| lubot | gabrielprz was added by: gabrielprz | 11:37 |
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| Unlimiter | Hello! How can I help improve some vocabulary and fix words in "https://manual.lubuntu.me"? | 18:32 |
| wxl | hey Unlimiter you most certainly can help. we've been working on documentation on that. let me see if we've got that set up | 18:33 |
| wxl | ok doesn't look like we do | 18:34 |
| Unlimiter | why? | 18:35 |
| wxl | been too busy with everything else :) | 18:35 |
| wxl | but i can point you in the right direction | 18:35 |
| Unlimiter | please go ahead | 18:35 |
| wxl | oh no wait | 18:35 |
| wxl | we do! yay! | 18:36 |
| Unlimiter | :D | 18:36 |
| wxl | it's in the code base | 18:36 |
| wxl | https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-manual/browse/master/CONTRIBUTING.md | 18:36 |
| Unlimiter | Nice, thanks | 18:36 |
| Unlimiter | I'll start fixing now | 18:36 |
| wxl | if you have any other questions, i'd ask at #lubuntu-devel | 18:37 |
| wxl | there's a few other contributors there | 18:37 |
| wxl | as well as lynorian who is the Documentation Lead | 18:37 |
| Unlimiter | got it | 18:37 |
| lynorian | yay more people to edit | 18:38 |
| Unlimiter | But I don't have Linux on my PC | 18:39 |
| Unlimiter | I guess I'll wait until I install Lubuntu | 18:39 |
| wxl | actually this will look a lot better https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-manual/browse/master/CONTRIBUTING.md?as=remarkup | 18:39 |
| wxl | you can install it in a virtual machine | 18:39 |
| wxl | the other thing you can do is actually create patches and mail them as shown at the bottom of that instructions | 18:39 |
| wxl | of course you got to know how to create patches | 18:40 |
| wxl | if you're familiar with git, it shouldn't be too difficult | 18:40 |
| Unlimiter | yup | 18:40 |
| wxl | still you'll need to use git and shs | 18:40 |
| wxl | ssh that is | 18:40 |
| Unlimiter | Did I say that I LOVE Lubuntu, because i do! | 18:41 |
| Unlimiter | I read the whole manual | 18:41 |
| wxl | glad to hear it :) | 18:41 |
| Unlimiter | It's amazing | 18:41 |
| lynorian | I am really glad to hear it | 18:42 |
| kran | Hi guys. Trying to install from a USB drive a Lubuntu install ISO put there via YUMI. Boots fine, I connect to wifi, select partition to replace, and I get "installation failed bad source source=/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs" | 18:42 |
| wxl | kran: did you check the hashes and at the boot screen check the image for defects? | 18:43 |
| kran | This is being installed beside a Win7 installation already there. I checked the checksum of the ISO I downloaded and even removed and rewrote it to the USB drive, same result. | 18:43 |
| kran | wxl how do I check the image for defects? | 18:43 |
| wxl | at the boot screen, select "check disc for defects" isntead of the default "start lubuntu" | 18:43 |
| kran | checking now | 18:44 |
| kran | wxl it flashed some acpi errors, lubuntu splash, then rebooted again | 18:45 |
| wxl | that doesn't sound right | 18:45 |
| wxl | it should end with a "no errors found, press any key to reboot" underneath the splash | 18:45 |
| wxl | and then it waits | 18:45 |
| wxl | it does not reboot itself | 18:45 |
| kran | wxl just did it again. back to YUMI multiboot screen | 18:46 |
| wxl | sounds like a copy error | 18:46 |
| kran | wxl it's a USB drive that has numerous systems that has been successfully used various times. Should I try another USB drive? Is there a netinstall solution since I have wifi? | 18:47 |
| kran | I want the latest 64-bit Lubuntu | 18:47 |
| wxl | having other systems on there might be problematic | 18:47 |
| kran | wxl you mean with YUMI? | 18:48 |
| * wxl shrugs | 18:48 | |
| wxl | we don't test with yumi and i know nothing about it | 18:48 |
| kran | wxl what's the official way to put the ISO on a USB drive so I can install it? | 18:49 |
| kran | wxl even better: is there a way to do it over wifi? | 18:49 |
| wxl | what i do know is if the image on the usb doesn't match, bit for bit, the official image, there's a high likelihood of all sorts of problems | 18:49 |
| wxl | theoretically, you could use the mini.iso, but if you're having problems with images, you'll probably continue to have problems with images | 18:50 |
| wxl | here's a bunch of advice on the subject https://manual.lubuntu.me/1/1.2/booting_the_image.html | 18:50 |
| wxl | my personal opinion is that the linux command dd is the absolute most reliable methodology, but also the most dangerous | 18:51 |
| wxl | i have never ever had a failure with dd, but have seen problems with nearly every other tool i've used | 18:51 |
| kran | wxl OK looks like they use Rufus | 18:52 |
| wxl | mkusb is nice because it's ultimately a front end for dd | 18:52 |
| kran | wxl Rufus is asking ISO or DD. Which one? | 18:53 |
| wxl | i don't do windows, bub | 18:53 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @kran [<kran> wxl Rufus is asking ISO or DD. Which one?], Try the default (don't remember which ist) If it doesn't work try the other | 18:54 |
| kran | lubot OK | 18:54 |
| wxl | lubot is a bridge to Telegram. it's @HMollerCl chatting at you kran | 18:55 |
| kran | HMollercl don't know what that means, but OK | 18:55 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> @kran [<kran> HMollercl don't know what that means, but OK], My 'name' in telegram | 18:56 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> I'm on telegram, not irc | 18:56 |
| kran | I don't know what telegram is, other than that form of communication used decades ago. | 18:56 |
| wxl | let's put it to you this way: lubot relays message from a different communication platform | 18:58 |
| wxl | lubot is a piece of software | 18:58 |
| wxl | and for your education https://duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=https%3A%2F%2Ftelegram.org%2F | 18:58 |
| kran | seems to be working now. I guess YUMI is incompatible | 19:01 |
| kran | wxl is Lubuntu the best lightweight system as far as being able to get support and not stressing the system too much? | 19:02 |
| wxl | kran: lubuntu is built to strike a balance between streamlined and usable. if it's light in exclusion to function, that's not good. if it's got too much function than necessary, that's not good. | 19:03 |
| kran | wxl I've had luck with Lubuntu on laptops. Putting it on an i5 desktop now. | 19:03 |
| eyun89 | Hi there, I am a first time linux user and decided to use Lubuntu. I love the user interface and want to keep using it but the installation process is very confusing to me. I installed it on my hard drive using a usb boot. I got installed rEFInd and I see a "Boot EFI\ubunut\grubx64.efi" and "Boot boot\vmlinz-4.18.0-10-generic", I can only get to Lubuntu with the "boot\vmlinz.." which is the second option | 20:17 |
| eyun89 | of the rEFInd window. Should the "Boot EFI\ubuntu.." be working or should I find a way to change the rEFInd default boot option. I'm having a hard time understanding the situation. Thanks in advanced. | 20:17 |
| * lynorian has never used REFInd so I wish I could help | 20:23 | |
| lynorian | although with booting off usb you don't want it not to boot without the USB in | 20:23 |
| lynorian | wasn't rEFInd for apple hardware | 20:24 |
| eyun89 | Thank you for your response. Yeah so I tried install linux on my older macbook and it was not booting after installing in on the computer so through forums I found rEFInd. I'm still new to this so I don't know my ways around getting this to work | 20:25 |
| lynorian | eyun89: are you asking how to make lubuntu first in the boot order right? | 20:25 |
| eyun89 | Sort of. I no longer have macOS installed and only have those two options: "EFI" and "vmlinz". "vmlinz" is in the second order and that is the one that will boot properly. The EFI just shows a blank screen. | 20:27 |
| eyun89 | I read somewhere that the EFI is responsible for the boot but that is not the case for me. I'm also trying to understand the difference between those two I guess. | 20:28 |
| kran | Lubuntu: I use a GPU that has SPDIF in headers to mix audio into the HDMI port. 2 headers are wired from the GPU pins to the motherboard pins. I tested this in a Win7 install on this system and it works fine, but lubuntu has no audio out. | 20:41 |
| kran | I know it's not the hardware or installation, since it works in Windows 7 on this very same machine. | 20:42 |
| lynorian | kran: https://manual.lubuntu.me/2/2.5/2.5.2/pulseaudio_volume_control.html does this help you at all? | 20:43 |
| lynorian | you would need to select that as the output source | 20:43 |
| lynorian | kran: or does your SPDIF not show up at all? | 20:44 |
| kran | lynorian i only see Digital Output (S/PDIF) where it says port. | 20:44 |
| lynorian | have you tried that S/PDIF output and is not showing up there? | 20:44 |
| * lynorian wonders if this might be a driver issue | 20:45 | |
| kran | lynorian it has always been selected, being the only option. | 20:45 |
| lynorian | kran: and you are getting no sound? | 20:45 |
| kran | lynorian i think it's a zotac 9500GT in there | 20:45 |
| lynorian | kran make sure it is not muted anywhere? | 20:48 |
| kran | lynorian yes | 20:48 |
| kran | lynorian maybe i need to reinstall a driver? | 20:48 |
| kran | lynorian it is an old GPU. perhaps reinstalling will help? how would I do that? | 20:49 |
| kran | https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-to-install-a-nvidia-geforce-9500gt-673780/ | 20:49 |
| kran | "Uninstall all the nvidia drivers and then install envy-ng" | 20:49 |
| lynorian | kran: unfortanelty there is no package by that name in the repos for 18.10 at least | 20:51 |
| lynorian | what version are you on? | 20:51 |
| kran | of? | 20:52 |
| lynorian | lubuntu | 20:52 |
| kran | 18.10 64bit, downloaded it today | 20:52 |
| lynorian | kran: have you not installed proprietary nvidia drivers | 20:53 |
| kran | havent installed much of anything yet | 20:53 |
| lynorian | althouhg I am not sure 9500 GT is supported still | 20:53 |
| kran | lynorian worth a shot. what is the command? | 20:54 |
| lynorian | try lsmod |grep nvidia | 20:54 |
| lynorian | if it returns nothing then you are not | 20:54 |
| kran | returns nothing | 20:55 |
| kran | so what do I do? | 20:56 |
| lynorian | kran you don't have any motherboard audio outputs on the back of your machine? | 20:57 |
| kran | lynorian yes I do, but I need the HDMI to work, too. | 20:57 |
| lubot | leandroramos was removed by: leandroramos | 20:57 |
| lynorian | kran I haven't quite figured out this solution and looks like nvidia might have had a proprietary driver but the company does not have a version of that driver that works with Lubuntu 18.10 :( | 21:04 |
| lynorian | and since it is proprietary we can't really fix it or maintain it ourselves | 21:04 |
| lynorian | https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/137276/en-us | 21:05 |
| kran | that doesn't list my hardware. this does: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/78469/en-us | 21:06 |
| kran | Any way to get that 340 installed on linux?> | 21:06 |
| kran | They do give a .run file. | 21:06 |
| lynorian | kran 340 will almost surely not work with 18.10 | 21:07 |
| kran | lynorian, so my only option is to get a lubuntu that's 8-10 years old or using Windows? | 21:08 |
| wxl | !info nvidia-340 cosmic | 21:10 |
| ubottu | nvidia-340 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-340): NVIDIA binary driver - version 340.107. In component restricted, is optional. Version 340.107-0ubuntu2 (cosmic), package size 28667 kB, installed size 139972 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf) | 21:10 |
| wxl | is that not it? | 21:10 |
| lynorian | oh wow there is nvidia 340 thanks wxl | 21:10 |
| wxl | np | 21:10 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> Do not install the driver from the Nvidia site, but take the one from the Ubuntu repos | 21:11 |
| lynorian | yeah always use repos | 21:11 |
| kran | so what do I do sudo apt-get install nvidia-340? | 21:11 |
| wxl | i don't really mess with proprietary drivers too much, so i'm not a great resource with these sorts of things but there you go | 21:11 |
| lynorian | I was looking there to get the supported list of devices | 21:11 |
| wxl | there is a tool to just deal with proprietary drivers | 21:11 |
| wxl | we probably should add that to the software section of the manual | 21:12 |
| kran | wxl don't hold me in suspense | 21:12 |
| wxl | you didn't read my earlier comment did you? | 21:13 |
| lubot | <aptghetto> For the EFI question: please open a terminal and post the output of ‚sudo efibootmgr - v‘ | 21:13 |
| kran | wxl which one? you said there's a tool to deal with these drivers. didn't say what tool | 21:13 |
| wxl | no, what i said was i don't deal with proprietary drivers much so i'm not a great resource | 21:14 |
| wxl | the `ubuntu-drivers` command should do the trick | 21:15 |
| wxl | `ubuntu-drivers devices` looks like it will give you a list of the devices you have that require proprietary drivers, and which packages provide those, and where they come from | 21:15 |
| kran | sudo apt-get install nvidia-340 + reboot did the trick | 21:17 |
| kran | it's working now, thanks | 21:18 |
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