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virmahaOerHeks: i found a workaround00:03
virmahabut i've run into another issue...when I do apt-mark showauto on my machine, I can see  libqt4-help:i386. But when i do apt-mark install libqt4-help:i386, I get Unable to locate package libqt4-help:i38600:04
OerHeksmaybe you need to add architecture first, if the base is amd6400:09
OerHeksdpkg --add-architecture i38600:10
texlaHere is my df -h can some please tell me why so many snap entries and are they useful..https://pastebin.com/kXnCa7Lx00:15
OerHekssnap keeps basicly 3 versions on disk00:20
OerHeksyou could delete old versions, but i would let it be, they are just a few mb00:21
guiverctexla, maybe try `df -h -x"squashfs"`  (or make it via alias your default df if you must)00:21
texlaOerHeks, I went into files,snaps and logs and all the files were empty also other have to entries I WAS just wondering why 18.04 had snaps00:24
ChetManlywhat is the thing in windows 10 that lets you select which audio goes to which audio controller and what is the equavilant in ubuntu00:24
ChetManlyI cant use my front headphone jack for something different than the one the back can I?00:24
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OerHekssnaps are the new packages, universal, introduced in 16.0400:26
OerHekssee snap revert and snap remove https://itsfoss.com/use-snap-packages-ubuntu-16-04/00:28
texlaOerHeks, Thanks for the info00:30
aienaI need some help with ldd. It's picking up the right GL lib for .so.1 but not for .so  . Here is the command line dump with question in detail. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KRqpt6nHBf/ Can someone please help me fix order01:50
virmahahello. I exported some local packages using apt-get mark showauto and installed them from within docker. But it does something related to kernel and GRUB (Creating config file /etc/default/grub with new version)02:15
virmahahow do I prevent that? what component caused all that to be triggered?02:15
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CoolerZwhats the best virtualization software?02:50
CoolerZI used to use virtualbox on windows 1002:50
Ben64i use qemu/kvm with libvirt02:51
CoolerZbut looking in the software store it says proprietary license and never updated02:51
CoolerZBen64, i prefer a gui version02:51
Ben64it is02:52
CoolerZqemu is terminal based02:52
Ben64that's what the frontend is for02:52
CoolerZwhy is it better?02:53
Ben64works well, can do passthrough and all kinds of good stuff02:53
rfmCoolerZ, you can get the latest from virtualbox.org.  read the downloads page for how to set up the apt repos.  you'll get the gpl version unless you take the extra step of installing the proprietary extensions02:54
Avionhelp UBU18.04 -- i have restarted win10 partition for only 8 mins -Spectrum and I troubleshooting wifi. So now ubuntu wont boot. i get this. https://m.imgur.com/JFgSXyS03:15
Avioni am patiently waiting for help. Win10 hurt me03:21
Avionwhat's going on I've never seen #ubuntu dead.. and I have a problem.03:40
Bashing-omAvion: Just have to await one with EFI experience to verify what is in the EFI directory - that ain't me :(03:44
AvionBashing-om: can you give me a hint, what terms should I look up online.. just to keep busy?03:48
AvionI have also heard that newer Windows 10 updates will "mess" up ubuntu03:49
Avioni will look that up.. thanks.03:49
Bashing-omAvion: As a starting place is what one can see with 'efibootmgr -v' . If you can not boot to a terminal in the install, then from a liveUSB.03:58
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Avioni do get a prompt of a sort https://m.imgur.com/JFgSXyS04:00
Avionok will try04:00
Avionls works so it's a 0rompt04:01
Bashing-omAvion: initramfs prompt .. where says grub can not find its config files . As to the why I have not the experience with EFI to know what to look for .04:02
Avionefibootmgr not found Bashing-om04:02
Avioni will ... post to a forum maybe.04:03
Aviondo you know what crtcl is?04:04
Bashing-omAvion: From that prompt is a verry limited anount of commands .. just the bare minimum to mount the system and some troubleshooting tools.04:04
Bashing-omamount*04:05
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CoolerZBen64, hey06:32
CoolerZdoes qemu or kvm have the unsigned kernel module issue?06:33
CoolerZapparently for vbox to work you need to sign the vboxdrv and other modules or disable secure boot06:33
Ben64CoolerZ: idk i don't use secureboot06:51
rajivmarshi all. how to download ubuntu's default backgrounds of older versions07:01
rajivmars?07:01
guiverc_drajivmars, `apt-cache search wallpapers`  will show packages with wallpapers in the name; i'd massage that list into whatever you want (but I've not done it myself; there are a few non-wallpaper programs in the list that relate to wallpapers; eg. variety which isn't a wallpaper, but program to change wallpapers..)07:04
rajivmarsok07:05
rajivmarsi know that but i just wanted to see older default wallpapers in ubuntu.07:06
guiverc_dwell it'll show ubuntu-wallpapers-artful, ubuntu-wallpaper-bionic, ubuntu-wallpaper-karmic, ubuntu... etc.  which is all wallpapers for ubuntu, xubuntu, & other flavors...07:07
rajivmarsyeah. i am installing.07:07
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SuperLagYour mouse froze, and your system had to be hard rebooted. How do you find out what caused it?08:31
samba35if i want to add acs  patch to ununtu ,do i have to compile kenrel after add a patch ?09:04
samba35i am using 18.0409:04
Ben64dunno what that is, but if you want to patch the kernel, yeah you'd have to compile09:05
samba35ok09:05
samba35what are the package do i have to install to compile a kernel ,header and source and ?09:06
Ben64if you have to ask that kind of stuff, i'd recommend not compiling your own kernel09:06
samba35yes true but have to start at some time /some stage where09:07
samba35sorry but its must now i stuck very badly09:07
samba35Ben64, did you ever compile a kernel ?09:09
Ben64yep, about 15 years ago was my first09:10
samba35can you please help me to understand ?09:13
Ben64sorry, would take too long09:15
guiverc_dsamba35, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel09:15
Ben64upon googling, seems the acs patch is unnecessary for almost everyone09:16
Ben64so seems like a bad idea09:16
samba35then how to fix it ?09:18
ShekharReddyhey guys  I am facing this error  when switching on the bluetooth09:28
ShekharReddy `kernel: [ 6586.112460] Bluetooth: hci0: last event is not cmd complete (0x0f)`09:28
ShekharReddyOS Ubuntu 18.1009:28
tomreynShekharReddy: and this breaks something?09:30
ShekharReddyyes09:30
ShekharReddyno devices are recognised09:30
ShekharReddyi  googled the error message09:30
ShekharReddythere isn't much info that i could resolve09:30
tomreynShekharReddy: which bt device id? please post 'lsusb' and 'lspci -nn' output to the pastebin09:33
ShekharReddylsusb output https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/WjGEQpeB/lsusb09:35
ShekharReddythe other one https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/i4WVXU5D/09:36
ShekharReddytomreyn:  ^^09:36
tomreyn0a5c:216d is he bluetooth devic. you may want to sudo update-usbids09:37
ShekharReddydone09:37
ShekharReddydo i need to reboot the device09:38
ShekharReddylet me check once09:39
tomreynShekharReddy: no, this command you ran is just to get nicer output next time you run lsusb. it's not a fix for the bluetooth issue.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-utopic/+bug/1435681  discusses missing firmware on older ubuntu releases, may still be relevant09:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1435681 in linux-lts-trusty (Ubuntu) "Broadcom Bluetooth [0a5c:216a] does not work on 14.04.2" [Medium,New]09:40
tomreynyour chipset is a Broadcom BCM943142Y, a bluetooth + wireless combo chipset09:42
tomreyn802.11b/g/n WLAN + Bluetooth 4.0 NGFF 2230 Mini Card09:42
tomreynShekharReddy: try installing bcmwl-kernel-source09:45
ShekharReddysure09:46
tomreynShekharReddy: actully you need broadcom-sta-dkms09:48
ShekharReddytomreyn:  do i just install broadcom-sta-dkms09:49
ShekharReddy?09:49
tomreynShekharReddy: yes, i'm not entirely sure why there re both bcmwl-kernel-source and broadcom-sta-dkms, though, they effectively may do the same thing. one is in restricted, the other in multiverse, though09:52
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quemanyone got experience with ubuntu on the asus zenbook 14 ux433fn yet?10:01
quemit has a touchpad that is also a tiny display. i reckon that might be an issue?10:01
coconutIs there any "nvidia prime" aka tool for amd cpu + amd gpu?10:14
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MiaHello channel --- I have a server and I realized it was uing 100% cpu (was unable to connect)11:04
Miaso I power cycled it through the web UI11:04
Mianow is it possible which process was using my cpu before the power cycle was made?11:04
Miais it possible to learn* - I mean11:05
tchakatakMia: You can take a look on syslog to guess. But out of the box...11:05
Miawhere do I find it tchakatak11:06
tchakatakDo you have any ssh access on the server?11:06
Miayes now I do11:06
tchakatakTake a look on the files in /var/log11:06
Miaas I've power cycled the machine, whatever was using the cpu isn't using it any more11:06
tchakatakhow did you know the server was on 100%cpu ?11:07
MiaI've logged on to digitalocean and web UI is showing me a graph11:07
Miait's hired from digitalocean11:07
tchakatakmhh, did it happend just sudently ?11:09
Miarealized it happened 10 hours ago11:10
MiaI've realized I can't connect t omy machine11:10
Miaand I've logged into the console11:10
Miaand realized it's been running on 100% cpu for the last 10 hours11:10
Miaso, power cycled - but I don't know what was using the cpu so I want to learn11:10
tchakatakDid you lunch anyting before it happend ? any process ?11:10
MiaI already have a few processes running all the time11:11
Miathis is a website/server11:11
Miaso I have around 10 nodejs processes11:11
tchakataki would recommend to run each process and look at wich one is load.11:14
tchakatak*loading11:14
Miatchakatak, how can I see what WAS using the cpu11:18
Miathat's all I want to learn11:18
Miabecause this server is on for more than 3 years, this is the first time it's happening.11:19
tchakatakas i said, you can take a look into syslog to see if something went wrong at one point, but there is nothing recorded.11:20
tchakataksuch as highcpu reason. You will need monitoring tools to know why if it happend again.11:21
dptcI've installed Spotfy using snap and have the following command to use in the CLI to rescale for my 4k display "spotify --force-device-scale-factor=2". The issue is having this take place when opening Spotify using the icon on my dock. Usually, I'd change the Spotify.desktop file to include "Exec= $/PATH/spotify --force-device-scale-factor=2 but no such file exists when the application is installed using11:37
dptcsnap. Can anyone help me with this?11:37
IarlaIs it possible to format a partition to OSX Extended using GParted? It's the most compatible file system in our home.11:47
IarlaHFS is listed in gparted format options, but greyed out.11:48
IarlaLooks like hfsprogs just needed to be installed. They key search term was "hfs".11:52
IarlaOnly issue now is that I can't write to the partition after I mount it.11:53
tchakatakIarla: I'm not sure you can write on osx extended from linux. had the same thing with one of my external hard drive11:54
tchakatakBut if you want the 'most compatible' i would recommend you fat /exfat11:54
Iarlathanks tchakatak, that saves me chasing a wild goose. I have files over 4GB so FAT isn't useful for us. Is exfat better for large files?11:55
IarlaMac cannot write to NTFS so I'm not using that either.11:56
dptcexit11:58
tchakatakIf i remeber well you can write bigger file than 4gb on exfat11:58
tchakatakhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT11:58
IarlaThanks. Exfat it is so :)11:59
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mousesExFAT is like 16 Exobytes max file size or something insane12:16
mousesway more than you'll ever need12:16
IarlaIt's great, I never realised :)12:18
geirhaI bet someone said that about 4GiB as well12:19
fantomasHi guys. Is there such a thing which would recover from random touchpad clicks? When I type text on my laptop I'm constantly touching the Touchpad with my thumbs12:26
fantomasi would expect this to be fixed at the system side12:26
fantomasrather than at my imperfect brain side12:26
fantomasideas?12:26
BluesKajHi all12:27
tchakatakfantomas: Desactivate touchpad when your typing with a bind ?12:27
tchakatakHi BluesKaj12:28
tomreyni think there are desktops which offer an option to disable touchpad while your're typing12:28
fantomastchakatak: that looks like an overkill12:28
BluesKajHi tchakatak12:28
Kazdaxdoes anyone know if i can run paltalk on ubuntu ?12:29
Kazdaxi want to use ubuntu but this windows app is something i use alot12:29
fantomastchakatak: or rather - OS could do it by itself, as it;s ovbious that when I'm typing I don't use the TouchPad12:29
Kazdaxand i dont think there is anything new about the new paltalk12:29
Kazdaxi mean any infromation regarding running paltalk on ubuntu12:30
tchakatakfantomas: not really, play a game and use touchpad and keyboard by exemple12:31
tomreyntchakatak: gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad disable-while-typing12:31
tchakataktomreyn: Work only on gnome right ?12:31
BluesKajKazdax, install wine, then IE and paltalk12:32
BluesKaj!wine12:33
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu12:33
tomreyntchakatak: yes12:33
KazdaxBluesKaj, does those things still work ?12:33
BluesKajKazdax, also check this out https://ubuntuarmy.wordpress.com/tag/paltalk-on-linux/12:33
tomreyntchakatak: ther eis also this gnome extension which lets you automatically switch off the touchpad when a mouse is connected https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/131/touchpad-indicator/12:34
Iarlageirha: it was said about <1MB so I bet you're right :)12:35
fantomasMy old PC lost its video drivers after I upgraded to 18.0412:52
fantomasNow I don't know what is the proper way to install or fix video drivers. I own nVidia 980 GTX board12:53
fantomasIs SGFXI still in play?12:53
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ioriafantomas, are you on nouveau atm ?12:55
BluesKajfantomas, run this in the terminal, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes12:56
BluesKajprobly nouveau12:56
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fantomasBluesKaj: empty output13:00
ioriafantomas, cat /proc/cmdline13:00
fantomasSomething like: ... 4.15.0-39-generic root=... ro quiet splash vt.handoff=113:01
fantomasioria: ^^13:01
ioriafantomas, sudo lshw -c Video | pastebinit13:02
fantomasI cannot copy-paste - @ another PC now13:02
ioriafantomas, why ?13:02
fantomasioria: beacuse it has awful resolution and I cannot use X at all13:03
ioriafantomas,  bott with nomodeset or recovery -> resume13:03
ioria*boot13:04
fantomashttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HzPVF22ND2/13:04
ioriafantomas,  it's a desktoppc right ?13:04
fantomasyep rebooting13:05
ioriaok13:05
fantomasWhat am I suppose to press guys to get GRUB menu?13:05
fantomasShift doesn't work13:05
ioriafantomas,  try esc13:05
tomreynhit escape repeatedly then13:06
fantomasok lmt13:06
BluesKajleft shift13:06
BluesKajfantomas, the driver you need is the nvidia-39613:07
BluesKajodd that it didn't default to nouveau13:08
fantomasBlessJah_: ok, let me try to install it then... I cannot get into GRUB menu anymore13:10
fantomasSeems like Ubuntu 18.04 installer screwed it up completely13:10
fantomasLOL. After I said that it got into GRUB menu by default! Itself13:11
ioriafantomas,  do this,let it boot and then open a console13:11
fantomasNow booting in recovery mode13:12
ioriafantomas,  then resume13:12
fantomasOk I cannot install nvidia-396 beacuse it has no installation candidate13:23
fantomas390 - the same story13:23
ioriathere is no nvidia-396 or 396 in the ubuntu repo s13:23
ioriafor bionic i mean13:23
BluesKajdo you have install dkms installed?13:23
BluesKajoops13:23
ioriathe names have changed13:24
fantomasAh I see. https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux - was using this, thought it had13:24
ioriafantomas, and i din't tell you to install it13:24
fantomasI know, sorry, BluesKaj hinted :)13:24
ioria!info nvidia-driver-390 bionic13:25
ubottunvidia-driver-390 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-390): NVIDIA driver metapackage. In component restricted, is optional. Version 390.77-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 369 kB, installed size 1071 kB13:25
ioriaif you want 396 you need a ppa13:25
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fantomasI don't do I want it or not. 390 worked well before probably13:25
BluesKajhmm, thought the 396 was up to date13:25
fantomasubuntu-drivers list is showing exactly it - 39013:26
ioriafantomas, dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit13:26
BluesKajthen try the 390 for sure, apologies my mistake about the 396, fantomas13:26
fantomaslike it is installed. And ubuntu-drivers autoinstall makes nothing (like everything in its place already)13:26
fantomashttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/65rDYvbTWS13:28
fantomasioria: ^^13:28
BluesKajdoes running nvidia-xconfig  work? it used to13:29
IarlaHow have your experiences with exFat been with large drives? I've formatted a 1TB disk with it for compatibility between MacOS and Ubuntu, but I've just realised it's not journalled which makes me question it's suitability for backups. Does it endure?13:30
ioriafantomas, if i were you i'd purge it all (384 and 390), remove xorg.conf, reboot  ; check if nouveau works, (if not you use nomodeset) and reinstall nvidia13:31
ioriafantomas, disable secure boot (for a maxwell chipset)13:32
ioriafantomas,  anothe thing: check in /etc/modprobe.d/ if you still have  a nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf13:33
BluesKajguess I'm behind the curve on nvidia driver installs. I haven't used my old nvidia gpus for over 8 months13:34
BluesKajon this pc13:35
fantomasioria: thanks for the suggestion - I really had nvidia stuff in modprobe and it was blocking nouveau - moved it out13:42
ioriaok13:43
DbuggerHi everyone, I got a problem. I bought a Wifi Card ASUS PCE AC56, and installed the drivers listed under "Additional drivers", but I am getting only about 50 mbps, when my line is 100 mbps. I guess it must be driver issue, since I get 93 easily when booting Windows. Is there any way I can get better performance??13:46
Dreamanyou internet is 50 mb/s13:49
DbuggerDreaman, my internet line is 100mbps13:51
BluesKajDbugger, try it on google speed test13:51
Dbuggerbut on Ubuntu I can only reach, at max, 60 mbps13:51
Dreamanmy is 1gb/s and13:52
DbuggerBluesKaj, same results13:52
Dreamancall isp13:52
DbuggerDreaman, it works on Windows 1013:52
Dbuggerso it is not a problem with the line13:53
Dreamanok13:53
BluesKajDbugger, using the bcmwl-kernel-source driver?13:56
DbuggerBluesKaj, not sure.. how can I check that?13:56
BluesKajlook in your package manager13:57
DbuggerBluesKaj, seems to be already installed in the system13:58
Dbuggernot sure if that means that I am actually using it, though...13:58
TJ-Dbugger: can you show us "pastebinit <( iwconfig )"13:59
BluesKajDbugger, run,  modprobe wl , in the terminal13:59
Dbuggerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZMWwMnnmmc/13:59
DbuggerBluesKaj, done. Nothing happened (apparently)14:00
BluesKajDbugger, that modprobe command should load the driver, there's no output if it's loaded14:00
DbuggerBluesKaj, there was no output :/14:00
BluesKajok14:01
TJ-Dbugger: strange; that output should include the signal quality and any error/retry counts.14:01
TJ-Dbugger: can you try again as root: "pastebinit <( sudo iwconfig )"14:01
DbuggerTJ-, same output...14:02
TJ-Dbugger: is the wifi currently connected ?14:02
Dbuggerno wait14:02
Dbuggernot same output14:02
Dbuggerthis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2DzZhMN8Ny/14:02
TJ-Dbugger: OK, very good signal quality, but the link speed might be the cause "Bit Rate=144 Mb/s"14:03
TJ-Dbugger: That is the raw radio rate; the actual usable rate will be quite a bit lower14:04
fantomasioria, BluesKaj - so I did it - cleared all nvidia stuff, restarted (several times) and finally got nouveau working. Then I installed nvidia drivers with `ubuntu-drivers autoinstall` and got my screwed up desktop back :(14:04
DbuggerTJ-, is low because it is configured to be low? or is it an external circumstance?14:04
fantomasSo I have only I display working (out of 3) and there is set res of 640x480 or simiar14:05
TJ-Dbugger: I'd suggest you start a speedtest to an Internet site, and then re-run the command several times as the test is underway, and see if that 'iwconfig' report varies in any significant way14:05
fantomasioria: and no I didn't have any xorg.conf14:05
TJ-Dbugger: for example, check for the error/rety counts increasing markedly, or the bitrate dropping.14:05
DbuggerTJ-, seems to be always 14414:07
TJ-Dbugger: Just to be sure I'd recommend checking from Windows what bit-rate it reports (you might have to dig a lot to find that info on Windows!) - if Windows reports the same then we know there is an issue in how efficient the driver is. If windows reports a higher bitrate then we can investigate why Linux driver isn't managing the same. Also - important - check that Windows is using the same 2.4GHz band. It14:10
TJ-could be using a 5.xGHz channel where higher bit rates are easier to achieve14:10
DbuggerTJ-, it should indeed be using the 5Ghz, with my router14:10
DbuggerTJ-, is there a way to find out if my card if using the 5Ghz frequency?14:11
TJ-Dbugger: So your Wifi AP is offering both 2.4 and 5.xGHz and Linux has chosen 2.4... right, that is useful info14:11
DbuggerTJ-, so then you think Ubuntu might not be using the 5GHz?14:12
BluesKajfantomas, I'm have no experience with multiple monitors :/14:12
TJ-Dbugger: do "pastebinit ( sudo iwlist scan; iwlist freq )"14:12
Dbuggeras root too?14:12
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TJ-Dbugger: I already put 'sudo' in there :)14:13
DbuggerI get a parse error with that command. Did you made a syntax error?14:13
TJ-hah I did14:13
TJ-Dbugger: do "pastebinit <( sudo iwlist scan; iwlist freq )"14:13
Dbugger:)14:13
* TJ- has cold fingers14:13
Dbuggerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TgFQMgzDc7/14:14
DbuggerMmm... last line says "current frequency: 2.4..."14:14
Dbuggercould that be it?14:14
TJ-Dbugger: You've got  FIVE APs all on channel 11!! Interference central14:15
DbuggerTJ-, not gonna lie... I have no idea what that means =P14:15
TJ-Dbugger: there are 5 different WiFi access points within range of your PC, all trying to operate on channel 11 (the same frequency as yours) ... that means they will interfere with each other causing lost packets and latency.14:16
coconutIs there any "nvidia prime" aka tool for amd cpu + amd gpu?14:17
DbuggerTJ-, but that problem should also happen with Windows, no?14:17
TJ-Dbugger: also, I only see 1 AP in the 5GHz band "o2-WLAN16" which I doubt is your FritzBox based on its SSID on 2.4GHz "FRITZ!Box 7362 SL"14:17
DbuggerTJ-, that is not me, you are right14:18
TJ-Dbugger: well only if Windows is also connecting on 2.4GHz. You said your believe your AP/router alo operates on 5GHz, so if Windows driver connects on that band there's unlikely to be much if any interference14:18
DbuggerTJ-, I KNOW my router operated on 5Ghz14:18
IarlaHas exFAT on linux improved much since 2012? Some comments I see online from that date caution against using it since it compared to other journalled filesystems.14:18
Iarlahttps://lifehacker.com/5927185/use-the-exfat-file-system-and-never-format-your-external-drive-again14:18
TJ-Dbugger: so I'd suggest first you confirm your AP/router *is* able to operate on 5GHz, and check that it *is* doing so14:18
DbuggerTJ-, i tried a lot. It is operating on 5Ghz, really14:19
Dbuggerwell, operating on both, I guess, since it is dual band =p14:19
Dbuggerups, I got disconnecting for 1 second, touching things... I am still here?14:20
TJ-Dbugger: Your PC isn't seeing it. That may be that the AP is operating on a channel (frequency) the PC is prevented from using (there are very stringent rules on what frequencies are allowed based on region code and active signal discovery)14:20
TJ-Dbugger: you are14:20
* BluesKaj wonders if the windows driver scans for open channels and selects the least crowded one14:20
DbuggerTJ-, I swear it is operating on 5Ghz. I logged in into my fritzbox control panel and clearly showed the graph with the 5Ghz data transmision14:20
TJ-Dbugger: in that last pastebin, at the end, you'll see a list of all the channels the PC can use. Compare the channel numbers above 14 (which are 5GHz) with the channel the AP is using according to its config14:21
Dbuggernot sure how to do that... :/14:21
TJ-Dbugger: you use the FritzBox control panel - you already said you could see it operating on 5GHz. It should also tell you which channel or frequency it is using14:22
Dbuggerok, that might take a moment... because I messed up the password of my fritzbox panel, and I seems like I have to do a factory reset to be able to get in14:23
Dbugger-_-14:23
HaMsTeRsHello everyone14:25
DbuggerIm going to do it, brb14:25
HaMsTeRsI have one quick question:  if I installed a self sign cert with mokutil, would the self sign cert store in my build-in firmware's certificate database?  or it's store in the the mok database which is a separate file store in local disk?14:26
TJ-HaMsTeRs: mokutil stores in the shim database14:32
HaMsTeRsHi TJ- :)  nice to see you here.14:36
HaMsTeRsSo shim database is store in hard disk right?  not in BIOS or machine firmware?14:36
TJ-HaMsTeRs: I'd hope it was in the PC's NVRAM EFI variable database!14:44
HaMsTeRshm.14:45
dbugger_TJ-, ok, im back14:48
TJ-HaMsTeRs: Looking at te shim code, it uses the variables MokList and MokListRT to store the enabled keys and hashes14:48
HaMsTeRsso the boot order is like: Firmware UEFI check if shim is signed->SHIM check the local mok db (which stored in local hard disk) if GRUB2,KERNEL is signed->GRUB2->KERNEL->OS14:48
dbugger_TJ-, What was it that you wanted me to look at?14:51
phunyguyI got a weird one... Ramnode VPS, 16.04 to 18.04 upgrade, boots to a blank screen immediately after grub.  Completely frozen.. any ideas?14:51
phunyguyI was able to get in with a sysrescuecd, mout everything, chroot, all seemed well, reinstalled grub, recreaeted initramfs, etc.14:52
phunyguyno go.14:52
TJ-dbugger_: On the Access Point? what channel/frequency it is operating on14:53
tomreynphunyguy: did you inspect the logs? was anything logged while it failed to boot?14:53
dbugger_TJ-, it is operatin on both 2.4 and 514:53
TJ-dbugger_: right, but what channel/frequency in the 5GHz band?14:54
TJ-HaMsTeRs: each layer checks the signature of the next executable it loads14:54
dbugger_TJ-, https://paste.pics/457AB14:55
dbugger_is that what you asked?14:55
TJ-HaMsTeRs: additionally, kernel will check it was loaded from a boot-loader that is honouring Secure Boot when that is enabled14:55
TJ-dbugger_: that seems to suggest it is operating on channel 52, using 80MHz bandwdith (covering 4 channels)14:56
HaMsTeRsI see, thanks TJ- :)14:56
dbugger_TJ-, is that good?14:57
TJ-dbugger_: it *seems* to include the 5GHx channels your earlier pastebin showed... however, I'm guessing you've rebooted the AP/router so it may be operating on a different channel now to what it was earlier. Show us "pastebinit <( sudo iwlist scan; iwlist freq )" again, lets see what it is doing now14:59
dbugger_TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yHPNcM3qHY/15:01
phunyguytomreyn: that was my next target, just didn't know if anyone had heard anythign similar15:03
TJ-dbugger_: I forgot to check which channel your PC is using! "pastebinit <( sudo iwconfig )"15:05
dbugger_http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ttFDHX6zpk/15:06
TJ-dbugger_: so, it's using channel 11 again, and no sign of the Fritz on channel 54. Either the Fritz is using channel widths wider than the PC wifi card can handle, or there's some driver issue. Let's find out what the device and driver are: "pastebinit <( lspci --nnk -d ::0280 )"15:08
dbugger_TJ-, I get an "invalid option -- '-'"15:09
adikwokhello seniors, i got many things to ask. since im newbie in ubuntu15:09
TJ-oh darn! lose the first hyphen ("-nnk")15:09
adikwokhow to read that words in flying boot? .. wanna see what failed at boot start15:10
TJ-adikwok: "journalctl -b"15:10
adikwokim using ubuntu 18.04.1 lts . lxde desktop15:10
dbugger_TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yGN3hSmyvr/15:11
adikwokTJ-: thx. i try it now15:11
phunyguywhere does Ubuntu stash dmesg logs these days?15:12
sobczyk_is there a way to mutistrap multiach ubuntu? I'm trying with amd64 & armhf, but mutistrap does not respect that archive.ubuntu does not contain armhf packages15:13
tomreynphunyguy: it's new to me, but i'm not into this host, nor do we know which virtualization they use15:13
phunyguyIt's kvm15:13
tomreynphunyguy: syslog is written to where it used to be15:13
phunyguynot syslog, that isn't showing anything15:13
phunyguyit's not making it that far15:13
adikwokTJ-: excuse me, now i can read with that words with journalctl -b . but i dont know how to fix the notifications.15:14
adikwokTJ-: things like this .. ata3.00: unexpected _GTF length (8)15:14
tomreynphunyguy: there is also /var/log/journal/ if you have journalctl15:14
phunyguynothing their either15:15
phunyguythere*15:15
phunyguylast thing was October 28th when this actually went down, just haven't had time to look at it15:15
tomreynphunyguy: any out of bound access options?15:15
phunyguyI am VNCd in now to the console15:15
tomreyn*band15:15
phunyguyI know ☺15:15
phunyguyIt's like it's hanging right after the kernel/initramfs are called15:16
adikwokTJ-: and many more down below that journalctl -b15:16
TJ-dbugger_: I thought I had the correct broadcom source here but it doesn't want to build against the 4.15 kernel. Let's find out which you've got. "pastebinit <( ls -l /etc/src/ )"15:16
phunyguyeverything in /var/log has a timestamp of Oct 28th or older15:16
adikwoktomreyn: hello tom .. have a nice weekend15:17
tomreynadikwok: thanks, you too!15:17
dbugger_TJ-, such forlder does not exist15:17
TJ-adikwok: is the PC a MacBook ?15:17
adikwoktomreyn: definitely15:17
tomreynphunyguy: then either kernel image or initrd is broken or (unlikely, since it worked on 16.04) the virtual hardware is incompatile.15:18
phunyguytime for a new host it seems.15:18
TJ-dbugger_: really? Oh, so it isn't using the DKMS package then. How did you install the WiFi driver?15:18
dbugger_TJ-, i went to "software & updates" and installed the ones under "Additional drivers"15:18
phunyguyI was able to apt the latest kernel, which created a new init, and it was still broken15:18
phunyguyinitramfs*15:19
tomreynphunyguy: there are more options, including contacting their support, i guess. but also some you could try on your own.15:19
TJ-dbugger_: hmmm, let me figure out what that may have installed!15:19
adikwokTJ-: no, its acer 4315, intel celeron 1,73ghz, 80gb hdd. intel graphics integrated15:19
phunyguytomreyn: I am up for anything.. chrooted to it now15:19
tomreynphunyguy: it *could* also be that the grub installation didnt get upgraded during the ubuntu upgrade for some reason15:19
dbugger_TJ-, there it says "Using broadcom 802.11 Linux TSA wireless driver from bcmwl-kernel-source"15:19
phunyguyI did that too 😞15:20
phunyguyI'm just gonna go with a different provider I think and pull this install over rsync15:21
tomreynphunyguy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingKernelBoot15:21
phunyguyregardless if I fix this one or not15:21
TJ-dbugger_: aha, right. Let me check that here. Not having a BRCM device makes it somewhat hard to track down15:21
phunyguyactually you may be on to something with grub15:22
phunyguyIt's supposed to have a timeout where you see the menu, I never see it15:22
phunyguyincreasing it to 10 to see.15:22
TJ-dbugger_: hmmm, weird. That package installs under /usr/src/ so my earlier command should have worked. Maybe I typoed? Oh, I did! I must be sleep-walking!15:22
dbugger_:D15:22
dbugger_so I change "etc" with "usr"?15:23
TJ-dbugger_: You don't need to now, I know where it is and I do have that code here15:23
phunyguyoh, nevermind, it's set to hidden15:23
phunyguylet me set to menu and try15:23
TJ-dbugger_: which kernel version are you using "uname -r" ?15:24
TJ-dbugger_: show us "pastebinit <( modinfo wl )"15:24
ericrajuinhow do i paste screenshots?15:24
dbugger_TJ-, 4.15.0-3915:24
dbugger_TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9dgtj5py5Z/15:25
TJ-dbugger_: strange; trying to build that module here for 4.15.0-38 fails miserably15:25
phunyguytomreyn: that got it to show something though.  https://i.imgur.com/ewKisJi.png15:25
phunyguythis is where it is hanging15:25
TJ-dbugger_: I was hoping that 'wl' module had parameters ("parm") that would influence the choice of channels but I don't see anything there15:26
tomreynphunyguy: right, i expected as much. see what the default kernel / boot parameters are15:26
phunyguyjust lists the root fs, and "ro"15:26
SimonNLericrajuin: you could use imgur.com for that.15:27
dbugger_TJ-, :(15:27
tomreynphunyguy: can you take another screenie?15:27
RazorSharpFangIs there a good list I can run through for troubleshooting NAT on Ubuntu with IP-forwarding?15:27
TJ-dbugger_: so in summary, I'm not sure why the broadcom driver is not seing the AP is operating on a 5GHz channel, and I'd suspect that is the best way of avoiding the congestion and interference you've got on the 2.4GHz band, which is likely why the throughput seems to be lower. I'd recommend you reboot to Windows and discover which frequency/channel/bitrate it is using if Windows seems to do better15:28
tomreynphunyguy: i'm wondering about the options passed on the 'linux' line15:28
phunyguytomreyn: https://i.imgur.com/kC3uQ5P.png15:28
TJ-dbugger_: if Windows is operating on 5GHz that'd explain why it can do better15:28
adikwokTJ-: its an acer laptop 4315, intel celeron, 1,73 ghz, 80 gb hdd, intel graphics integrated.15:28
dbugger_TJ-, im not unhappy with the traffic coming from 2.4. It is actually quite good15:29
dbugger_but Id like to get to my 90s mbps :(15:29
TJ-adikwok: the error you showed seems to be related to a bug in the SATA disk controller. I see that in particular controller made by Marvel can exhibit this problem15:29
adikwokdbugger_: im using 5ghz15:30
dbugger_adikwok, probably other driver15:30
tomreynphunyguy: okay so you have an lvm id, a file system uuid, and a file system path (/dev/mapper/system-root), all of which you can verify from a recovery system15:31
tomreynphunyguy: i assume you already tried to boot into ubuntu's recovery and this failed? and you tried booting older kernel images, too?15:31
phunyguyI've had issues like that before, but it always shows an error if the IDs are night correct15:31
adikwokTJ-: how to get that Marvel driver?15:31
ericrajuinHi, for some reason emojicons appear gigantic everywhere, the font is dejavu sans mono and the app is hexchat, but it's same in terminal and other places as well. How do i fix it? https://imgur.com/a/Qxkatrc15:32
phunyguythis started when I upgraded to 18.04 which at the time was 4.15.0.3015:32
phunyguyIDs are not correct**15:32
tomreynphunyguy: not correct? which ones aren't?15:32
phunyguyI was correcting my previous line:15:32
phunyguyI've had issues like that before, but it always shows an error if the IDs are not correct15:32
BluesKajdbugger_, try changing channels on 2.4 ghz , try 1or 9 or some other unpopular chan , by no means use ch 6 , it's default on a lot of routers15:33
phunyguyI can humor you though15:33
phunyguygimme a sec15:33
dbugger_BluesKaj, my AP is selecting automatically the channels for me15:33
tomreynphunyguy: oh ok. well i suggest to verify these ids. a possible bug which comes to mind is one where older 4.15 kernels would get stuck at this point if there was an issue with the entropy pool15:33
BluesKajdbugger_, doesn't hurt to experiment , my router scans as well , but i prefer to choose one that nobody else uses in the area15:34
tomreynphunyguy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/177982715:35
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1779827 in Ubuntu Bionic "failure to boot with linux-image-4.15.0-24-generic" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:35
tomreynbut this is old, should be fixed by now15:35
phunyguytomreyn: reading through it, it looks like the system at least gets a system there15:36
tomreynphunyguy: did you say your current / latest installed kernel is 4.15.0.30? didn't you also say you chrooted into the system and installed the latest kernel?15:36
phunyguyerr at least boots to a console15:37
phunyguytomreyn: I upgraded on the 28th which had .30, chrooted in and apt full-upgrade, which brought in .3915:37
phunyguyboth same issue15:37
TJ-adikwok: it isn't a case of getting a driver; that's not the point. Apparently there is a bug in the PC's firmware ACPI that is mis-reporting the _GTF value15:37
phunyguyalso IDs are fine15:37
phunyguyjust verified15:37
tomreynphunyguy: hmm okay then it wont be this issue (based on the kernel version)15:38
phunyguyI'm gonna give this about 15 more minutes, and then I am giving up15:38
tomreynok, good luck15:39
phunyguythanks for trying ☺15:39
phunyguyI really appreciate you all.15:39
tomreynyw15:39
adikwokTJ-: oo .. ok, so i disable acpi-support or what?15:39
TJ-phunyguy: is your VPS OpenVZ or KVM?15:40
phunyguyTJ-: kvm15:40
TJ-phunyguy: and the VPS is configured to use the kernel you provide, not one provided outside the guest ?15:40
phunyguyand this was a fresh install of 16.04 at the time, not their image15:40
phunyguycorrect15:40
phunyguyfull virtualization15:40
TJ-phunyguy: right. And do you have network-KVM console (Keyboard/Video/Mouse not Kernel Virtual Machine!) so you can control GRUB ?15:41
ioriaphunyguy, if you're sure that the upgrade to 18.04 it's not the issue, might be a kernel bug (like this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1792100   ) in this case, can you install another kernel from mainline  ?15:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1792100 in linux (Ubuntu Bionic) "Boot hangs at "loading initial ramdisk..."" [High,In progress]15:41
phunyguyTJ-: yes15:41
phunyguyioria: good find. let me try15:42
TJ-phunyguy: Have you tried disabling (via kernel command line) some of the recent speculative execution CVE workarounds? To have the kernel fail before it writes to console means the very early unpack/init code is failing. You could also try booting with "debug early_printk" (remove "quiet splash")  in case the kernel can get to a point of writing to console and give a clue15:46
phunyguy;/15:46
phunyguyall valid things15:46
RazorSharpFangI'm running 16.04.4 LTS. Ought I to upgrade?15:47
phunyguyup t you RazorSharpFang15:47
phunyguyTJ-: nada on the debug early_printk15:48
phunyguyand there is no quiet splash15:48
tomreynRazorSharpFang: first dist-upgrade within 16.04, and ppa-purge15:49
TJ-phunyguy: right, so GRUB may not be handing over correctly, or the kernel image is bad. Can you boot older kernels with the same GRUB ?15:49
__0xbad_hey15:49
__0xbad_sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration15:49
phunyguyI only have .30 and .3915:49
__0xbad_doesnt stick after reboot15:49
__0xbad_help?15:49
TJ-phunyguy: via a chroot can you install an older kernel package?15:50
__0xbad_lo?15:51
phunyguyyeah, how far back?15:51
RazorSharpFangWould a 12.04 networking tutorial for nat via IPTables hold in 16.04.4 ?15:52
tomreynRazorSharpFang: i think so.15:53
TJ-phunyguy: is it using a 64-bit kernel? I was checking the archive for the oldest 4.15.0-* image, and it only has i386 images for that series!!15:53
RazorSharpFang`/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0` doesn't exist, what's the modern(er?) equivalent?15:54
TJ-phunyguy: oh! the naming has changed for 64-bit, it's now "linux-image-unsigned-*"15:54
phunyguyyeah 64bit15:55
TJ-phunyguy: you could "wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-unsigned-4.15.0-20-generic_4.15.0-20.21_amd64.deb" and install that to test, which is the oldest 4.15 I can find15:56
phunyguyok15:56
TJ-phunyguy: also you'll need "wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-modules-4.15.0-20-generic_4.15.0-20.21_amd64.deb"15:58
phunyguyThe requested URL /ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-modules-4.15.0-20-generic_4.15.0-20.21_amd64.deb" was not found on this server.15:59
TJ-phunyguy: weird; I copy/pasted that15:59
phunyguywget also can't get it, but different error.  I can ping google, etc16:00
phunyguysays network unreachable/connection refused16:00
TJ-phunyguy: I can get it here; must be something to do with the environment you're operating in16:00
phunyguyo.O I have two IPs16:01
phunyguylet me remove one.  Silly systemrescuecd16:01
TJ-phunyguy: hehehe16:01
RazorSharpFangQuick q: Will commands to iptables persist through restarts?16:01
TJ-RazorSharpFang: no16:01
phunyguyoh n/m, that's not it16:01
TJ-RazorSharpFang: you'll need something additional, like the iptables-persistent package, to do that16:02
RazorSharpFangThat explains why everything broke during that power outage.16:02
phunyguyTJ-: https://i.imgur.com/bvU9LwS.png16:03
phunyguyiptables is empty, etc16:03
TJ-phunyguy: that is very weird16:04
phunyguy*nod*16:04
tomreyntry http nstead of https?16:04
phunyguysame thing16:05
phunyguyerr16:05
phunyguywait, it didn't remove the s.16:05
phunyguyfail.16:05
phunyguy404 that time, let me check for typos16:05
phunyguyyup, got some _ instead of .16:05
phunyguygot it16:07
TJ-phunyguy: try pulling it from my server: "wget http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/kernel/linux-modules-4.15.0-20-generic_4.15.0-20.21_amd64.deb"16:07
phunyguyI got it ☺16:07
TJ-phunyguy: yay!16:07
phunyguyI need the modules package too 😞16:07
TJ-phunyguy: so you have both packages now? so "dpkg -I ."16:07
phunyguyOh I missed that line16:08
tomreynTJ-: there is also -40 in proposed, might be worth another try.16:08
TJ-bah, phunyguy , that should be "dpkg -iR ."16:08
TJ-tomreyn: right; I thought we'd work backwards first since if it is an unfixed regression the later kernel won't help16:09
phunyguyok it's installing16:09
TJ-tomreyn: I'm not seeing anything in the changelogs to indicate a fix of such a bug16:09
tomreynTJ-: right, i guess i'd just install both at the same time, less chroot rebooting that way.16:09
coconutWould i be able to get TFT's with 32 inch+ HDPI wide screens working on ubuntu?16:10
TJ-tomreyn: good point :)16:10
phunyguyyup, that's booting!16:10
phunyguyyay kernel bugs16:10
TJ-coconut: that depends on the GPU rather than the OS itself16:10
TJ-phunyguy: I think you probably need to *me too* that bug ioria found for you, and report what has just happened16:10
phunyguyok16:11
TJ-phunyguy: ensure Joeseph know you're using a KVM host16:11
phunyguybefore I do anything, let me stop unnatended-upgrades16:11
coconutTJ-: you mean that i would need a bigger GPU?16:11
phunyguyI need this box to be up right now.16:11
TJ-coconut: The GPU is what drives the monitor, so if you want to drive it at maximum HiDPI resolutions, the GPU needs to support those modes16:11
coconutTJ-: ok :) Do you know whether an nvidia GTX 1080Ti would do this?16:13
jpleauis there an option in 18.04 (gnome) to disable windows getting focus when they have notifications? This mostly applies to Wine applications, getting a message in-game switches the focus to the game window16:13
coconutOr so i need such nvidia card in SLI then?16:15
coconut*do16:15
TJ-coconut: I would assume so but you've not told us what the resolution of the monitor actually is. You really need to check Nvidia's specifications for the GPU16:15
phunyguyTJ-: tomreyn: ioria: TY!  I have something to work with now.16:16
phunyguydon't like using older kernels on public facing machines, but I think I can handle it for a little while.16:16
tomreynwelcome, but it was really tj who helped you fix it, i had given up hope to see you succeed in 15min16:16
coconut:) thank you TJ-. Sometimes i really cannot live without you...16:17
phunyguytomreyn: ☺16:17
phunyguythe weird part is, I am on 16.04 on it's identical twin, with 4.15.0-39 kernel16:19
TJ-phunyguy: but not in a KVM guest?16:19
phunyguysame thing16:19
phunyguyKVM16:19
TJ-phunyguy: really? can you check if they're both using the same cpu/chipset selection?16:20
phunyguyjust different datacenter (redundancy)16:20
TJ-phunyguy: that would be a VERY useful datapoint for the bug report16:20
phunyguyusing QEMU vCPU16:20
TJ-phunyguy: how about the chipset they're emulating?16:20
phunyguyOH wait16:20
TJ-phunyguy: often it is i440FX16:20
phunyguyIntel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E3-1240 V2 @ 3.40GHz16:21
phunyguythat's the broken one16:21
phunyguyI should upgrade to 18.04 on the working one, and I bet it still works.16:21
TJ-phunyguy: it may be what I originally said; the speculative execution patches + microcode versions - attaching the dmesg from the now-working system to the bug would help there16:22
phunyguyyeah will do16:22
phunyguyare these ubuntu-specific patches?16:22
phunyguybugs: cpu_meltdown spectre_v1 spectre_v216:22
phunyguythat's in /proc/cpuinfo16:23
tomreyni think most if not all major distro ś have taken te same aproach to contain those cpu bugs.16:23
TJ-phunyguy: no, they're mainline workarounds16:23
tomreynmicrocodes will be the same whereever they're used16:23
phunyguyahh16:24
TJ-tomreyn: only if they're applied on the hosts16:24
TJ-tomreyn: there have been some regression in that area when using KVM16:25
tomreyngooooog point16:25
tomreyngooD16:25
phunyguyadded my junk to the bug16:30
phunyguythanks folks16:30
phunyguyTJ-: the twin is now broken after upgrading.17:05
phunyguysame issue.17:05
phunyguymust be specific to 18.04 and that kernel17:05
phunyguywhat would be different in that regard with the kernel/initramfs builds?17:05
tomreynphunyguy: i'm not sure you ever confirmed this, so maybe it makes sense to ask again: did you ensure that the updated grub boot code was actually installed to the disk?17:24
tomreyni'm not certain as to how or whether they differ between 16.04 and 18.04 but it's well possible that they do.17:25
TJ-phunyguy: I wonder if it is SMT related; I'd be tempted to test with "nosmt=force"17:43
spl33nhello all i want to use javafx in ubuntu 18.10 but if i try to compile javafx program i have this issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QYv5QTQvxM/ someone can help to fix this ?17:58
brendelhi, I can't find the kernel symbols package on the last 18.0418:00
brendelshoudln't it be linux-image-4.15.0-39-generic-dbgsym ?18:01
ioriabrendel, have you seen this ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debug%20Symbol%20Packages18:09
TJ-brendel: is it for the amd64 kernel?18:09
ioriaspl33n, and openjfx is installed ?18:10
BarnabasDKspl33n, answer on stackoverflow18:10
TJ-brendel: in which case they're now named linux-image-unsigned (due to EFI) and you'd want linux-image-unsigned-4.15.0-39-generic-dbgsym18:10
BarnabasDKreally has nothing to do with ubuntu18:10
BarnabasDKbut yes a cp issue18:11
spl33nioria: yes http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/r3Fw7Wx6Tr/18:11
ioriaspl33n, default-jre  is also installed right ?18:12
BarnabasDKdepends on the version18:13
BarnabasDKioria, depends on the version I think18:13
spl33nioria: yes18:13
brendelah yeah didn't see there was other repo for dbgsym package thx ioria TJ-18:13
ioriabrendel, you're welcm18:13
spl33nioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vnVbts8fBh/18:14
ioriaspl33n, are you using and ide (eg, IntelliJ) or the command line ?18:22
spl33nioria: i use the command line18:23
sonOfRaspl33n: you still have to put javafx on your classpath. Also mind this bug in 18.10: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjfx/+bug/179994618:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1799946 in openjfx (Ubuntu) "OpenJFX-11 does not work with OpenJDK-8" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:25
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sonOfRaspl33n: also, starting with java 11, javafx is modularized, and you can just depend on it in maven/gradle/ivy: https://mvnrepository.com/artifact/org.openjfx18:29
spl33nsonOfRa: okay thank you for your answer18:31
IarlaDoes gparted find fragmented parts and move them when I'm decreasin a partition size? I'd imagine the data could be anywhere physically.18:31
bonhoefferhey -- i'm trying to connect ubuntu to my mac -- i can ping and disabled journaling, installed hfsplus but what is my /dev/sd?? and /mnt18:32
bonhoefferi'll take a good link -- poking around there are lots of questions about this, but nothing showing how to find the mount point18:33
vltbonhoeffer: df could tell you18:34
bonhoefferfrom a windows machine, i can connect to the drive -- so security/connectivity/etc works well18:34
bonhoefferthinking smb applies here and not hfsprogs18:35
bonhoeffervlt: df?18:36
bonhoefferdo i have to create an empty folder at /mnt/myFile18:41
tgm4883bonhoeffer: you want smb (cifs) not hfsprogs if you're connecting to the share over the network18:43
bonhoeffertgm4883: thanks -- that helps18:44
tgm4883bonhoeffer: I don't have any Mac's to test with, but you might try this https://askubuntu.com/a/92545418:44
bonhoeffertrying mount .cifs and i get "No such device"18:44
bonhoefferoh i'm connecting to //192.168.0.101/ not //192.168.0.101/ShareName -- i need to find what the sharename is on the mac18:45
ioriaspl33n, have you tried to add  it manually  ? --add-modules=javafx.controls,javafx.fxml   (or similar)18:54
DJonesi18:54
spl33nioria: in the command line ?18:54
spl33nioria: no18:55
ioriaspl33n, i think you need to place the JavaFX libraries on the classpath19:02
spl33nioria: you how can i do this ? where i found javafx jar that i put in classpath ?19:03
ioriaspl33n, try locate jfxrt19:07
BarnabasDKif you use it, add to your build tool as a compile dependency / gradle / maven19:08
spl33nioria: locate jfxrt return nothing19:10
ioriaspl33n, sudo updatedb and try again19:11
TJ-spl33n: have you installed javafx?19:11
TJ-spl33n: if so, for your build environment, have you set JAVAFX_HOME= correctly?19:12
coconutIs there any app which advise when to charge a laptop's battery?19:13
ioriaspl33n, that ^ probably,or something like this : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/djYZmFQZgp/19:14
OerHekscoconut, never heard of one, not even on windows/mac19:15
coconutOerHeks: there is https://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/   but for mac.19:16
OerHeksyou charge it when you want to, advisable is not to charge it all the time, that makes the battery lame19:16
coconutOerHeks: yes my lap sometimes halt at once at 40% at the moment. :(19:17
OerHeksthere is a standard battery status, https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/power-status.html.en19:17
OerHeksbut not an app that tells you when to charge19:17
coconutok, thank you OerHeks :)19:18
RandomNoobHello guys I have laptop Hp probook 455 g1 with amd a4-4300m processor. It works perfectly without any issues on Ubuntu but when I am trying to install Windows it reboots randomly while using it. What might be the problem?19:20
compdocRandomNoob, you should check the drives SMART, to see if its failing19:22
OerHeksRandomNoob, ask in ##windows?19:22
OerHeksloz noob19:22
coconutOerHeks: another quesiton. Does it configurably prompt one?19:22
OerHekscompdoc, i would do a memtest86 run, but he is using windows..19:23
spl33nioria: now i can compile but i try to launch i have this issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MrMx34cxJ8/19:23
compdocOerHeks, thats good to do too19:24
OerHekscoconut, "Does it configurably prompt one?"  what does that mean?19:24
RandomNoobmemtest passed without any error19:24
OerHeksbattery status is just an information page, iirc19:24
compdocyou can boot memtest86 or memtest86+ directly, or run the one in the ubuntu install19:24
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coconutOerHeks: means that i would like to be messaged before the battery gets to empty and shut down on itself.19:25
coconut*too19:25
PsyRabbitSomeone know why iscsitarget (ietd) is not in 18.04 LTS? The LIO performance is not enough, ietd has better tuning options. Where can I find information why it's no longer in the official repo's? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/iscsitarget19:26
coconutat let say 5%, so i can get it charging again.19:26
OerHeksmy laptop gives a red battery on the panel ( gnome) when time comes below 10 minutes or so19:26
coconutok... :)19:26
OerHeksbut i like to drain my battery from time to time, to keep it healthy19:26
coconutAnd such indication is without any sound or screen massage?19:27
ioriaspl33n,  at this point maybe you need #java channel19:29
coconutwith screen message i mean a popup slide19:29
spl33nioria: yes, sorry thant you for your help19:29
ioriaspl33n,  no proble,gl19:31
OerHekscoconut, i don't know that feature, just checked laptopmodetools, there is a MINIMUM_BATTERY_CHARGE_PERCENT but that does not popup a window19:35
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coconutok, thnx OerHeks ;)19:36
OerHekshttps://github.com/rickysarraf/laptop-mode-tools/wiki/FAQ19:36
RickRNFHow does 18.04 handle Nvidia mobile GPUs? do you need to reboot to swap between Nvidia and Intel graphics?19:37
coconut:)19:37
texlaHow to list directories in sda119:47
phunyguytomreyn: On the first broken on, I reinstalled grub to the disk.. is that what you are asking?19:53
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t0mm4i'm trying to access localhost after enabling a vpn, does anyone have experience doing this?20:05
vltt0mm4: Maybe.20:07
TJ-t0mm4: in what way are you trying to 'access' it? What service?20:07
t0mm4browser20:07
t0mm4i'm trying to access an http server via localhost20:08
TJ-t0mm4: is the http server actually listening on localhost (which I assume you mean 127.0.0.1) ?20:09
t0mm4yes, it's working without the vpn enabled20:09
t0mm4i'm using nordvpn if it makes a difference20:10
TJ-t0mm4: are you sure the 'VPN' isn't also setting up some kind of HTTP proxy?20:10
t0mm4do some vpns do that by default?20:11
TJ-t0mm4: it isn't a VPN function, but these "VPN services" sometimes include other functionality which is why I ask. Can you connect to the HTTP server from the command-line?20:12
t0mm4it is!20:12
t0mm4i thought it wasn't, because it's a paid service20:13
t0mm4but it's included with the trial20:13
TJ-t0mm4: test it from the CLI with telnet; as in "telnet localhost <port>" then type "GET / HTTP/1.0" press Enter twice see if you get the expected response20:16
t0mm4it's saying couldn't resolve20:21
t0mm4(without the vpn connected)20:21
TJ-t0mm4: have you changed the /etc/hosts so that "localhost" is set to something else?20:22
TJ-t0mm4: it should have "127.0.0.1 localhost"20:23
t0mm4no20:23
t0mm4i've changed it, if it requires a reboot20:24
t0mm4changed it then changed it back*20:24
tomreynphunyguy: yes thats what i meant20:25
TJ-t0mm4: localhost should never be changed; that is asking for trouble20:26
iceiceicehi, I recently upgraded from 16.04 to 18.04, I've had a lot of problems where the gnome panel in the upper right is broken and I can't see battery life or use wifi properly anymore20:28
iceiceicei've been like googling and stuff, a lot of things say to do `sudo nm-applet` in command line20:29
iceiceicebut that doesn't even really fix it, it struggles to connect to things20:29
iceiceiceis there any other recommendable way to adjust wifi network in ubuntu than using the gnome nm manager?20:30
ioriaiceiceice, how can you use nm-applet on bionic while it does not exist anymore ?20:31
TJ-iceiceice: firstly, you shouldn't need 'sudo' to re-run nmapplet; that runs as your user account20:31
TJ-ioria: it does exist!20:32
TJ-!info network-manager-gnome bionic20:33
ubottunetwork-manager-gnome (source: network-manager-applet): network management framework (GNOME frontend). In component main, is optional. Version 1.8.10-2ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 334 kB, installed size 2164 kB (Only available for linux-any)20:33
ioriaTJ-, really ?20:33
iceiceiceTJ-: I agree20:35
iceiceiceI've read a lot of posts like this:20:35
iceiceicehttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1031950/can-t-get-network-applet-back-in-ubuntu-mate-18-0420:35
iceiceicenone of these "tweaks" seem to work for me20:35
TJ-iceiceice: when it happens have you tried restarting the network-manager service itself?20:37
iceiceicehow do i do that?20:37
TJ-iceiceice: "sudo systemctl reload-or-restart network-manager"20:37
iceiceiceTJ- fwiw I found some advice here that got my wifi working again: https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/18-04-has-no-network-icon/16203/720:38
iceiceicethe " I solved this in 18.04 final by adding to Panel ‘Indicator Applet Complete’ — it has Bluetooth, Network, Battery, Volume and Session. The old ‘Notification Area’ is still there, and it has Skype showing. At first everything else was missing, but now Volume has showed up again. I have 2 Volume controls, which I can ignore."20:38
iceiceiceit's a bit wierd because now all the power and network stuff is on the left instead of the upper right20:38
iceiceiceso whatever gnome applet is supposed to work in the upper right is still broken20:38
iceiceicei will try restarting network-manager like you say, i might lose connection then :)20:39
TJ-iceiceice: no, that shouldn't break existing connections20:39
iceiceiceok thx20:39
OerHekssudo snap install windows1020:52
ubobtuIs there a linux certification program that employers want to see?20:59
ikoniaubobtu: not for this channel please21:00
ikoniathis is a support channel for ubuntu21:01
ubobtuok sorry21:01
ikonianot a problem21:01
WoC-ubobtu, you may want to try ##linux if you have not already21:13
drecondiusI'm having an issue with an iMac, the installer has hung multiple times at roughly 80%. same with the mac restore, am I missing something or are there some parameters I need to use to install it?21:26
drecondiuserr, install ubuntu mate. I can't get into the live environment without adding nomodeset21:27
coconutdrecondius: for mac issues got to #macosx21:32
OerHeks#macos is not helpfull with linux21:32
OerHeksdrecondius, what imac model? what duide do you follow? i believe nomodeset is needed21:33
coconutoh, then i dit not read well. Sorry.21:33
coconut*did21:34
drecondius@OerHeks it's a 2010 i believe. I can't boot the os because it's hung on what i can only guess is an install, but Ubuntu keeps haning at about the same percentage as well. I know, the one time I booted it up it's one with an i3 at 3.2 and an amd hd something video, 4 gb ram21:35
drecondiuscan I get the model from the macOS Utilities loader?21:38
l14d35hello21:49
OerHeksdrecondius, besides nomodeset, i wonder if that 'hang' is just a download of updates, of configuring grub21:50
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drecondiuswell, when i go to add nomodeset i have to wait and move characters indivdually instead of holding  and it zooming to the end like it does on my alienware21:56
drecondiuslemme see if i can find an efi memtest to run22:01
SleePyDid a apt upgrade.  Have a single package that is not downloading from a repo.  Any thoughts on how I can tell it to just skip this package without aborting the "apt upgrade" command?22:46
OerHeksSleePy, not. what package from what repo exactly? i asume a ppa22:48
SleePyzabbix22:49
SleePy97% [86 zabbix-server-mysql 1,244 kB/1,901 kB 65%]                                                                                                                             2,726 B/s 18min 9s22:49
OerHeksmaybe the mirror is updating, try again updating in a minute?22:49
SleePyIts been running about 5 minutes to try and get that package22:50
SleePyWas hoping I could issue a key command and have it just skip that package for now..22:50
SleePyBut guess I will wait it out.  Could abort the command, but may make apt mad..  Don't feel up to fixing that right now if it does22:51
OerHekssudo apt install -f / or run updates again should fix broken updates22:52
hggdhSleePy: the package is downloading at about 2kbytes/sec. It will take some time at that speed22:53
SleePyIts at 92%.. But yea22:53
SleePyFinally got it.22:56
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OerHeks!googl .23:13
bipulI just wants to confirm that is it correct setting for preseed file https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization23:24
bipulI'm this configuration for /isolinux/isolinux.cfg is working for Ubuntu server 18.04 ?23:25
bipulI mean to say this configuration for /isolinux/isolinux.cfg is working for Ubuntu server 18.04 ?23:25
bipulThe configuration written for /isolinux/isolinux.cfg  at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization is tested and working for Ubuntu  server 18.04 ?23:27
OerHeksyou might want to reask in #ubuntu-server, but i see no 18.04 on that page, and comments about 16.04 ...23:29
bipulOerHeks, Ubuntu-server is silent at this moment. Yes even i feel Documentations are not updated.23:30
OerHekscubic can customize the server iso https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-iso-with-cubic/23:32
OerHekshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/177559023:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1775590 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "don't create custum distribution with Ubuntu 18.04" [Undecided,New]23:33
bipulkernel is at /casper/vmlinuz as per 18.04 .iso image23:35
bipulI'm afraid this settings are very old23:35
OerHekstry it out in kvm/virtualbox??23:36
bipulMany things are setup on Virtualbox i can't move on kvm23:37
bipulI believe that's not a genuine bug 1775590 that person who ever tested lack the settings23:39
ubottubug 1775590 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "don't create custum distribution with Ubuntu 18.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177559023:39
OerHeksso, try cubic?23:41

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