 @docEbrown [<docEbrown> morning all], Morning!
 How are you?
[00:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL169423db92ef: Add how to change menu opening shortcut] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL169423db92ef
 @wxl In one physical machine I'm testing Meta+E doesn't work, however, Fn+Super_L = Super_R. Apparently Meta != Super https://askubuntu.com/questions/19558/what-are-the-meta-super-and-hyper-keys
[00:11] <wxl> yeah i know. things get weirder still..
[00:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALbc63fc2c0281: Add customizing taskbar] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALbc63fc2c0281
[00:22] <lynorian> for my machines that have the menu key I actually don't use that for much of anything and set that for lxqt-runner if I can
[00:23] <lynorian> but that is not on everything
[00:23] <wxl> i usually use Alt_R for AltGr. just makes sense. :)
 One thing I miss from Kubuntu. Click on a unused space on the desktop, start typing and krunner opens. No keyboard shortcuts needed.
[00:26] <wxl> doesn't work in trusty so *shrug*
 I can adapt.
[00:27] <wxl> i'm on kubuntu trusty right now
 bionic does.
[00:28] <wxl> it's probably an issue with the layout. i use the folder layout by default
[00:28] <wxl> works on the default one
[00:28] <wxl> neat. didn't even know about that
 Could be. I usually disable that.
 It is pretty cool.
[00:28] <wxl> so that's a plasma integration apparently
 Yeah.
[00:29] <wxl> i'm not sure if pcmanfm-qt would take a request like that, but you could always try
[00:30] <wxl> maybe suggest it could be configurable, i.e. could start a search in pcmanfm or go to somewhere else.... ?
[00:30] <wxl> web search?
 It would be neat.
[00:32] <wxl> i wish desktop management was its own component. it always seems integrated into other parts of the desktop environment
 Yeah, it sure is pretty tight to the FM.
[00:34] <wxl> or in the case of kde, plasma
[00:34] <wxl> (which is also a catch-all for a bunch of other things)
[00:34] <wxl> there are parts of plasma i wish they'd just rip out. activities for example. ugh.
[00:35] <wxl> i have a whole COMPANY running kubuntu and NO ONE HAS A NEED FOR ACTIVITIES!!!!!
 Different ways to get it done I guess. Everything has gotchas.
[00:35]  * wxl shrugs
[00:35] <wxl> i guess the biggest problem i have with activities is that you can turn them off
 That could be annoying.
[00:37] <wxl> and they come default with keystrokes to switch acitivities. every now and then someone accidentially hits it and then they can't figure out why firefox is saying it's running when they can't see it. and then i kill those shortcuts with fire XD
 Nuke it from orbit, that is the only way to be sure.
[00:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc79bb569e7f5: Add how to change look of taskbar panel] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc79bb569e7f5
[00:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALcf959eea8ff5: Add keyboard shortcuts for changing tabs] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALcf959eea8ff5
[00:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1e4e69691002: Remove accidental duplicate text oops] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1e4e69691002
[01:06] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8589f71367ec: Add show desktop to useful keyboard shortcuts] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8589f71367ec
[01:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5b4686cd3993: Start desktop modes] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5b4686cd3993
[03:07] <guiverc> qa-test i686 daily; thinkpad t43; the volume up/down work, mute button mutes but does not unmute.  i can unmute with either up/down vol keys.. do you want me to ignore this (ie. quirk of this machine?) or explore further, eg.  i could try the 16.04 I think it has installed & see it behaves the same there??
 Me too
 The volume buttons weren't working on my thinkpad either
[03:11] <guiverc> i hate it mute & unmute on two dells i tested earlier today..
[03:11] <guiverc> s/hate/had/
[03:13] <teward> dells are nicer.  thinkpads are eviler
[03:16] <guiverc> i'll just note in comments for qa-test & move on..
[03:32] <guiverc> teward: just doing another test on a different thinkpad; no function of mute there :(   "eviler"
 @tsimonq2 thanks for all the hard work, l-ubunteros thanks for all the hard work. Today is the Ubuntu Community Appreciation Day! ... I want to thank all of you, this is a great Community to stay
 OOH my favorite day!
 Thanks @Neyder :)
[12:39] <docEbrown> hey @tsimonq2!
 Morning docEbrown :)
[12:40] <docEbrown> evening ;) 
 I can't say I enjoy this 6:30 AM wakeup call here :/
 But yeah, how have things been? :)
[12:41] <docEbrown> ooh sorry!
[12:41] <docEbrown> Not bad, tell me IRC didn't wake you up?!
 It's all good, school (I'm still in high school (secondary school, I dunno what Australians call it))
[12:42] <docEbrown> ha high school! Mate, you are one busy man. 
 Hehe :)
[12:42] <docEbrown> What grade are you in?! 
 11th
[12:44] <docEbrown> I think I am ready for some additional testing.  I have dome what I can by setting up some fake services irc, launchpad etc but without actual commits
 Second to last year, although I hope to graduate a semester early
 @docEbrown [<docEbrown> I think I am ready for some additional testing.  I have dome what I …], Sweet!
[12:45] <docEbrown> I imagine if you are doind disto dev as a hobby you wont need to worry! So SATs next year then?  
[12:45] <docEbrown> Should I put it up as an arc diff or just update the github diffhook branch before hand
 @docEbrown [<docEbrown> I imagine if you are doind disto dev as a hobby you wont need to wor …], ACTs in this part of the US :) I got a 24 in 7th grade so I should be fine I think...
 @docEbrown [<docEbrown> Should I put it up as an arc diff or just update the github diffhook …], Just try an arc diff :)
[12:46] <docEbrown> I have no idea what that means but I'm sure its great! I finished school quite some time ago!  
 :D
 (24/36)
[12:47] <docEbrown> Cool, in terms of hooking into PyPi etc, is there some official lubuntu details in terms of authorship
[12:47] <docEbrown> *authorship
[12:47] <docEbrown> You'll be fine!
 @docEbrown [<docEbrown> Cool, in terms of hooking into PyPi etc, is there some official lubu …], Not particularly; it's up to you if you want to have it owned by Lubuntu or yourself but if it's the former, when we establish a legal entity we can give that the copyright...
 @docEbrown [<docEbrown> You'll be fine!], I hope so :)
[12:49] <docEbrown> ok fair enough, I'll just use myself and we can transfer later.  One last question I promise! Git tags, do you typically apply them?  If so I'll use versioneer for version management
 @docEbrown [<docEbrown> ok fair enough, I'll just use myself and we can transfer later.  One …], I do
 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-community-appreciation-day-2018/8813
 https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-community-appreciation-day-2018/8813/2?u=tsimonq2
[19:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL5407bdb49f57: Add short and long formats to the clock] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL5407bdb49f57
[19:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: Our default LibreOffice theme looks bad] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#3397
[19:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T137: Deal with disappeared lubuntu-core] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T137#3401
[20:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL47fcb3fade50: Add customized clock time zone] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL47fcb3fade50
[20:02] <wxl> @docEbrown seems your code is trying to make everyone phone home https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-workspace/+bug/1508619/comments/7
 HAH
 My fault
[20:04] <wxl> oh
 I'll fix it
 IN FACT
 I blame @teward001
 OHH
 I thought that was from the Lugito bot
[20:08] <wxl> it is, isn't it?
 No, Ben got a local Phab instance with Lugito running to test
[20:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf2a7c13292a0: Add checkbox for time zone and posistion] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf2a7c13292a0
 His changes aren't merged yet
[20:08] <wxl> ah
 and I blame xnox
 I mean what?
 @teward001 [and I blame xnox], Who in turn blames vorlon
 IT'S ALL VORLON'S FAULT AAAAH
[20:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL42a76a5938bd: Add spacing to desktop notification] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL42a76a5938bd
 So wxl, docEbrown will be here for the standup but I don't think he's here now.
[20:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: Our default LibreOffice theme looks bad] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#3402
[20:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALa7eb991ae529: Add how to manually set time] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALa7eb991ae529
 Just a reminder that the standup is in a little over an hour
[20:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL137e3492a65a: Add saving settings to monitor settings] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL137e3492a65a
 @tsimonq2 [Just a reminder that the standup is in a little over an hour], good to know, I'm confused with the times.
[21:00] <wxl> are the times not localized?
[21:02] <wxl> if not you can make them: https://phab.lubuntu.me/settings/user/hmollercl/page/datetime/
 its ok, is a problem with my country, i like we are testing when to change to daylight saving is better. Now we have lik 9 months with one time and 3 with the other.
 so i'm not always sure that the time is correct
[21:08] <wxl> oh boy
[21:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL423865d21c70: Add copying text and images to qpdfview] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL423865d21c70
[21:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd84de5522fef: Add middle click paste to tips and tricks] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd84de5522fef
[21:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1fb46330eab6: Remove alpha from the release of the manual it is way better quality than that] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1fb46330eab6
[21:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL835adab94d3c: Add a green box with a zipper] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL835adab94d3c
[21:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL370abe12183c: Add description of icon to featherpad] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL370abe12183c
[21:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL537eda2836aa: Add description of Kcalc icon] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL537eda2836aa
[21:57] <tsimonq2> \o\ /o/ \o\ /o/ \o\ /o/
[21:57] <tsimonq2> Meeting time soon!
[21:58] <tsimonq2> https://phab.lubuntu.me/E15
[21:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL552e5376db4d: Add icon for pcmanfm-qt] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL552e5376db4d
[21:58] <tsimonq2> If you didn't mark your attendance, please do for future meetings so I can get a shuffle going :)
[22:00] <tsimonq2> $ echo $(shuf -e tsimonq2 wxl kc2bez @Wafficus lynorian)
[22:00] <tsimonq2> wxl lynorian @Wafficus kc2bez tsimonq2
[22:00] <tsimonq2> Alright, if you're not on that list but around, let me know :)
[22:00] <tsimonq2> wxl: You're up, amigo.
 I'm around
[22:00] <tsimonq2> Heya
[22:00] <wxl> ok yay
[22:00] <wxl> well haven't done too much this week, actually
[22:01] <wxl> maybe most impactful: confirmed (myself) the libreoffice thing is fixed for cosmic and closed https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96
[22:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Resolved] Our default LibreOffice theme looks bad: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96
[22:01] <tsimonq2> \o/
[22:01] <wxl> please note @HMollerCl's comment at the end.. your advise will be appreciated there, @tsimonq2. my guess is the answer is no since it will require an SRU.
 I'm around
[22:02] <tsimonq2> Alright.
[22:02] <tsimonq2> wxl: ack, anything else? :)
[22:02] <wxl> somehow upstream paid attention to my issue with .desktop entries requiring the terminal and fixed it, despite all their unproductive banter, so i made a task to fix it https://phab.lubuntu.me/T170
[22:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] properly launch desktop entries in terminal: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T170
[22:02] <tsimonq2> ouuu
 Just got outta work
[22:03] <wxl> i also did a TON of testing (have been for weeks now) on what's going on with calamares not showing up in full on every screen and made a task for that https://phab.lubuntu.me/T171
[22:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Open] make Calamares work well with smaller screens: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T171
[22:03] <wxl> i'm not entirely sure what's going on there, but it does seem that making it maximized makes it work, so maybe we should just make it open maximized. more testing will need to be done
[22:04] <tsimonq2> Right, I remember doing something similar with QTerminal.
[22:04] <tsimonq2> I had to cherry-pick a patch for that.
[22:04] <tsimonq2> Maybe go see what had to be done for that? :)
[22:04] <wxl> i also responded to a post on ubuntu-devel-discuss about how "bad" lxqt was and how pixel (a slightly revised lxde) should be used https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2018-November/018173.html
[22:04] <tsimonq2> I don't think upstream would be opposed to a "start as maximized" config option.
[22:04] <wxl> yeah it would be a nice thing, i think
[22:05] <wxl> if that's what it taskes. like i said, i don't know. more investigation needed
[22:05] <tsimonq2> Alright.
[22:05] <wxl> i could use some help if anyone deals with samba/cifs/smb stuff. there's some bugs i just don't know how to confirm or deny
 I can probably lend a hand there.
[22:06] <lynorian> not something I personally use
[22:06] <tsimonq2> Me neither, although I have been nagged about it in person. :P
 @wxl [<wxl> i could use some help if anyone deals with samba/cifs/smb stuff. there's s …], the ones in 18.04 ??
[22:06] <wxl> one other thing i'll mention (it's a little old) is that i did get a reply confirming the crash when repeatedly sorting in trojita. so we're edging closer
[22:07] <wxl> @HMollerCl that's the one at the top of my mind, yes, but i think i have another one floating around in the inbox
[22:07] <wxl> that bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1790924
 I use cifs all days, i can help
 Feel free to ping me as well.
[22:07] <wxl> so if you want to put some eyes on that, @kc2bez and @HMollerCl, i'd really really appreciate it
 ooo, that one
 Will do.
[22:08] <wxl> if you can confirm it, please do so. if you cannot, please post a comment as cuh and let me know
[22:08] <wxl> s/cuh/such/
[22:09] <wxl> and with that, i'm done i believe
 my problem is that i never saw that happen not even in 16.04. For me is a future request, not a bug
[22:09] <tsimonq2> Ahh.
 I've put some comments in there
[22:09] <wxl> @HMollerCl well, the pictures are pretty telling. they are definitely seeing different behavior between 16/18
[22:09] <tsimonq2> Let's follow up after the meeting :)
[22:09] <wxl> it may have something to do with how they are mounting
[22:09] <wxl> yep
[22:09] <tsimonq2> If wxl is done, lynorian is next.
 @tsimonq2 [(wxl is US west coast, I'm US central ;) )], East coast is where it's at. ;)
[22:09] <tsimonq2> How's that manual? :)
[22:10] <wxl> HAHAHAHAH
[22:10] <wxl> that is the most rhetorical question of them all!!!
 @q5sys [East coast is where it's at. ;)], Oh wow, backlog from OVER A MONTH AGO, jeezus 😆
[22:10] <lynorian> going great 
[22:10] <wxl> LYNORIAN IS AWESOME AND DESERVES A MEDAL
[22:10] <tsimonq2> ^^^^^^^^^
 This ^^
 @wxl [<wxl> LYNORIAN IS AWESOME AND DESERVES A MEDAL], +100
[22:10] <tsimonq2> Absofreakinglutely.
 @tsimonq2 [Oh wow, backlog from OVER A MONTH AGO, jeezus 😆], my comments age like a fine wine.
 @q5sys [my comments age like a fine wine.], :P
[22:11] <wxl> we had somenoe pop into #lubuntu and ask about selecting text in qpdfview and like a few minutes later she had added it to the manual
 @tsimonq2 where is your bug tracker?
[22:11] <wxl> i mean, it's unbelivably awesome
 I can never remember
 I wanted to file two bugs related to the installer that we've talked about
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/bugs/
 if I dont do it while im thinking about it... I never will.
 @tsimonq2 [https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/bugs/], ^
[22:11] <tsimonq2> Anyway lynorian :)
[22:11] <lynorian> Well we also done more on muon and discover
[22:11] <wxl> we have long, long needed someone doing this. i am really deeply indebted to you lynorian
[22:12] <tsimonq2> ^
[22:12] <tsimonq2> lynorian: Sweet!
[22:12] <lynorian> more on pcmanfm-qt view modes
[22:12] <lynorian> as confusing as those can be
[22:12] <wxl> oh that's a good one. i didn't notice that but someone was confused by how discover and muon differ (discover only shows packages with appdata)
[22:12] <lynorian> a bit m,ore on friday on laptop stuff for wifi and battery discharged
[22:12] <wxl> yeah that issue :/
 @tsimonq2 [^], ugh... i need a launchpad account?
 @q5sys [ugh... i need a launchpad account?], To file bugs, duh. :P
 Get with the system, yo!
 please tell me lauchpad has github oauth
[22:13] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[22:13]  * wxl is not telling such a thing
[22:13] <tsimonq2> lynorian: Any other highlights?
[22:13] <tsimonq2> I'm asking for highlights because you've done a LOT :)
[22:14] <lynorian> lxqt-panel customizing
[22:15] <lynorian> I am done now
[22:15] <tsimonq2> Awesome, thanks again for your work. :)
[22:16] <tsimonq2> @Wafficus: What's new?
[22:16] <tsimonq2> (You're up.)
[22:17] <tsimonq2> Let's skip you for now (since I don't see you typing on Telegram) and come back to you in a bit. :)
[22:17] <tsimonq2> kc2bez: Heya!
 o/
[22:17] <tsimonq2> What's new? :)
 Been travelling for work, should be around more this week. ... Created task for update notification https://phab.lubuntu.me/T166 ... Can't keep up with lynorian but proofing when I can. ... Ping me if you think I can help test something.
[22:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Package update notification: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T166
[22:18] <lynorian> agreed on must have for 19.04
[22:18] <tsimonq2> Awesome :)
 Alright I'm on the train but I'll do my best to provide updates between stops. Here I go:
 So Simon approved my CMake code, I just need the dimensions from Wendy and I'll be able to get the first screen functional for the welcome center. So far the two buttons for the Lubuntu webpage and contribute section link out successfully. I have notes from simons call regarding how to open up OS specific programs like windows stylin
 It seems important.
 @Wafficus [Alright I'm on the train but I'll do my best to provide updates between stops. H …], aha, I see now
 He got the notification but signal was delayed
[22:19] <docEbrown> sorry I'm late
 Otherwise that's it for me. It's been just doing qt tutorials on YouTube and learning from c++ primer 5th edition
 Thats it for me
[22:19] <tsimonq2> Cool
[22:19] <tsimonq2> docEbrown: You're good :)
 @kc2bez Was that all for you?
 I think I am done too.
[22:20] <tsimonq2> Cool.
[22:20] <tsimonq2> Uh oh, I guess it's my turn. XDDDDDDDD
[22:20] <tsimonq2> (plsnoban)
[22:20] <tsimonq2> * Disco Dingo work:
[22:20] <tsimonq2>   - It seems that autosync has been turned off for now while the transition fun is happening, so if anything needs to be synced ASAP, let me know.
[22:20] <tsimonq2>   - Worked to rectify the fact that our CSS and Kubuntu's CSS for cdimage.ubuntu.com is messed up after the recent default CSS update. Submitted a paper-over: https://code.launchpad.net/~tsimonq2/ubuntu-cdimage/restore-kubuntu-lubuntu-css/+merge/358940
[22:20] <tsimonq2>     + This hasn't been accepted yet; I need to follow up with vorlon. In the meantime, maybe @TheWendyPower can look into fixing the CSS, otherwise xnox (yes @teward001 you got that right) volunteered.
[22:20] <tsimonq2>   - Sponsored apt-ghetto's lxqt-sudo work, thanks! - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-sudo/0.13.0-0ubuntu3
[22:20] <tsimonq2>   - Worked on OEM support: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T33
[22:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Wishlist, Open] Configure OEM: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T33
[22:20] <tsimonq2>     + Cherry-picked the patches and made sure they worked. I'll probably follow up on the task about how exactly we want to structure things.
[22:20] <tsimonq2>     + As a side note, I figured out how to fix the browser launch issue we've been having. Turns out it's being launched as root, so I can do a (somewhat hacky) workaround by launching Cala like this: `bash -c "export BROWSER='sudo -H -u lubuntu firefox'; sudo -E calamares"` but [ade] wants me to file an issue which I have yet to get to. :P
[22:21] <tsimonq2>   - Qt maintenance:
[22:21] <tsimonq2>     + The Qt 5.11.2 transition is still ongoing; it should migrate by the end of the week.
[22:21] <tsimonq2>     + Merged qtbase from Debian fixing Debian bug 913499 Debian bug 913287 (among a handful of other changes): https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtbase-opensource-src/5.11.2+dfsg-6ubuntu1
[22:21] <tsimonq2>     + Synced qttools from Debian fixing bug 1799111: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qttools-opensource-src/5.11.2-5
[22:21] <tsimonq2> * Thanked y'all here: https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-community-appreciation-day-2018/8813 <3
[22:21] <tsimonq2> * My RT was just filed in Debian to be established as a Debian Developer, sweeeeet!
[22:21] <tsimonq2> * Got some help wrt my homework mountain; I'll be back to normal now.
[22:21] <tsimonq2> Alright, that's all I'd prepared.
[22:21] <tsimonq2> BUT.
[22:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T166: Package update notification] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T166#3404
 xnox is on my ping list for another mirrors related thing anyways tsimonq2 - it doesnt surprise me he volunteered
[22:21] <docEbrown> Debian developer! Congrats!
 CSS foolery is needed heh
[22:21] <tsimonq2> One other thing I want to mention is that we've been working on Lubuntu Council stuff on the backend :)
[22:22] <tsimonq2> docEbrown: Thanks!
[22:22] <tsimonq2> I want to submit it to the Ubuntu Community Council this week for approval but we have a constitution drawn up.
[22:22] <tsimonq2> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/constitution/
[22:22] <tsimonq2> I still have some corrections to make but it's mostly done.
 Congrats on the Debian Dev gig. Is that paying or are you going to be a dev on their team?
[22:22] <tsimonq2> @Wafficus: It's just upload rights :)
[22:23] <tsimonq2> Sort of like with Ubuntu
 heh
 Nice
[22:23] <tsimonq2> Anyway that's about it for me. Broke Weblate and @teward001 fixed it I think. :P
[22:23] <tsimonq2> MAYBE.
 Pretty impressed. I wish I was doing half of what you're doing when I was in hs.
 Anyway keep it up
[22:23] <tsimonq2> I'll give it a second before I call on our other people to let wxl digest ALL THE TEXT :)
[22:24] <tsimonq2> @Wafficus: Thanks!
[22:24] <wxl> oh it's all good, i just turned /ignore on
[22:24] <tsimonq2> HAHAHAHA
[22:24] <tsimonq2> well
[22:24] <tsimonq2> You at least read the logs right? XD
[22:24] <wxl> i'm kidding :)
[22:24] <tsimonq2> hahaha
[22:24] <tsimonq2> anyway
[22:24] <tsimonq2> so
[22:24] <wxl> i do hope you file that cala bug cuz that hack is FUGLY
[22:25] <tsimonq2> I believe @HMollerCl was next?
[22:25] <tsimonq2> wxl: ikr
[22:25] <wxl> makes my stomache turn
 ok
 so, I tested the LO SRU, it worked so @wxl could approved it.
 I've been looking at the tooltip problem in libreoffice, apparently is a gtk issue, it also happens to kubuntu and the ones that don't use full gnome https://phab.lubuntu.me/T163
[22:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Triage, Open] LibreOffice blinking buttons and description on hover: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T163
 yes, that @lugito
[22:26] <tsimonq2> XD
[22:27]  * tsimonq2 pets lubot 
[22:27] <tsimonq2> er
[22:27] <tsimonq2> and lugito 
[22:27] <tsimonq2> XD
[22:27] <tsimonq2> anyway
 I've been also looking to the dark notification icons. The way I see it tehre are 3 possible solutions, I put them here https://phab.lubuntu.me/T128
[22:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] To-Do/Wish List: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T128
 lugito is reading my mind?
[22:28] <tsimonq2> It's a bot :P
 anyway, in simple. The combination of papirus+dark panel+light windows, doesn't work.
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> It's a bot :P], it copies the link I put in telegram?
 yes
 among other things
 aaaaaaaaaaaaa, that new, I believe.
 lastly, since I'm porting the additional driver tab, maybe I coudl look at package update notification https://phab.lubuntu.me/T166
[22:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Package update notification: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T166
 that should be in software-properties-gtk I think
 that would be
[22:31] <tsimonq2> Good idea.
 That's all on my side
[22:33] <tsimonq2> Alright :)
[22:33] <tsimonq2> docEbrown: Heya!
[22:33] <tsimonq2> How's things?
[22:34] <docEbrown> hey, so good.  I am ready to push the diff for lugito, I fell asleep last night before getting a chance to do so.  Just need to reinstall arcanist.  It will need some in-situ testing as I've tested a bunch using temp services I've set up but obviously couldnt test stuff like launchpad commits etc
[22:35] <docEbrown> There are still some todo items but we can get to those in the future I think
[22:35] <tsimonq2> docEbrown: I can go ahead and pull your changes to prod.
[22:35] <tsimonq2> Should be fine, I've seen your code and it looks good. :)
[22:35] <docEbrown> ok, cool.  I'll have some more instructions as there is now a .lugitorc file which contains a bunch of config stuff
[22:36] <tsimonq2> Alright :D
[22:36] <tsimonq2> Thanks for your work on this! It's really appreciated.
[22:36] <tsimonq2> wxl did find a bug you commented on though, so maybe go hide that. ;P
[22:36] <tsimonq2> (with the bot)
[22:36] <docEbrown> cool.  Thats about it really.  I'll keep working on some todos once it is pushed and will try and help elsewhere where I can!
[22:37] <tsimonq2> Could you remind me where your code is?
[22:37] <tsimonq2> Ahh, found it.
[22:37] <docEbrown> I haven't pushed the lates changes to github yet.
[22:38] <tsimonq2> OK, please go ahead :)
[22:38] <docEbrown> Oh also RE: the launchpadlib bug, I got a hold of @cjwatson?  there is a fix in the works but hasn't landed yet
[22:38] <tsimonq2> Sweet, thanks
[22:38] <tsimonq2> And please don't squash your commits ;) it's good to have them self-contained.
[22:39] <docEbrown> Cool, I'll push the update and then do the arc diff.  Once the fix lands I'll remove the constraint on the launchpadlib version
[22:39] <docEbrown> Ok np, I wont squash ;)
[22:39] <tsimonq2> Otherwise, good work, wxl might have some more stuff for you :D
[22:39] <tsimonq2> Cool
[22:39] <docEbrown> Awsome, I have some C++ experience but have never used gtk etc.  Thats all from me
[22:39] <tsimonq2> GTK is meh anyway...
[22:40] <tsimonq2> Did I forget anyone or can we call this a wrap? :)
[22:40] <tsimonq2> Going once...
[22:40] <tsimonq2> Going twice...
[22:40] <tsimonq2> Alright, see y'all next meeting!
[22:40] <tsimonq2> Keep up the good work
[22:41] <docEbrown> happy thanksgiving!
[22:41] <tsimonq2> https://phab.lubuntu.me/E16 <-- please everyone go accept or decline here
[22:41] <tsimonq2> docEbrown: You (and everyone else) as well :D
[22:41] <docEbrown> ha thanks ;) No thanksgiving here unfortunately ;/
[22:41] <tsimonq2> aww :(
[22:41] <tsimonq2> Emphasis on this though: https://phab.lubuntu.me/E16
[22:42] <tsimonq2> (for everyone)
 @wxl should we look at the cifs "bug"?
[22:47] <docEbrown> @tsimonq2 I just pushed an update to my github fork.  Will do the arc diff after work this afternoon.  Cheers
[22:47] <tsimonq2> Sweet!
[22:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUGITOf327136c34ad: * Added updating IRC in response to newly created/edited diffs * Significant…] doc-E-brown (Ben Johnston) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUGITOf327136c34ad
[22:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUGITOe445368ef9bd: Added .lugitorc configuration and hooked the config files into the connectors.] doc-E-brown (Ben Johnston) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUGITOe445368ef9bd
[22:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rLUGITO9f4ba7da6e4a: Update to README.rst with some additional information regarding phabricator…] doc-E-brown (Ben Johnston) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rLUGITO9f4ba7da6e4a
[22:49] <docEbrown> Well lets see if it works ;) You will need to add all the relevant connection details to the .lugitorc 
[22:50] <tsimonq2> Yup, working on it :)
[22:50] <docEbrown> fingers crossed!
[22:51] <wxl> @HMollerCl @kc2bez if you want to work on the cifs thing, i'd be happy to advise but i can't help test :)
 the thing is we also have that problem in 18.10
 so we need to fix for both
 I am downloading a bionic iso now.
 I have bionic in my house. cifs doesn't appear as other unit, that's true (but I don't remember that in 16.04 it did)
[22:53] <tsimonq2> docEbrown: Running it via the shell to make sure it doesn't throw a stacktrace right away. :P
[22:54] <tsimonq2> 2018-11-20 16:53:42,275 - __main__ - DEBUG - :NickServ!NickServ@services. NOTICE lugito :Invalid password for lugito.
[22:54] <tsimonq2> Uff, and I know it's the right one.
[22:54] <tsimonq2> Doesn't work with quotation marks either.
[22:54] <tsimonq2> hmm
[22:55] <tsimonq2> I'll fix it, just give me a min :)
[23:02] <docEbrown> damn! Maybe something to do with how configparser interpret quotation marks?
[23:03] <tsimonq2> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[23:03] <docEbrown> can you give me an example that is similar in structure but obviously isnt the actual password and I can test it?
 Sure, sec.
[23:17] <wxl> oh @tsimonq2 last time i booted a daily, cala was running so i think our python issues are fixed but do we have anything else for https://phab.lubuntu.me/T169 ??
 yeah a nasty langpack problem
 it's what pulls in Py2 deps
 (Document) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/hc46FOBJ/file_4818.mp4
 but iirc that's because of the chinese langpacks being aded to the image.
 Not anymore
 @teward001 [but iirc that's because of the chinese langpacks being aded to the image.], Nope
 oh you fixed that?
 Fixed
 nice.
 y'all made 0 comments on it so i mean :p
 @teward001 [y'all made 0 comments on it so i mean :p], It was a commit message here :P
 Hheh
 bleh stupid crappy tablet DIE!  *throws it out the window*
[23:21] <wxl> you're referring to different its
 glad to see py2 is gone :P
 @lugito [<lugito>  3[  13rSEEDc8729c3a3541: Remove all other langpacks installed on the l …], ^
[23:22] <wxl> so i'm marking this as done then
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEEDc8729c3a3541
 wxl: unless there's anything else on a py2 or py3.6 headachey migration evils then yeah that task is done
 since the langpacks are yoinked out though, and cala's no longer giving weirdness I can't think of anything that I observed being stupid with such evil deps
 yoinked out now*
 Hey I missed the previous bit
 Is there a huge bug to take care of in a vm
 ?
 I have cuttlefish installed but could use a vm with 1 gig of ram for Bionic
 Btw idk if this is a bug but I'm in Firefox and ctrl + left shift + t doesn't work but ctrl + right shift + t does work. Not sure if this is a lubuntu or Firefox issue
[23:38] <guiverc> qa-test , windows are warping to a new location or opening in a strange location (somewhat offscreen) (qterminal, pcmanfm-qt..) - what package to file under please?
[23:43] <guiverc> (includes firefox, lximage-qt - ie. something underneath program I'm using..) -- sorry I don't know the stack
[23:45] <wxl> could be an openbox issue
[23:47] <wxl> guiverc: did you look at the window manager preferences?
[23:47] <wxl> maybe we should make "center new windows" the default
[23:48] <guiverc> :)    - filing against openbox  (i'll explore more when I've recorded what i've found, before i forget it all...)
[23:50] <guiverc> thanks wxl :)
[23:51] <wxl> LXDE doesn't seem to have the center option
[23:56] <kc2bez> wxl @hmollercl can someone confirm `mount -t cifs` is the proper way to mount a cifs share. It seems like the better way is to use `mount.cifs` http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/mount.cifs.8.html
[23:57] <wxl> afaik they are one in the same
 I mount it with: ... sudo mount -t cifs -o credentials=/home/hmoller/.smbcredentials,iocharset=utf8,gid=1000,uid=1000,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777,vers=1.0 //mollery/hmoller /mnt/mollery/hmoller
 where credentials=/home/hmoller/.smbcredentials is where my passwd is