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sarnoldoh. ew.00:00
JanCthere are some in the APT repositories too, of course, but it shows all those in the GNOME shell extension repository too00:02
JanCbut really, why are JS extensions allowed to segfault the shell? you'd think the main reason to use JS is to avoid that...00:09
jbichasarnold: yeah Add-ons > Shell Extensions pulls directly from https://extensions.gnome.org/ & doesn't include .deb packaged extensions00:10
sarnoldthanks jbicha00:11
JanC(BTW: I suspect it's the indicator extension (which is installed by default) causing the crashes...)00:32
jbichaJanC: what's the basis for your suspicion? :)00:34
jbichaanyway, if you have logs or something, please file a bug00:38
JanCthe basis is that I launched an application that puts an icon there the last time it crashed, and I think that have happened the time before it too (but I wasn't really paying attention then)00:40
JanCI'll have to go look how I can find gnome shell logs then...00:42
didrocksgood morning05:50
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jibelSalut didrocks and good morning everyone07:03
didrockssalut jibel !07:10
dufluSalut jibel, didrocks07:30
jibelHi duflu07:31
didrockshey duflu07:32
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seb128hey again desktopers08:52
seb128going to drop offline for ~45min, going to a coworking space with some GNOME upstream/RH people08:52
Laneyhey ho09:02
dufluHi seb128, Laney09:02
Laneyhappy friday duflu09:14
LaneyI trust you'll be In Da Club in approximately 1 hour09:15
dufluI never left09:16
dufluWho wants another drink?09:16
Laney🍸09:20
dufluReminds me of the first startup I joined. Friday lunchtime was the end of the day09:21
LaneySounds nice in and of itself09:29
LaneyUnless you end up working more at other times09:29
dufluLaney, should MRs to salsa add changelog info?09:33
dufluWell the only other one right now does, so assuming yet09:35
duflu*yes09:35
LaneyPeople do it differently. When it's *my* changes I usually don't, and use gbp dch when preparing the final upload.09:35
LaneyI don't think the GNOME team has a general policy on it09:35
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seb128& back online from co-working space!10:05
seb128how is friday going around here?10:05
dufluHi seb12810:17
dufluBye seb12810:17
dufluNight10:18
Laneyhey seb12810:18
Laneybit cold today, storm might be coming :-o10:18
Laneyhow's the place? who are you with?10:18
seb128hey Laney10:49
seb128Laney, it's a very cool hackerspace, https://revspace.nl/Main_Page10:50
seb128they have people doing electronic hacks, 3d printing, working wood, etc etc etc :)10:51
seb128I'm with carlos and hans and another guy from RH who does more toolchain&co type of things10:53
Laneynice!10:57
LaneyI went to the hackspace near us a couple of weeks ago10:57
Laneylot of cool stuff that I wouldn't know how to use :P10:57
seb128Laney, so, that airplaine mode seems a double key event issue, at least for me on the inspiron, can you try on your xps if it does the same?12:23
Laneyhow?12:23
seb128Laney, basically with the xkeyboard-config update if you would "sudo evemu-record", pick the keyboard12:23
seb128press the key and see if you get double events when pressing the key12:24
Laneyok, I need to restart I guess :<12:24
seb128if you reverted from the SRU package yes12:24
seb128can be later if you don't want to restart now12:25
seb128I can also put the instruction in the launchpad bug so you do when it's convenient for you12:25
Laneywhich bug is that?12:28
Laneynot https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/174089412:28
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1740894 in xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu Cosmic) "KEY_RFKILL is not passed to userspace" [Low,Fix committed]12:28
seb128yes, that's this one12:28
seb128well that's the xkeyboard-config SRU one that leads to the problem12:29
seb128I'm going to open a systemd upstream bug for the issue on inspiron12:29
seb128Hans wanted debug input from a xps to make sure the issue was the same12:29
LaneyI mean I don't see instructions on there12:29
seb128right, I said "I can also put the instructions..."12:30
Laneyoh ok12:30
seb128I didn't do that yet :p12:30
Laneyyes please12:30
Laneyyou probably want it from that guy too12:30
Laneyseb128: https://paste.debian.net/1051079/12:36
seb128Laney, done, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1740894/comments/25 including "test a fix"12:38
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1740894 in xkeyboard-config (Ubuntu Cosmic) "KEY_RFKILL is not passed to userspace" [Low,Fix committed]12:38
LaneyI think that broke airplane mode for me12:43
Laneyno it didn't, but I don't see the osd now for some reason12:44
Laneynow it looks like https://paste.debian.net/1051083/12:46
seb128hum12:48
seb128Laney, do you have a "DELL Wirless hotkeys" or such input device listed in evemu-record?12:49
seb128if so what events does that list now?12:49
LaneyWMI hotkeys12:49
Laneyis it that?12:49
seb128no12:49
Laneythen no12:49
seb128k, so I guess the situation is different on the XPS :/12:50
seb128let me check with Hans12:50
Laneyit was never broken for me12:50
seb128I though you said yesterday that with the xkeyboard-config SRU you couldn't re-enable it either12:50
seb128I mean getting off of airplane mode with the binding12:51
Laneyoh yeah12:51
Laneywell I'm online now so it seems to be ok today?!?!?!?!?!12:51
Laneymaybe I messed something up12:51
seb128you still have the xkeyboard-config SRU version right?12:51
Laneyxkb-data:12:52
Laney  Installed: 2.23.1-1ubuntu1.18.10.112:52
seb128yes12:52
Laneyah, that's a fake statement to make though since I'm connected through a cable atm12:53
Laneyone second12:53
Laneyok just got out of airplane mode12:54
Laneyon wifi12:55
Laneythat's still with the hwdb change, let me revert that now12:55
Laneyback again12:56
Laneyprobably screwed something up yesterday12:56
seb128well, your issue seems different, I misread the evemu record, your only have one event by press12:56
Laney"E: KEYBOARD_KEY_88=!wlan" is what it has without that change btw12:56
seb128it's key press/release12:57
Laneynot sure any more that I have an issue12:57
seb128k12:57
seb128thx for testing12:57
Laneyexcept that the hwdb thing changes what gnome-shell shows in some way12:57
seb128let's see from those users on the bug12:57
seb128right12:57
LaneyI've no clue what it means or does12:57
seb128well on the inspiron there is a "DELL Wireless hotkeys" input device12:58
LaneyFFS the default cursor speed in the X session is too slooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww12:58
seb128so the keyboard and that special device both generate events12:58
seb128that rules made it tell generate events as coming from an unknown key on the keyboard12:58
Laneyah12:59
Laneyso for me then something else other than g-s-d was handling rfkill or something?12:59
seb128yes, likely kernel/hardware level13:00
seb128which is why you didn't get the osd either, it took it out from the gsd layer13:00
Laneythat makes sense13:00
Laneyyou see it on the inspiron though?13:01
Laneyoh yeah the SRU totally makes airplane mode worse on the inspiron here13:14
seb128right (sorry we were making tostis so afk)13:19
seb128your inspiron is the same model than mine? (3138)13:19
Laneyyeh13:21
Laneymmm tostis13:22
* Laney is hungry13:22
seb128:)13:22
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seb128k, calling it a day/week (going to work a bit offline still during the half an hour tram back)16:40
seb128have a nice w.e!16:40
jbichaaw, just missed him16:41
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Laneyhappy weekend18:19
* Laney waves18:19

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