[00:00] <sarnold> oh. ew.
[00:02] <JanC> there are some in the APT repositories too, of course, but it shows all those in the GNOME shell extension repository too
[00:09] <JanC> but really, why are JS extensions allowed to segfault the shell? you'd think the main reason to use JS is to avoid that...
[00:10] <jbicha> sarnold: yeah Add-ons > Shell Extensions pulls directly from https://extensions.gnome.org/ & doesn't include .deb packaged extensions
[00:11] <sarnold> thanks jbicha
[00:32] <JanC> (BTW: I suspect it's the indicator extension (which is installed by default) causing the crashes...)
[00:34] <jbicha> JanC: what's the basis for your suspicion? :)
[00:38] <jbicha> anyway, if you have logs or something, please file a bug
[00:40] <JanC> the basis is that I launched an application that puts an icon there the last time it crashed, and I think that have happened the time before it too (but I wasn't really paying attention then)
[00:42] <JanC> I'll have to go look how I can find gnome shell logs then...
[05:50] <didrocks> good morning
[07:03] <jibel> Salut didrocks and good morning everyone
[07:10] <didrocks> salut jibel !
[07:30] <duflu> Salut jibel, didrocks
[07:31] <jibel> Hi duflu
[07:32] <didrocks> hey duflu
[08:52] <seb128> hey again desktopers
[08:52] <seb128> going to drop offline for ~45min, going to a coworking space with some GNOME upstream/RH people
[09:02] <Laney> hey ho
[09:02] <duflu> Hi seb128, Laney
[09:14] <Laney> happy friday duflu
[09:15] <Laney> I trust you'll be In Da Club in approximately 1 hour
[09:16] <duflu> I never left
[09:16] <duflu> Who wants another drink?
[09:20] <Laney> 🍸
[09:21] <duflu> Reminds me of the first startup I joined. Friday lunchtime was the end of the day
[09:29] <Laney> Sounds nice in and of itself
[09:29] <Laney> Unless you end up working more at other times
[09:33] <duflu> Laney, should MRs to salsa add changelog info?
[09:35] <duflu> Well the only other one right now does, so assuming yet
[09:35] <duflu> *yes
[09:35] <Laney> People do it differently. When it's *my* changes I usually don't, and use gbp dch when preparing the final upload.
[09:35] <Laney> I don't think the GNOME team has a general policy on it
[10:05] <seb128> & back online from co-working space!
[10:05] <seb128> how is friday going around here?
[10:17] <duflu> Hi seb128
[10:17] <duflu> Bye seb128
[10:18] <duflu> Night
[10:18] <Laney> hey seb128
[10:18] <Laney> bit cold today, storm might be coming :-o
[10:18] <Laney> how's the place? who are you with?
[10:49] <seb128> hey Laney
[10:50] <seb128> Laney, it's a very cool hackerspace, https://revspace.nl/Main_Page
[10:51] <seb128> they have people doing electronic hacks, 3d printing, working wood, etc etc etc :)
[10:53] <seb128> I'm with carlos and hans and another guy from RH who does more toolchain&co type of things
[10:57] <Laney> nice!
[10:57] <Laney> I went to the hackspace near us a couple of weeks ago
[10:57] <Laney> lot of cool stuff that I wouldn't know how to use :P
[12:23] <seb128> Laney, so, that airplaine mode seems a double key event issue, at least for me on the inspiron, can you try on your xps if it does the same?
[12:23] <Laney> how?
[12:23] <seb128> Laney, basically with the xkeyboard-config update if you would "sudo evemu-record", pick the keyboard
[12:24] <seb128> press the key and see if you get double events when pressing the key
[12:24] <Laney> ok, I need to restart I guess :<
[12:24] <seb128> if you reverted from the SRU package yes
[12:25] <seb128> can be later if you don't want to restart now
[12:25] <seb128> I can also put the instruction in the launchpad bug so you do when it's convenient for you
[12:28] <Laney> which bug is that?
[12:28] <Laney> not https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1740894
[12:28] <seb128> yes, that's this one
[12:29] <seb128> well that's the xkeyboard-config SRU one that leads to the problem
[12:29] <seb128> I'm going to open a systemd upstream bug for the issue on inspiron
[12:29] <seb128> Hans wanted debug input from a xps to make sure the issue was the same
[12:29] <Laney> I mean I don't see instructions on there
[12:30] <seb128> right, I said "I can also put the instructions..."
[12:30] <Laney> oh ok
[12:30] <seb128> I didn't do that yet :p
[12:30] <Laney> yes please
[12:30] <Laney> you probably want it from that guy too
[12:36] <Laney> seb128: https://paste.debian.net/1051079/
[12:38] <seb128> Laney, done, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/1740894/comments/25 including "test a fix"
[12:43] <Laney> I think that broke airplane mode for me
[12:44] <Laney> no it didn't, but I don't see the osd now for some reason
[12:46] <Laney> now it looks like https://paste.debian.net/1051083/
[12:48] <seb128> hum
[12:49] <seb128> Laney, do you have a "DELL Wirless hotkeys" or such input device listed in evemu-record?
[12:49] <seb128> if so what events does that list now?
[12:49] <Laney> WMI hotkeys
[12:49] <Laney> is it that?
[12:49] <seb128> no
[12:49] <Laney> then no
[12:50] <seb128> k, so I guess the situation is different on the XPS :/
[12:50] <seb128> let me check with Hans
[12:50] <Laney> it was never broken for me
[12:50] <seb128> I though you said yesterday that with the xkeyboard-config SRU you couldn't re-enable it either
[12:51] <seb128> I mean getting off of airplane mode with the binding
[12:51] <Laney> oh yeah
[12:51] <Laney> well I'm online now so it seems to be ok today?!?!?!?!?!
[12:51] <Laney> maybe I messed something up
[12:51] <seb128> you still have the xkeyboard-config SRU version right?
[12:52] <Laney> xkb-data:
[12:52] <Laney>   Installed: 2.23.1-1ubuntu1.18.10.1
[12:52] <seb128> yes
[12:53] <Laney> ah, that's a fake statement to make though since I'm connected through a cable atm
[12:53] <Laney> one second
[12:54] <Laney> ok just got out of airplane mode
[12:55] <Laney> on wifi
[12:55] <Laney> that's still with the hwdb change, let me revert that now
[12:56] <Laney> back again
[12:56] <Laney> probably screwed something up yesterday
[12:56] <seb128> well, your issue seems different, I misread the evemu record, your only have one event by press
[12:56] <Laney> "E: KEYBOARD_KEY_88=!wlan" is what it has without that change btw
[12:57] <seb128> it's key press/release
[12:57] <Laney> not sure any more that I have an issue
[12:57] <seb128> k
[12:57] <seb128> thx for testing
[12:57] <Laney> except that the hwdb thing changes what gnome-shell shows in some way
[12:57] <seb128> let's see from those users on the bug
[12:57] <seb128> right
[12:57] <Laney> I've no clue what it means or does
[12:58] <seb128> well on the inspiron there is a "DELL Wireless hotkeys" input device
[12:58] <Laney> FFS the default cursor speed in the X session is too slooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwww
[12:58] <seb128> so the keyboard and that special device both generate events
[12:58] <seb128> that rules made it tell generate events as coming from an unknown key on the keyboard
[12:59] <Laney> ah
[12:59] <Laney> so for me then something else other than g-s-d was handling rfkill or something?
[13:00] <seb128> yes, likely kernel/hardware level
[13:00] <seb128> which is why you didn't get the osd either, it took it out from the gsd layer
[13:00] <Laney> that makes sense
[13:01] <Laney> you see it on the inspiron though?
[13:14] <Laney> oh yeah the SRU totally makes airplane mode worse on the inspiron here
[13:19] <seb128> right (sorry we were making tostis so afk)
[13:19] <seb128> your inspiron is the same model than mine? (3138)
[13:21] <Laney> yeh
[13:22] <Laney> mmm tostis
[13:22]  * Laney is hungry
[13:22] <seb128> :)
[16:40] <seb128> k, calling it a day/week (going to work a bit offline still during the half an hour tram back)
[16:40] <seb128> have a nice w.e!
[16:41] <jbicha> aw, just missed him
[18:19] <Laney> happy weekend
[18:19]  * Laney waves