[02:56] on installation, does hostname need to be all lowercase? [07:14] hi [07:14] i can't no more see my speaker bluetooth under bluetotth devil assistant [07:15] its a jbl go speaker [07:15] an idea ? [07:44] hi again [12:18] Hi, I'm trying to do a manual installation of Lubuntu 18.10 and I'm not sure if I should leave an EFI partition of 512 MB or 1024 MB. I saw in the Lubuntu installation manual that it is best to leave about 1 GB for EFI. What do you advise me? The laptop is an HP Stream with only a 32 GB MMC card as disk. [12:27] No, 1024 MiB is normally too much. Dualboot with Windows? [12:28] No, just Lubuntu 18.10 [12:29] I also thougt that 1024 mb is to much. I asked bkz i have seen this in the Lubuntu manual [12:30] Then use just 100 MiB. The EFI partition normally contains only the bootloaders (some MiB). [12:31] Here: https://docs.lubuntu.net/lubuntu_installation [12:31] (Photo, 720x1280) https://i.imgur.com/UpgucDS.jpg [12:34] The official Lubuntu page is https://lubuntu.me [15:36] @JyotiGomes [Here: https://docs.lubuntu.net/lubuntu_installation], You mean manual.lubuntu.me right? [15:36] Those docs are unofficial and broken. [15:44] 👍 [15:48] @tsimonq2 [Those docs are unofficial and broken.], (to clarify, I'm talking about the docs.lubuntu.net ones) [17:01] @tsimonq2 [(to clarify, I'm talking about the docs.lubuntu.net ones)], Can we start with https://translate.lubuntu.me ? [17:01] Not yet [17:03] Ok [17:03] Tx [20:56] So, I just had something weird happen. I am on a liveusb browsing the web and a pixilated (think 90s NES graphics) message scrolls across the screen. Is that a lubuntu way of saying something broke? [20:58] on3pk: could be all sorts of things but it's not an intentional part of lubuntu [21:08] Sorry, quassel kept crashing. And I tried to use the webchat feature on freenode.net, but, uh, I couldn't pass the captcha. [21:08] did you get the message? [21:08] that it wasn't part of lubuntu? Yes, I did see that [21:09] ok [21:09] it might've been an ad, I'm used to running adblock, but it isn't installed on a livecd. [21:10] * wxl shrugs [21:11] I'm not using lubuntu right now, but when I was using it there was a lot of screen flickering. Is there a way to tell what graphics driver I'm using and how to change it? I've noticed this across all "modern" ubuntu releases, so lubuntu isn't alone I guess... [21:11] lspci [21:11] you might want to install the proprietary drivers [21:12] or if you have something super old, you might want to search for how to tweak it [21:12] Yeah, I have something from several years ago [21:12] so I might need to do research [21:12] yep [21:13] the unfortunate thing is that it's often really hard for general support to help.. unless they've had experience with that same hardware [21:14] well tbh I think the best solution is just to get something more modern, rather than try to continually tweak old hardware. heh... [21:14] anyway, thanks for your help [21:14] np [21:28] should i use lubuntu 18.10 or LTS? [21:29] xdruppi: i'd advise 18.10. there's a major change in the system between the two and upgrading from 18.04 will be more difficult than upgrading from 18.10. [21:30] wxl: i am using lubuntu as my distro for learning linux through virtual machine [21:30] wxl: i just want to have little to no issues with it [21:30] there's always issues. always. [21:30] with everything. [21:30] including windows and os x. [21:30] wxl: but LXQT is very tempting [21:30] and android and ios. [21:31] and every other piece of software out there, open source and proprietary. [21:31] wxl: I'll go for 18.10 [21:32] by the way, what happened with the .net domain of lubuntu? [21:32] it's never been under the control of the lubuntu team [21:32] it's essentially a fan site [21:32] completely and totally unofficial [21:32] really? [21:32] isnt that unsafe? [21:33] yep [21:33] define unsafe? [21:33] lubuntu is shared but altered [21:33] and since its not official... [21:33] for what it's worth the downloads they offer are all from the our repos [21:34] it's odd though, why would someone make a fan site of lubuntu [22:00] why is lubuntu switching to LXQt? [22:00] among other reasons: because lxde development has slowed to a wee trickle [22:01] sorry, what do you mean "wee trickle"? [22:01] can't understand [22:01] meaning it's not happening very much at all [22:01] so LXDE has stopped development? [22:02] it's not fair to say that it's been abandoned or that it's not being developed at all, but it's so slow as to be effectively stalled [22:02] when did this start? [22:03] when a segment of the devs got sick of gtk requirements (and the fact that gtk3 incompatibility was a real hurdle to overcome) and started working on a qt version [22:03] and with this came some fresh ways of thinking. i would call lxqt much more approachable, complete, pretty, modern, usable, functional [22:03] basically it's better in every regard [22:04] dont know much about gtk history, but i sort of understand the issue [22:04] wxl do you use lubuntu yourself? [22:05] absolutely [22:05] is it a preference or a necessity due to hardware limitations? [22:06] originally the latter, now the former [22:06] haha that's pretty cool [22:07] by the way, can you recommend me a irc client? im using freenode web irc right now [22:07] well you're going to find my opinion rather biased [22:08] don't worry, i dont know much about irc [22:08] i got started on irc before graphical clients were a thing and i used remote unix shells i telnetted to. that said, it's a terminal based client for me: irssi [22:10] only terminal chat i ever attempted to use is WeeChat [22:10] more or less the same [22:10] im a shameless newbie [22:11] alright, thanks for your help [22:12] np [22:18] wxl, sorry to bother you again [22:18] is there any naming convetion for hosts? [22:18] in what context? [22:18] for example, should i use all lowercase characters only? [22:19] i cant find anything about it on google [22:19] again i don't know your context but linux is in general case sensitive [22:19] when i install lubuntu itll ask me to name the device/host/computer [22:19] is there any convetions? [22:20] oh the hostname.. yeah, you can be pretty general. no spaces, though [22:20] sounds fair enough [22:21] think of it like a domain name [22:21] you can just call it foo, but you could also call it foo.bar [22:21] in that case i think i should use only lowercase letters [22:22] seems more appropriate/practical [22:22] you might want to read the hostname man page (`man hostname`) if you want to dig deeper on the subject [22:23] (which involves fqdn/dns) [22:23] wxl i doubt i will ever encounter a situation that requires knowledge of that, but i like to follow general conventions [22:23] so i'll check it out [22:23] http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1178.html [22:23] that's, i guess, the "official" convention [22:24] here's some alternately interesting, useful, funny, and frustrating suggestions https://serverfault.com/questions/17274/naming-conventions [22:24] haha thank you [22:24] np