[11:37] gabrielprz was added by: gabrielprz [18:32] Hello! How can I help improve some vocabulary and fix words in "https://manual.lubuntu.me"? [18:33] hey Unlimiter you most certainly can help. we've been working on documentation on that. let me see if we've got that set up [18:34] ok doesn't look like we do [18:35] why? [18:35] been too busy with everything else :) [18:35] but i can point you in the right direction [18:35] please go ahead [18:35] oh no wait [18:36] we do! yay! [18:36] :D [18:36] it's in the code base [18:36] https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-manual/browse/master/CONTRIBUTING.md [18:36] Nice, thanks [18:36] I'll start fixing now [18:37] if you have any other questions, i'd ask at #lubuntu-devel [18:37] there's a few other contributors there [18:37] as well as lynorian who is the Documentation Lead [18:37] got it [18:38] yay more people to edit [18:39] But I don't have Linux on my PC [18:39] I guess I'll wait until I install Lubuntu [18:39] actually this will look a lot better https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-manual/browse/master/CONTRIBUTING.md?as=remarkup [18:39] you can install it in a virtual machine [18:39] the other thing you can do is actually create patches and mail them as shown at the bottom of that instructions [18:40] of course you got to know how to create patches [18:40] if you're familiar with git, it shouldn't be too difficult [18:40] yup [18:40] still you'll need to use git and shs [18:40] ssh that is [18:41] Did I say that I LOVE Lubuntu, because i do! [18:41] I read the whole manual [18:41] glad to hear it :) [18:41] It's amazing [18:42] I am really glad to hear it [18:42] Hi guys. Trying to install from a USB drive a Lubuntu install ISO put there via YUMI. Boots fine, I connect to wifi, select partition to replace, and I get "installation failed bad source source=/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs" [18:43] kran: did you check the hashes and at the boot screen check the image for defects? [18:43] This is being installed beside a Win7 installation already there. I checked the checksum of the ISO I downloaded and even removed and rewrote it to the USB drive, same result. [18:43] wxl how do I check the image for defects? [18:43] at the boot screen, select "check disc for defects" isntead of the default "start lubuntu" [18:44] checking now [18:45] wxl it flashed some acpi errors, lubuntu splash, then rebooted again [18:45] that doesn't sound right [18:45] it should end with a "no errors found, press any key to reboot" underneath the splash [18:45] and then it waits [18:45] it does not reboot itself [18:46] wxl just did it again. back to YUMI multiboot screen [18:46] sounds like a copy error [18:47] wxl it's a USB drive that has numerous systems that has been successfully used various times. Should I try another USB drive? Is there a netinstall solution since I have wifi? [18:47] I want the latest 64-bit Lubuntu [18:47] having other systems on there might be problematic [18:48] wxl you mean with YUMI? [18:48] * wxl shrugs [18:48] we don't test with yumi and i know nothing about it [18:49] wxl what's the official way to put the ISO on a USB drive so I can install it? [18:49] wxl even better: is there a way to do it over wifi? [18:49] what i do know is if the image on the usb doesn't match, bit for bit, the official image, there's a high likelihood of all sorts of problems [18:50] theoretically, you could use the mini.iso, but if you're having problems with images, you'll probably continue to have problems with images [18:50] here's a bunch of advice on the subject https://manual.lubuntu.me/1/1.2/booting_the_image.html [18:51] my personal opinion is that the linux command dd is the absolute most reliable methodology, but also the most dangerous [18:51] i have never ever had a failure with dd, but have seen problems with nearly every other tool i've used [18:52] wxl OK looks like they use Rufus [18:52] mkusb is nice because it's ultimately a front end for dd [18:53] wxl Rufus is asking ISO or DD. Which one? [18:53] i don't do windows, bub [18:54] @kran [ wxl Rufus is asking ISO or DD. Which one?], Try the default (don't remember which ist) If it doesn't work try the other [18:54] lubot OK [18:55] lubot is a bridge to Telegram. it's @HMollerCl chatting at you kran [18:55] HMollercl don't know what that means, but OK [18:56] @kran [ HMollercl don't know what that means, but OK], My 'name' in telegram [18:56] I'm on telegram, not irc [18:56] I don't know what telegram is, other than that form of communication used decades ago. [18:58] let's put it to you this way: lubot relays message from a different communication platform [18:58] lubot is a piece of software [18:58] and for your education https://duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=https%3A%2F%2Ftelegram.org%2F [19:01] seems to be working now. I guess YUMI is incompatible [19:02] wxl is Lubuntu the best lightweight system as far as being able to get support and not stressing the system too much? [19:03] kran: lubuntu is built to strike a balance between streamlined and usable. if it's light in exclusion to function, that's not good. if it's got too much function than necessary, that's not good. [19:03] wxl I've had luck with Lubuntu on laptops. Putting it on an i5 desktop now. [20:17] Hi there, I am a first time linux user and decided to use Lubuntu. I love the user interface and want to keep using it but the installation process is very confusing to me. I installed it on my hard drive using a usb boot. I got installed rEFInd and I see a "Boot EFI\ubunut\grubx64.efi" and "Boot boot\vmlinz-4.18.0-10-generic", I can only get to Lubuntu with the "boot\vmlinz.." which is the second option [20:17] of the rEFInd window. Should the "Boot EFI\ubuntu.." be working or should I find a way to change the rEFInd default boot option. I'm having a hard time understanding the situation. Thanks in advanced. [20:23] * lynorian has never used REFInd so I wish I could help [20:23] although with booting off usb you don't want it not to boot without the USB in [20:24] wasn't rEFInd for apple hardware [20:25] Thank you for your response. Yeah so I tried install linux on my older macbook and it was not booting after installing in on the computer so through forums I found rEFInd. I'm still new to this so I don't know my ways around getting this to work [20:25] eyun89: are you asking how to make lubuntu first in the boot order right? [20:27] Sort of. I no longer have macOS installed and only have those two options: "EFI" and "vmlinz". "vmlinz" is in the second order and that is the one that will boot properly. The EFI just shows a blank screen. [20:28] I read somewhere that the EFI is responsible for the boot but that is not the case for me. I'm also trying to understand the difference between those two I guess. [20:41] Lubuntu: I use a GPU that has SPDIF in headers to mix audio into the HDMI port. 2 headers are wired from the GPU pins to the motherboard pins. I tested this in a Win7 install on this system and it works fine, but lubuntu has no audio out. [20:42] I know it's not the hardware or installation, since it works in Windows 7 on this very same machine. [20:43] kran: https://manual.lubuntu.me/2/2.5/2.5.2/pulseaudio_volume_control.html does this help you at all? [20:43] you would need to select that as the output source [20:44] kran: or does your SPDIF not show up at all? [20:44] lynorian i only see Digital Output (S/PDIF) where it says port. [20:44] have you tried that S/PDIF output and is not showing up there? [20:45] * lynorian wonders if this might be a driver issue [20:45] lynorian it has always been selected, being the only option. [20:45] kran: and you are getting no sound? [20:45] lynorian i think it's a zotac 9500GT in there [20:48] kran make sure it is not muted anywhere? [20:48] lynorian yes [20:48] lynorian maybe i need to reinstall a driver? [20:49] lynorian it is an old GPU. perhaps reinstalling will help? how would I do that? [20:49] https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-to-install-a-nvidia-geforce-9500gt-673780/ [20:49] "Uninstall all the nvidia drivers and then install envy-ng" [20:51] kran: unfortanelty there is no package by that name in the repos for 18.10 at least [20:51] what version are you on? [20:52] of? [20:52] lubuntu [20:52] 18.10 64bit, downloaded it today [20:53] kran: have you not installed proprietary nvidia drivers [20:53] havent installed much of anything yet [20:53] althouhg I am not sure 9500 GT is supported still [20:54] lynorian worth a shot. what is the command? [20:54] try lsmod |grep nvidia [20:54] if it returns nothing then you are not [20:55] returns nothing [20:56] so what do I do? [20:57] kran you don't have any motherboard audio outputs on the back of your machine? [20:57] lynorian yes I do, but I need the HDMI to work, too. [20:57] leandroramos was removed by: leandroramos [21:04] kran I haven't quite figured out this solution and looks like nvidia might have had a proprietary driver but the company does not have a version of that driver that works with Lubuntu 18.10 :( [21:04] and since it is proprietary we can't really fix it or maintain it ourselves [21:05] https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/137276/en-us [21:06] that doesn't list my hardware. this does: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/78469/en-us [21:06] Any way to get that 340 installed on linux?> [21:06] They do give a .run file. [21:07] kran 340 will almost surely not work with 18.10 [21:08] lynorian, so my only option is to get a lubuntu that's 8-10 years old or using Windows? [21:10] !info nvidia-340 cosmic [21:10] nvidia-340 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-340): NVIDIA binary driver - version 340.107. In component restricted, is optional. Version 340.107-0ubuntu2 (cosmic), package size 28667 kB, installed size 139972 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf) [21:10] is that not it? [21:10] oh wow there is nvidia 340 thanks wxl [21:10] np [21:11] Do not install the driver from the Nvidia site, but take the one from the Ubuntu repos [21:11] yeah always use repos [21:11] so what do I do sudo apt-get install nvidia-340? [21:11] i don't really mess with proprietary drivers too much, so i'm not a great resource with these sorts of things but there you go [21:11] I was looking there to get the supported list of devices [21:11] there is a tool to just deal with proprietary drivers [21:12] we probably should add that to the software section of the manual [21:12] wxl don't hold me in suspense [21:13] you didn't read my earlier comment did you? [21:13] For the EFI question: please open a terminal and post the output of ‚sudo efibootmgr - v‘ [21:13] wxl which one? you said there's a tool to deal with these drivers. didn't say what tool [21:14] no, what i said was i don't deal with proprietary drivers much so i'm not a great resource [21:15] the `ubuntu-drivers` command should do the trick [21:15] `ubuntu-drivers devices` looks like it will give you a list of the devices you have that require proprietary drivers, and which packages provide those, and where they come from [21:17] sudo apt-get install nvidia-340 + reboot did the trick [21:18] it's working now, thanks