[01:46]  * Dhraakellian looks into installing kubuntu onto her preexisting luks+LVM setup
[01:53]  * Perdellian doesn't see an option for decrypting sda5 in the installer
[02:12] <Perdellian> and I'm also not seeing any of my logical volumes once I do cryptsetup luksOpen
[02:12]  * Perdellian is totes not panicking right now
[02:14] <Perdellian> hrm... does it not realize there's a VG there?
[02:29] <Perdellian> okay, *now* I'm panicking. my /boot is empty except for lost+found
[02:30] <Perdellian> I never hit the install button. where did my existing stuff go?
[02:41] <Perdellian> only thing I can think of is that I did type my existing luks password into the PW fields for the guided encrypted lvm line before thinking better and choosing manual again
[02:42] <Perdellian> but again, without hitting install, that shouldn't do anything
[06:38] <valorie> Perdellian: did you find your stuff?
[06:38] <valorie> before hitting "install" afaik nothing happens
[10:16] <Sircle> Question: If I install windows 10, do a dual boot after installing kubuntu 18x then. But I encrypt all the harddisk while doing this (the harddish that had windows and kubuntu on it), will I have any problems while running windows?  I think the decryption is done on the fly by kubuntu OS. If windows is runing, it will not be able to decrypt.
[11:40] <Sircle> I just installed windows 10 and then kubuntu 18.04. There is no grup option of kubuntu and the windows just run up. What should I do?
[11:42] <hateball> Sircle: Wait for someone that knows about dual boot to show up, I guess :)
[11:43] <hateball> Possibly try #ubuntu also, if it is uefi/grub issues it should be the same regardless of DE
[11:43] <hateball> oh I see you have
[11:43] <Sircle> :)
[11:43] <Sircle> ok
[11:43] <hateball> Eric^ in #ubuntu tends to know these things iirc
[11:44]  * hateball does not use Windows, has no idea :/
[11:44] <Sircle> why ubuntu was made? free software dont give the vendor any money
[11:44] <hateball> !foss
[11:44] <hateball> !freedom
[11:45] <hateball> You can choose to pay for services and development and such, this makes the vendor money. But that's better discussed in #kubuntu-offtopic :)
[11:45] <Sircle> why would any one work for free?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[16:12] <mparillo_> Why do the birds sing?
[16:24] <BluesKaj> heh
[16:24] <BluesKaj> hey mparillo_
[16:42] <mparillo_> Hey BluesKaj
[16:43] <mparillo_> IIRC, you do not use a bouncer so you may have missed that my 'Why do the birds sing?' was in response to 'why (sic) would any one (sic) work for free?'
[16:49] <BluesKaj> haven't used a bouncer in a while, the one i used kept crashing so i gave it up
[17:01] <Mrokii> Hi. This isn't directly a problem caused by Kubuntu (I guess), but I can't get Pyside2 for Python3 installed via Synaptic, because of unmet dependencies. Did anybody on 18.10 try that?
[17:32] <EvilRoey> hi
[17:32] <EvilRoey> BluesKaj: hi!
[17:32] <EvilRoey> why did my second screen shift to a lower resolution??
[17:33] <EvilRoey> and when I try to launch systemsettings5, the app segfaults
[17:33] <EvilRoey> I'm on kubuntu 18.04
[19:51] <jubo2> Hello. A friend had a problem, probably something broke his SDDM (no loging screen, only a blinking text cursor in the upper-lefthand corner and the mouse cursor on an otherwise blank screen. We patched around this by installing LDXE, but that is stopping him from running LibreOffice. So I think we would like to try something to fix the SDDM
[19:51] <jubo2> We don't know what broke the SDDM
[20:08] <valorie> does re-installing sddm work?
[20:09] <valorie> the only time I had problems I found that there was other dms installed somehow -- removed a lightdm and kdm!
[20:09] <valorie> once those were removed and sddm was reinstalled everything Worked
[20:10] <valorie> ldxe kept him from running libreoffice?
[20:10] <jubo2> valorie: there is not install candidate for kdm
[20:10] <valorie> right, and I have no clue how that got in there
[20:11] <valorie> this was a couple years ago when it was still available I guess
[20:11] <valorie> apt-cache policy is your friend for finding how what is and is not involved
[20:12] <jubo2> valorie: do you know what is the relation of sddm and kdm. Are they somehow connected or are they alternatives for something?
[20:13] <valorie> kdm used to be the KDE equiv to gdm
[20:13] <jubo2> 'apt show kdm' says "not a real package (virtual)"
[20:13] <valorie> then Ubuntu went to lightdm and so did we
[20:14] <jubo2> currently he has 'sddm' and 'ldxe' installed
[20:14] <valorie> however, they required a CLA to work on it, and our devels didn't want to sign that, and KDE was beginning to support SDDM, so we went to that
[20:14] <jubo2> so should maybe try installing lightdm?
[20:14] <valorie> ldxe isn't a DM
[20:14] <valorie> !ldxe
[20:15] <jubo2> I may have the wrong letters in there
[20:15] <jubo2> ok.. I had the wrong order of letters. I meant lxde
[20:16] <jubo2> valorie: I got him to check if /etc/sddm.conf had been touched lately (prior to his Kubuntu not giving any login screen) and that file had not been touched for months
[20:16] <valorie> LXDE is the default desktop environment of Knoppix, Lubuntu, LXLE Linux and Peppermint Linux OS - among other distributions
[20:16] <valorie> it isn't a login manager
[20:17] <jubo2> I don't know the difference between a desktop environment and a login manager. Sorry about that
[20:17] <valorie> well, in Kubuntu the thing you see when you first login is SDDM
[20:18] <valorie> Plasma is the desktop environment
[20:18] <valorie> if you ran lubuntu (an older one) you'd see instead lxde
[20:18] <valorie> when you run ubuntu you see gnome
[20:19] <jubo2> ok. so LXDE is not a replacement for SDDM, but it allows him to login to a system that seems really foreign for him
[20:19] <valorie> I think that lubuntu uses lightdm as their login manager as well
[20:19] <valorie> right, probably uses lightdm
[20:20] <valorie> to make it more complicated, grub usually allows you to login to either the lxde or plasma
[20:20] <jubo2> So I gather something broke his SDDM and I would like to help him to fix it.
[20:20] <valorie> but these days they will all be labelled ubuntu
[20:20] <valorie> !sddm
[20:20] <valorie> hmmm
[20:21] <valorie> no help text from ubottu
[20:21] <valorie> !lightdm
[20:21] <valorie> wow
[20:21] <jubo2> but isn't plasma started only after the SDDM has finished its bit? Sorry for not knowing about these things. For me Kubuntu just works
[20:21] <jacky> isn't it !dpkg $pkg
[20:21] <jacky> like
[20:21] <jacky> !dpkg sddm
[20:22] <valorie> jubo2: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/SDDM will probably shed light
[20:23] <jubo2> Ok.. so Display Manager is something on top of which the Desktop Environment runs?
[20:36] <valorie> jubo2: sort of *into which* you enter the desktop environment
[20:36] <valorie> not a very big piece of code I think
[20:37] <valorie> compared to Plasma at least
[21:22] <Quantos> Hi, running KUbuntu 18.04
[21:22] <Quantos> It seems to take it a long time to shutdown or log off
[21:22] <Quantos> I'm unable to find a timer on it
[21:22] <Quantos> Not sure what I'm looking for
[21:43] <valorie> oh, left
[22:35] <chrisrc1111> hello. i have a strange problem with sharing folders via samba. i can access some folders (security = user), but not others. in the latter case the log says "_servicenumber: couldn't find chris ...
[22:35] <chrisrc1111> the user exists and the password is correct. file persmissions are also correct