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[00:19] <lubot> <HMollerCl> has anyone expirience strange behaivour of hover over libreoffice button?
[00:20] <lubot> <kc2bez> Now that you pointed it out I do.
[00:21] <lubot> <kc2bez> I usually open my docs from the file manager.
[00:21] <lubot> <kc2bez> but i see what you are talking about.
[00:24] <lubot> <HMollerCl> so you see that the "description" of the buttons has strange behaivour?
[00:24] <lubot> <HMollerCl> description when hover
[00:25] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I have one installation that doesn't show them at all, and the buttons blink ... in another it show the "description" but blinking
[00:27] <lubot> <kc2bez> I think I see what you mean. In the launcher if I hover over a document I notice it.
[00:28] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I mean in the libreoffice application. For example, over "save as"
[00:28] <lubot> <kc2bez> Oh yeah, the buttons too. I see it.
[00:29] <lubot> <kc2bez> I think it is a LO issue, I notice it on another distro too.
[00:30] <lubot> <HMollerCl> it doesn't happen in lubuntu 18.04
[00:35] <lubot> <kc2bez> I don't have LO on my 18.04 machine, I will install it there too.
[01:17] <lubot> <kc2bez> @HMollerCl You are correct. I don't notice it in 18.04 Lubuntu. I do notice it in Fedora 29 LXQt. Kubuntu might be something to try. I have an install at work and can check it tomorrow.
[01:19] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I think @TheWendyPower also has a Kubuntu, but she might be busy with tomorrows photoshoots. Tell me how it works!
[01:19] <lubot> <kc2bez> I will let you know.
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[03:31] <lubot> vandresguzman was added by: vandresguzman
[03:38] <lubot> <vandresguzman> Hi! ... I found this group on lubuntu.me/links/ ... But I'm a bit confused. ... I'm not sure lubuntu.me is the same url I've been using before. Now I can see lubuntu.net is still right there, but they're using different sociall media accounts. ... lubuntudesktop and Lubuntu.Official.Page on facebook; lubuntudesktop on twitter (s
[03:38] <lubot> uspended) and lubuntuofficial...
[03:47] <lubot> <tsimonq2> It's a very, very long story.
[03:48] <lubot> <vandresguzman> @vandresguzman [Hi! ... I found this group on lubuntu.me/links/ ... But I'm a bit confused. ... I'm not sur …], Sorry guys! ... I can see this is not for support.
[03:48] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Lubuntu.net is unofficial and ran in a hostile way.
[03:48] <lubot> <tsimonq2> We actually do the work...
[03:48] <lubot> <tsimonq2> So the Lubuntu.me accounts are official.
[03:48] <lubot> <tsimonq2> If you need confirmation I can send you a GPG-encrypted email with the same email I use to sign uploads. :P
[03:48] <lubot> <tsimonq2> *same key
[03:49] <lubot> <vandresguzman> It is not necessary, I'll keep it going on with .me accounts.
[03:50] <lubot> <vandresguzman> Thanks for your time.
[03:50] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Thank you :)
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[05:47] <wxl> @tsimonq2: i asked before and i'll ask again: is bug 1801210 really a bug? the way my brain works, i prefer ascending rather than decending, so i'd agree with the reported, but i don't know…
[05:47] <ubot93> Bug 1801210 in pcmanfm-qt (Ubuntu) "File Manager defaults to displaying files/directories in reverse order" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1801210
[05:48] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Fwd from wxl: <wxl> @tsimonq2: do you consider this a bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm-qt/+bug/1801210
[05:48] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Fwd from tsimonq2: I don't know, @TheWendyPower, is it?
[05:48] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Fwd from TheWendyPower: Yes, yes it does....
[05:49] <lubot> <tsimonq2> Read, wxl ;)
[11:51] <lubot> <TheWendyPower> @tsimonq2 Sorry I missed the stand up yesterday. It was an absolutely crazy day and today will be far crazier. I'll try to check in, but I'll be slammed through the weekend.
[12:21] <lubot> <tsimonq2> @TheWendyPower [@tsimonq2 Sorry I missed the stand up yesterday. It was an absolutely crazy day …], No worries 👍
[13:04] <lubot> <HMollerCl> anyone else seeing strange behaivour (blinking) in libreoffice when leaving mouse over buttons?
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[13:24] <lubot> <kc2bez> @HMollerCl [anyone else seeing strange behaivour (blinking) in libreoffice when leaving mous …], I just checked my Kubuntu install and it doesn't have the issue. I have only seen the problem on LXQt so far.
[13:25] <lubot> <HMollerCl> thanks for the info. I will talk with @wxl on how to handle it.
[13:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T163: LibreOffice blinking buttons and description on hover] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T163
[13:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T163: LibreOffice blinking buttons and description on hover] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T163#3253
[13:51] <lubot> <HMollerCl> @wxl ^
[18:02] <wxl> libreoffice run on the commandline seems to complain very angrily about java not being installed, and yet libreoffice-java-common is a suggest, not a depend. anyone grok that?
[18:05] <wxl> so this libreoffice thing... could it be something with how we have theming set up?
[18:05] <wxl> or maybe some window manager thing?
[18:05] <wxl> has anyone tried to talk to the libreoffice folks?
[18:06] <wxl> in a vm i never see the blinking but i do see that the tooltips only happen some of the time
[18:08] <wxl> @HMollerCl ^
[18:09] <wxl> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/9mqmxk/question_about_libreoffice_tooltips_not_showing/
[18:18] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I will look at it
[18:19] <lubot> <HMollerCl> I haven't talk with the LibreOffice guy
[18:35] <lubot> <Wafficus> Hey this relates to the testing phase: in a vm, can I install the entirety of a Lubuntu image and save my settings each time right? Or is it better to just load it as a live image?
[18:36] <lubot> <Wafficus> I ask because I don't mind switching to the dailies but I'm wondering if I can carry all of my saved data from image to image
[18:36] <lubot> <Wafficus> Is this more of a thing for git?
[18:36] <lubot> <Wafficus> In a Windows 10 vm
[18:37] <wxl> what data do you want to save?
[19:00] <lubot> <Wafficus> Well I guess my scripts folder containing all my process and guides for Linux stuff
[19:01] <lubot> <Wafficus> I'm guessing if it's on my github just do a git pull each time right?
[19:01] <wxl> seems much more sensible
[19:01] <lubot> <Wafficus> Also images and other private documents
[19:01] <lubot> <Wafficus> Like how could you do a git for that
[19:01] <wxl> git can store binaries
[19:01] <lubot> <Wafficus> Thats one of the reasons I still keep windows is for games and private docs that can't be lost
[19:02] <lubot> <Wafficus> Otherwise I'd love everything to follow me regardless
[19:02] <lubot> <Wafficus> So binaries contain all of my data including files or just programs?
[19:02] <wxl> anything you want
[19:02] <wxl> of course at some point it gets silly using git for 2TB of data
[19:03] <wxl> at that point, you might want to just put it on an external usb
[19:04] <lubot> <Wafficus> True I'm more of thinking of like private files and games.
[19:04] <lubot> <Wafficus> Interesting
[19:05] <lubot> <Wafficus> But you see why I ask though right?
[19:05] <wxl> i wouldn't bother with any of that for testing
[19:05] <lubot> <Wafficus> It's a weird non windows question since linux users hop all the time
[19:05] <lubot> <Wafficus> Yeah
[19:05] <wxl> SOME linux users hop distros
[19:05] <lubot> <Wafficus> I plan on getting a separate hard drive just for vms
[19:05] <wxl> i think it's a rather ridiculous practice
[19:05] <lubot> <Wafficus> Can the installation be remembered with vms though ?
[19:06] <lubot> <Wafficus> Like if I install it inside the vm?
[19:06] <lubot> <Wafficus> I only ask cause I only ran live images and never saved stuff
[19:06] <wxl> the virtual machine is... a.. virtual.. machine
[19:06] <lubot> <Wafficus> Also what do you feel about adding a selenium component to automate our images wxl?
[19:06] <lubot> <Wafficus> True
[19:06] <wxl> so if you install, you have an installation ona  virtual machine
[19:06] <lubot> <Wafficus> Gotcha so it does then
[19:06] <wxl> if you don't install, you do not have an installation on a virtual machine
[19:07] <wxl> "virtual machine" can actually be taken literally
[19:07] <lubot> <Wafficus> Gotcha so for all intensive purposes it persists
[19:08] <lubot> <Wafficus> As if you're booting a real machine it remembers your setting
[19:08] <wxl> i'm not sure how selenium is relevant. it is geared towards for web development
[19:08] <lubot> <Wafficus> Settings
[19:08] <lubot> <Wafficus> But think of all the bugs that we could find though
[19:08] <lubot> <Wafficus> I only ask cause the devs at work do it
[19:08] <lubot> <Wafficus> I know that's basically a web app product
[19:08] <lubot> <Wafficus> But maybe we could apply the same ideas
[19:08] <wxl> then it's outside of our domain
[19:09] <lubot> <Wafficus> But what if I find a way we could use selenium for our project ?
[19:09] <wxl> as far as i know the only value it has is that it allows you to see how one app would work across many platforms (browsers)
[19:09] <wxl> in our case, we really only have two platforms (architectures)
[19:10] <wxl> and to be completely honest, one of them is doomed to disappear sooner than later
[19:10] <wxl> so i don't see the value at all
[19:11] <lubot> <HMollerCl> Afaik selenium is like a higher level webscraping
[19:12] <wxl> if you want automation, there is automatic testing http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html
[19:50] <lubot> <Wafficus> Thats great
[19:51] <lubot> <Wafficus> Maybe we can host this on tester machines and incorporate it to work on a daily image
[19:51] <lubot> <Wafficus> And have a human look at any specific issues it finds
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