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xdruppion installation, does hostname need to be all lowercase?02:56
mchasardhi07:14
mchasardi can't no more see my speaker bluetooth under bluetotth devil assistant07:14
mchasardits a jbl go speaker07:15
mchasardan idea ?07:15
mchasardhi again07:44
lubot<JyotiGomes> Hi, I'm trying to do a manual installation of Lubuntu 18.10 and I'm not sure if I should leave an EFI partition of 512 MB or 1024 MB. I saw in the Lubuntu installation manual that it is best to leave about 1 GB for EFI. What do you advise me? The laptop is an HP Stream with only a 32 GB MMC card as disk.12:18
lubot<aptghetto> No, 1024 MiB is normally too much. Dualboot with Windows?12:27
lubot<JyotiGomes> No, just Lubuntu 18.1012:28
lubot<JyotiGomes> I also thougt that 1024 mb is to much. I asked bkz i have seen this in the Lubuntu manual12:29
lubot<aptghetto> Then use just 100 MiB. The EFI partition normally contains only the bootloaders (some MiB).12:30
lubot<JyotiGomes> Here: https://docs.lubuntu.net/lubuntu_installation12:31
lubot<JyotiGomes> (Photo, 720x1280) https://i.imgur.com/UpgucDS.jpg12:31
lubot<aptghetto> The official Lubuntu page is https://lubuntu.me12:34
lubot<tsimonq2> @JyotiGomes [Here: https://docs.lubuntu.net/lubuntu_installation], You mean manual.lubuntu.me right?15:36
lubot<tsimonq2> Those docs are unofficial and broken.15:36
lubot<JyotiGomes> 👍15:44
lubot<tsimonq2> @tsimonq2 [Those docs are unofficial and broken.], (to clarify, I'm talking about the docs.lubuntu.net ones)15:48
lubot<N0um3n0> @tsimonq2 [(to clarify, I'm talking about the docs.lubuntu.net ones)], Can we start with  https://translate.lubuntu.me ?17:01
lubot<tsimonq2> Not yet17:01
lubot<N0um3n0> Ok17:03
lubot<N0um3n0> Tx17:03
on3pkSo, I just had something weird happen.  I am on a liveusb browsing the web and a pixilated (think 90s NES graphics) message scrolls across the screen.  Is that a lubuntu way of saying something broke?20:56
wxlon3pk: could be all sorts of things but it's not an intentional part of lubuntu20:58
on3pkSorry, quassel kept crashing.  And I tried to use the webchat feature on freenode.net, but, uh, I couldn't pass the captcha.21:08
wxldid you get the message?21:08
on3pkthat it wasn't part of lubuntu?  Yes, I did see that21:08
wxlok21:09
on3pkit might've been an ad, I'm used to running adblock, but it isn't installed on a livecd.21:09
* wxl shrugs21:10
on3pkI'm not using lubuntu right now, but when I was using it there was a lot of screen flickering.  Is there a way to tell what graphics driver I'm using and how to change it?  I've noticed this across all "modern" ubuntu releases, so lubuntu isn't alone I guess...21:11
wxllspci21:11
wxlyou might want to install the proprietary drivers21:11
wxlor if you have something super old, you might want to search for how to tweak it21:12
on3pkYeah, I have something from several years ago21:12
on3pkso I might need to do research21:12
wxlyep21:12
wxlthe unfortunate thing is that it's often really hard for general support to help.. unless they've had experience with that same hardware21:13
on3pkwell tbh I think the best solution is just to get something more modern, rather than try to continually tweak old hardware. heh...21:14
on3pkanyway, thanks for your help21:14
wxlnp21:14
xdruppishould i use lubuntu 18.10 or LTS?21:28
wxlxdruppi: i'd advise 18.10. there's a major change in the system between the two and upgrading from 18.04 will be more difficult than upgrading from 18.10.21:29
xdruppiwxl: i am using lubuntu as my distro for learning linux through virtual machine21:30
xdruppiwxl: i just want to have little to no issues with it21:30
wxlthere's always issues. always.21:30
wxlwith everything.21:30
wxlincluding windows and os x.21:30
xdruppiwxl: but LXQT is very tempting21:30
wxland android and ios.21:30
wxland every other piece of software out there, open source and proprietary.21:31
xdruppiwxl: I'll go for 18.1021:31
xdruppiby the way, what happened with the .net domain of lubuntu?21:32
wxlit's never been under the control of the lubuntu team21:32
wxlit's essentially a fan site21:32
wxlcompletely and totally unofficial21:32
xdruppireally?21:32
xdruppiisnt that unsafe?21:32
wxlyep21:33
wxldefine unsafe?21:33
xdruppilubuntu is shared but altered21:33
xdruppiand since its not official...21:33
wxlfor what it's worth the downloads they offer are all from the our repos21:33
xdruppiit's odd though, why would someone make a fan site of lubuntu21:34
xdruppiwhy is lubuntu switching to LXQt?22:00
wxlamong other reasons: because lxde development has slowed to a wee trickle22:00
xdruppisorry, what do you mean "wee trickle"?22:01
xdruppican't understand22:01
wxlmeaning it's not happening very much at all22:01
xdruppiso LXDE has stopped development?22:01
wxlit's not fair to say that it's been abandoned or that it's not being developed at all, but it's so slow as to be effectively stalled22:02
xdruppiwhen did this start?22:02
wxlwhen a segment of the devs got sick of gtk requirements (and the fact that gtk3 incompatibility was a real hurdle to overcome) and started working on a qt version22:03
wxland with this came some fresh ways of thinking. i would call lxqt much more approachable, complete, pretty, modern, usable, functional22:03
wxlbasically it's better in every regard22:03
xdruppidont know much about gtk history, but i sort of understand the issue22:04
xdruppiwxl do you use lubuntu yourself?22:04
wxlabsolutely22:05
xdruppiis it a preference or a necessity due to hardware limitations?22:05
wxloriginally the latter, now the former22:06
xdruppihaha that's pretty cool22:06
xdruppiby the way, can you recommend me a irc client? im using freenode web irc right now22:07
wxlwell you're going to find my opinion rather biased22:07
xdruppidon't worry, i dont know much about irc22:08
wxli got started on irc before graphical clients were a thing and i used remote unix shells i telnetted to. that said, it's a terminal based client for me: irssi22:08
xdruppionly terminal chat i ever attempted to use is WeeChat22:10
wxlmore or less the same22:10
xdruppiim a shameless newbie22:10
xdruppialright, thanks for your help22:11
wxlnp22:12
xdruppiwxl, sorry to bother you again22:18
xdruppiis there any naming convetion for hosts?22:18
wxlin what context?22:18
xdruppifor example, should i use all lowercase characters only?22:18
xdruppii cant find anything about it on google22:19
wxlagain i don't know your context but linux is in general case sensitive22:19
xdruppiwhen i install lubuntu itll ask me to name the device/host/computer22:19
xdruppiis there any convetions?22:19
wxloh the hostname.. yeah, you can be pretty general. no spaces, though22:20
xdruppisounds fair enough22:20
wxlthink of it like a domain name22:21
wxlyou can just call it foo, but you could also call it foo.bar22:21
xdruppiin that case i think i should use only lowercase letters22:21
xdruppiseems more appropriate/practical22:22
wxlyou might want to read the hostname man page (`man hostname`) if you want to dig deeper on the subject22:22
wxl(which involves fqdn/dns)22:23
xdruppiwxl i doubt i will ever encounter a situation that requires knowledge of that, but i like to follow general conventions22:23
xdruppiso i'll check it out22:23
wxlhttp://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1178.html22:23
wxlthat's, i guess, the "official" convention22:23
wxlhere's some alternately interesting, useful, funny, and frustrating suggestions https://serverfault.com/questions/17274/naming-conventions22:24
xdruppihaha thank you22:24
wxlnp22:24

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