[05:01] <xdruppi> as a newbie on linux, is it important for me to learn bash?
[05:02] <wxl> not a requirement but extremely useful
[05:03] <xdruppi> why is that?
[05:05] <wxl> because it's extremely powerful
[05:05] <xdruppi> where can i learn it? at least so that i can read basic stuff in case i need to
[05:06] <wxl> tldp.org
[05:07] <xdruppi> website's down
[05:08] <xdruppi> i'll try later
[05:08] <wxl> it'll be back
[05:08] <xdruppi> for sure
[05:08] <wxl> https://ryanstutorials.net/linuxtutorial/
[05:08] <wxl> that includes some good stuff
[05:08] <xdruppi> by the way wxl
[05:08] <wxl> including things that are not strictly bash (for example, grep) but you'll use in bash
[05:08] <xdruppi> im curious about the next release of lubuntu, how is the update going to happen? im using regular version
[05:09] <xdruppi> do i need to reinstall the whole thing?
[05:09] <xdruppi> or is it like a normal update
[05:09] <wxl> you're on 18.10?
[05:09] <xdruppi> yes
[05:09] <wxl> normal
[05:09] <xdruppi> alright
[05:09] <xdruppi> ok thanks for those websites
[05:10] <xdruppi> i'll read them
[05:10] <wxl> http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_learning_the_shell.php
[05:10] <wxl> https://www.lynda.com/Linux-tutorials/Learning-Linux-Command-Line/435539-2.html
[05:10] <wxl> https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-the-command-line
[05:10] <xdruppi> ok i'll save those in a .txt
[05:10] <xdruppi> haha
[05:10] <xdruppi> i really appreciate it
[05:10] <wxl> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:10] <wxl> np
[05:16] <xdruppi> when i update from terminal there's a warning message, i am wondering if it's important, where can i paste it? it's about "cryptsetup"
[05:16] <wxl> paste.ubuntu.com
[05:17] <wxl> btw you can look at the man page for a useful tool that's included: `pastebinit`
[05:17] <xdruppi> i'll check it out
[05:17] <wxl> if you understand the idea of pipes in linux, where you "pipe together" commands, it's super useful
[05:17] <xdruppi> i think i've used copypaste programs in the past
[05:17] <xdruppi> cant rememver
[05:17] <xdruppi> remember**
[05:17] <wxl> for example, if you wanted to show me what your memory was like, you could do `free | pastebinit` and it would spit out a url that i could go to
[05:18] <xdruppi> oh i see
[05:18] <wxl> or let's say you wanted to show me your broadcom pci devices and their kenerl drivers you could do something like `lspci -nnk | grep -A 3 14e4 | pastebinit`
[05:19] <wxl> that, i'm sure looks like white noise, but it will make sense soon enough
[05:19] <xdruppi> wxl is there a log of the terminal somewhere?
[05:19] <xdruppi> of literally everything that's been output
[05:19] <wxl> see the `history` command
[05:19] <wxl> it has a limit but you can change that limit
[05:19] <wxl> `man history`
[05:20] <wxl> also you can try to find things that might be appropriate to something with `apropos`
[05:20] <wxl> actually not man history
[05:20] <wxl> tht's the library
[05:21] <wxl> `help history`
[05:22] <xdruppi> oh ok i see what history does
[05:23] <xdruppi> but it's not what i was expecting
[05:24] <wxl> you wanted to see the response to everything
[05:24] <wxl> right?
[05:25] <xdruppi> not really, since im a big doofus i closed the terminal that had the warning
[05:25] <xdruppi> so i want to know if it's possible that there's a log in my system
[05:25] <xdruppi> showing the output
[05:25] <wxl> think of how enormous that would be
[05:25] <xdruppi> exactly
[05:26] <wxl> let's imagine a nice one liner: `find / -type f 2>/dev/null` which will basically list every single file on your hard disk, except for those you don't have permission for
[05:26] <wxl> you really want a log of that?
[05:26] <xdruppi> oh god
[05:27] <xdruppi> either way
[05:27] <xdruppi> the output said to install a package if i wanted the warning to stop showing up
[05:27] <xdruppi> i'll try to get it later
[05:27] <xdruppi> i mean, the warning
[05:27] <wxl> paste.ubuntu.com is your friend
[05:28] <xdruppi> very well
[05:29] <xdruppi> im gonna read this ryanstutorial linux guide
[05:29] <xdruppi> looks very good
[05:29] <xdruppi> then i'll check the other ones
[05:29] <wxl> sounds good be well
[06:07] <xdruppi> alright, wxl
[06:07] <xdruppi> i literally set up another vm to make another lubuntu installation
[06:07] <xdruppi> so that i can show the warning
[06:16] <xdruppi> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rcf8sjw3gX/
 Hello, I have a question for you... 😉 ... I'm running lubuntu on small VPS and need more space. I really only need the basic functions. Which programs (that came with the package) need the most space and can be uninstalled without problems?
[10:33] <leszek> lubot: the question primarily for me why the heck did you install lubuntu on a vps?
[10:33] <leszek> You don't need a GUI on a server
[10:34] <leszek> upps CSJanus not lubot xD
[10:34] <leszek> those new IRC invading bots
[10:34] <leszek> :/
 I need it to run two programs that need GUI.
[10:36] <leszek> on a VPS? Makes no sense to me
 Nevertheless, I need more space...
[10:36] <leszek> CSJanus use the following command to see which packages take the most of your space:
[10:37] <leszek> dpkg-query --show --showformat='${Package;-50}\t${Installed-Size}\n' | sort -k 2 -n -r | grep -v deinstall | awk '{printf "%.3f MB \t %s\n", $2/(1024), $1}' | less
 Thanks, I will look into that. 👍
[19:22] <defdefred> I tried palemoon instead of firefox for a old PC with 1GB ram and it is really perfect
[19:23] <defdefred> I think that firefox is not the best choice for lubuntu because of its enormous memory footprint
[19:24] <defdefred> having palemoon in the official ubuntu repo will be delightful ;-)
 👍
 defdefred: which presupposed that palemoon's already existing .deb packages get pushed by their packager into the Debian repos or into Ubuntu directly
 they're currently sitting on a Suse mirror
 so unless someone else packages it...
[21:36] <vedos> hello!
[21:36] <vedos> has anyone gotten Wickr Me to work on latest Lubuntu?
[23:53] <NinjaKirby> Greetings, I'm running v16.04.2, is this still the LTS version? When I try to apt-get update it fails majorly. Can't seem to install anything.
[23:54] <wxl> NinjaKirby 16.04 is ONE of the supported LTSes currently. could you pastebin what you're doing and what the results are?
[23:55] <NinjaKirby> Hmmm, can do, I'm just noticing in Terminal that it might be a DNS resolution problem.
 sounds like your DNS settings need updated, or your network isn't giving you good DNS servers / settings
[23:56] <NinjaKirby> Oh, yeah, sorry, I can't even get to google.co.uk, heh.
[23:57] <NinjaKirby> It's running as a VM, so that just increases the complexity, ugh.
[23:59] <NinjaKirby> Oh yay, I could just add additional DNS servers in the networking thing, it's working again.