[02:56] <xdruppi> on installation, does hostname need to be all lowercase?
[07:14] <mchasard> hi
[07:14] <mchasard> i can't no more see my speaker bluetooth under bluetotth devil assistant
[07:15] <mchasard> its a jbl go speaker
[07:15] <mchasard> an idea ?
[07:44] <mchasard> hi again
 Hi, I'm trying to do a manual installation of Lubuntu 18.10 and I'm not sure if I should leave an EFI partition of 512 MB or 1024 MB. I saw in the Lubuntu installation manual that it is best to leave about 1 GB for EFI. What do you advise me? The laptop is an HP Stream with only a 32 GB MMC card as disk.
 No, 1024 MiB is normally too much. Dualboot with Windows?
 No, just Lubuntu 18.10
 I also thougt that 1024 mb is to much. I asked bkz i have seen this in the Lubuntu manual
 Then use just 100 MiB. The EFI partition normally contains only the bootloaders (some MiB).
 Here: https://docs.lubuntu.net/lubuntu_installation
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://i.imgur.com/UpgucDS.jpg
 The official Lubuntu page is https://lubuntu.me
 @JyotiGomes [Here: https://docs.lubuntu.net/lubuntu_installation], You mean manual.lubuntu.me right?
 Those docs are unofficial and broken.
 👍
 @tsimonq2 [Those docs are unofficial and broken.], (to clarify, I'm talking about the docs.lubuntu.net ones)
 @tsimonq2 [(to clarify, I'm talking about the docs.lubuntu.net ones)], Can we start with  https://translate.lubuntu.me ?
 Not yet
 Ok
 Tx
[20:56] <on3pk> So, I just had something weird happen.  I am on a liveusb browsing the web and a pixilated (think 90s NES graphics) message scrolls across the screen.  Is that a lubuntu way of saying something broke?
[20:58] <wxl> on3pk: could be all sorts of things but it's not an intentional part of lubuntu
[21:08] <on3pk> Sorry, quassel kept crashing.  And I tried to use the webchat feature on freenode.net, but, uh, I couldn't pass the captcha.
[21:08] <wxl> did you get the message?
[21:08] <on3pk> that it wasn't part of lubuntu?  Yes, I did see that
[21:09] <wxl> ok
[21:09] <on3pk> it might've been an ad, I'm used to running adblock, but it isn't installed on a livecd.
[21:10]  * wxl shrugs
[21:11] <on3pk> I'm not using lubuntu right now, but when I was using it there was a lot of screen flickering.  Is there a way to tell what graphics driver I'm using and how to change it?  I've noticed this across all "modern" ubuntu releases, so lubuntu isn't alone I guess...
[21:11] <wxl> lspci
[21:11] <wxl> you might want to install the proprietary drivers
[21:12] <wxl> or if you have something super old, you might want to search for how to tweak it
[21:12] <on3pk> Yeah, I have something from several years ago
[21:12] <on3pk> so I might need to do research
[21:12] <wxl> yep
[21:13] <wxl> the unfortunate thing is that it's often really hard for general support to help.. unless they've had experience with that same hardware
[21:14] <on3pk> well tbh I think the best solution is just to get something more modern, rather than try to continually tweak old hardware. heh...
[21:14] <on3pk> anyway, thanks for your help
[21:14] <wxl> np
[21:28] <xdruppi> should i use lubuntu 18.10 or LTS?
[21:29] <wxl> xdruppi: i'd advise 18.10. there's a major change in the system between the two and upgrading from 18.04 will be more difficult than upgrading from 18.10.
[21:30] <xdruppi> wxl: i am using lubuntu as my distro for learning linux through virtual machine
[21:30] <xdruppi> wxl: i just want to have little to no issues with it
[21:30] <wxl> there's always issues. always.
[21:30] <wxl> with everything.
[21:30] <wxl> including windows and os x.
[21:30] <xdruppi> wxl: but LXQT is very tempting
[21:30] <wxl> and android and ios.
[21:31] <wxl> and every other piece of software out there, open source and proprietary.
[21:31] <xdruppi> wxl: I'll go for 18.10
[21:32] <xdruppi> by the way, what happened with the .net domain of lubuntu?
[21:32] <wxl> it's never been under the control of the lubuntu team
[21:32] <wxl> it's essentially a fan site
[21:32] <wxl> completely and totally unofficial
[21:32] <xdruppi> really?
[21:32] <xdruppi> isnt that unsafe?
[21:33] <wxl> yep
[21:33] <wxl> define unsafe?
[21:33] <xdruppi> lubuntu is shared but altered
[21:33] <xdruppi> and since its not official...
[21:33] <wxl> for what it's worth the downloads they offer are all from the our repos
[21:34] <xdruppi> it's odd though, why would someone make a fan site of lubuntu
[22:00] <xdruppi> why is lubuntu switching to LXQt?
[22:00] <wxl> among other reasons: because lxde development has slowed to a wee trickle
[22:01] <xdruppi> sorry, what do you mean "wee trickle"?
[22:01] <xdruppi> can't understand
[22:01] <wxl> meaning it's not happening very much at all
[22:01] <xdruppi> so LXDE has stopped development?
[22:02] <wxl> it's not fair to say that it's been abandoned or that it's not being developed at all, but it's so slow as to be effectively stalled
[22:02] <xdruppi> when did this start?
[22:03] <wxl> when a segment of the devs got sick of gtk requirements (and the fact that gtk3 incompatibility was a real hurdle to overcome) and started working on a qt version
[22:03] <wxl> and with this came some fresh ways of thinking. i would call lxqt much more approachable, complete, pretty, modern, usable, functional
[22:03] <wxl> basically it's better in every regard
[22:04] <xdruppi> dont know much about gtk history, but i sort of understand the issue
[22:04] <xdruppi> wxl do you use lubuntu yourself?
[22:05] <wxl> absolutely
[22:05] <xdruppi> is it a preference or a necessity due to hardware limitations?
[22:06] <wxl> originally the latter, now the former
[22:06] <xdruppi> haha that's pretty cool
[22:07] <xdruppi> by the way, can you recommend me a irc client? im using freenode web irc right now
[22:07] <wxl> well you're going to find my opinion rather biased
[22:08] <xdruppi> don't worry, i dont know much about irc
[22:08] <wxl> i got started on irc before graphical clients were a thing and i used remote unix shells i telnetted to. that said, it's a terminal based client for me: irssi
[22:10] <xdruppi> only terminal chat i ever attempted to use is WeeChat
[22:10] <wxl> more or less the same
[22:10] <xdruppi> im a shameless newbie
[22:11] <xdruppi> alright, thanks for your help
[22:12] <wxl> np
[22:18] <xdruppi> wxl, sorry to bother you again
[22:18] <xdruppi> is there any naming convetion for hosts?
[22:18] <wxl> in what context?
[22:18] <xdruppi> for example, should i use all lowercase characters only?
[22:19] <xdruppi> i cant find anything about it on google
[22:19] <wxl> again i don't know your context but linux is in general case sensitive
[22:19] <xdruppi> when i install lubuntu itll ask me to name the device/host/computer
[22:19] <xdruppi> is there any convetions?
[22:20] <wxl> oh the hostname.. yeah, you can be pretty general. no spaces, though
[22:20] <xdruppi> sounds fair enough
[22:21] <wxl> think of it like a domain name
[22:21] <wxl> you can just call it foo, but you could also call it foo.bar
[22:21] <xdruppi> in that case i think i should use only lowercase letters
[22:22] <xdruppi> seems more appropriate/practical
[22:22] <wxl> you might want to read the hostname man page (`man hostname`) if you want to dig deeper on the subject
[22:23] <wxl> (which involves fqdn/dns)
[22:23] <xdruppi> wxl i doubt i will ever encounter a situation that requires knowledge of that, but i like to follow general conventions
[22:23] <xdruppi> so i'll check it out
[22:23] <wxl> http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1178.html
[22:23] <wxl> that's, i guess, the "official" convention
[22:24] <wxl> here's some alternately interesting, useful, funny, and frustrating suggestions https://serverfault.com/questions/17274/naming-conventions
[22:24] <xdruppi> haha thank you
[22:24] <wxl> np