[01:53] <keithzg[m]> Hmmm, I wonder why GUI performance on my one machine is so terribly slow now (like, really painfully; the launcher takes nearly a full second to show, for instance).
[01:54] <keithzg[m]> Well, I was planning on getting the newer amdgpu driver on this 18.04 machine for the sake of Steam Play anyways, I guess I'll see if *that* fixes it, hah
 Hello Rik! @acheronuk Update: The keyboard not functioning at times in 18.10, that I previously mentioned, appears to happen after installing software - perhaps only .debs too.
[04:27] <Quantos> Which keyboard is it?
 @Quantos, After installing a deb in 18.10 the keyboard temporarily looses input. Typing does not work. It seems to come good after 5 minutes - or a reboot. This did not happen before upgrading from 18:04. Keyboard? - whatever the Dell Precision 5520 uses! ?
 Fwd from iprakash: https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/11/09/app-sales-nov-09-2018/
 @Anarchotaoist, I can't see how installing debs could possibly do that
 @acheronuk, That is what I thought, but it seems to be a pattern nonetheless!
[10:16] <Quantos> Try a different keyboard
[10:17] <Quantos> Try a different USB port too
 @Quantos, FYI, the Dell Precision 5520 is a latop not desktop. I am using the in-built laptop keyboard. I do not have another keyboard nor intend on getting one -especially for a newish (5 month old) high end laptop that came configured and pre-installed with Linux. The keyboard works flawlessly and beautifully every time - except after installing a deb -and only on 18.10- as crazy as that sounds! 🤷‍♂️
[10:41] <Quantos> So?
[10:41] <Quantos> Connect a seperate keyboard to it
[10:41] <Quantos> Try that
[10:41] <Quantos> It's called troubleshooting
[10:42] <Quantos> Why are you running 18.10 instead of 18.04?
[10:44] <Quantos> 18.10 isn't a stable release
[10:47] <acheronuk> 18.10 is the latest stable release
[10:47] <Quantos> That's not a stable release
[10:47] <acheronuk> Yes, it is. 19.04 is the dev release
[10:48] <Quantos> Sigh, you don't know what you're referring to
[10:48] <acheronuk> LOL. I do
[10:48] <Quantos> A 'stable' release is one that's slated for LTS
[10:48] <Quantos> No, you sadly don't know what you're talking about
[10:49] <Quantos> I've been running Linux since SuSE 2
[10:49] <acheronuk> no, that is your own personally chosen definition.
[10:49] <Quantos> No
[10:51] <Quantos> Stable
[10:51] <Quantos>     After each mainline kernel is released, it is considered "stable." Any bug fixes for a stable kernel are backported from the mainline tree and applied by a designated stable kernel maintainer. There are usually only a few bugfix kernel releases until next mainline kernel becomes available -- unless it is designated a "longterm maintenance kernel." Stable kernel updates are released on as-needed basis, usually once a week.
[10:52] <Quantos> It has nothing to do with whether it runs stable or not
[10:53] <acheronuk> kernel stable release != ubuntu stable release
[10:53] <Quantos> 18.10 is not a stable release
[10:53] <Quantos> Learn to comprehend what you read
[10:54] <acheronuk> it is. please stop posting misinformation in the channel
[10:54] <Quantos> No it isn't
[10:54] <Quantos> And it's not misinformation, the definition doesn't fit it
[10:55] <Quantos> You must be a programmer
[10:55] <acheronuk> the definition is nothing to do with ubuntu distro releases
[10:55] <Quantos> Oh right
[10:55] <Quantos> So the definition just floats on magical currents of air somewhere?
[10:56] <acheronuk> Ubuntu stable releases are every six months. one of those every 2 years is long term support.
[10:56] <Quantos> No they aren't
[10:57] <Quantos> Those are dev releases
[10:57] <Quantos> Programmers, wow
[10:57] <acheronuk> no, with respect, they are not.
[10:57] <Quantos> LOL
[10:57] <Quantos> Whatever, pull your hat back down
[10:59] <Quantos> The beta of the Cosmic Cuttlefish (to become 18.10) has now been released, and is available for download at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/18.10/beta/
[10:59] <Quantos> This milestone features images for Kubuntu and other Ubuntu flavours.
[10:59] <Quantos> Pre-releases of the Cosmic Cuttlefish are not encouraged for:
[10:59] <Quantos> * Anyone needing a stable system
[10:59] <Quantos> * Anyone who is not comfortable running into occasional, even frequent breakage.
[10:59] <Quantos> They are, however, recommended for:
[11:02] <acheronuk> https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-18-10-is-released-today/
[11:02] <acheronuk> 18.10 is released as final and stable
[11:02] <Quantos> Whatever, you have no clue
[11:03] <Quantos> Dev releases are not called stable
[11:03] <acheronuk> Seeing as I released it, I think I do
[11:03] <Quantos> They may run stable
[11:03] <Quantos> That does not make them stable
[11:03] <Quantos> This is a word in the English language that has more than one definition
[11:04] <Quantos> Wow
[11:04]  * Quantos goes back to eating gummies and ice cream
[11:04] <Quantos> Would you like a bowl?
[11:08] <Quantos> acheronuk- I wasn't insulting your work, I'm not saying that the software doesn't run stable
[11:09] <Quantos> Stable is a release that you don't lose support on every few months
[11:10] <Quantos> I might be showing my age and using an antiquated definition, but that is what I meant
[14:45] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:46] <TheFerenOSDev> Hi
[14:47] <BluesKaj> hi TheFerenOSDev
[14:48] <Alexfrench> hi
[14:49] <TheFerenOSDev> So, is anyone regarding Kubuntu Development online? Just that I made a thing to basically make an Initial Setup screen for Plasma, minus the actual initial setup window (basically GNOME Initial Setup, minus the window itself, but using Plasma), and I was wondering if they would maybe be interested in it...
[14:54] <acheronuk> TheFerenOSDev: I will try to have a look at it sometime, or pass it to someone who can. thanks
[14:56] <TheFerenOSDev> If anyone is then interested in it, though, guess I will drop a link to it, just know that is is flawed in a few parts, and it NEEDS SDDM in its current form... https://github.com/feren-OS/Feren-PoC-Initial-Setup-Shell
[14:57] <BluesKaj> TheFerenOSDev, yeah, you could join #kubunru-devel  with that development
[14:59] <TheFerenOSDev> I think that was spelt incorrectly, do you mean #kubuntu-devel ?
[15:06] <BluesKaj> TheFerenOSDev, yes, my mistake
[15:13] <n0yd> Hi, does the kubuntu installer or at least the live cd portion which you can install from, do they have onscreen keyboard? Ispilled ramen on the laptop so keyboard only has 2 working keys, and touchscreen aint working right either
[15:15] <n0yd> sorry for ad/slow typing, im using win10 on screen keyboard. Once i install kubuntu i have a better solution for keyboatd which involves using a android device as a keyboard
[15:16] <n0yd> so as long as the install has pn screen kbd, i should be fine
[15:16] <n0yd> some insight would appreciated
[15:22] <Quantos> Do you have a USB keyboard that you can connect?
[15:23] <Quantos> The salt in the ramen probably isn't doing your motherboard any favours either
[15:25] <Quantos> Hehe, almost typed flavours
[18:08] <crimson_king> KDE printer settings doesn't offer HPLIP option to add printer.
[18:08] <crimson_king> Kubuntu 18.10
[18:09] <crimson_king> hplip is installed. On the other hand, I also have Ubuntu MATE 18.10, which has system-config-printer (GTK) and it works as expected
[19:12] <TheFerenOSDev> TBH I've also had issues with the Plasma Printer Manager, too... ended up installing and patching 'system-config-printer' to make it visible in the Apps Menu and use that instead...