[00:02] <Unit193> ochosi: For reference, sn-plugin is in Debian, but not under the pkg-xfce umbrella.
[00:02] <ochosi> oh, interesting
[00:02] <Unit193> That's maintained by me and Sean.
[00:03] <ochosi> ah, i see
[10:28] <bluesabre> could probably get that pulled into pkg-xfce if we make it part of the core defaults
[11:31] <flocculant> bluesabre: was only a little bug - but thanks :)
[11:32] <bluesabre> :)
[11:33] <flocculant> seems I've a bigger issue with since getting extra stuff from xscreensaver-data - it doesn't work :p
[11:33] <bluesabre> That doesn't sound good
[11:34] <flocculant> just having a bit more of a look
[11:34] <bluesabre> I found something fun... xscreensaver disables the X11 screensaver when you exit it
[11:34] <flocculant> mmm
[11:34] <bluesabre> Wondered why it wasn't working in Fedora, screensaver got disabled D:
[11:35] <bluesabre> Good thing to check, output of `xdg-screensaver status`
[11:37] <flocculant> bluesabre: so adding xscreensaver-data - gives a bigger (and better for some) list of things - but then nothing is working 
[11:37] <flocculant> that says 'enabled'
[11:37] <bluesabre> flocculant: do the previews work in the Screensaver prefs dialog?
[11:37] <flocculant> nope
[11:37] <bluesabre> oh wow
[11:38] <flocculant> click on anything - even original ones and you just see a blank screen
[11:38] <bluesabre> I'm at a loss then :D
[11:38] <flocculant> I'll check in live session before I do any reporting 
[11:38] <flocculant> ha ha ha 
[11:40] <flocculant> bluesabre: can you add things from pad to agenda :)
[11:40] <bluesabre> Yes, need to do that... will go ahead with that in a sec.
[11:41] <flocculant> cheers
[11:41] <flocculant> ochosi and Unit193 have said they'll be missing if you didn't see that
[11:45] <bluesabre> Yeah, saw that as well
[11:45] <flocculant> bluesabre: I lied - the original stuff does work - just none of the ones that -data package adds
[11:45] <bluesabre> interesting
[11:45] <bluesabre> name one of them?
[11:46] <flocculant> only actually grabbed that one cos Unit193 said so :p 
[11:46] <flocculant> Fuzzy Flakes 
[11:47] <bluesabre> https://i.imgur.com/QUrrWMI.png
[11:48] <flocculant> https://i.imgur.com/tVmvOuh.png
[11:48] <flocculant> bluesabre: is that in something not 19.04 ?
[11:48] <bluesabre> 18.10, will check out 19.04 this weekend
[11:49] <bluesabre> I wonder if it's a GL screensaver and GL is funny in qemu?
[11:49] <flocculant> ok - well I will report it to bugzilla now I've looked on the live session
[11:49] <bluesabre> thx
[11:49] <flocculant> well it might be - but it doesn't work on my physical machine 
[11:49] <flocculant> which is why I checked the live as well
[11:50] <flocculant> anyway - be about a bit off and on today - but off now :p
[11:55] <flocculant> found a thing in .xsession-errors - might help - put it in the bug report which is xfce 14883
[11:55] <ubottu> bugzilla.xfce.org bug 14883 in General "Extra screensavers fail to work" [Normal,New] https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14883
[12:01] <knome> Unit193, ack, i have the documentation on that svaed
[12:10] <bluesabre> flocculant: added the items to the agenda
[19:42] <Unit193> ochosi: xfpm is only suggests as it's only really useful on laptops
[19:44] <ochosi> Unit193: not sure, some people also hibernate/suspend their pcs
[19:44] <Unit193> (That's the reasoning, though.)
[19:44] <ochosi> also, it has DPMS settings that are relevant for pcs
[19:44] <ochosi> sure, just telling you why i would beg to differ :)
[19:44] <Unit193> Also stated that one should look at what tasksel would install, as that's what ends up on 'xfce' installs.
[19:45] <ochosi> not sure what tasksel would install
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