of splash scren (Or even the loading indicator) on boot?
[05:37] <RNM> does anyone know.. how to set delay on "Konversation" before automatic join channel? (let allow nick authentication first)
[05:55] <krytarik> RNM: https://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/Configuring_SASL_authentication - then no delay is needed.
[06:15] <RNM> thx krytarik
[07:12] <ineedhooks> any support for hooks like https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#Hooks in apt?
[07:18] <tzfrs> Hi guys, I'm running Ubuntu 18.04 and did some updates yesterday (through apt) and now my daisy chaining is not working anymore.
[07:18] <tzfrs> I created an askubuntu thread yesterday, but got no answers, so I'm trying it here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1090239/daisy-chaining-not-working-anymore-after-running-update
[07:19] <ineedhooks> any hooks in apt
[07:20] <ineedhooks> i need hooks
[07:22] <mostym> Hey guys, i'm do a fresh install of ubuntu server 18.04.1 and when I get to the network part, I manually assign my ip however, I get this error:  216.218.189.40 is not contained in 255.255.255.0/24
[07:23] <mostym> this is driving me insane.
[07:30] <untoreh> what's the current solution to updatea boot partition on vfat? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/208073/dpkg-replacing-files-on-a-fat-filesystem
[07:32] <untoreh> ah there is none since the bug is still open? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/1578863
[07:35] <mostym> omfg. imma kill something
[07:35] <mostym> lol
[08:42] <afx_> Hello everyone ! Copying to a USB stick hangs at 99% . I am on Ubuntu 18.04 . Is there a way I can see disk usage with htop?
[08:43] <tarzeau> does dmesg -T say anything related?
[08:43] <afx_> tarzeau, you re referring to my question ?
[08:48] <explosive> afx_: "df -h"  shows disk usage
[08:48] <tarzeau> afx_: yes
[08:55] <Kyros> are you looking for something like iotop?
[09:37] <solsTiCe> hi. using nodesource for nodejs, I got a 404 every time I do `apt update`. It seems for repo for node_8.x is not there anymore for cosmi/18.10. But that is a (node) LTS and still active. So why has it been dropped ?
[09:37] <vlt> afx_: `vmstat 1` could help or similar tools like `dstat`
[09:37] <unrecovered> 1
[09:37] <platzhirsch> Dropbox is ending support for all filesystems but Ext4. I am on LUKS because I think that's the disk encryption which works out of the box on Ubuntu. Are there alternatives?
[09:37] <unrecovered> hi theredoes gnome has some kind of skel?(i mean some config file where i can set up defaults for newly created users)
[09:38] <solsTiCe> platzhirsch: I was thinking ext4 on LUKS was gonna work for dropbox past 7th of nov. Am I worng ?
[09:39] <solsTiCe> s/was/will
[09:39] <Triffid_Hunter> platzhirsch: why would dropbox care about the filesystem in the slightest? it has to go through the kernel VFS just like everything else. Also, isn't LUKS a block-layer thing upon which you add filesystems afterwards?
[09:39] <vlt> platzhirsch: Yeah, the LUKS layer shouldn't matter at all.
[09:40] <JimBuntu> drop dropbox
[09:40] <platzhirsch> Then maybe I am confusing something, but it tells me my file system isn't supported anymore
[09:40] <solsTiCe> JimBuntu: what do you use ?
[09:40] <JimBuntu> nextcloud, solsTiCe
[09:41] <andywww> hi
[09:41] <platzhirsch> but yeah.... https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/08/14/dropbox_encrypted_linux_support/
[09:41] <andywww> I have a small HP microserver which i use for a nas and I’m curious about wake on lan. is there actual any benefit once the system has ‘waked’? as in, can it be configured to go into a low power/dormant mode as part of the same feature/software? Or is it literally just the same as pressing your power switch but with a network packet?
[09:41] <platzhirsch> so I could use Ext4 and LUKS on top of it?
[09:42] <JimBuntu> andywww, same as pressing power. But you can configure how it winds up after all powerons
[09:42] <vlt> platzhirsch: LUKS is block layer.
[09:42] <Triffid_Hunter> andywww: basically same as poking a wakeup button on your keyboard
[09:42] <vlt> platzhirsch: Technically you can use a file stored in ext4 as a LUKS device but ...
[09:43] <vlt> platzhirsch: that's not what you're looking for.
[09:43] <solsTiCe> andywww: wake-on-lan (WOL) allow you to power up a powered-down machine. it is completly powered down. only the network card is slightly powered I guess
[09:43] <andywww> so the process of putting the machine into a sleep mode would be managed outside of the WOL bios stuff?
[09:43] <platzhirsch> vlt: what am I looking for? It sounds like that's my only choice if I want to continue using Dropbox?
[09:44] <andywww> you’d do that with a cron job or something?
[09:44] <vlt> platzhirsch: Do you use ext4 now?
[09:44] <vlt> platzhirsch: If yes, you don't need to change anything.
[09:44] <solsTiCe> platzhirsch: did you read the article ? " It would be accurate to say that Dropbox will not support ecryptfs, however it will support full disk encryption."
[09:45] <Triffid_Hunter> andywww: yeah, you'd fire up suspend2 or echo mem > /sys/power/state or poweroff or whatever, then WOL can wake you back up again
[09:46] <platzhirsch> trying to figure out my file system catually
[09:46] <vlt> solsTiCe: From the article: Another response pointed out that users might not have an option about their filesystem: “I'm running LUKS [...] on top of EXT4” o_O
[09:47] <andywww> okay great thanks for the info people
[09:47] <platzhirsch> vlt: running df -Th | grep "^/dev" I see: sqashfs, ext2, vfat and ext4
[09:47] <solsTiCe> vlt: yeah. there is a problem there
[09:48] <platzhirsch> Without LUKS I have an easier time reading the device info but wiht the mapping I get easily confused
[09:48] <DerSandmann> Does Ubuntu Budgie count as an official flavour?
[09:49] <solsTiCe> platzhirsch: what device info ? how do you read tose infos ?
[09:49] <platzhirsch> solsTiCe: with df -Th | grep "^/dev"
[09:50] <vlt> platzhirsch: What about `df -Th your_dropbox_folder`?
[09:50] <platzhirsch> encryptfs
[09:50] <platzhirsch> ah.. cryptfs is not supported, but Dropbox will continue to sync with supported file systems that are encrypted via full disk encryption (e.g. LUKS)
[09:50] <vlt> That's not ext4, right. (But neither LUKS.)
[09:50] <platzhirsch> okay, that means I would need to remove the home folder encryption
[09:50] <platzhirsch> and just use the disk encryption
[09:51] <solsTiCe> platzhirsch: you could try dfc command
[09:51] <platzhirsch> I forgot that I use both
[09:52] <DerSandmann> Is it a known bug with Ubuntu 18.04 where input languages don't work correctly?
[09:54] <platzhirsch> removing the home encryption will be fiddly, too
[09:56] <DerSandmann> oh man thats user unfriendly
[09:57] <platzhirsch> DerSandmann: what do you mean by input language doesn't work correctly
[09:58] <DerSandmann> Ah, Im sorry - It works, just very user unintuitive. I had to install the language with language and input - Then go through and manually set up ibus
[09:59] <DerSandmann> like this entire screen does nothing
[09:59] <DerSandmann> https://i.imgur.com/ZHksDAy.png
[10:00] <DerSandmann> rather clean, normal install of ubuntu as well? Maybe thats to be expected
[10:04] <solsTiCe> platzhirsch: well I don't see what confuses you in the ouput of your df command. Just try may be `df -Th | grep "^/dev"|grep -v squashfs`
[10:05] <platzhirsch> solsTiCe: no it's all good. I wasn't aware that my home directory uses a different file system
[10:09] <platzhirsch> realized I can really drop the home encryption, it doesn't make sense to have disk and home encryption
[10:09] <platzhirsch> I forgot that home encryption isn't active if your screen is just locked
[10:17] <conjo> hello all im getting the following during each boot and was hoping someone can explain to me what needs repair thank you for your input
[10:17] <conjo> https://pastebin.com/Ukrh67MA
[11:11] <sruli> lotus|NUC: amdgpu issue... wont boot from live-usb either https://pasteboard.co/HLTUQUA.jpg
[11:11] <seckarma> Hello guys, just jumping in to report a weird incident that happened today, on my laptop running Ubuntu 18.04
[11:14] <seckarma> yesterday night I shutdown my laptop normally, and today when I tried to turn it on, it hanged at the ubuntu logo, i waited for like 10+mins but it didnt load up. i have a SSD so it usually loads within 3 seconds.
[11:15] <seckarma> I pressed the poweroff button and tried to turn it back on, it gave me this fsck error.. i entered the comment "fsck -y /dev/sda5"  where my linux system is installed
[11:16] <Barabacha> what causes the "stop job is running" to happen when I turn off my PC? then there's a 10 minute timer
[11:17] <seckarma> after that i typed in "reboot" and the system rebooted, when it loaded, i went to the desktop and now i cant run any snap apps. how can i get logs about that? the only thing i'm seeing "if i try to run the snap apps from terminal" let's say visualcode? '/snap/vscode/64/usr/share/code/bin/code: line 35: /snap/vscode/64/usr/share/code/bin/../code: No such file or directory'
[11:17] <seckarma> same applies on the rest of the snap apps
[11:17] <tachikomas> Hello guys : when you found like a critical vuln in ubuntu and even applicable to debian, where are you suppose to disclose it ? :)
[11:18] <seckarma> like whatsdesk, rocket.chat... i think all electron based apps stopped working just of a sudden
[11:19] <seckarma> also note that when i try to access /snap, and do "sudo rm -rf whatsdesk" let's say? it gives me an error saying that the directory is in read-only attribute
[11:23] <iosys> how can i findout if an ubuntu vm is server or desktop version?
[11:24] <Mathisen> iosys,  lsb_release -a
[11:24] <iosys> Mathisen, no that doesnt show server or desktop
[11:25] <tachikomas> iosys, because it's the "same" thing
[11:25] <iosys> tachikomas, what?
[11:25] <iosys> they are not same thing man, i want to know which is dekstio with ui stuff and one is server
[11:29] <tachikomas> iosys, your "server os", is basically the same as a desktop os without xorg and all the packages, and a little bit of custom.
[11:29] <iosys> ok
[11:29] <Mathisen> iosys, he is correct you can have whatever installed on both.. they can both workm as desktop or server
[11:29] <iosys> tachikomas, what you are saying is true, but doesnt answering my question
[11:30] <tachikomas> but they are basically the same thing. I would make a script who look into dpkg and grep any de
[11:30] <iosys> ok
[11:30] <iosys> i have ubuntu 18.04 server with vmware workstation pro 14, im getting this erroe libXi.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:30] <tachikomas> something like dpkg -l | grep gnome and look at the return of the command.
[11:32] <hateball> Typically you install using the meta-packages, so you'd grep for something like dpkg --get-selections|grep ubuntu-server
[11:32] <hateball> or ubuntu-desktop
[11:32] <hateball> but you could still install ubuntu-server metapackage and pull in all packages used by ubuntu-desktop without using that meta-package so...
[11:33] <iosys> or maybe just check for current user if it has Desktop Donwloads etc... directories
[11:34] <tachikomas> hateball, thats why, i think in this case looking for Desktop Env is maybe a bit more accurate (even if you could install a DE on your "server").
[11:35] <iosys> anyone here familiar with libXi.so.6 problem?
[11:37] <Exterminador> hello guys. where's exactly the bootloader file located, so I can remove the "nomodset" from the boot line?
[11:37] <calimero_82> hi guys
[11:37] <calimero_82> can i ask here about linux commands?
[11:38] <tachikomas> iosys, did you look if you have the lib on your system ?
[11:38] <tachikomas> with this lib, no. But with this kind of problem... yeah.
[11:41] <calimero_82> i ve used photorec to find all files i had in a usb pen,how can i move a lot of files that are in many numered folders in specific one? thanks
[11:41] <tachikomas> mv recup_dir.*/* Dest
[11:42] <calimero_82> i want only the files not the folders
[11:44] <calimero_82> 246 folders called backphoto.2 until 247, i want only the files
[11:44] <Exterminador> found it! :D
[11:54] <Analima> http://pussy17.6g6.eu
[11:54] <leftyfb> !ops | Analima
[11:56] <Analima> http://pussy17.6g6.eu
[11:57] <coconut> Analima: this channel is not for ads, please stop this.
[12:07] <Furai> Have any of you ever experienced errors like: Ext4-fs error dbus-daemon: bad extra_isize
[12:07] <Furai> ?
[12:15] <afx_> Hello ! Is there a email client I can use to connect to exchange accounts? I have tried Hiri and worked great , but this is not free
[12:15] <seckarma> afx_: try mozilla thunderbird
[12:16] <afx_> seckarma, I think thunderbird does not support exchange by default. There is a plugin for this , with low ratings though
[12:17] <sgtnasty> Evolution?
[12:18] <afx_> sgtnasty, evolution-ews ? like mentioned here http://dan.bodar.com/2015/11/10/ubuntu-evolution-exchange/ ?
[12:18] <seckarma> afx_: check this out https://askubuntu.com/a/470000
[12:19] <afx_> seckarma, "However, After a 60 day trial, it's not free to use.
[12:19] <afx_> "
[12:19] <seckarma> afx_: sorry wrong comment, please check the comments above it
[12:20] <afx_> seckarma, you mean DavMail?
[12:20] <seckarma> afx_: yes or even if you're not using .pst you can go for IMAP or POP3
[12:21] <afx_> seckarma, have tried IMAP or POP3 with default settings though .
[12:21] <afx_> do you know of any better way to find pop3 or IMAP settings?
[12:22] <seckarma> afx_: you mean configurations? like ports and host name etc.?
[12:23] <afx_> seckarma, yes please . Server side configuration
[12:26] <solsTiCe> I don't see the dropbox icon naymore in top bar in gnome shell. It was there some days ago. Any idea waht happened/what's wrong ?
[12:26] <solsTiCe> I still get the notification on file change
[12:27] <seckarma> afx_: server-side? do you want or are you hosting your own email server?
[12:28] <afx_> seckarma, it is corporate email . And they are hosting their own email server
[12:28] <afx_> I am asking for any ideas on how to sniff information of that server
[12:29] <seckarma> afx_: sniffing can only be done if you have access to that server and it actually depends on what type of emailing service they have
[12:30] <BitFranklin> http://bitmoney.6g6.eu
[12:30] <seckarma> afx_: aka they might be encrypting their emails using private keys, thus you can only decrypt em using those keys which supposedly they should exist on the server  by default
[12:30] <afx_> seckarma, I have access to mail through web , but can also boot into windows and run wireshark from there
[12:31] <afx_> seckarma, I see
[12:31] <afx_> I just would like to find a way to check if they are supporting pop3 or IMAP
[12:32] <BitFranklin> http://bitmoney.6g6.eu
[12:34] <afx_> let me reboot to windows and check with outlook + wireshark from there
[12:34] <afx_> perhaps I get some info
[12:34] <afx_> I 'll report back
[12:34] <afx_> appreciate your effort
[12:34] <coconut> BitFranklin: this channel is not for ads, please stop this.
[12:34] <seckarma> afx_: you can simply check that by telnet-ing to the domain name along with the desired port (IMAP = 143 / 993  ||| POP3= 110 / 995 ||| SMTP 465 / 587)
[12:35] <BitFranklin> http://bitmoney.6g6.eu
[12:35] <coconut> !spam
[12:35] <lotus|NUC> !ops | BitFranklin
[12:39] <BitFranklin> http://bitmoney.6g6.eu
[12:42] <nbusrone> hi may I know what is the different nvidia open source vs proprietary ? Currently using proprietary , but open source having newer update version .
[12:43] <nbusrone> Which one I should install ? can I switch from proprietary to open source ?
[12:49] <lotus|NUC> nbusrone: if you have an nvidia card, its always reccomended to install the nvidia drivers
[12:49] <lotus|NUC> nbusrone: ubuntu-drivers list to see whats available for your card
[12:52] <nbusrone> lotus|NUC : using nvidia card but there are open source and proprietary ? currently on proprietary.Isi t fine just isntall open source for latest update ?
[12:53] <gpunk> you will have more perf. with the propriatary
[12:53] <leftyfb> nbusrone: the proprietary drivers are created/released by the vendor (Nvidia) while the open source drivers are from the open source community and AFAIK, were created by reverse engineering.
[12:55] <nbusrone> leftyfb : I know about it but which one do you suggest to get update ? will it crash if switch them ?
[12:56] <lotus|NUC> nbusrone: switching drivers is possible with additional drivers (software&sources)
[12:56] <nbusrone> leftyfb : The reason I wanted to update was I am having screen tearing even watching youtube.
[12:56] <leftyfb> nbusrone: I would stick with the proprietary drivers. They usually have better performance
[12:57] <lotus|NUC> nbusrone: could you tell us wich nvidia driver version you are currently using?
[12:57] <nbusrone> lotus|NUC : 381.22
[12:57] <sruli> lotus|NUC: you go my last message regaarding amdgpu in live-usb?
[12:59] <lotus|NUC> sruli: yeah, so unsure why it doesnt work properly..you might wanna take a deeper look into dmesg/syslog
[12:59] <lotus|NUC> nbusrone: wich ubuntu release and card chipset please?
[12:59] <sruli> lotus|NUC: i tried, not sure what to look for or understand it.. i posted my syslog and dmesg yesterday
[13:00] <lotus|NUC> sruli: i would create a bug for this
[13:00] <lotus|NUC> sruli: if a liveusb doenst like your card by default
[13:01] <nbusrone> lotus|NUC : unsupported ubuntu 14.04 desktop .I search around which need to add 'ForceFullCompositionPipeline = On" but it still doesn't seem to fix any of it.
[13:03] <lotus|NUC> nbusrone: what do you mean by unsupported?
[13:03] <nbusrone> lotus|NUC : Planing to install 18.04 on ssd but at lease need some time to backup.I search around , some are still facing screentearing but newer diver fix it.I though of having a newer version install.
[13:03] <lotus|NUC> nbusrone: is your system up to date?
[13:04] <nbusrone> lotus|NUC : hardware updates stop releasing https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle
[13:05] <lotus|NUC> nbusrone: you still are supported till 2019
[13:10] <nbusrone> lotus|NUC : At the link Hardware and maintenance updates stopped at 2016 sept
[13:12] <lotus|NUC> nbusrone: that doesnt mean your card cant work properly, there is an ubuntu graphics ppa aswell if you lik
[13:18] <nbusrone> lotus|NUC : I'll try and update to propriety again. You can try and search , screen tearing on ubuntu issue was all over the net.Some using different method and decades pass problem is still come and forward.
[13:24] <nbusrone> lotus|NUC : will update them tomorrow after back , will let you know then.
[13:46] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:52] <Sven_vB_> hi :)
[13:55] <Sven_vB_> I'm trying to use a casper-rw file for persistence with xenial 16.04.3 amd64. the casper-rw is ext4 with a file "format" and folders "work", "upper", "lost+found". when I boot with that it complains something close to "/cow specified as overlayfs but no support found" and drops into initramfs. when I rename the "format" file, and make symlinks to upper/* in the top level directory, it detects accepts it as aufs instead of overlayfs. is
[13:55] <Sven_vB_> there a way to support overlayfs the same as in bionic?
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[14:52] <Greyztar> when nvme is rated 3GBps and if it would use sata interface,wouldnt that bottlneck at 6gbps sata limit
[14:53] <gpunk> well as you say, the limit is 6  , and your device is at 3 ...
[14:54] <Greyztar> no device is gigabyte per sec and satat is gigabit_
[14:55] <Greyztar> big letters equals bytes not bits no?
[15:00] <conall> Hi, How would I mount an nfs share so that no matter what system it is mounted on, the files and directories are mapped to the user "foo"?
[15:01] <tarzeau> conall: by having the same user everywhere with the same user id, group id?
[15:01] <pragmaticenigma> conall: read up on sticky bits... they would have to be set on the host directory
[15:07] <lazerlemon> how do I bash one off
[15:07] <rpifan> lol
[15:08] <lotuspsychje> lazerlemon: only ubuntu support issues here please
[15:08] <lazerlemon> yes
[15:08] <lazerlemon> so
[15:08] <lazerlemon> in ubuntu
[15:08] <lazerlemon> I have a problem, how to open terminal
[15:08] <lazerlemon> linux newbie here
[15:09] <lazerlemon> but I expect everyone will go easy on me
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> lazerlemon: hold your mouse and hover over the terminal icon and left mouse click it
[15:09] <ogamita> Hi!  Where are my core files?
[15:09] <lazerlemon> where is the terminal icon
[15:09] <ogamita> I have: sysctl kernel.core_pattern --> kernel.core_pattern = |/lib/systemd/systemd-coredump %P %u %g %s %t 9223372036854775808 %e
[15:09] <ogamita> But I can't find them.
[15:09] <ogamita> It says: Illegal instruction (core dumped)
[15:10] <lazerlemon> i think i found it
[15:11] <lazerlemon> now it says settings
[15:13] <pragmaticenigma> lazerlemon: I would recommend you spend some time exploring ubuntu on your own. We're happy to answer questions, but you need to become familiar with the desktop. Since none of us here can see your desktop, we don't know what you are seeing and it is very difficult to direct you on how to find things
[15:13] <lazerlemon> ok
[15:13] <lazerlemon> so I clicked some disk icon in settings
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> !manual | lazerlemon
[15:13] <lazerlemon> and then a bunch of other stuff
[15:14] <lazerlemon> now it says 'formatting'
[15:14] <lazerlemon> so I think that means I can open terminal soon
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> lazerlemon: please dont use this channel for describing every step you do, only ubuntu questions here
[15:16] <lazerlemon> what is ubuntu
[15:16] <ogamita> Where are my core files?
[15:16] <lazerlemon> I eated those
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> lazerlemon: stop it please, your attitude will get you banned like this
[15:17] <ogamita> Alternatively, you could concentrate on my question?
[15:18] <lazerlemon> floppy! (labrador) get away from that shotgun! *boom* OH NOO I SHOT FLOPPED ASSHOLE OFF
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> !ops | lazerlemon bad news
[15:18] <lazerlemon> i gotta to go the vets
[15:18] <lazerlemon> I shot labradors asshole off
[15:18] <ogamita> For 49 years, core files were stored in the current directory.  Ubuntu changed that!  where does it put them?
[15:19] <pragmaticenigma> !patience | ogamita
[15:22] <ogamita> ok, found. previously it didn't work, but the configuration has changed and now it does.
[15:25] <mgedmin> there are like three services in ubuntu that can be intercepting core files: systemd-coredumpd, apport, and whoopse
[15:26] <pragmaticenigma> mgedmin: ogamita already left
[15:27] <mgedmin> good for them
[15:28] <mgedmin> but now I'm wondering if whoopise and apport are cooperating somehow?
[15:30] <mgedmin> apport captures them, whoopsie uploads them?
[15:44] <majest1c> If I want to measure execution time, is "time ./foo" in the terminal a good way to do it? I'm on Ubuntu
[15:44] <majest1c> For a C-program
[15:44] <Ntemis> hi am at a loss and i need help, i had a degraded raid 5 that when i added a new hdd back another one kicked out and the new hdd was added as spare and from raid 5 went to raid 0
[15:45] <Ntemis> trying to restore superblock on the kicked out /dev/sdb1 for almost 1h now without success
[15:45] <Ntemis> any help?
[15:45] <tarzeau> majest1c: yes i think so. if it's not interactive?
[15:46] <ask-ygU5AP56> hello
[15:46] <majest1c> tarzeau: Well I get different system times though, for each run I get different e.g. "0,00s", "0,001s" "0,001s", "0,004s" etc
[15:46] <ask-ygU5AP56> which group to put user into in order to allow for disk mount?
[15:46] <ask-ygU5AP56> I have: disk cdrom lpadmin
[15:46] <ask-ygU5AP56> is adm also required?
[15:46] <ask-ygU5AP56> /dev/sdb1 etc show as root:disk
[15:46] <calimero_82> guys how can i copy all files from directory and subdir in a new folder? thanks
[15:47] <pragmaticenigma> majest1c: other system activities can influence execution time. If another process is writing to the drive when your application runs, it may have to wait for resources to unlock
[15:47] <ask-ygU5AP56> (mounting in lxde, via pcmanfm, asks for another user's (in sudoers) creds)
[15:47] <tarzeau> calimero_82: using rsync -av src/ dest/ ?
[15:47] <Zteam> Ntemis, have no experience with raid myself, but I believe TestDisk can recover a Superblock, have you tried that?
[15:47] <majest1c> pragmaticenigma: So the best thing to test this is by closing all applications?
[15:48] <pragmaticenigma> majest1c: no, there are still system level actions that will affect the time.
[15:49] <majest1c> pragmaticenigma: Then basically "time" is a bad way to measure execution times
[15:49] <pragmaticenigma> majest1c: when you look at stats online, they are always the average of a large number of runs
[15:49] <pragmaticenigma> majest1c: You have to use a scientific approach. You can't just take one measurement and call it good.
[15:50] <majest1c> pragmaticenigma: Sure I can do it a number of times then get an average, but if the average includes time spent on something else than executing my code then that number will be worthless
[15:50] <Zteam> calimero_82, cp -R /home/user/files /home/user/target/
[15:51] <calimero_82> tarzeau, the input folder is called backphoto the output is called nuovo3 so rsync -av backphoto/ nuovo3/ ?
[15:51] <pragmaticenigma> majest1c: This is no longer a support question and moving towards discussion. To summarize, there is no perfect way to measure a programs execution time.
[15:51] <majest1c> pragmaticenigma: Thanks!
[15:52] <calimero_82> Zteam, there are 24000 files in subdirectories in backphoto
[15:53] <Zteam> calimero_82, cp should do the job, but rsync might suit your needs better :-)
[15:53] <Ntemis> no
[15:54] <pragmaticenigma> calimero_82: I would also recommend rsync... it will also alow you to restart the copy without having to start from the beginning or deal with file already exists errors
[15:54] <Zteam> Ntemis, then you should try it, it's avaiable from the repos, (unviverise I belive)
[15:55] <Ntemis> trying
[15:55] <Ntemis> installed now what?
[15:56] <paws> just did a fresh install of ubuntu 18.04 and it just sitting there at [ OK ] Reached target Cloud-init target.
[15:56] <paws> is this normal?
[15:56] <gpunk> no
[15:56] <pragmaticenigma> paws: Did you install a cloud instance ?
[15:56] <paws> i dont think so
[15:56] <Zteam> Ntemis, just run sudo testdisk from a terminal, and follow it's instruction
[15:56] <paws> im gonna reinstall this
[15:56] <Zteam> :-)
[15:57] <gpunk> paws: make sure you use the right image
[16:00] <Ntemis> all am seeing is MS Data  235823 15628331310 15628095488
[16:00] <Ntemis> and goes on
[16:02] <calimero_82> it works, thanks guys
[16:05] <calimero_82> no it has copied also directories and subdir,... how can i resolve?
[16:09] <Ntemis> Found Superblock backups stored on blocks: 32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736, 1605632, 2654208, 4096000, 7962624, 11239424, 20480000, 23887872, 71663616, 78675968, 102400000, 214990848
[16:09] <Ntemis> but i cant restore any of them
[16:10] <pragmaticenigma> calimero_82: based on your original question, that is expected. you asked how to copy all files in a directory and subdirectory
[16:11] <calimero_82> no all files in a directory without copy folders and subfolders
[16:13] <pragmaticenigma> you want to capture and copy only files, into a new directory? effectively flattening the directory structure to a single folder containing on the files from the source file tree?
[16:13] <pragmaticenigma> calimero_82: you want to capture and copy only files, into a new directory? effectively flattening the directory structure to a single folder containing on the files from the source file tree? (sorry for the repeat)
[16:16] <calimero_82> pragmaticenigma, i have a directory called photoback, in this folder there are 247 folders with a lot of files: i want copy only all files in a new folder called nuovo3 without copy folders and subfolders
[16:16] <Norux> Hi everybody
[16:17] <Norux> I have a problem: my live usb gets stuck in the booting screen. Version 18.04.1, 64 bit
[16:18] <Norux> How can I fix that
[16:18] <mgedmin> how long have you waited?
[16:18] <Norux> like 10 minutes
[16:18] <mgedmin> ouch
[16:18] <mgedmin> do you see any text if you hit Esc?
[16:18] <rpifan> sad
[16:18] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[16:19] <pragmaticenigma> calimero_82: use everything inside the quotes "find /path/to/src -type f -exec cp {} /path/to/dst \;"
[16:19] <Norux> mgedmin: no. OerHeks: will try that thanks
[16:21] <eia1x> Is there a way to download ever *.file (of especific extension) whose belongs a web page? I already tried wget -A, but without suceed...
[16:22] <pragmaticenigma> eia1x: take a look at "man wget" what you are seeking is documented near the end in the examples
[16:22] <eia1x> pragmaticenigma: Okk, I'll see... :)
[16:24] <explosive> calimero_82: pragmaticenigma: actually that would copy files in the sub dirs
[16:24] <pragmaticenigma> explosive: what are you referring to?
[16:24] <explosive> calimero_82: just make it "find /path/to/src -type f -maxdepth 1 -exec cp {} /path/to/dst \; "
[16:25] <pragmaticenigma> explosive: if you don't think someone's recommendation is correct, seek validation from the requester to make sure you have it interpreted correctly as well
[16:26] <explosive> pragmaticenigma: yeah if you reread his what do you get
[16:27] <explosive> nevermind, you're right
[16:27] <Norux> OerHeks: I get a huge trace when booting with nomodeset
[16:28] <explosive> pragmaticenigma: um, i dunno what to think here the back log looks like he didnt actually want the subdirs at all
[16:29] <Norux> Can anybody else help me on the booting problem?
[16:30] <explosive> pragmaticenigma: ok, seems that's what he wanted, nevermind then :)
[16:31] <pragmaticenigma> explosive: it's hard to know for sure, I take most question in the literal, which is why the first solution didn't work out. I didn't know about the depth feature, that's pretty handy
[16:32] <Zteam> Ntemis, if nothing else works you can try to rescue your files with photorec, or some other recovery utilites
[16:32] <Ntemis> nah is an 8tb of data
[16:33] <Ntemis> lost everything as it seems
[16:34] <mgedmin> RAID-5 cannot survive two failed disks :/
[16:34] <calimero_82> explosive, without -maxdepth 1, i want also the files in the subfloders
[16:34] <calimero_82> it's working
[16:35] <Zteam> Ntemis, well, there are other data recovery softwares to try, but I'm not sure they is able to help you
[16:36] <paws> E: Unable to locate package phpmyadmin <-- why cant my 18.04 find phpmyadmin package?
[16:37] <paws> never mind
[16:37] <paws> sudo add-apt-repository universe
[16:37] <paws> that fixed it
[16:37] <explosive> Ntemis: what happens when you try to mount it? testdisk lets you view the files btw if you press "p"
[16:40] <Zteam> Ntemis, also, remember that TestDisk only suggests alternative superblocks, you have to try them yourself (I believe)
[16:45] <calimero_82> pragmaticenigma, it doesn t copy all files
[16:46] <Norux> I think the reason is a corrupted iso file (-_-)
[16:47] <pragmaticenigma> calimero_82: what files is it missing?
[16:48] <calimero_82> pragmaticenigma, 984 files
[16:49] <calimero_82> ive done propriety for backphoto and nuovo1, miss 984 files in nuovo1
[16:50] <pragmaticenigma> calimero_82: what are the properties of the "files" are you sure they're files and not links?
[16:52] <calimero_82> pragmaticenigma, i don t know, are 123242 files
[16:54] <calimero_82> i click on the folder backphoto,propriety and i see 123242 files
[16:55] <explosive> calimero_82: what does "find /path/to/src -type f | wc -l" give?
[16:55] <pragmaticenigma> calimero_82: we've provided you with, to the best of our ability, you have requested. It would appear that you need to do some research to figure out what didn't get transferred and determine the difference from what did and did not get copied. The command I offered will only copy files... not directories and not linked files. Also, the properties of the source are going to count folders as items.
[16:57] <explosive> calimero_82: you might want to also use "du -sh /path/to/src" "du -sh /path/to/dst" and compare sizes
[16:57] <calimero_82> wait guys, i dont understand, what should i do?
[16:58] <explosive> calimero_82: try running the du commands above, it'll give you a fair idea if it's actually missing any data or just dirs and whatnot
[16:59] <calimero_82> src means? input directory?
[16:59] <explosive> yes
[17:00] <calimero_82> ok i try, i repeat the command cause i 've deleted nuovo1 and do this du
[17:13] <cosmo-tech> Hi, i have the same issue as https://askubuntu.com/questions/1063813/not-able-to-open-desktop-icons-folders-but-able-to-open-files
[17:13] <cosmo-tech> do you know how to solve this ?
[17:40] <Johnny689> hello, I have a question. I search a wlan usb stick, where I can change the mac address and that's supports linux or/and windows. (With much range/power - 2,4 ghz/5 ghz) Have somebody a Tipp?
[17:41] <gpunk> you can change the mac address on every supported device by linux
[17:41] <Johnny689> gpunk: But not in Windows
[17:41] <gpunk> in windows too
[17:41] <dlam> my laptop fan keeps turning on/off repeatedly after i did a BIOS update,  anyone know how to debug it?
[17:42] <OerHeks> networkmanager gives that option, to set mac addr, and more
[17:46] <Johnny689> gpunk: with this stick I have tried to change the mac in windows. And it doesnt work -> https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B007K871ES/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[17:47] <gpunk> you donno how to do it
[17:50] <Johnny689> gpunk: I have tried it with the regular way in windows. (Settings) and with the reg edit way. Both doesn't works for me
[17:50] <gpunk> Johnny689: then it s a bug with the driver, and 2) this not a windows support channel
[17:51] <OerHeks> just setup a new profile in networkmanager, and fiddle around
[17:53] <pagios> hi,    pointopoint (Gateway IP) <-- in /etc/network/interface what does ppointtopoint mean?
[18:03] <ioria> pagios, are you using Aranym ?
[18:15] <calimero_82> i've resolved, thanks guys
[18:27] <ChinnoDog> I recently upgraded from Bionic to Cosmic where it migrated my lxd to the snap based version. Thereafter the networking in containers from linuxcontainers.org doesn't work anymore. Networking still works in the Ubuntu images from the included remotes. Anyone seen this before?
[18:28] <ChinnoDog> clarification: Images from the "ubuntu" remote work. Images from the "images" remote do not.
[18:32] <se-sm-ca> is it possible to tell the preseed to not install or configure grub?
[18:45] <tmwarren> hey.
[18:45] <tmwarren> 1000's of ppl on this server, and no one talks
[18:45] <tmwarren> what gives?? ? ? ? ????????
[18:46] <Mathisen> tmwarren, not a social channel it is a suport channel. try #chat
[18:47] <Mathisen> sry ##chat
[18:51] <tmwarren> Thanks
[18:51] <dlam> my laptop fan keeps turning on/off repeatedly after i did a BIOS update,  anyone know how to debug it?qc
[18:51] <dlam> oops
[18:51] <dlam> (i suck at weechat)
[19:01] <mox-> I'm having some issues building an ISO that boots on the network to reach a Kickstart file to do an unattended installation. It is working great with RHEL/CentOS but with Ubuntu I keep getting "ipconfig: no devices to configure" when the ISO boots. I searched google I can see examples of PXE installations but no bootable ISO installation with a Kickstart. Anyone have an idea what's going on or a reference document for me? Thanks
[19:13] <cyberspectre> Hey everyone. I have a dir full of files that are named like so: ####-##B# (4 numbers, dash, 4 characters alphanumeric). Is there a regex command in bash I can use to rename the files by switching the two 4-character strings?
[19:16] <EriC^^> cyberspectre: you could always use bash to do it, just saying
[19:18] <cyberspectre> EriC^^, that's what I'm asking to do
[19:21] <EriC^^> cyberspectre: i mean like this     find /dir | while IFS='' read -r i; do filename=$(basename "$i"); firstpart=${filename:0:4}; secondpart=${filename: -4}; mv "$filename" "${secondpart}-${firstpart}"; done
[19:23] <EriC^^> cyberspectre: if you decide to use it, try putting 'echo mv' first and see how it goes before using it
[19:26] <cyberspectre> EriC^^, like this? https://pastebin.com/3HULVkBb
[19:26] <EriC^^> cyberspectre: yup
[19:30] <cyberspectre> EriC^^, thanks. Here's what it's doing
[19:30] <cyberspectre> mv 2081-iodi.jpg .jpg-2081
[19:30] <cyberspectre> how can I account for the extension
[19:31] <nmrh> cyberspectre: for another option google "=~ BASH_REMATCH"
[19:32] <EriC^^> cyberspectre: are they all the same .jpg extension?
[19:32] <cyberspectre> EriC^^, yes
[19:32] <kur1j> Are krb5.keytab files considered private?
[19:33] <se-sm-ca> yea
[19:33] <EriC^^> cyberspectre: find /dir | while IFS='' read -r i; do filename=$(basename "$i"); firstpart=${filename:0:4}; secondpart=${filename:5:4}; echo mv "$filename" "${secondpart}-${firstpart}.jpg"; done
[19:36] <cyberspectre> hm
[19:36] <cyberspectre> the files aren't showing up
[19:36] <cyberspectre> is it moving them to the home dir
[19:36] <cyberspectre> I dunno where it's putting them because the files aren't changing
[19:37] <EriC^^> try to run it in the dir itself
[19:37] <EriC^^> cd /dir , then run the find /dir command
[19:38] <cyberspectre> EriC^^, nope
[19:38] <EriC^^> did you remove the echo?
[19:38] <cyberspectre> the output reads correctly but it doesn't happen
[19:38] <cyberspectre> OH I see why you put the echo
[19:38] <Norux> Hey guys I have a problem. I installed Ubuntu 18.04.1 on my laptop. But when booting, I get "no bootable device found" from the bios
[19:38] <EriC^^> yeah
[19:39] <Norux> Eric^^ can surely help with that?
[19:39] <EriC^^> Norux: i shall try :D
[19:39] <Norux> Once again :D
[19:39] <EriC^^> Norux: did you set the right booting method in the BIOS? uefi csm legacy etc?
[19:39] <Norux> Tried uefi and legacy. Secure boot is off
[19:39] <cyberspectre> EriC^^, now it returns "invalid option -- 'z'"
[19:39] <EriC^^> which mode did you install in?
[19:40] <Norux> Uefi
[19:40] <EriC^^> cyberspectre: hmm sounds like there's some file that's wrong, im guessing maybe its parsing the first dir in find
[19:41] <EriC^^> hmm use this
[19:41] <ntd> TJ: ping
[19:41] <EriC^^> cyberspectre: find /dir -type f | while IFS='' read -r i; do filename=$(basename "$i"); firstpart=${filename:0:4}; secondpart=${filename:5:4}; echo mv "$filename" "${secondpart}-${firstpart}.jpg"; done
[19:41] <cyberspectre> EriC^^, https://pastebin.com/eLNpQb8Y
[19:42] <cyberspectre> the dir is /mnt/s/x1
[19:42] <EriC^^> cyberspectre: that way it should only give the files and no dirs
[19:42] <EriC^^> Norux: can you boot a live usb?
[19:42] <Norux> Yes.
[19:42] <ntd> there is a bug in cryptsetup on bionic server media
[19:42] <EriC^^> Norux: ok please do
[19:43] <Norux_> EriC^^: ok it's up
[19:43] <EriC^^> cyberspectre: try find /mnt/s/x1 -type f -iname '*.jpg' | while IFS='' read -r i; do filename=$(basename "$i"); firstpart=${filename:0:4}; secondpart=${filename:5:4}; echo mv "$filename" "${secondpart}-${firstpart}.jpg"; done
[19:45] <EriC^^> hmm but it was saying invalid option "z" , so it must be parsing mv -z somehow
[19:46] <cyberspectre> EriC^^, I think it was coming from the folder name. It was /mnt/s/zzz but I changed it to /mnt/s/x1 to test
[19:46] <EriC^^> oh ok that makes sense
[19:46] <glaucom> hi all... how fix themes on cyanomon ?
[19:46] <cyberspectre> it's weird because
[19:46] <cyberspectre> mv: cannot stat '2151-ast2.jpg': No such file or directory
[19:46] <glaucom> Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/c86764bb6ca221840a4d13b8a5fd2159/image.png
[19:46] <glaucom> borders
[19:46] <cyberspectre> it's listing all the filenames that are correct but it's saying it can't find them
[19:47] <EriC^^> cyberspectre: did you cd into the dir?
[19:47] <cyberspectre> EriC^^, aaaah there we go
[19:47] <EriC^^> :D
[19:47] <cyberspectre> EriC^^, want to help me even more than you already have?
[19:48] <EriC^^> cyberspectre: sure, go ahead
[19:48] <EriC^^> Norux_: can you pastebin "sudo efibootmgr -v" ?
[19:49] <Norux_> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/xocp
[19:49] <EriC^^> Norux_: looks about right
[19:50] <EriC^^> Norux_: are you sure you used "-v" ?
[19:50] <Norux_> EriC^^: woops, that was /v, keyboard configured american style. Here you go: http://termbin.com/qshg
[19:51] <loppydoopy> What's a good way to get my laptop to hibernate on low battery percentage instead of shutting down?
[19:51] <loppydoopy> I'm on 18.04.1 if it matters
[19:51] <cyberspectre> EriC^^, I need to perform the same operation on a bunch of files. All of them use the same ####-##A# format but have different extensions and different prepend strings. But all prepend strings end in _. For example: BCS_3421-A2CD.pdf
[19:52] <EriC^^> cyberspectre: are the prepend strings different than 3 letters sometimes?
[19:53] <cyberspectre> EriC^^, yes
[19:53] <cyberspectre> so are the extensions
[19:53] <Norux_> EriC^^: some information you might find useful: There was a Mac system on this SSD before, and I just put it in my laptop as an upgrade. I did create a new partition table.
[19:53] <EriC^^> Norux_: aha, can you pastebin "sudo blkid" ?
[19:54] <EriC^^> just wanna make sure everything is actually pointing to the right stuff before we try switching the uefi files and whatnot to trick the bios
[19:54] <Norux_> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/nwk2
[19:55] <courrier> I'm having a random issue of touchpad stopping responding smoothly on Dell XPS13 with 18.04
[19:55] <courrier> When it happens, it's always fixed after rebooting, so it seems a software issue.
[19:55] <courrier> Example video: Compare my motion on the touchpad versus the pointer on-screen: https://tinyurl.com/dell-touchpad-issue
[19:55] <courrier> Could it be an Ubuntu issue or firmware-related? Dell already changed my touchpad a couple of months ago, without change.
[19:55] <EriC^^> cyberspectre: i could possibly do it, but it is gonna be ugly, i'd rather you join #bash and ask they'll get you sorted rather quickly and neatly
[19:56] <cyberspectre> EriC^^, I will. Thank you
[19:56] <cyberspectre> I didn't know there was a #bash
[19:56] <cyberspectre> there are only 4-5 different types so I could easily use the script you gave me
[19:57] <EriC^^> they're pretty decent guys there, they'll probably have a nice way to do it
[19:58] <EriC^^> Norux_: oh, the partuuid it's pointing to isn't right
[19:59] <EriC^^> Norux_: it's the one starting with 105...., so the 0000 entry in the list
[19:59] <EriC^^> Norux_: try changing the boot order so it's first, sudo efibootmgr -o 0000,2001,0002,2002,2003
[20:00] <EriC^^> Norux_: also since we have the live usb booted, try to mount the efi partition, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt, and see if the file is there, ls -lR /mnt/efi | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:01] <Norux_> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/y23p seems like there are files
[20:02] <EriC^^> yup looks good
[20:02] <kur1j> why is setting up kerberos and NFS so miserable?
[20:02] <Norux_> EriC^^: so reboot?
[20:02] <EriC^^> Norux_: yeah go for it
[20:03] <Norux_> EriC^^: nope still the same issue
[20:03] <EriC^^> Norux_: hmm is there a uefi list in the bios you can sort?
[20:03] <Norux_> EriC^^: you mean a boot order?
[20:03] <loppydoopy> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TMyxTymqmh/
[20:03] <loppydoopy> I think that is my issue?
[20:03] <EriC^^> Norux_: yeah but for uefi
[20:04] <Norux_> EriC^^: I mean there is a "Boot priority order" under Boot.
[20:04] <EriC^^> Norux_: does it mention ubuntu?
[20:05] <loppydoopy> how do I get the upower daemon to respect what is in the default upower.conf?
[20:05] <Norux_> EriC^^: yeah on last place is "EFI File Boot 0: ubuntu"
[20:05] <EriC^^> nice!
[20:05] <EriC^^> put it at the top
[20:05] <EriC^^> are there 2 ubuntu's?
[20:06] <Norux_> EriC^^: no, and putting on top seemingly doesn't do anything
[20:06] <EriC^^> hmm
[20:06] <eletious> I'm still having issues with lightdm and MATE - starting MATE from lightdm (which starts MATE automatically because Vagrant) throws an issue with reading org.gnome.SessionManager
[20:06] <EriC^^> i guess we'll try switching the files Norux_ , boot the live usb up again
[20:07] <Norux_> EriC^^: okay one second
[20:07] <eletious> I'm able to kill lightdm, and start mate with .xinitrc and startx, but would like to find out why MATE fails to start
[20:08] <Norux_> EriC^^: okay it's up now
[20:09] <EriC^^> Norux_: ok, type 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt'
[20:11] <EriC^^> Norux_: then 'sudo mkdir -p /mnt/efi/microsoft/boot && cp /mnt/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi'
[20:11] <Norux_> EriC^^: the folder is /mnt/EFI not /mnt/efi
[20:12] <EriC^^> same thing, fat32 doesn't have case sensitivity
[20:12] <Norux_> EriC^^: oh okay.
[20:12] <EriC^^> it's for the lazy god bless it :D
[20:13] <Norux_> do you mean sudo cp?
[20:13] <EriC^^> Norux_: yes
[20:13] <Norux_> Okay good
[20:14] <EriC^^> Norux_: ok before you restart, please pastebin sudo efibootmgr -v one more time to get an idea if it saved stuff earlier
[20:14] <EriC^^> which laptop or desktop motherboard is this?
[20:15] <Norux_> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/7q94
[20:15] <Norux_> EriC^^: still the good old Acer Aspire ES11
[20:15] <EriC^^> aha
[20:15] <EriC^^> it didn't really save our changes earlier
[20:15] <Norux_> hmm
[20:15] <EriC^^> it seems it's happy with the ubuntu 0002 entry at the top, except the file its pointing to doesnt exist anymore
[20:16] <EriC^^> anyways try restarting to see if tricking the bios will boot it
[20:16] <Norux_> EriC^^: nope
[20:17] <EriC^^> Norux_: ok, in the bios, make ubuntu a lower entry, and make the windows entry higher priority
[20:17] <Norux_> EriC^^: there is no windows entry
[20:17] <EriC^^> ah actually the windows one is also pointing to the non existent disk
[20:17] <EriC^^> what's in the list?
[20:19] <Norux_> EriC^^: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7Msw7C6ZvR/
[20:20] <EriC^^> Norux_: hmm i have an idea
[20:20] <EriC^^> Norux_: boot the live usb and type "sudo gdisk /dev/sda" then press "x" to go to expert mode, then "c" to change partuuid
[20:21] <EriC^^> select the first partition, then change it to "6cdc8363-2e26-494d-b522-960f38da0ae6"
[20:22] <kur1j> I'm following these instructions...https://serverfault.com/questions/837223/unable-to-mount-kerberized-nfs every time I mount I get "rpc.gssd[3963]: ERROR: No credentials found for connection to server"
[20:25] <Norux_> EriC^^: okay done
[20:26] <EriC^^> Norux_: press "w" to write it and exit
[20:26] <Norux_> EriC^^: then reboot?
[20:26] <EriC^^> yes
[20:27] <Norux_> EriC^^: you may guess what happens...
[20:27] <EriC^^> sounds like it didnt work
[20:27] <EriC^^> though i'd have put money on it working :D
[20:28] <Norux_> Hopefully there was no typo
[20:28] <ioria> iirc, acer efi is uniqe, you need to add the uefi file (grubx64.efi) in bios - set supervisory password  and set it "trust" or similar
[20:29] <EriC^^> Norux_: have you set the admin password in the bios? it gives extra options for uefi
[20:29] <Norux_> EriC^^: yes I have set a supervisor password
[20:30] <EriC^^> Norux_: do you have another hdd attached that's usb?
[20:30] <Norux_> EriC^^: no, just the live usb
[20:30] <ioria> and disable secureboot
[20:30] <Norux_> ioria: I did
[20:30] <EriC^^> are you positive uefi is enabled and csm legacy is disabled?
[20:30] <Norux_> EriC^^: Boot mode is on UEFI and Secure Boot is Disabled.
[20:31] <EriC^^> Norux_: ok, try booting the live usb again, pastebin 'sudo parted -l'
[20:31] <EriC^^> maybe it expects somehow that HFS128G32TND-N210A hdd
[20:32] <EriC^^> we'll try to chroot and reinstall grub and see what happens
[20:32] <Norux_> EriC^^: that one is my ssd i think
[20:32] <Norux_> EriC^^: I tried boot-repair by yannbuntu
[20:32] <Norux_> EriC^^: oh btw, is there a short command to set the keyboard locale to german?
[20:33] <Norux_> http://termbin.com/1niw
[20:34] <ioria> 50 mb ?
[20:35] <EriC^^> seems to have the hdd right, odd
[20:35] <ioria> sounds small
[20:35] <EriC^^> let's try to chroot and reinstall grub, sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[20:36] <EriC^^> for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[20:36] <EriC^^> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi
[20:36] <Norux_> EriC^^: sorry, what's up with the chroot?
[20:37] <EriC^^> to reinstall grub
[20:37] <blackflow> I wouldn't bind in /run it's wrong (doesn't represent services running in chroot)
[20:38] <Norux_> EriC^^: but that's after the commands you told me right?
[20:38] <blackflow> also, use -R and you don't need to list dev/pts separately (And you're missing shm anyway)
[20:38] <EriC^^> i usually bind it so the networking still works
[20:38] <blackflow> why woulnd' it work without /run?
[20:38] <ioria> network
[20:39] <Schnabeltierchen> Is there a way to show which entry of /lib/udev/hwdb.d/60-sensor.hwdb is used?
[20:39] <EriC^^> well you'd need to copy over the file, forgot it's name
[20:40] <Norux_> EriC^^: so I've entered the commands you gave me (except the chroot one?)
[20:40] <blackflow> what for exactly? are you talking about _controlling_ network with netplan/networkd?
[20:40] <blackflow> because if you don't need that, network is in the kernel, not in /run
[20:40] <EriC^^> Norux_: yes, type sudo chroot /mnt
[20:40] <Norux_> EriC^^: ok
[20:40] <EriC^^> blackflow: no i mean /run/resolvconf
[20:41] <LigH> Hi
[20:41] <EriC^^> Norux_: type 'grub-install'
[20:42] <Norux_> EriC^^: cannot find EFI directory
[20:42] <blackflow> EriC^^: not sure you need that. at best you might need to copy over /etc/resolv.conf
[20:43] <EriC^^> Norux_: did you run mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot/efi?
[20:43] <blackflow> (because binding /run could have negative effect, it represents state outside of the chroot)
[20:44] <EriC^^> blackflow: tbh i remember once not binding /run once, cause somebody advised not to, but apt for some reason wouldn't work without binding it
[20:44] <Norux_> EriC^^: oh now it works. No error reported.
[20:44] <EriC^^> it's as far as i remember not sure what the deal was exactly
[20:44] <EriC^^> so i resorted back to binding /run whenever i chroot
[20:44] <LigH> How can I make cmake recogonize and prefer GCC 8.2 over GCC 7.3 while configuring a project, after installing gcc-8 and g++-8 in Ubuntu MATE 18.04.1 LTS?
[20:45] <EriC^^> Norux_: ok, type 'update-grub'
[20:45] <blackflow> EriC^^: I've been installing ubuntu exclusively via chroots and debootstrap, never neded to bind /run :)  I really think you just mean /etc/resolve.conf
[20:45] <blackflow> *resolv.conf
[20:45] <EriC^^> no afair apt wouldn't work
[20:45] <Norux_> EriC^^: done
[20:46] <EriC^^> i'd resort back to not binding, always like to improve, i'll see what happens i guess
[20:46] <EriC^^> thanks
[20:47] <EriC^^> Norux_: ok what does 'efibootmgr -v' give now?
[20:47] <Norux_> EriC^^: outside of chroot?
[20:47] <EriC^^> doesnt matter really
[20:47] <blackflow> EriC^^: anyway, you're also missing /dev/shm
[20:47] <EriC^^> what's that for if you dont mind me asking?
[20:47] <blackflow> I just bind -R entire /dev
[20:47] <Norux_> EriC^^: 0000,2001,2002,2003
[20:48] <blackflow> EriC^^: tmpfs and friends for example
[20:48] <Norux_> I'll pastebin it
[20:48] <blackflow> and some services require it for their IPC
[20:48] <EriC^^> so you do "for i in /dev /sys /proc; do sudo mount -R $i /mnt$i; done"  ?
[20:48] <Norux_> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/41sk
[20:49] <blackflow> EriC^^: technically I just bind dev and sys, and moount proc directly:   mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc
[20:49] <blackflow> but yeah I guess you can bind /proc too
[20:49] <EriC^^> aha
[20:51] <EriC^^> Norux_: looks like ubuntu is first in the list now
[20:51] <EriC^^> Norux_: try to reboot and see how it goes
[20:51] <ioria> yes, but with shim
[20:51] <Schnabeltierchen> Someone know how to configure an entry in /lib/udev/hwdb.d/60-sensor-locale.hwdb?
[20:51] <Norux_> EriC^^: same thing
[20:51] <ash_worksi> what is "7.3.0" in "7.3.0-16ubuntu3" ?
[20:51] <ash_worksi> and what's the trailing 3?
[20:52] <blackflow> ash_worksi: upstream version;  ubuntu-specific package revision
[20:53] <ash_worksi> so the upstream version is completely different from the (whatever version 18.04 is called) version?
[20:53] <EriC^^> Norux_: try turning secure boot on
[20:54] <LigH> ash_worksi: "7.3.0" looks like the generic GNU compiler version?
[20:54] <Norux_> EriC^^: no difference
[20:54] <ioria> Norux_, i guess you need to work on your special bios settings (and why your efi part is just 50mb ?)
[20:54] <LigH> How can I make cmake recogonize and prefer GCC 8.2 over GCC 7.3 while configuring a project, after installing gcc-8 and g++-8 in Ubuntu MATE 18.04.1 LTS?
[20:55] <Norux_> ioria: I set that manually - in the installer it said minimum was 35 MB so I thought 50 were alright
[20:55] <EriC^^> Norux_: do you have a one-time boot menu you can access?
[20:55] <ioria> ok, at your risk
[20:55] <Norux_> EriC^^: what do you mean by that?
[20:55] <Norux_> ioria: how much do you recommend?
[20:55] <ioria> 500
[20:55] <EriC^^> Norux_: try pressing F12 when the pc first starts
[20:56] <LigH> Or ESC
[20:56] <LigH> Or DEL
[20:56] <EriC^^> Norux_: ^ or F9
[20:56] <Norux_> :D
[20:56] <EriC^^> it's a boot options menu that lets you choose a boot option to boot just that one time
[20:56] <Norux_> So F2 opens the usual boot options, F12 opens the one you mean
[20:57] <LigH> F12 may let you select the device to boot from
[20:57] <EriC^^> ok is there an ubuntu there?
[20:57] <Norux_> EriC^^: yes
[20:57] <EriC^^> try pressing it
[20:57] <Norux_> doesn't work
[20:58] <Norux_> the same error message
[20:58] <EriC^^> hmm
[20:58] <yates> what is the name of the add-users gui program? i want to start it from the command line
[20:58] <EriC^^> Norux_: are there other entries in it?
[20:58] <yates> i am not physically in front of the computer
[20:59] <Norux_> EriC^^: no, I disconnected the live usb
[20:59] <EriC^^> Norux_: is there the HDD one?
[20:59] <Norux_> EriC^^: only ubuntu
[20:59] <EriC^^> Norux_: hmm
[20:59] <ioria> you need to explicitly set the 'efi file '  (grubx64.efi) not the distro
[21:00] <EriC^^> i guess it is finding the file, cause in any case we changed the partuuid
[21:00] <yates> ?
[21:00] <EriC^^> i think maybe if we use grubx64.efi instead of shimx64.efi it might work
[21:00] <EriC^^> i have a hunch
[21:00] <yates> is it "users-admin"?
[21:00] <EriC^^> Norux_: boot the live usb again
[21:01] <LigH> yates: Probaly "users-admin"
[21:01] <yates> LigH: hmm, i get a hourglass inthe gui ... forever..
[21:02] <LigH> Well, I have MATE. But their channel is dead.
[21:02] <Norux_> EriC^^: okay done
[21:02] <yates> yes, this is mate too.
[21:03] <LigH> Can you start the "mate-control-center"?
[21:03] <EriC^^> Norux_: let's just try switching the files real quick as it's easier that way we know it's for sure booting it
[21:03] <EriC^^> Norux_: type 'sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt'
[21:03] <yates> LigH: yes
[21:04] <yates> but when i click Users and Groups, i get the same window with the infinite hourglass...
[21:04] <LigH> And then "users-admin" when it runs?
[21:04] <LigH> Aha.
[21:05] <LigH> So maybe something in your user configuration in general is fishy.
[21:05] <EriC^^> Norux_: then sudo cp /mnt/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi.backup
[21:06] <yates> LigH: is it acceptable to run users-admin as root?
[21:06] <yates> that's what i am doing.
[21:06] <Norux_> EriC^^: okay did that
[21:06] <yates> or anyone?
[21:07] <LigH> Should be sufficient to sudo it, if you are a sudoer.
[21:07] <yates> but it should run as root, right?
[21:07] <EriC^^> Norux_: then "sudo cp /mnt/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /mnt/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi"
[21:07] <yates> i can run the other applets in mat-control-center
[21:08] <LigH> Of course the root user should be able to manage users... but if the user configutation files are messed up, the app may not be able to interpret it correctly.
[21:08] <Norux_> EriC^^: okay
[21:09] <LigH> I have no clue how to analyze and fix user control files.
[21:09] <EriC^^> Norux_: also let's try adding our own custom uefi entry in case it actually needs the name right and we can try ioria's suggestion as well
[21:10] <EriC^^> Norux_: sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\grubx64.efi -L "grubx64.efi" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[21:11] <Norux_> EriC^^: okay I added that one.
[21:11] <EriC^^> Norux_: ok, try restarting and see what happens
[21:11] <Norux_> EriC^^: is it too late now to change the efi partition size?
[21:11] <EriC^^> it's not that important tbh
[21:11] <EriC^^> 50mb is ok
[21:11] <Norux_> EriC^^: ok
[21:11] <Norux_> EriC^^: still not working
[21:12] <EriC^^> Norux_: ok, try pressing f12 and see what you get there
[21:13] <Norux_> still only one entry, ubuntu
[21:13] <EriC^^> what happens if you try booting it?
[21:14] <Norux_> EriC^^: the error message comes up
[21:15] <EriC^^> are there any options you can tweak for the uefi?
[21:16] <Norux_> What do you mean by that?
[21:16] <EriC^^> like 'trust' an entry or something similar
[21:16] <EriC^^> or browse for efi file etc
[21:16] <EriC^^> in the bios options for uefi booting
[21:16] <Norux_> EriC^^: oh yeah! Select an UEFI file as trusted for executing
[21:17] <EriC^^> nice
[21:19] <Norux_> EriC^^: so I can select HDD0 there
[21:22] <Norux_> EriC^^: do I select EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi there?
[21:22] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:23] <zaggynl> hiho, I'm managing to break ext4 quickly: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TMsyS8YmP4/ , smartctl check comes back with no issues, did I find a bug in ext4?
[21:23] <Norux_> "Boot Description"?
[21:24] <EriC^^> say ubuntu
[21:24] <EriC^^> or grub
[21:25] <Norux_> EriC^^: IT WORKS
[21:25] <EriC^^> great!
[21:27] <Norux_> wow
[21:27] <Norux_> I didn't expect to fix it today to be honest
[21:27] <EriC^^> i was kinda losing hope a little as well :P
[21:28] <Norux_> EriC^^: thanks so much for your help, *again*!
[21:28] <EriC^^> Norux_: no problem :)
[21:29] <Norux_> EriC^^: haven't had a single ubuntu installation without booting issues so far
[21:29] <Norux_> and you fixed every single one of them!
[21:30] <EriC^^> :) uefi is fun that's for sure :D
[21:35] <Sven_vB> is guestfs stable nowadays? the forum thread where I found the recommedation for guestfs noted some workarounds for bionic.
[21:36] <Sven_vB> are there other good options to mount an ext4 partition image in userland?
[21:39] <blackflow> Sven_vB: loop mount?
[21:39] <Sven_vB> blackflow, how do I do that as a regular user?
[21:39] <kur1j> can someone explain keytabs to me and which boxes *actually* need them and which ones need the *same* keys in the keytab files?
[21:39] <blackflow> Sven_vB: man mount, /THE LOOP DEVICE<enter>
[21:40] <blackflow> Sven_vB: though I'm not sure about regular user, it creates a loop /dev(ice)
[21:42] <Sven_vB> blackflow, mount: only root can do that
[21:42] <Sven_vB> for mount casper-rw ./mnt -t ext4 -o loop=/dev/loop
[21:43] <Sven_vB> as root I wouldn't even need the loop= part or -t
[21:43] <blackflow> Sven_vB: do you have root/sudo there at all?
[21:44] <Sven_vB> blackflow, I could, but I'd prefer to find a way to run that program with low privileges.
[21:44] <Schnabeltierchen> if i got a problem with a device in /lib/udev/hwdb.d/60-sensor.hwdb where i can ask for help? any ideas?
[21:44] <blackflow> Sven_vB: I was gonna suggest you whip up a simple wrapper script and give it passwordless sudo capability
[21:45] <blackflow> I honestly don't know of a way to mount an image like that without root. even the nbd/qemu trickery requires root methinks
[21:45] <blackflow> unless of course you go the route of usermount
[21:45] <blackflow> (or fuse even)
[21:45] <AngelKde> Schnabeltierchen,  what vers . of ubuntu ?
[21:46] <Sven_vB> blackflow, yeah I'd like the fuse route, that's why I asked about guestfs. :D
[21:46] <blackflow> it's slow tho'
[21:46] <Schnabeltierchen> AngelKde 18.04
[21:46] <Sven_vB> blackflow, if it's too slow for me I can still mess with sudo.
[21:46] <blackflow> if I were you I'd go the route of a sudo wrapper
[21:47] <LigH> How can I make cmake recogonize and prefer GCC 8.2 over GCC 7.3 while configuring a project, after installing gcc-8 and g++-8 in Ubuntu MATE 18.04.1 LTS?
[21:48] <Sven_vB> blackflow, ok. thanks for the suggestion. :)
[21:50] <AngelKde> Schnabeltierchen,  try this https://github.com/systemd/systemd/blob/master/hwdb/60-sensor.hwdb
[21:51] <blackflow> Sven_vB: there's also udisks and gvfs and ability to give your user a polkit policy to use them, but I don't know if they work with loop mounts
[22:01] <Schnabeltierchen> AngelKde i´ve looked into the new file, there are enties for my Lenovo miix 320 but they dont match the build in sensor nor the product name...
[22:02] <AngelKde> try reboot Schnabeltierchen
[22:03] <Schnabeltierchen> i did, after systemd-hwdb update
[22:04] <Schnabeltierchen> the file mentions the *BOSC0200* and the SM08840 sensor for beeing used, but it´s the KIOX000A*
[22:05] <AngelKde> systemd--usr and after try systemd-hwdb update
[22:05] <Schnabeltierchen> for the modelname they state pn80XF and pnLenovoMIIX320 but its PN80SG (i´m very sure)
[22:06] <Schnabeltierchen> "systemd--usr" ?
[22:08] <AngelKde> Schnabeltierchen,  you have the bios update ?
[22:09] <Schnabeltierchen> yep
[22:13] <Schnabeltierchen> "sudo dmidecode | grep Produc" gives me "Product Name: 80SG | Product Name: Cavalli", the 60-sensor.hwdb states 80XF and LenovoMIIX320, so the accel-matrix can´t get recognized, right?
[22:18] <AngelKde> Schnabeltierchen, try this is my ultimete solucion XD https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/410826/change-iio-sensors-data-via-custom-accel-mount-matrix
[22:18] <Schnabeltierchen> i´ve tried this already :)
[22:19] <Schnabeltierchen> this tutorial made me check the dmicodes and stuff :)
[22:20] <Scunizi> Is there a way to update the package manager to accept google's repository name change from Google, Inc to Google LLC? Update is failing on a chrome update.
[22:21] <OerHeks> Scunizi, yes, open terminal ctrl T : sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade # and hit y on the question for change Google LLC
[22:22] <OerHeks> i have noticed this 30 min ago too
[22:23] <OerHeks> they don't mention LLC on https://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/ .. ugly
[22:23] <Scunizi> OerHeks: thanks.. my sys isn't presenting an option to approve the change..
[22:24] <Scunizi> OerHeks: even with the # at the end of the line....
[22:53] <Aison> hello, I installed openjdk 11 on bionic
[22:54] <Aison> but java --version gives me OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 10.0.2+13-Ubuntu-1ubuntu0.18.04.3)
[22:54] <Aison> why version 10 and not 11?
[22:55] <leftyfb> Aison: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[22:56] <OerHeks> as openjdk 11 was not released in april '18, and will be backported, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1037646/why-is-openjdk-10-packaged-as-openjdk-11
[22:56] <Aison> OerHeks, oh, thx...
[22:57] <Aison> but in the meantime openjdk 11 is released, not?
[22:58] <OerHeks> yes, answer #11 gives the download, but i would wait for the update 11.0.1
[22:58] <OerHeks> 18.10 already got it, i read?
[22:59] <Aison> yes
[23:20] <ph88> how can i find out the repository of an installed package from cli ?
[23:22] <ph88> oh apt policy
[23:30] <Richard_Cavell> Is there any type of graphical tool (Ubuntu 16.04) for backing up to external hard disk?
[23:33] <blackswan> dd isn't graphical enough?
[23:33]  * blackswan ducks
[23:34] <OerHeks> or the standard backuptool deja-vu ..
[23:35] <OerHeks> or the filemanager :-D
[23:35] <OerHeks> rsync && grsync gui
[23:36]  * OerHeks whales
[23:38] <Richard_Cavell> OerHeks, File manager doesn't copy hidden files
[23:40] <OerHeks> sure it does, ctrl +h to unhide them
[23:42] <Richard_Cavell> OerHeks, oh okay I didn't know that
[23:42] <OerHeks> have fun :-)
[23:44] <Richard_Cavell> grsync is pretty good.  Should I just put / for source and /dev/sdb for destination?  (Obviously I want rsync to skip copying /dev/sdb to itself)
[23:46] <OerHeks> yes, but skip some folders you don't want , https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/104743/entries-i-can-safely-exclude-doing-backups
[23:46] <OerHeks>  /dev/random/  and such
[23:48] <Richard_Cavell> Actually let me explain my backup needs.  I have a computer with Ubuntu 16.04 installed on the hard disk.  This computer can't boot from an external USB drive but it will boot from optical drive (from a Live DVD).  64 gigs of my internal hard disk are being used.  I have an external hard disk.  What's the best way of backing up so that I can use a live DVD to restore from that external hard disk?
[23:52] <kflorf> Would some one be able to help me route my network traffic through a VPN please?
[23:52] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: just copy the files where you need to
[23:52] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: use rsync or cp or file manager
[23:53] <Richard_Cavell> leftyfb, so rsync from internal hard disk to an external one (formatted as ext4) and then rsync back using a live DVD if necessary?
[23:54] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: sure
[23:54] <leftyfb> Richard_Cavell: only worry about copying stuff from your /home. Anything more than that, copy if you want, but only use as reference
[23:54] <Richard_Cavell> If I rsync the entire thing though it should be able to restore completely, right?