[00:04] Is there some sort of desktop version installer without all the gnome stuff? [00:05] drdo: yeah, its called gentoo [00:06] :) [00:06] moss: Yeah, I've been using gentoo for many years :P [00:06] I was being serious though [00:07] there's kubuntu, xubuntu etc [00:07] using kde and xfce respectively [00:07] Cheez: I want xmonadbuntu or stumpwmbuntu [00:08] :P [00:09] not sure there are official flavours for that, you could go ubuntu server then set up your own WM as you wish [00:09] or see if there are unofficial flavours with them [00:10] Cheez: Is ubuntu server just a minimal install? [00:10] or just start with ubuntu desktop and go through the (maybe somewhat painful) process of apt-get removing all the gnome stuff and installing whatever you wish [00:11] drdo: i don't know it well enough to answer that. I know it doesn't by default come with a desktop environment [00:11] but I don't know what other differences it has [00:14] drdo: http://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/ <- Mininal install with options ; https://unit193.net/xubuntu/core/ . [00:15] Bashing-om: That still has xfce [00:16] drdo: It 'can' have xfce . or whatever you want .. else there is also a minimal ' build your own ' ubuntu install . [00:17] !minimal | drdo [00:17] drdo: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [00:19] ubottu: Oh cool, is it hard to navigate to from the main site? [00:19] drdo: ubuntu server is NOT simply just a minimal install of ubuntu desktop [00:19] Didn't find it [00:20] tatertotz: That's the impression I had === stormbard_away is now known as stormbard [00:22] drdo: I expect the D/L links in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD are valid . [00:38] hi! i just downloaded and installed ubuntu alongside windows 10 for the first time and i have a couple questions: why are my headphones not working while built in speakers in my computer monitor are working properely? besides that, ubuntu seems to be working slower (i mean graphics). dragging windows is laggy, scrolling through a webpage is laggy etc. i think something is not working properely can someone help me? [00:41] szymonszymekv: Laptop ? optimus graphics ? [00:42] peace [00:42] not a laptop - desktop pc, and my graphics is nvidia gtx 750 ti [00:43] szymonszymekv: Have you installed the nvidia proprietary driver ? ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' [00:45] yes i have: this is the result https://pastebin.com/CRc4jmZ2 [00:47] hey guys, that is the explode command? im tyring to find the equivalent in centos [00:49] okay so i just fixed the audio problem but i have no idea what to do with the graphics [00:49] szymonszymekv: Why is nvidia-settings removed: " rc nvidia-settings " ? and what release is this ? [00:52] it's ubuntu 18.04 [00:52] hi [00:53] and i removed nvidia x server settings because i was just trying anything to fix it but i just reinstalled it [00:56] szymonszymekv: Let's see what the graphic's manager has to say ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' . As we are looking for a reason why . [00:57] result: https://pastebin.com/gysaf9HM === Katnip- is now known as Katnip [01:05] szymonszymekv: In that gpu-manager.log file I see no hints of any issues . At this point I do not know what else to advise to try and find the problem. Now above my skill set. [01:05] thanks for your time bashing [01:05] i'll keep looking for solution [01:07] szymonszymekv: There are several threads on this issue in ubuntuforums.org . Might get some pointers there . === stormbard is now known as stormbard_away [01:22] On this page, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-pip/+changelog it says "Deleted in wily-proposed on 2018-01-22 (Reason: moved to release)". What does this mean? [01:24] er, my real question is, which version did this patch become default "debian/patches/set_user_default.patch: Default to --user on non virtualenv" [01:26] !info python-pip xenial [01:26] python-pip (source: python-pip): alternative Python package installer. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.1.1-2ubuntu0.4 (xenial), package size 140 kB, installed size 620 kB [01:27] Bashing-om: you're saying it happened in xenial? [01:28] energizer: see the results ' apt changelog python-pip ' . [01:31] Bashing-om: "d/patches/set_user_default.patch: Port from Ubuntu." 2016-02-10. Does that mean the patch was rolled out to users on that day? [01:33] energizer: Sorry, will take one more familiar with package management than I to answer that properly . [01:34] Bashing-om: no worries, thanks [01:35] energizer: I will stay tuned in :) Inquiring minds want to know . [01:58] hi there, can anyone help me to copy and paste backup folder in Lubuntu? [01:58] its giving me permission denied for whatever reason [01:58] the flash drive has ext4 that was formatted with GParted [02:08] can anyone help me with a usb drive issue in lubuntu? [02:09] Hi guys and ladies [02:10] I'm on Ubuntu 18.04 and trying to allow users to login (ssh) using password [02:10] So I uncomment PasswordAuthentication yes and restart ssh using service ssh restart [02:11] But the user still can't login with error "Permission denied (publickey)." [02:20] fairuz, well, PasswordAuthentication is on by default, so you shouldn't even have needed to uncomment it. Is it possible the user has turned it off in their .ssh/ssh_config? always useful to try "ssh -vvv " in these cases to see what ssh is trying [02:23] rfm I'm using DigitalOcean VPS and they disabled this by default [02:23] the user is a freshly created user, I don't think it even has a .ssh folder yet [02:23] Let me paste the -vvv output [02:24] I hope you mean pastebin ;) [02:25] of course :) [02:25] https://pastebin.com/ept3QPGj [02:27] fairuz, DO might have compiled in the option so you can't change it. Maybe purge their version and reinstall from the Ubuntu repos? [02:28] rfm hm actually I have several Ubuntu servers before this and never have a problem [02:28] but this is the first time I use Ubuntu 18 [02:28] fairuz, the -vvv log definitely shows only publickey offered (see line 186, would mention "password") [02:28] the other servers are on Ubuntu 14 [02:29] fairuz, hmm. maybe you need to restart sshd with "systemctl restart ssh.service?" I thought service continued to work for compatiblity... [02:29] ah service is deprecated now? Sorry [02:31] ah people from #openssh told me that I modified the wrong config file [02:31] I need to modify sshd_config instead of ssh_config [02:32] fairuz, yeah, that would do it [02:35] thanks rfm [02:35] btw, systemctl will replace service? [03:12] Hi - what's an app I can use to test webcam funtion on a netbook? [03:13] Cheese [03:13] HipHop-openbox: thanks [03:14] No problem could have googled that... [03:15] Cheese has been around for long time [03:15] yeah, but i felt like asking a freenode channel with many experts would give better quality results than random google hits. [03:17] well, i'll be danged - it Just Worked (tm) [03:18] guvcview is good also [03:20] JeffATL, lol driver would be issue if it didn't work [03:23] Just make sure you don't turn webcam off with function key otherwise you will be back asking why it stopped working [03:27] Running ubuntu 18.10 Desktop, xinit session instead of gnome. Is there a way to keep my machine from entering standby/hibernate? [03:43] Hey Gang, quick question....i have 8gbs of ram. How big should my swap space be for 18.04? [03:43] Back in the olden days(late 90s..early 2000s) it use to be the rule of thumb of doubling the size of your ram..... [03:43] is that still true? [03:45] gijoe3k: hybernation a factor ? then it is the amount of ram plus a bit . [03:46] No, i wont be using hibernation. It seems that...from what i found on the net....hibernation is bad for ssd, which i have one installed. [03:49] gijoe3k: depending on what you do - heavy duty -chances are a small swap will be just fine. 8 Gigs, swap will rarely be touched in every day use . A small swap is cheap insurance . [03:50] gotcha, thanks @Bashing-om [03:51] gijoe3k: with 8GiB RAM having, say, 1GiB swap would give you a little bit of a "knee" to your performance dropoff if you somehow go nuts on there === Dreaman is now known as Blade [03:54] bigger swap gives you diminishing returns if you go even more nuts because i assume you have just one drive - it'll just sit there and thrash. it might sort itself out eventually but the machine would basically be useless [04:00] I now have a problem with firefox (LTS 18.04), it offers to reboot, every time it starts and after restarting again, in a loop. (these are 2 restarts in a loop): https://bpaste.net/show/23032c020c33 [04:04] Someone screwed up firefox or ubuntu itself lately, pretty badly [04:06] and now when started FF aether crashes when opening tab or stays but can't open any web page and behaviour is erratic. thunderbird too crashing : https://bpaste.net/show/4cdf0fd43441 [04:07] Firefox developer, I also have installed in shared dir can't now open any remembered tabs and doesn't display anything in them.. and it's not shipped by ubuntu.. [04:07] Something's terribly wrong here from the day before.. [04:09] https://bpaste.net/show/dec5992a4bcd [04:09] maybe because fro some reason it didn't enable swap? [04:10] because it is commented out.. in /etc/fstab .. after update.. ?? [04:11] no it's not that. It's about zfs pool not being imported and swap is there (on ssd) [04:14] and now with swap enabled, FF dev edition opens sessions and display web pages.. so, Firefox cou;dn't work, because swap partition were not mounted, because for some wird reason ZFS wasn't mounting pool where swap was (in a zfs block volume) [04:19] So question is, why everything falls apart when swap is not there for any reason? [04:19] And why sometimes ZFS in UBuntu doesn't mount pools. [04:32] What's your output of "free"? [04:47] AndyChow888, https://bpaste.net/show/a2d3309bff0f [04:48] Now ff starts and works with swap. [04:48] eve 0 B used on it. [04:48] But, your swap shows 0B used. [04:49] yeah I think I tweaked things to represent available RAM as related to ram+swap. I tied to defend from machine blocking every time Firefox fills the RAM on some Youtube videos playing.. [04:50] It didn't help. And behaves bad when swap is not there [04:50] So sub-question is, Why Linux in general can't defend itself from App filling RAM and blocking whole machine [04:51] (network continues, screen freezes and can't ssh into it) maybe it is constant need to overcommit? [04:52] I don't know enough about your setup to answer. I don't know how you can tweak ram+swap to show up as ram. [04:53] Maybe start atop, and see what's red. [04:57] I set swap up with double the Arch Linux recommended amount [04:58] i have put vm.overcommit_memory=2 in /etc/sysctl.conf and some other thing [04:58] That does not confuse ram and swap. Those are two different things. [04:58] but root problem is machine freezing when FF decides to fill the RAM [05:01] App should die when trying to use too much RAM and otherwise deal itself with it, not hogging machine. [05:02] Apps do get killed when using all the RAM. The core is dumped. [05:02] So I'm not convinced by what you say. [05:02] Google see if there is a way to kill app in ff settings [05:03] AndyChow888, not as I see it. machine gohs when FF decides to eat all RAM after half or day on [05:03] I think FF is more likely to saturate your IO or something else. Your swap file is not being used, by what you posted. [05:04] Unused ram is wasted ram. Most of it is probably cached data. [05:04] it happens on some video playing from youtube, afte say, day of active use of FF session. [05:04] Probe ur ram [05:04] All that ovecommit thing is a problem I think. [05:04] Yeah. It also happens if you move files around a lot. It's cache, not active RAM. [05:05] HipHop-openbox, like at one moment, there is 40% free of RAM, swap not used and in next moment machine freezes and can't ssh to it [05:05] but routing and IP works... [05:06] Probe ur cache . Or I'll take ur cash. :D [05:06] In your free output, 1.5 G of ram was free. But 4.5 G was immediately available, if some app asked for it. The difference is cache, ie optimization, not actual use. [05:07] Cache virtually eats hard drive space if I remember right [05:07] Buffer/cache is just data that you might need, but isn't used. So if ever your cpu asks for it, it doesn't have to ask your hard-drive, the data is there. But if anyone needs the space, it's discarded. [05:08] Cache is something that makes your computer faster. [05:08] maybe oom killer should nail misbehaving app [05:09] i better like FF to die , report bug on it's leaking and not needing to hard reboot machine [05:09] nikolam, I tried. Your problem is not a memory leak. But whatever. I'm out. [05:10] Memorized data written to hard drive in Windows not sure Linux our unix takes this approach [05:10] AndyChow888, it sure shows RAM filled up before freezing [05:11] monitor it with atop, and you'll see that your bottleneck is elsewhere. [05:11] and it all starts FF playing some video after a day on. And dydtem chokes after FF goes crazy. [05:11] Kill Firefox purge uninstall remove autoremove .. [05:11] ok [05:12] Copy bookmarks not sure will help 100% [05:13] Anyone think a virus could do this in Linux? [05:15] HipHop-openbox, not sure, unless it is coming through proprietary snaps , everything else is coming from source viewed by many eyeballs, binaries are from ubuntu distro, that's what distros are for. [05:16] Talking about browsing internet porn [05:17] You won't get public eyeballs on code on proprietary platforms, so unless proprietary binaries and untrusted sources binaries, fat chance. But Viruses on Linux os unix-like systems are possible. [05:17] HipHop-openbox, it's youtube. I elliminate problems with rouge sites with Noscript/Privacy badger Firefox addons on such sites. [05:18] Could always run clam can do from usb stick [05:19] there are also rootkits. And spyware embedded in firmware. viruses ar not even an important part. that is like Ms-windows mindset :P [05:20] Linux is beyond secure, if you update regularly and don't expose yourself directly to the internet. [05:20] HipHop-openbox, I know mostly what's the prob. oom killer not killing an app that isbihaves. and i set memory allocation to 50% of memory+swap. So when swap was not there, it failed to give RAm to app [05:21] AndyChow888, I am very worried about proprietary 'snaps' . yes Isolated. But accessing user data , so.. [05:21] AndyChow888, what you think is important to see in atop [05:21] What proprietary snaps? [05:22] snaps aren't proprietary [05:22] In atop, just wait for something to turn red. Blue is ok, red is a bottleneck. === coffeeguy is now known as koffeeguy [05:24] AndyChow888, what are these snaps? Never heard this reference before [05:24] AndyChow888, meaning, proprietary software that is coming through snap [05:25] HipHop-openbox, like container for untrusted apps on linux desktop on Ubuntu [05:26] I see it again as ms-windows mindset , useful for third parties not trusting users with their source. [05:26] Lol! This is why we have trusted servers. I wouldn't allow anyone to just add apps [05:26] AndyChow888, on, waiting for red. yet I usually have just a few seconds before it fills RAm and freezes. I might better log something. [05:27] HipHop-openbox, "trust" is overrated :P [05:27] Not on Arch Linux PC.. [05:28] Rolling distros ppl don't like install [05:28] Red yet [05:29] Fide sed vide [05:29] Anyone using a VPN getting past your policy? === drdo_ is now known as drdo === avelardi_alt is now known as avelardi === [Ben] is now known as MrC [06:36] I'm using ubuntu 18.04. I've installed gulp and gulp-cli in a local project dir. If I invoke gulp I get 'command not found'. How can I successfully invoke gulp? [06:38] bobdobbs, you need to add the path to your environment variables. [06:38] From where you installed it, if you run ./gulp , does it work? [06:40] AndyChow888: the gulp executable gets installed somewhere under node_modules. I'll try and find it to execute it directly [06:41] To find it, you can use "locate". "locate gulp". Or "updatedb", and then "locate gulp", if your install is recent. [06:41] yeah, if I do 'node ./node_modules/gulp-cli/bin/gulp' then it works [06:42] Ok, so export that to your path. [06:42] like "export PATH=$PATH:/path/to/my/program" [06:42] but won't this path have to be different every time I create a project? [06:42] Yes. [06:43] I think I'd prefer a solution that doesn't rely on my changing the PATH variable every time I need to use a nodejs binary [06:43] Then you need to use some sort of package manager. [06:43] I use node tools often. Sometimes for throwaway tests. [06:44] Or have a common path to your throwaway projects. [06:44] I'm sure I've got this working on another machine without having to constantly edit the path, and without using a package manager [06:44] I just wish I remember how I set it up [06:45] Well, I'm open to hearing any other solution. [06:45] Is AData su650 ssd ok to buy? [06:45] i just installed @angular/cli to the global node_modules and it worked fine [06:45] i can call ng without doing anything else [06:46] MKUltraMagnus: I tried a global intall of gulp/gulp-cli, but still had the path issue. But I'd prefer to run nodejs binaries from the local project anyway [06:46] bobdobbs, alternatives could be `alias` (a shorthand way to run a command where part of path is defined), or `ln -s` with a command that executes it in /usr/local/bin (or equiv) - just ideas [06:47] did you install node / npm via https://github.com/nodesource/distributions ? [06:47] guiverc: my preference would be to execute the locally-installed node binaries, rather than the global ones [06:47] so just edit your package.json commands to run them from that local node_modules folder then [06:48] MKUltraMagnus: I installed from a PPA. Can't remember which one [06:48] 'gulp' './node_modules/bin/gulp [06:48] sup [06:48] then you can npm run gulp [whatever] [06:48] Sircle: join ##hardware [06:49] MKUltraMagnus: what do I need to read to figure out how to do that> [06:49] well npm run gulp -- --whatever if you need to pass something [06:49] just npm install [package name] --save dev [06:49] --save-dev [06:49] then edit the package.json scripts part to point to the bin inside node_modules [06:50] or if you just want to use something as a fire-and-forget without installing just run npx [package name] -- options_whatever_goes_here [06:50] if it's just occassional use and you don't need it to be a proper dependency [06:51] bobdobbs, you could always use ~/bin instead of global /usr/lo.. (alias can be user defined) [06:51] ah looks like npx is the prefered way to do it anyway [06:51] so just npm install gulp --save-dev [06:52] then use npx gulp [whatever] and it should default to the installed version inside /node_modules [07:00] hey [07:01] welcome stevwills [07:01] AndyChow888, did you fix firefox problem.. [07:01] I've never had a firefox problem. [07:02] Some guy that didn't understand ram caching data thought he did. [07:03] AndyChow888, funny guy [07:04] Well don't how he was administrator to a system [07:04] Cache should have been easy to understand in Windows [07:05] HipHop-openbox: discussions in #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic please [07:05] Ok [07:05] thank you [07:11] I just realized something about adding gulp to my PATH using a relative path: even if I do this, I can't possibly anticipate all possible dependancies of all possible future projects. But surely node devs don't alter their PATH for every required path for every node package? What is the conventional way for handling this? [07:12] well normally you just install them to your global npm's node_modules folder with -g and forget about it [07:13] if they're project specific then they become a project dependency in that project's package.json where you can version them with a package-lock.json or shrinkwrap [07:20] hmmm [07:21] I did try to install gulp/gulp-cli globally, but still had the path issue. But even if I solved it for gulp, it'd apply to all the dependancies of whatever I'm using afaict [07:22] I don't often use a package.json. So maybe if I figure out how to use it, I might start solving the problem. [07:22] Like, I think I can see how to run gulp from 'scripts' in package.json. So I might start testing that approach [07:53] Hi, is it usual that the swap partition just fills but does not release unused "space" ? There is enough free RAM, swapiness is the defualt of 60 [07:57] hudo, the only case I can think of is a program malloc() ram, but never returns/releases it.. ie. bad/sloppy code. good OS theory says to keep some ram available (in case a program mallocs) which can be reduced by changing swappiness... i don't have an answer though; just thoughts === capella is now known as capella|away [08:12] guiverc, np, maybe you have some documentation an SWAP behaviour, there is a lot about the behaviour of RAM but i found nothing especially about swap behaviour [08:13] since last reboot i just observed the swap partition is slowly but constantly filling and never releasing again some space [08:15] this may help with swappiness (https://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness, along with wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq) - but most of my thoughts were from OS theory & programming background [08:15] with vmstat however i saw the number for swpd decreasing sometimes a little ( very little ) but after a while it increased agin [08:17] hudo: i'd second guiverc, the issue is not with your (default) swap configuration, but with some software you run. [08:17] well as far as I know swappiness is about the RAM'S point of view, thats what I told, about RAM's behaviour there is docu, but what a baut the swap partition's point of view ? [08:18] the swp partition has no POV, it's just a dumb storage object, managed entirely by the kernel. [08:18] lol [08:19] but you know what I mean ? [08:19] yes [08:19] so the question is, do I have to take action when swap partition will be almost full ? [08:19] i have to head out though, sorry [08:19] and if yes, which action ? [08:20] I'm pretty sure that some applications have memory leaks .... [08:21] in which case there's nothing you can do on kernel side [08:24] well the easiast action is to reboot, another way to "clear" swap partion requires that there is enough RAM if swap is taken off [08:26] hudo, you may find just logging out & back in corrects situation (rather than reboot; when your DEsktop kills all programs, the OS should free() up the malloc'd ram from processes that are being killed..) [08:30] there is a database running the machine, and the memory for the database is limited. I just connect sometimes via vnc to the machine. === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka [08:35] hudo: are you sure you arent looking at an artefact? do you have OOM process kills? [08:37] hudo: be carefull with vnc, its a big security risk these days [08:37] what do you mean with out-of-memory kills ? I do not kill processes, the system works fine at the moment ( till now ) [08:38] lotuspsychje, I konw, its used in the lan. [08:49] anybody run ubuntu on windows 10 [08:50] i know nightmare i just had a ? [08:50] !ubuwin | WBILL [08:50] WBILL: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide [08:50] really i have to goto the windows forum..ughhh!! [08:51] i rather ingest hydrochloric acid [08:52] hudo: does this return anything? dmesg | grep -A3 oom_kill [08:52] ok ill try the ubuntu-on-windows [08:52] WBILL: cool down please, we use seperate channels for different topics [08:52] lotus im kidding im a stand-up sit-down comic [08:53] thanks for the info [08:55] hudo: if it does, this would suggest the kernel uses oom killer https://www.kernel.org/doc/gorman/html/understand/understand016.html to handle a low memory situation occurrring on your system, effectively killing 'random' (not really, but it may seem this way) processes. [09:01] tomreyn, there is no oom_kill remark in dmesg [09:04] hudo: so then the best thing to do is to watch the process list and the processes VSZ + RSS and the system wide vmstat over time. [09:05] the former can be seen in the output of 'ps auxw', the latter just requires running vmstat, or vmstat -s [09:05] most standard system monitoring utilities will capture these values for you. [09:18] tomreyn, with a script I see the sums of the /proc/pid/smaps and it turns out that nm-applet and mission-control are on top of the swapping list [09:19] what is the mission-control [09:26] hudo: there is telepathy-mission-control which is a component of telepathy: https://telepathy.freedesktop.org/about/ [09:26] but there are also other softwares which use this name. [09:38] hudo: this said, if you dont use telepathy (the instant messenger integrated into ubuntu) then you can just uninstall it and everything else will keep working. [09:45] if I CTRL-ALT-F2 during installation and add/remove kernel modules (in order to make a usb wifi dongle work) should the results show up later in the installation process? [09:45] anyone ever seen this issue whenever i run screen it gives me this error basically because it wont keep /run/screen dir there as a temp or other i guess [09:46] Cannot make directory '/run/screen': Permission denied [09:50] nm i found a good fix [09:58] Question: If I install windows 10, do a dual boot after installing kubuntu 18x then. But I encrypt all the harddisk while doing this (the harddish that had windows and kubuntu on it), will I have any problems while running windows? I think the decryption is done on the fly by kubuntu OS. If windows is runing, it will not be able to decrypt. [10:00] Sircle: What exactly does "encrypt all the harddisk" mean? [10:00] vlt, are you asking me coz you dont know? [10:01] Sircle: Yes. What did you use to do that? [10:01] vlt, kubuntu option [10:01] while installing it [10:01] Sircle: LUKS based? [10:01] whats luks? [10:02] Does anyone know how to install the Displays app on a minimal Ubuntu installation? [10:02] Sircle: LUKS is a block layer encryption system. You encrypt a block device. In your case most propably the *partition* Ubuntu runs from. [10:02] Sircle: Windows shouldn't be affected. [10:02] no. ful hdd [10:03] Sircle: Can you paste the output of `lsblk` to a (decent) pastebin? [10:16] vlt, look, I have not installed anything yet. I am asking as a precaution [10:16] Question: If I install windows 10, do a dual boot after installing kubuntu 18x then. But I encrypt all the harddisk while doing this (the harddish that had windows and kubuntu on it), will I have any problems while running windows? I think the decryption is done on the fly by kubuntu OS. If windows is runing, it will not be able to decrypt. [10:20] Sircle, the encrypt process is done to a partition or device (eg. drive) and is destructive generally to anything previously there; thus if w10 was there it'll get lost. This is why vlt asked you to provide lsblk I think (list block devices), as it'd show if you had multiple partitions, .. either i've misunderstood what you're wanting, or you've made it unclear (eg. is w10 on a different drive?) [10:23] guiverc, I wrote "But I encrypt all the harddisk while doing this (the harddish that had windows and kubuntu on it)" [10:23] guiverc, vlt but now things are clear to me. [10:23] guiverc, vlt is there a way to encrypt full drive by another tool? [10:23] so it will keep both windows and ubuntu runing? [10:24] it can run both* [10:24] Sircle, you'd generally have Ubuntu encrypted (by itself in partition(s)) , and have Windows with it's own encryption (different partitions), thus all drive is encrypted (by two mechanisms, not one; yes if you didn't use fastboot it may be possible still use both at the same time even if encrypted seperately) [10:27] guiverc, "use both at same time"? how? [10:28] Secondly, is there an option to encrypt only the partiion and not the full drive while installing kubuntu? [10:28] i was thinking of 'mount' (mounting) both partitions; so for example you could mount your windoze partition so you could read data from it whilst running Ubuntu... it was thinking in that way === rymate1234 is now known as rymate1234_ [10:32] If I run windows 10 inside a vm with ubuntu as host. Can I play games and use gpu? I have dell M6700 laptop [10:32] ? [10:35] Sircle, i can only answer generally; which is usually vm's don't have very good access to hardware, so if the game plays - it's not the same as if it had direct or real access.. i doubt it'll be what you're hoping for === rymate1234_ is now known as rymate1234__ === rymate1234__ is now known as rymate1234 [10:37] guiverc, a 20% performance loss is ok. Should I excpet more? [10:40] Sircle: Even a "full disk encryption" (FDE) in Ubuntu doesn't actually what the name suggests. There always has to be an unencrypted part somewhere that does the decryption work. So, FDE means *one* encrypted *device* that in most cases is a whole disk but a disk partition (or equivalent). [10:41] Sircle: Sorry, I a word: In most cases is *not* a whole disk. [10:43] k [10:43] Sircle, i'm not good at this; but vm's are not intended for games but processing data, workloads (getting 20% would be more hopeful for video hardware & still a stretch probably... vm is on real cpu; games offload to gpu & need direct access they don't have in a vm) [10:45] k [10:45] Sircle: you could always use some windows encryption to encrypt windows, and use home dir encryption to keep it simple [10:45] *home dir encryption on ubuntu [10:46] Sircle: or you could possibly use luks and whatnot to encrypt ubuntu fully, there are guides online on setting up encryption manually in ubuntu and not via the installer's defaults [10:49] EriC^^, ok [10:49] If I run windows 10 inside a vm with ubuntu as host. Can I play games and use gpu? I have dell M6700 laptop [10:49] ? [10:50] Sircle, simple games like solitaire will play. games that call the OS (windows) for functions will be fine, but games that expect direct hardware access don't have it (as not a real machine, a virtual one that speaks to the guest-OS) [10:51] the key '1' on keyboard of my laptop does not work. It does not type the nember "1", But Shift+1 is working, giving the exclamation mark on the screen; Is it a physical problem in the keyboard? [10:56] frenda, it'd mean it's not a mechanical one as the key words, but could be an electrical (circuit/logic) one inside the keyboard -- maybe try `xev` to see if you get reaction from it [10:57] (i just tried, it wasn't the tool i was thinking of.. it may still help) [10:57] hello, I have an issue with ubuntu 18.04 kernel 4.18.18-041818-generic, laptop lenvo x1 carbon gen3. When I close the laptop lid, it does not do anything. does anyone have any insight into this? [11:01] hi, when i boot using the bootable ubuntu installer to my macbook air machine I can’t seem to find a way to make the wifi adapter tick [11:02] is there something I’m missing lshw shows the Network adapter, but it fails to turn it on somehow, [11:04] try sudo rfkill list [11:04] i tried both 16.04 and 18.04 bootable versions, same thing [11:04] then sudo rfkill on [11:04] @waheedi check sudo rfkill list [11:05] strangely enough, the same machine and the same bootable disk used to make the wifi work out of the box, but after upgrading to mojave, something strange happened [11:05] iwconfig shows no wireless devices [11:07] waheedi: what tell you 'lspci | grep Wireless' [11:07] im currently on the mac side :) [11:07] guiverc: https://bpaste.net/show/1631bc677cec <-- mine [11:07] the problem it has no ethernet device :| [11:08] its like a horse without a tail [11:09] ledeni: you want the device’s driver name? [11:10] Broadcom 4360 [11:11] from mac : Broadcom BCM43xx [11:11] Supported PHY modes 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac [11:12] i noticed in the logs something wrong with a PHY mode [11:13] frenda, i can't help in that way; I'd have to see if there was a reaction on each keystrike.. you should be able to see if data comes in when you press SHIFT-1 and 1 .. that was my hope (ie. hopefully prove if it's a keyboard issue, or it sending the wrong keycode by comparing with another keyboard on your machine etc... [11:14] i found this artice https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers which seems to solve my issue, but how can i install bcmwl-kernel-source and firmware-b43-installer from source [11:15] because i will have no apt connection [11:15] found it https://askubuntu.com/questions/626642/how-to-install-broadcom-wireless-drivers-offline/626653#626653 [11:16] waheedi: if you want make work ubuntu i suggest buy usb adapter for Ethernet and because you never got work wireless out of box https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [11:16] i think it is not a possible option ledeni [11:16] very limited in budget :) [11:18] waheedi: than read link -- no internet access -- [11:19] yeah funny :) === LabMonkey is now known as Mechanismus [11:38] I just installed windows 10 and then kubuntu 18.04. There is no grup option of kubuntu and the windows just run up. What should I do? [11:40] o.O [11:46] Sircle, just to confirm you are booting and windows starts automaticly ? [11:47] yes [11:47] Mathisen, [11:47] and it is grub that is used as boot loader ? and there is only windows in the list ? [11:48] no grub appearing [11:48] ok so where did you choose during install to install grub [11:49] there was no such option ever seen. I used to installed older versions of kubuntu and no body ever asked me to install grub [11:50] and just to confirm again you did install windows FIRST and then kubuntu [11:50] where is that option appearing any way? [11:50] yes. windows 1st [11:51] ok boot the kubuntu install media as live and then report back here [11:51] ok [11:52] Sircle, it may have referred to it as Boot loader installation (and not grub on install program) - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing [11:54] Sircle, when you have the live running folow this > https://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd [11:54] please read it good so you dont mess upp. and if someone can confirm in here if os-prober is needed or not that would be good also [11:55] Mathisen, live cd booted [11:55] guiverc, ok [11:55] * Mathisen goes for coffee [11:56] where is that option appearing any way? to install grub? [12:00] Sircle, the link I gave was only a fyi; first picture may have been something like what you saw (pic was old; colors will be different as it showed ubuntu's orange/brown, not kubuntu's blue.. & different tabs to modern installer. but probably just distracted so sorry [12:01] hi [12:01] Sircle, Mathisen provided a link that'd help you fix (without re-install), it was to boot live, enter terminal & enter commands - the 'grub-install /dev/sdX' step installs grub (where you change the X to your device/drive letter) [12:03] guiverc, allow me a minute and paste link again please [12:06] guiverc, here [12:06] Sircle: https://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd [12:06] ok [12:08] I installed kubuntu in sda1 [12:08] Sircle, if you post the output from lsblk to https://ptpb.pw/f and give uss link i can help better [12:09] its mounted on mounted on ‘/media/kubuntu/73ccbec0-5096-46f4-9ec2-171060fc1012’ [12:09] ok Mathisen [12:11] how do i remove this repository http://ppa.launchpad.net/flosoft/cross-apple/ubuntu [12:11] Mathisen, uuid: 421df71f-5aa0-4f3e-8fb3-bb75b269848b [12:12] Sircle, type lsblk and copy everything to a pastebin site. then give link [12:12] !paste [12:12] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. 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