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| lynorian | thanks kc2bez | 03:20 |
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| kc2bez | YW | 03:21 |
| kc2bez | Happy to help. | 03:21 |
| kc2bez | I think the manual is turning out awesome! You have done an excellent job lynorian | 03:23 |
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| xdruppi | hi i'd like to point out something about the manual of Lubuntu, i'm doing some worth to translate it to Spanish, and I noticed that at some point, a bittorrent client recommendation for Windows users is uTorrent, and I'm against this. | 04:56 |
| xdruppi | work to translate* sorry | 04:56 |
| xdruppi | i'd recommend instead qBitTorrent, or the original BitTorrent client | 04:56 |
| xdruppi | qBitTorrent works really good | 04:57 |
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| lynorian | xdruppi: what is the difference I have not used torrents on windows ever | 05:40 |
| lynorian | I belive tsimonq2 made that recommendation | 05:40 |
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| xdruppi | lynorian: utorrent has ads and has some bad reputation | 05:56 |
| lynorian | xdruppi understood I can get behind this | 05:59 |
| lynorian | and uses Qt as well | 06:00 |
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| lynorian | thanks xdruppi | 06:04 |
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| lubot | Podlech was added by: Podlech | 06:16 |
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| xdruppi | im curious about something | 09:06 |
| xdruppi | is there plans for translation on lubuntu website? | 09:07 |
| xdruppi | when io | 09:07 |
| xdruppi | when i first visited it i thought i could change languages | 09:07 |
| xdruppi | :( | 09:07 |
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| lubot | <Luiz Cláudio> Hello everyone, Will the Welcome Center be placed in the next version of Lubuntu? ... I think it's a good idea. | 17:19 |
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| xdruppi | does lubuntu manual get updated with each release? | 17:31 |
| wxl | Luiz you need a username if you want IRC folks to mention you. Suffice it to say, the goal is to get the Welcome Center in the next version.. if we get it done. Sooooooo come help us and it will be there :) | 17:34 |
| apt-ghetto | What are the plans to remove pyhton2? | 17:52 |
| teward | python2 removal is a bit more broad-scale than just Lubuntu IIRC | 17:55 |
| teward | since there's a ton of rdeps | 17:55 |
| teward | IIRC the number of rdeps on py2 is massive, equal to the py3.7 rdeps list. :| | 17:56 |
| apt-ghetto | yes, but I mean only the lubuntu-specific packages, which depend on py2 | 17:56 |
| xdruppi | teward: I'm sorry, just out of curiosity, is there people working on converting these to p3? | 17:57 |
| teward | xdruppi: not sure | 17:57 |
| apt-ghetto | lubuntu 18.10 ships with python2 but ubuntu 18.10 not | 17:58 |
| teward | that's... actually a good point, why *is* Lubuntu still using Py2? | 17:58 |
| xdruppi | apt-ghetto: I noticed that | 17:58 |
| apt-ghetto | so we should know, which packages are using python2 | 17:58 |
| teward | *installs Lubuntu, then runs a dry-run removal of Py2 to see the damage* | 17:58 |
| wxl | i don't know, why are we? | 17:58 |
| wxl | probably something tsimonq2 fucked up | 17:59 |
| apt-ghetto | and then we can drop or replace these packages until 20.04 | 17:59 |
| teward | wxl: can I somehow blame Simon for this? | 17:59 |
| wxl | i'm saying it's a good possibility :) | 17:59 |
| wxl | on the other hand i've discovered a few unexpected things that go back from the early days of lxqt with gilir at the helm that we just didn't go all the way | 18:00 |
| wxl | i can't imagine py2 is our default | 18:00 |
| xdruppi | wxl: who's tsimonq2? | 18:00 |
| wxl | xdruppi: release manager of lubuntu | 18:00 |
| xdruppi | oh i see | 18:00 |
| xdruppi | haha | 18:00 |
| teward | and the guy I throw stuff at :p | 18:00 |
| wxl | s/I/we/ | 18:00 |
| teward | *has a thing about pestering Simon about things* | 18:00 |
| wxl | actually he brings it upon himself | 18:01 |
| teward | wxl: at least i'm not harping about the infra... :p | 18:01 |
| apt-ghetto | `apt-cache rdepends --installed ibus-pinyin` | 18:01 |
| teward | @tsimonq2: lubuntu-seed += open-vm-tools plz. | 18:01 |
| teward | >.> | 18:01 |
| teward | lubuntu installer images* | 18:02 |
| wxl | you can always commit a patch yourself silly | 18:02 |
| * wxl gives teward the lazy badge | 18:02 | |
| wxl | in other news, merged-usr is going to be fun | 18:02 |
| wxl | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh cosmic lubuntu python version is 2.7 :'''''( | 18:03 |
| wxl | whyyyyyyyyyy | 18:03 |
| teward | wtf | 18:03 |
| genii | !info python cosmic | 18:05 |
| teward | wxl: you know what | 18:05 |
| ubot93 | python (source: python-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (Python2 version). In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.15-3 (cosmic), package size 7.6 kB, installed size 68 kB | 18:05 |
| teward | i found something on the livecd :| | 18:05 |
| genii | hm | 18:05 |
| wxl | we didn't | 18:05 |
| wxl | we just don't make decisions exclusively on low-end systems only | 18:05 |
| wxl | gosh can i get on the right channel ever | 18:06 |
| teward | um... the python deps are... surprisingly not that bad if I remove python-minimal :| | 18:08 |
| wxl | if i'm not wrnog apt-rdepends -r --state-follow=Installed --state-show=Installed python2 should give us our answer | 18:08 |
| teward | well in a livecd I just removed python-minimal and the impact was mostly NOT system critical stuff | 18:09 |
| teward | just some ibus junk | 18:09 |
| teward | :P | 18:09 |
| wxl | is ibus not py3 capable? god | 18:09 |
| apt-ghetto | we should have a "drop py2" task with all the packages depending on py as subtasks | 18:10 |
| teward | wxl: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vFqnhzkpWY/ | 18:10 |
| teward | looks line pinyin | 18:11 |
| apt-ghetto | in some cases we have to switch only the dependencies, in other we can drop unmaintained stuff | 18:11 |
| wxl | oh really | 18:11 |
| teward | let me fully install Lubuntu to the VM first | 18:11 |
| teward | then run the commands. | 18:11 |
| wxl | but why would that make the DEFaULT python 2? | 18:11 |
| teward | wxl: well, technically it's got *two* | 18:12 |
| wxl | it doesn't have two defaults | 18:12 |
| teward | and if there's a python executable upstream states python == python2, python == python3 if they're both present | 18:12 |
| teward | so not sure what you're using to define "default" in this case wxl | 18:12 |
| wxl | `python --version` | 18:12 |
| teward | wxl: because Py2 is installed | 18:12 |
| teward | that's not the 'default' per se | 18:13 |
| wxl | ugh | 18:13 |
| wxl | so dumb | 18:13 |
| teward | that's just because upstream's py2/py3 statement of operation is as it is | 18:13 |
| * wxl sets guido's hair on fire | 18:13 | |
| apt-ghetto | https://lwn.net/Articles/756628/ | 18:13 |
| * teward sets wxl on fire | 18:13 | |
| teward | um i mean what? :P | 18:14 |
| wxl | really? | 18:14 |
| wxl | don't know who guido van rossum is? | 18:14 |
| teward | not offhand, i'm just targeting you since you're here though :p | 18:14 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> gosh can i get on the right channel ever], ECHAAAAAN | 18:14 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Ohai | 18:14 |
| teward | *throws more salt at @tsimonq2* | 18:14 |
| teward | no py2 plz | 18:14 |
| wxl | go fix it | 18:15 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Me? | 18:15 |
| wxl | yeah you broke it | 18:15 |
| teward | *conscripts tsimonq2 to drop py2 as an Lubuntu dependency for runtime installation* | 18:15 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> go fix it], My automatic response to you now is "where's my task, damnit?" XD | 18:15 |
| wxl | i seem to remember there was a bug a long time ago about being py3 ready......................... long before cosmic................................................. uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 18:15 |
| apt-ghetto | there is/was a task with py2 and openbox | 18:16 |
| lubot | <Luiz Cláudio> @tsimonq2 Congratulations on the excellent work Lubuntu 18.10 | 18:16 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T168: Drop py2 dependencies] teward (Thomas Ward) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T168 | 18:17 | |
| teward | *points up then yells at @tsimonq2 some more* | 18:17 |
| wxl | wait a minute | 18:17 |
| wxl | WHY DO WE HAVE IBUS? | 18:18 |
| wxl | we have fcitx!!!!!!!! | 18:18 |
| apt-ghetto | the ibus daemon is not running | 18:18 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @Luiz Cláudio [@tsimonq2 Congratulations on the excellent work Lubuntu 18.10], Thanks :) | 18:18 |
| teward | then why do we have any ibus packages to begin with | 18:18 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> (Sticker, 512x512) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/c3DCxH2a/file_4709.png | 18:18 |
| teward | because APPARENTLY that's what's installed on the Live image at least. | 18:18 |
| wxl | TFRM | 18:19 |
| wxl | (total failure of release manager) | 18:19 |
| lubot | <Luiz Cláudio> @tsimonq2 And congratulations also for the Manual of the Lubuntu that is well complete. | 18:19 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @Luiz Cláudio [@tsimonq2 And congratulations also for the Manual of the Lubuntu that is well co …], Thank lynorian :) | 18:19 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> (total failure of release manager)], HAHAHAHAHA is that a thing now? | 18:20 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Bet | 18:20 |
| apt-ghetto | https://phab.lubuntu.me/T41 | 18:20 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] Test the Openbox SRU: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T41 | 18:20 | |
| lubot | <Luiz Cláudio> After I installed Lubuntu, it already comes with several applications for an average user to use. | 18:22 |
| lubot | <teward001> @wxl [<wxl> if i'm not wrnog apt-rdepends -r --state-follow=Installed --state-show=Ins …], http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SRT2rNcD42 | 18:23 |
| lubot | <teward001> so, why do we install ibus-pinyin by default? | 18:23 |
| lubot | <teward001> *looks over at @tsimonq2 with the coldest, most evil glare in existence* | 18:24 |
| xdruppi | how did canonical contact the lubuntu team to recognize it officially? | 18:24 |
| xdruppi | im curious | 18:24 |
| wxl | other way around, xdruppi | 18:24 |
| xdruppi | oh | 18:24 |
| wxl | how | 18:25 |
| xdruppi | did canonical doubt about it at first? | 18:25 |
| wxl | is | 18:25 |
| wxl | it | 18:25 |
| wxl | there? | 18:25 |
| xdruppi | where? | 18:25 |
| wxl | xdruppi: not really | 18:25 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Sooo I'm deferring blame to gilir :) | 18:25 |
| wxl | it's probably reasonable | 18:25 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> We were the flavor that established the process though | 18:25 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> We are pioneers these days. 😎 | 18:25 |
| lubot | <teward001> wxl: if you lok at the pastebin i provided just above, i think it's because language-pack-kde-zh-hans is on the image and installation | 18:28 |
| lubot | <teward001> that's why we pull in py2 | 18:28 |
| lubot | <teward001> because that deps on things and ibus-piyin | 18:29 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> BAAAAAH | 18:29 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Yeah | 18:29 |
| lubot | <teward001> which i think is to blame here | 18:29 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> AXE IT | 18:29 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> :P | 18:29 |
| lubot | <teward001> you do it, it's your job now. | 18:29 |
| lubot | <teward001> as release manager :P | 18:29 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Kthxbai | 18:29 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> :) | 18:29 |
| lubot | <teward001> ibus-pinyin* | 18:29 |
| wxl | OOOOH IT"S TSIMONQ@"S FAULT AHAHAHAH | 18:30 |
| wxl | https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-seed/browse/cosmic/live-share;99390b0315d02f368ba75275f107b83336fe1033?renamed=live | 18:30 |
| wxl | see the "Languages" line | 18:31 |
| wxl | previously (gilir version) was just en https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-seed/browse/cosmic/live-share;ba84cf99bc68581a48e832147f49957b9ba000b2 | 18:31 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Whose fault? Who is this tsimonq@ guy? | 18:31 |
| teward | ***I KNEW IT*** *shoves boot into @tsimonq2's face again* | 18:31 |
| wxl | HAH | 18:31 |
| wxl | https://shedrowconfessions.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/point-and-laugh.jpg | 18:32 |
| teward | my question is, why does the standard Ubuntu installer ***remove*** that language pack and its dependencies while Lubuntu just still installs it | 18:32 |
| teward | (if the language isn't selected during install, I mean) | 18:32 |
| wxl | how i feel when it's tsimonq2's fault https://duckduckgo.com/?q=point+and+laugh&t=canonical&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&iaf=type%3Aphoto-animatedgif&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FyidUzkciDTniZ7OHte%2Fgiphy.gif | 18:34 |
| wxl | aww nevermind that uri jeez | 18:34 |
| wxl | https://media.giphy.com/media/yidUzkciDTniZ7OHte/giphy.gif | 18:34 |
| teward | lol | 18:34 |
| wxl | here's tsimonq2 trying to brush off the embarassment with laughter https://tphal1213.pbworks.com/f/1355354189/Laugh%20and%20Fall%20over.jpg | 18:35 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @teward [<teward> my question is, why does the standard Ubuntu installer ***remove*** tha …], Because Cala | 18:36 |
| teward | *burns cala* | 18:37 |
| wxl | to be fair there are ways to remove packages with cala........ | 18:38 |
| lubot | <teward001> @wxl [<wxl> here's tsimonq2 trying to brush off the embarassment with laughter https:/ …], wxl: we need the GIF of that scene | 18:38 |
| lubot | <teward001> :P | 18:38 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> https://media.giphy.com/media/yidUzkciDTniZ7OHte/giphy.gif], Hahahahaha | 18:39 |
| wxl | apt-ghetto: hey since you seemed to be comfortable with the concept of the packaging tutorial, why don't you pull down that upstream patch that you originally mentioned the security thing in? | 18:54 |
| teward | wxl: you mean the one I NACK'd as a security risk? | 18:56 |
| teward | or one you didn't share with me yet :p | 18:56 |
| wxl | that one | 18:56 |
| wxl | but not pulling THAT down | 18:56 |
| teward | (or rather, NACK'd the task on since we aren't affected) | 18:56 |
| teward | :P | 18:56 |
| wxl | but the task that they mentioned that one in | 18:56 |
| teward | ah | 18:56 |
| apt-ghetto | you speak about https://phab.lubuntu.me/T167 or the command injection? | 18:56 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Low, Invalid] lxqt-sudo: command injection vulnerability: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T167 | 18:56 | |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> HEY QA MANAGER wxl | 18:57 |
| teward | apt-ghetto: also don't be surprised if I start using ACK, NACK, FTBFS, GDIAF, etc. - tsimonq2 and wxl are all used to my antics and shorthand I use :P | 18:57 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/9t1n03/disco_dingo_the_development_cycle_has_started/e9mshhg?utm_source=reddit-android | 18:57 |
| apt-ghetto | or https://phab.lubuntu.me/T159 ? | 18:57 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] strip environment in lxqt-sudo: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T159 | 18:57 | |
| teward | (i'm the one who -1'd the command injection task after investigating by the way) | 18:57 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @tsimonq2 [https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/9t1n03/disco_dingo_the_development_cyc …], wxl wxl wxl | 18:57 |
| wxl | apt-ghetto: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T159 | 18:58 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] strip environment in lxqt-sudo: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T159 | 18:58 | |
| wxl | wth | 18:58 |
| apt-ghetto | I hope I can upload the diff in the next few days | 18:58 |
| teward | @apt-ghetto: have you confirmed that if T159 gets included T167 is needed | 18:58 |
| teward | because T167 affects a patch that's *not* necessarily from environment stripping | 18:58 |
| teward | rather, the enforcing of C locale | 18:59 |
| apt-ghetto | no, the command injection and the strip environment are not related | 18:59 |
| wxl | dist/full-upgrading with a development release | 18:59 |
| wxl | dangerous | 18:59 |
| teward | apt-ghetto: that's what I thought, you referenced it in 159 which is what i asked. | 18:59 |
| apt-ghetto | i have prepared a diff only for the strip patch | 19:00 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> dist/full-upgrading with a development release], I do it daily :P | 19:00 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2: then why aren't you having the problem? | 19:00 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I don't know | 19:00 |
| wxl | then it's probably not a problem, eh? | 19:00 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> But it's up to the QA team to test it. :P | 19:01 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T159: strip environment in lxqt-sudo] teward (Thomas Ward) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T159#3346 | 19:01 | |
| wxl | can't reproduce = not a bug | 19:01 |
| teward | ^ just since that task referenced T167 i wanted to make it clear it's not needed :P | 19:01 |
| apt-ghetto | yes, I know | 19:01 |
| teward | apt-ghetto: nice to actually meet(?) you though :) (I'm not usually active here in -devel, I just torture tsimonq2 and wxl in the secret channels heh) | 19:02 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> We have *one* internal channel for that exact reason. :P | 19:02 |
| wxl | we probably need more | 19:03 |
| wxl | it's a vast subject | 19:03 |
| teward | lol | 19:03 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Hahahahaha | 19:03 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> A channel just dedicated to blaming me for stuff? XD | 19:03 |
| apt-ghetto | what channel? lubuntu-pain? lubuntu-sadism? | 19:03 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> XDD | 19:04 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T168: Drop py2 dependencies] teward (Thomas Ward) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T168#3347 | 19:04 | |
| wxl | i mean there COULD be a whole channel JUST for that | 19:04 |
| teward | lubuntu-torturefest | 19:04 |
| teward | um i mean | 19:04 |
| teward | what? | 19:04 |
| teward | :P | 19:04 |
| teward | we could just set up lubot to post in that channel ever 5 seconds "It's @tsimonq2's fault!" :p | 19:05 |
| wxl | probably would be wise | 19:05 |
| lynorian | tsimonq2: do we know why the translations for the manual aren't building? | 19:55 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @lynorian [<lynorian> tsimonq2: do we know why the translations for the manual aren't build …], Because I need to go and clean up shop :P | 19:56 |
| teward | and that'll stop weblate from yelling at me too lol | 19:57 |
| wxl | heh i can't even run calamares in dingo | 19:58 |
| teward | does cala have dependencies on python3? | 19:58 |
| teward | because that's a cluster right now :P | 19:58 |
| wxl | can't find libboost_python36.so.1.67.0 | 19:58 |
| teward | wxl: there is no Py3.6 | 19:59 |
| teward | it's py3.7 | 19:59 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/da7TsrZH/file_4715.mp4 | 19:59 |
| teward | that's why everything's a cluster | 19:59 |
| wxl | so there's your answer, @tsimonq2. go fix it | 19:59 |
| teward | wxl: cala needs updated for 3.7 deps | 19:59 |
| teward | go fix it | 19:59 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Where's my damn task? | 19:59 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> :P | 19:59 |
| wxl | @tsimonq2 brought it up so he gets to fix it (https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/9t1n03/disco_dingo_the_development_cycle_has_started/e9mshhg/) | 19:59 |
| teward | wxl: it's what's breaking cinder which is blocking the nginx migration from proposed -> release :p | 19:59 |
| wxl | you didn't give me a task so you get to make one | 19:59 |
| wxl | :) | 19:59 |
| teward | can i make one major task "UPdate things for Py3.7" and then we just add tasks to that :p | 20:00 |
| teward | loljk i make too many tasks :p | 20:00 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @teward [<teward> loljk i make too many tasks :p], No you don't | 20:00 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Do it | 20:00 |
| teward | *sits on @tsimonq2 and uses them as a chair* | 20:01 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T169: Python 3.7 Migration Tasks] teward (Thomas Ward) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T169 | 20:03 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL50173658a62c: Add page width and entire page zoom in lowriter] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL50173658a62c | 20:04 | |
| teward | wxl: make a cala is broken task, parent it to T169? | 20:04 |
| wxl | sure | 20:04 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc9a59f91159c: Add jump forward and backward to qpdfview] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc9a59f91159c | 20:17 | |
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| wxl | O_O | 20:37 |
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| wxl | what did you break @tsimonq2 ? | 20:37 |
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| teward | weblate asploded | 20:39 |
| teward | again | 20:39 |
| wxl | if only @tsimonq2 would stop breaking it | 20:39 |
| teward | we can probably partly blame xdruppi *runs and hides* | 20:39 |
| teward | :p | 20:39 |
| wxl | not really | 20:40 |
| wxl | it's ALLL @tsimonq2 's fault | 20:40 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> :P | 20:40 |
| teward | holy heck > 45 commits :| | 20:40 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> @tsimonq2 so did you look at my CMake lists code? | 20:40 |
| teward | *squishes @tsimonq2* | 20:40 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @Wafficus [@tsimonq2 so did you look at my CMake lists code?], What do you want me to look at? | 20:44 |
| teward | the code lol | 20:44 |
| teward | *shot* | 20:44 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> @tsimonq2 like if CMake builds correctly since I had an IRC member from #Linux help me adapt the hello world example from CMakes's website to just reference the Community Center project files | 20:45 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALae4ead79ba14: Add how to view two pages in qpdfview and then get back to one page] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALae4ead79ba14 | 20:46 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfb52ea4ced44: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://phab.lubuntu.me:2222/source/lubuntu-manual] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfb52ea4ced44 | 20:46 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5af090c06f35: Add more :kbd: to make qpdfview keyboard shortcuts clearer] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5af090c06f35 | 20:46 | |
| teward | wxl: does rebuilding cala against the newer python dev libraries make it work? | 20:47 |
| teward | or have you not tested? | 20:48 |
| wxl | @teward: didn't test. might want to ask the release manager XD | 20:49 |
| teward | lol | 20:50 |
| teward | *throws sticks at @tsimonq2* | 20:50 |
| wxl | i bet it will just work | 20:50 |
| lubot | <teward001> wxl: what was the source package? | 20:51 |
| wxl | um | 20:51 |
| lubot | <Wafficus> I was gonna say would anyone else like to aid me on the welcome center? I ask because although the tutorial progress and beginner aspect is helping me, I need another person to check my work that knows qt and c++ | 20:51 |
| wxl | c | 20:51 |
| wxl | a | 20:51 |
| wxl | l | 20:51 |
| wxl | a | 20:51 |
| wxl | m | 20:51 |
| wxl | a | 20:51 |
| wxl | r | 20:51 |
| wxl | e | 20:51 |
| wxl | s | 20:51 |
| lubot | <teward001> *shoots wxl* | 20:51 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> It's Cala | 20:51 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> C | 20:51 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> A | 20:51 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> L | 20:51 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> A | 20:51 |
| wxl | hahahahahah | 20:51 |
| wxl | Cala != CALA | 20:52 |
| * wxl remaps all of @tsimonq2's shift keys so that they add extra, unnecessary whitespace instead | 20:52 | |
| teward | um, hm. | 20:53 |
| teward | wxl: cala is already rebuilt to look at pt3.7 | 20:53 |
| teward | py3.7 | 20:53 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL90c2cc573f8a: even more :kbd: for qpdfview] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL90c2cc573f8a | 20:53 | |
| wxl | as of when? | 20:54 |
| teward | NCR on Oct. 31 | 20:54 |
| teward | (No Change Rebuild) | 20:54 |
| teward | by doko | 20:54 |
| teward | wxl: given that python3-dev is called in, i'd think it'd use Python 7 then | 20:57 |
| teward | 3.7 then* | 20:57 |
| teward | wxl: prod doko then? | 20:57 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd59205c24f3c: Add :kbd: to lowriter] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd59205c24f3c | 20:58 | |
| wxl | !info calamares disco | 21:00 |
| ubot93 | calamares (source: calamares): distribution-independent installer framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-0ubuntu2 (disco), package size 2310.9 kB, installed size 6221 kB. (Only available for linux-any) | 21:00 |
| wxl | is it possible that libboost-python1.67.0 needs to be rebuilt? | 21:01 |
| wxl | oh | 21:01 |
| wxl | it depends on python3 and: | 21:02 |
| wxl | !info python3 disco | 21:02 |
| ubot93 | python3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is important. Version 3.7.1-1ubuntu1 (disco), package size 46.1 kB, installed size 187 kB | 21:02 |
| wxl | uh | 21:02 |
| wxl | what | 21:02 |
| lubot | <teward001> check the source package for libbost-python1.67.0 | 21:03 |
| lubot | <teward001> if it has a NCR for Py3.7 then it shouldn't need rebuilt again | 21:03 |
| lubot | <teward001> wxl: last boost1.67 build was Nov 1 | 21:04 |
| lubot | <teward001> so it should've been .3.7 | 21:04 |
| lubot | <teward001> 3.7* | 21:04 |
| wxl | NCR w/o 3.6 in 1.67.0-8build1 | 21:06 |
| lubot | <teward001> what about in proposed? | 21:06 |
| lubot | <teward001> actually | 21:06 |
| wxl | rebuilds against icu | 21:07 |
| lubot | <teward001> wxl: lastest supported in Disco is 1.67.0-9 | 21:07 |
| lubot | <teward001> so where's you getting 1.67.0-8build1? | 21:07 |
| lubot | <teward001> (because there's newer versions!) | 21:07 |
| wxl | i'm thinking we *JUST* missed 8built1 | 21:07 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL428c67e76082: Add :kbd: and :menuselection: to localc] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL428c67e76082 | 21:07 | |
| lubot | <teward001> well wouldn't -9 be built then properly? | 21:07 |
| lubot | <teward001> or -10 which is still in proposed? | 21:07 |
| lubot | <teward001> test cala from proposed? | 21:07 |
| lubot | <teward001> betcha it'll explode because 3.6->3.7 but still | 21:07 |
| wxl | there goes that idea | 21:07 |
| wxl | we have -9 | 21:08 |
| lubot | <teward001> yep | 21:08 |
| lubot | <teward001> but -10 is in proposed so test it anyways? | 21:08 |
| wxl | yeah i guess | 21:08 |
| lubot | <teward001> looks like -10 had a rebuild against icu 63 | 21:08 |
| lubot | <teward001> so maybe that update will fix it IDK | 21:08 |
| wxl | i doubt it | 21:08 |
| wxl | nope | 21:10 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL32c2d3c61ad9: Add :kbd: to loimpress] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL32c2d3c61ad9 | 21:10 | |
| lubot | <teward001> wxl: then something went FUBAR | 21:11 |
| lubot | <teward001> time to open an LP bug lol | 21:11 |
| lubot | <teward001> and a phab task for it 😛 | 21:11 |
| wxl | i'll wait to hear back from doko | 21:11 |
| wxl | but chances are | 21:11 |
| wxl | it's tsimonq2's fault | 21:11 |
| lubot | <teward001> lol | 21:11 |
| lubot | <teward001> *blames xnox instead* | 21:12 |
| wxl | might be legitimate | 21:12 |
| wxl | but we'll still publicly blame @tsimonq2 | 21:12 |
| lubot | <teward001> :P | 21:12 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALca63ec06e1b1: Add :kbd: for zoom in firefox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALca63ec06e1b1 | 21:19 | |
| wxl | oh jeez now @tsimonq2 broke the manual script! | 21:20 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL79e7c1590418: Add :kbd: to lximage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL79e7c1590418 | 21:23 | |
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| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8ca702ab661f: Add :kbd: and :menuselection: roles to Featherpad] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8ca702ab661f | 21:41 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL288637159b0a: Add :kbd: for cut copy paste in Kcalc] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL288637159b0a | 21:45 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL69541d827fea: Add :kbd: to display qlipper] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL69541d827fea | 21:52 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL65667423fcea: Add :kbd: to vlc playback speed and file opening] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL65667423fcea | 21:57 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe6c0cb684169: Add keyboard shortcut to playlist] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe6c0cb684169 | 22:08 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1ba08a3b24ad: Add :kbd: to qterminal shortcuts] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1ba08a3b24ad | 22:18 | |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: libqtxdg (cosmic-proposed/universe) [3.2.0-2ubuntu3 => 3.2.0-2ubuntu4] (lubuntu) | 23:27 | |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: libfm-qt (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.13.1-5ubuntu7 => 0.13.1-5ubuntu8] (lubuntu) | 23:27 | |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: lxqt-qtplugin (cosmic-proposed/universe) [0.13.0-0ubuntu5 => 0.13.0-0ubuntu6] (lubuntu) | 23:28 | |
| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: pythonqt (cosmic-proposed/universe) [3.2-10 => 3.2-10build2] (lubuntu) | 23:28 | |
| tsimonq2 | Bad tsimonq2 is bad. | 23:29 |
| lubot | <acheronuk> @tsimonq2 ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm | 23:31 |
| tsimonq2 | 05:28:35 PM < tsimonq2> All of that should have gone to Disco. | 23:31 |
| tsimonq2 | 05:28:59 PM < tsimonq2> vorlon, rbasak, bdmurray: Anyone feeling reject happy? ^ | 23:31 |
| tsimonq2 | That. | 23:31 |
| lubot | <acheronuk> fix your no change rebuild script harder! | 23:31 |
| lubot | <acheronuk> :D | 23:32 |
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