[00:00] I have a really small (not bigger than a thumb) USB 2.0 of 32Gb and I was considering in installing Xubuntu into it or even Lubuntu [00:02] Exterminador: the biggest concern you should have is how fast it is to move data; some can be really slow and that isn't useful to support a GUI, but is probably fine for console/shell only. [00:02] TJ-: For an office PC that I'll be remotely accessing as well, would it be more typical to be using "suspend" or "hibernate" when the computer is idle? [00:02] Exterminador: that in turn can sometimes depend on which type of USB controller it is attached to (USB2 vs USB3) [00:03] well, I'm quite sure I don't have any USB3 ports. usually they are blue, right? [00:03] apeman: I'd think S3 suspend would be best, because you can use Wake-On-LAN to wake it up instantly if required, whereas WoL from hibernate could be problematic (hibernation/resume is still an iffy area) [00:03] Exterminador: yes [00:04] then, they're all USB2 [00:05] I believe that an external SSD would be better for what I'm thinking [00:09] Exterminador: flash drives have limited life compared to ssd which have algorithms to write cells randomly a usb stick doesn't, constant write operations on a usb stick will kill it fast [00:11] stn616: noted. :) [00:24] Is it necessary to have a /boot partition for Ubuntu 18? [00:26] apeman, 18.04 standard installs in one partition, including swapfile, not swappartition. [00:26] for uefi, I think so. without uefi, it still has a bootloader [00:31] apeman: no [00:32] OerHeks: I'm installing on SSD and HDD so trying to figure out what I need to do [00:35] apeman: the UEFI partition compdoc mentions isn't a regular /boot partition. [00:36] apeman: but, yes. it's basically the substitute for the MBR. [00:36] apeman: you need that plus whatever partitions you're using for the actual system. [00:48] Does it matter which order you create partitions? [00:49] apeman: not usually, although some older firmware want the boot-loader near the start of the device (before 2GB) [00:55] actually that's one of the problems I was having, I created a 100M partition for boot and the installation failed, took me a few hours to realize I needed a bigger partition for boot [00:55] imagine that 170M just to store a few kernels and grub... [00:58] apeman: you need at least 200M for boot and 260 for efi (vfat) if you are going to dual boot with windows [01:00] I'd recommend at least 500MB for /boot/ since in the deefault config the typical initrd.img will be close to 60MB each [01:00] TJ-: isn't that only relevant to ancient BIOS? [01:00] allow for the standard 3 kernel versions, plus some others if youu've not enabled automatic old kernel removal [01:00] they had limitations about how much data they could read. [01:01] ryuo: makes no difference; I'm talking about /boot/ when it is a separate file-system [01:01] Hello. I've an ubuntu 16.04 laptop. When I reboot it, the screen is stuck at /dev/sda1: recovering journal, /dev/sda1: clean, x/y files. q/b blocks [01:02] ryuo: if you're on about the boot-loader, then in BIOS mode, GRUB's core image needs around 1MB. On MBR that is written in the spare sectors from sector #1 to the start of the 1st partition(usually sector 2048). On GPT it needs a BIOS Boot Partition which I usually reserve 2MB for. [01:03] ryuo: in UEFI mode there needs to be an EFI System Partition instead, FAT16, less than 256MB is fine [01:04] TJ-: i'm aware. [01:04] TJ-: i just wasn't aware of such a limitation in newer systems. [01:05] ryuo: the 2GB limit for BIOS/legacy boot? it's not so common but we've seen a few CSMs that have it [01:05] I see. [01:05] ryuo: I assume they use signed int for their sector offsets! [01:05] stn616: I'm only going to be using Ubuntu. So I take it if I create / on the SSD then /boot will be created by the installer, as in there's no need for me to create a separate /boot partition? [01:07] hmm [01:07] apeman: if /boot/ is in the root-fs then there's no problem with size of course [01:08] apeman: I use separate /boot/ in combination with LUKS encryption, so even if that file-system is unlocked, the rootfs still needs to be unlocked separately [01:09] okay. So when I do startx, I get error saying /usr/bin/x : not found. xinit: giving up, unable to connect to X server: connection refused. There's no internet connectivity too [01:09] how can I fix this? [01:10] virmaha: why are you using startx? why not use the display manager/ [01:11] hmm [01:11] TJ-: oops i was just checking journalctl | tail -n 100 and I saw that command so [01:11] TJ-: how can i test using display manager? [01:12] virmaha: depends on which one is installed. For regular Ubuntu then it is likely gdm3. For others it could be lightdm. So you can do "sudo systemctl start " [01:13] gdm3 - service not found [01:13] lightdm - job for lightdm.service failed as control process exited with error code. See systemctlt status lightdm.service and journalctl -xe for details [01:14] TJ-: ^ [01:14] I'm confused by the limit of 4 primary partitions is mentioned in a lot of guides. I also read a guide saying that if you're using GPT then there is no limit to the number of primary partitions. [01:14] it looks like it can't find /usr/bin/X [01:14] Is that true, and how would I "choose" to use GPT? [01:14] virmaha: those recommended commands will show you some log messages [01:15] ubuntu sucks [01:15] yeah looking at that TJ- It's same error which I mentioned above [01:15] thus you are all suckers [01:15] xinit : unable to run server "/usr/bin/x" no such file or directory [01:15] apeman: MBR only allows 4 primary partitions; for more you have to create an extended partition on 1 of those 4, which can then contain an additional 4 logical partitions, and that can repeat up to, I think, 127 [01:15] eee2: hi mr. troll. you hungry today [01:15] :D [01:15] haven't eaten yet [01:15] virmaha: right, so you're missing packages then, or files have been deleted! [01:16] TJ-: :o but how do i fix that without internet access [01:16] virmaha: try "apt list xserver-xorg-core" --- does it say it is installed? [01:17] TJ-: yeah..ot sjpws N: there are 2 additional versions. PLease use -a switch [01:17] virmaha: also, more importantly, which ubuntu release is that, and which flavour (ubuntu, lubuntu, xubuntu, mate, budgie, kubuntu ...) ? [01:17] TJ-: ubuntu 16.04, xenial [01:17] virmaha: "ot sjpws N" ? [01:18] oops TJ- I mean yeah, the package are installed [01:18] xserver-xorg-core/xenial-updates, xenial-security and xenial [01:18] virmaha: right, that package contains /usr/bin/X so if that file is missing you've got some kind of corruption [01:18] 2:1.1.18.4-0ubuntu0.8 amd64 [01:18] ahh I see..so how to fix that TJ- :S [01:18] virmaha: try "ls -l /usr/bin/X" - should be a symbolic link to Xorg [01:19] TJ-: But can I tell the Ubuntu installer to create a GPT drive? [01:19] "cannot access /usr/bin/x' : No such file or directory [01:19] virmaha: the "apt list ..." report, did it show "[installed,automatic]" ? [01:20] virmaha: if you didn't see "installed" then it isn't installed [01:20] TJ-: nothing like that [01:20] virmaha: right, so it isn't installed. [01:20] but how did it work before then :| [01:20] virmaha: so you'll need network to install [01:20] virmaha: you've managed to delete something [01:20] i've been using laptop for weeks [01:20] and rebooted it today [01:20] how viable is it to switch to wayland and then back to X if the apps I need dont work. [01:20] virmaha: there may be clues in the log: "less /var/log/apt/history.log" [01:21] apeman: the installer should use GPT by default [01:21] I have two screens with massively different resolution [01:21] apeman: we only usually run into MBR now when installing alongside older Windows [01:21] ah TJ- could be. I was playing around with apt-get dselect-upgrade [01:22] TJ-: So on a new system to only have linux the concern about limit 4 partitions is nonexistent? [01:22] TJ-: how to get network access. ifonfig shows only loopback address [01:22] virmaha: if you're *very* lucky the package .deb files might still be in the cache: "ls /var/cache/apt/archives/" [01:23] what should I grep for? [01:23] i see lot of files [01:23] xserver-common , xvfb etc [01:23] xserver-xorg-core [01:23] hi, does anyone use some Desktop program of translation? So, for example, i can click in any word in any program and translate it fast? [01:23] no luck [01:23] virmaha: if you do "sudo apt install xserver-xorg-core" and it is in the cache it'll be installed [01:24] only have xserver-common [01:24] virmaha: right, so you need to bring up the network. Do you know your gatteway router's IPv4 address? [01:24] virmaha: or does the network use IPv6 SLAAC ? [01:24] TJ-: I used to connect via wifi or ethernet cable [01:25] I can plug it in my other laptop and get the gateway router's ipv4 [01:25] virmaha: right, from the GUI? so that'd be NetworkManager? [01:25] virmaha: if so we can bring that up from console [01:25] virmaha: "nmli con" should list all your network connections. Do you see your wifi name there? [01:25] virmaha: "nmcli con" (typo) [01:26] program nmcli is not installed [01:26] :S [01:26] virmaha: you've broken it [01:27] i plugged my ethernet cable to windows machine, did ipconfig and found default gateway ip [01:27] virmaha: plug an Ethernet cable in [01:27] virmaha: then do "ip link show" and figure out the device name (should start with en...) [01:28] okay found one TJ- [01:28] virmaha: then do "sudo dhclient enXXXXX &" and if you're lucky DHCP should get a lease [01:28] virmaha: then you can do "ip addr show" and check there's an IPv4 address, and then "ip route show" and check there is a route with "default" in it pointing to your gateway router [01:29] virmaha: lastly, you need to check there is name resolution for DNS, with something like "ping -c 5 archive.ubuntu.com" [01:30] Can anyone tell me how to install and configure fcitx. All the information I find through Google is old [01:30] ip addr show shows eno1: mtu 1500 link/ether <12 hex chars> brd ff:ff::ff::ff::ff::ff [01:30] ip route show shows nothing [01:30] ping says unknown host [01:30] virmaha: did you do the dhclient step? [01:31] TJ-: yep [01:31] virmaha: eno1 "no carrier" means the link isn't up... cable issue? [01:31] quidnunc, maybe this page is any help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1062907/cant-change-from-ibus-to-fcitx [01:32] OerHeks: Thanks I saw it. I tried doing that but it hasn't worked, at least without a reboot [01:32] TJ-: ah the cable was loose. Now it showed [2] [1] done sudo dhclient eno1 [01:33] the guide says rebot .. or logout/login [01:33] and now it's stuck at rtnetlink answers: file exists [01:33] virmaha: so "ip addr show" [01:34] TJ-: wohoo. It works [01:34] ping works too [01:34] virmaha: right, so now you can sort things out [01:34] TJ-: lol how? just reinstall xserver-xorg-core? [01:34] virmaha: which flavour of ubuntu was installed? Xubuntu? Lubuntu? [01:35] TJ-: normal ubuntu..canonical one [01:35] virmaha: hmmm OK. what does "lsb_release -r" report? [01:35] Release: 16.04 [01:36] virmaha: ok, that explains the lightdm! let's start with the top-level package in case you removed that. if this is missing it will automatically cause all the missing packages to be installed. "sudo apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop" [01:40] TJ-: alright. Done. Anything else? [01:40] virmaha: did that install a lot of packages? [01:40] yeah a lot [01:40] also, usr/bin/x synlinks to xorg [01:40] symlinks* [01:40] virmaha: then try starting again "sudo systemctl start lightdm" [01:41] virmaha: you should also check the network-manager has been re-installed [01:41] TJ-: wohoo I see the login screen [01:42] thanks a lot TJ- for saving the day!! [01:44] sorry i got disconnected. my 'upload' folder inside /var/www/html/upload is owned by "ubuntu www-data", now when i upload images from the web dashboard, the uploaded image is owned by "www-data www-data" thus it cannot display. How will i make all future files written in the folder be owned by "ubuntu www-data" ? [02:30] I have a script called "clip" that just has "xclip -o -selection primary" in it. Why it's so useful is that I can use anything in the clipboard on the CLI, like "wget $(clip)". I've used Linux for 18+ years, but just made this last month! [02:30] Cool or "derr" ? [03:19] Hey all :) I'm struggling between choosing manjaro and ubuntu... why do you prefer ubuntu? [03:20] because we are give great support [03:20] but polling is useless, dude [03:23] OerHeks: tell that to the programmers that still insist on using poll(). :( [03:24] pollings say pollings say nothing [03:25] Silenceimpaired: stability? [03:25] Manjaro is rolling release, so you're more likely to encounter issues. [03:42] hmm okay... what about Debian... do you feel Ubuntu is more stable than Debian? [03:46] does the encrypt installer option do 'LUKS on LVM' or 'LVM on LUKS'? [04:12] OerHeks try using a new profile and enabling drm in the new profiel [04:26] hi, do you know if there is so meta-package on Ubuntu to install wordpress? I've seen some tutorials out there, but most of them were pretty involving [05:24] Hello I have one system where I keep getting "Widevine Content Decryption Module provided y Google Inc. Will be installed shortly." when I enable drm content in firefox [05:25] does anyone have this same problem ? [05:26] jadax: i know nothing about wordpress, but `wordpress` is a package (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=wordpress) === Class7_ is now known as Class7 === TekMet_AFK is now known as TekMet === TekMet is now known as TekMet_AFK [06:28] is there any way to disable apparmor on a running system w/o rebooting with kernel param apparmor=0 ? === capella is now known as capella|away [07:06] I am trying to delete two files, but when I do rm filename it says there is no such file. I have tried in file manager and from command line. I think there is a funny character or something i the name, but I cannot see it. any advice please? [07:10] Ascavasaion: have you tried if you can tab complete your file name in the command line? [07:11] transfusion, I can... but still cannot delete it. [07:11] joel@mynasbox:/media/joel/My Book/TV Shows/Doogie Howser MD/D$ rm S2E09\ -\ Nautilus\ For\ Naught.avi [07:11] rm: cannot remove 'S2E09 - Nautilus For Naught.avi': No such file or directory [07:12] hmmm... what if you put quotes around the file name? [07:12] That is with tab completion [07:12] or escape the spaces [07:12] hmmm [07:12] something like rm S2E09\ -\ Nautilus\ For\ Naught.avi ? [07:13] transfusion, Nope [07:14] hmmm..... [07:14] Nor with quotes... [07:14] rm "S2E18 - My Two Dads.avi" [07:14] rm: cannot remove 'S2E18 - My Two Dads.avi': No such file or directory [07:14] transfusion: have you ls -a to see if the file was removed? [07:15] Files are still there... when I type ls -a it shows them all [07:19] are you the owner of the file? rm -f? or sudo rm -f [07:21] rm -f filename and sudo rm -f filename also do not work === lepusfelix is now known as luckybunny [07:30] are they open in a program? (not sure that matters) [07:35] TreeLad, Nope [07:38] Ascavasaion: I give up [07:38] TreeLad, Me as well, going to format it [07:41] researched google... do you own the folder it is in? [07:42] https://askubuntu.com/questions/240424/why-cant-i-delete-a-file-even-though-i-have-write-permissions [07:46] I formatted the external hard disk [07:46] solved [08:54] echo "hello" | mail -s 'hello no.fwd' root@localhost ; mail No mail for root wHYY? [08:55] hi all, I'm trying to recover a damaged HD which contained 4 reiserfs partitions. I don't know where to start. [08:58] reiserfs --check gives Bad root block 0. (--rebuild-tree did not complete) [09:02] that's the problem with using niche filesystems, hard to get help when they fail [09:02] eugenio: start with backing up the hdd using ddrescue and work on the image [09:03] EriC^^: I'm just working on an image, I have already did the ddrescue image [09:03] eugenio: i doubt anyone here can help much, try ##linux [09:03] or #reiserfs or so [09:25] dear tomreyn, sorry for late reply. thank you for your guidance, it worked like charm. now i dont need to be worry about root space, . i did your guidance for using gparted from live boot usb. now i had 74gb for linux .. http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qz4HwCp5qq/ [09:52] Hey guys, I'm prepare to install a portable OS. Should I install it on a SDXC card or USB3? which one would be faster? thanks [09:53] HaMsTeRs: usb always bottlenecks dedicated sticks [09:53] HaMsTeRs: its good for testing things, but best not for daily driver [09:54] HaMsTeRs: what will be your endgoal with the portable? [09:55] lotuspsychje, my notebook charger died. It's under warranty, so I'm awaiting Microsoft to send me a new charger. Now I have to the notebook provided by my company [09:56] So I do not want to backup my work and restore to my own notebook when the charger is arrive [09:56] HaMsTeRs: virtualbox with ubuntu, on work laptop? [09:56] They disabled VTx [09:56] and locked the BIOS [09:56] HaMsTeRs: use some kind of external hdd? [09:56] usb tend to die quickly when they run an OS [09:57] yes, this is what I'm thinking. To have a full install on either a USB stick or SDCard [09:57] oh [09:57] i mean, if you backup regularly and it's just temporary you should be good on a usb [09:58] ext hdd would be ideal though [09:58] I have a 2TB passbook hdd, but it's kind of heavy to carry it around [09:58] maybe an ssd? those things are pretty lightweight [09:58] so would USB3 stick faster than an SDXC card? [09:59] yea, but pretty expansive also [10:05] Hello. Do ubuntu automatically add an IPV6 link-local address to interfaces? [10:08] HaMsTeRs: seems that usb3 should be faster than sd card, sd card uses flash storage same as old fashioned usb [10:08] HaMsTeRs: https://www.quora.com/USB-vs-MicroSD-Which-is-faster-and-more-reliable [10:15] Thanks EriC^^ [10:15] no problem HaMsTeRs [10:16] any idea? (it's just looking for inet6 addresses in your ip a command output) [10:16] I have one ubuntu, on which it does not have any ipv6 link-local address, I just want to confirm it's the case on other machines. [10:20] This is sth I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RxhdBMgMpS/ [11:23] Hello [11:24] hi marlocov [11:25] I'm currently trying to install nvidia drivers for Ubuntu 18.04. I downloaded nvidia-390 and deativated Secure Boot uncommented Wayland and I still get a black screen. [11:26] In the settings detail is also shows me llvmpipe (LLVM 6.0, 256 bits) instead of Nvidia 1060 [11:27] hi, is there any written confirmation for the 18.04 support extension (to 10 years), yet? [11:29] tomreyn: yes, softpedia linux [11:30] tomreyn: https://news.softpedia.com/news/mark-shuttleworth-says-ubuntu-18-04-lts-will-be-supported-for-10-years-523864.shtml [11:30] lotuspsychje: thanks, i was rather thinking of anything canonical.com or ubuntu.com [11:31] media reports about what was announced at the openstack summit are all over the place. [11:31] tomreyn: didnt see on official yet myself [11:31] video is in that url ... [11:31] and he explains his beard :-D [11:32] Just wondering is this the right place for support ? === Richard is now known as Guest62405 [11:32] Hi guys. In 18.04 LTS we have php 7.2 and ppmyadmin: phpmyadmin/bionic,bionic,now 4:4.6.6-5, which does not work well with 7.2. Here is a issue, here is a fix: https://github.com/phpmyadmin/phpmyadmin/commit/4ef752efb37b2de3ba2349590201d55533ad074b. Fix was in january. Why do we still not have it updated? Where can we submit a bug report? I wish to keep using package for phpmyadmin, not to install it by hand. [11:32] marlocov: it is [11:32] issue: https://github.com/phpmyadmin/phpmyadmin/issues/13938 [11:32] (support only in fact) [11:32] Ah okay [11:33] After clean installing Ubuntu 18.04 it installed the driver corretly but it had an insane tearing. So I decided to update the Nvidia drivers but now my resolution is locked and only 1 of 3 monitors work [11:34] System Details also doesn't display my GPU is that normal ? [11:34] marlocov: how did you upgrade your driver? directly from nvidia? [11:35] HexaByte: phpmyadmin is in universe, so it's supported by the community [11:35] I first tried with the .run file. Then resinstall ubuntu and used the ppa [11:35] marlocov: if your card is supported, I'd use nvidia-410 from the ppa [11:36] I'm using GTX 1060 [11:36] then it is [11:36] jadax - a docker container would probably be easiest... [11:36] marlocov: as for the tearing, did you try with ForceFullCompositionPipeline ? [11:36] jadax: ^^^ [11:36] Not really I'm trying to first fix the resolution. [11:36] tomreyn: ok, how does one request a version bump, since the default php is 7.2 now [11:36] Should Secure Boot also be disable ? [11:37] is there a bug tracker? issue? how does this work in ubuntu? for packages in universe repo? [11:37] Because when I desactivated it and used the Nouveau driver it worked, but now it seems like nothing works anymore [11:37] HexaByte: but you could file a bug against the package (using "ubuntu-bug phpmyadmin") if you think there are reasons why the current version needs patches or a stable release upgrade (SRU) to a higher version. [11:38] marlocov: you need to have secure boot disabled either in bios or bootloader shim, or the nvidia module wont load as it isnt signed [11:38] HexaByte: bugs reported so far: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bugs [11:39] But when I boot with secure boot disabled I get a black screen with an underscore [11:39] tomreyn: tnx for info, seems like it was already reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/phpmyadmin/+bug/1767361 [11:39] Launchpad bug 1767361 in phpmyadmin (Ubuntu) "4.6.6deb5 not working on Bionic as PHP 7.2 is default" [Undecided,Confirmed] [11:40] oh well, will just create my own ppa or install by hand [11:40] universe should not accept brocken packages, if you ask me :-( [11:41] HexaByte: i think it wasn't clear that it was buggy at the time. [11:41] HexaByte: herE's how you can fix it in ubuntu proper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu [11:41] rather here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu#Contributing_to_the_Universe_Repository_.28MOTU.29 [11:43] marlocov: do you disable secure boot in bios or bootlader? [11:43] BIOS [11:44] Should I also disable it in the bootloader? [11:44] marlocov: do you use disk encryption? [11:44] hateball: no [11:45] I just just did a Clean Install of Ubuntu [11:45] marlocov: well typically all you should need to do is: have secure boot in bios, follow step 2 here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/SecureBoot/DKMS [11:46] marlocov: and after that use whatever latest driver from nvidia PPA [11:46] and uh... things should "just work" [11:46] hateball, how do you get the latest? [11:47] hateball, and you mean "have secure boot enabled in bios" ? [11:47] or disabled in bios ? [11:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1705369 [11:47] Launchpad bug 1705369 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu 17.10/18.04 boots to black screen when using Nvidia drivers (on a desktop with an Intel GPU)" [High,Confirmed] [11:48] marlocov: if you disable it in the shim like in the URL, you can have it enabled in BIOS if you like [11:49] marlocov: and latest short term driver is currently nvidia-driver-410 from the driver ppa [11:49] Okay thank you I'll try it out [11:51] odd, 18.04.1/nvidia 390 works fine here, with UEFI [11:52] wich version do you use OerHeks [11:52] standard gnome [11:53] !info nvidia-driver-390 bionic [11:53] nvidia-driver-390 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-390): NVIDIA driver metapackage. In component restricted, is optional. Version 390.77-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 369 kB, installed size 1071 kB [11:53] .77? [11:53] jups [11:56] 'Morning all [11:58] hi, I've used 'disks' to restore the ubuntu 18.04.1 image to a USB drive (I tried dd before that) and each time when I try to boot from the USB, the boot-up hangs. Is there any way to turn off the splash screen and see what's hanging? I don't have internet access during boot up so I can't send any pastebinit's... not sure what to do. This has never happened before [11:58] Good afternoon! [12:00] bumblefuzz: what doy ou mean by "the ubuntu 18.04.1 image"? [12:00] bumblefuzz: if using grub, you could hit (edit) & remove 'quiet splash' from your linux (kernel) line .. I'd also likely add a '1' & confirm UID's are okay [12:01] hi, is there an raspberry pi, retropie, kodi channel? [12:01] !alis [12:01] Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [12:01] !alis | piensken [12:01] piensken: please see above [12:02] tomreyn: https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads [12:02] guiver_d: what's that second part? adding a 1 for what? [12:04] bumblefuzz: 1 goes to single user mode (maintenance/repair..) allowing better viewing of things if wrong.. but I assumed you were trying to 'restore' & dd' backup where i'm now thinking you meant an ISO & I'd not use a 1/single for that.. [12:04] I do mean ISO [12:04] restore is just what I used to ensure I'd written the image to disk [12:05] I tried dd first and bott hung [12:05] boot* [12:05] bumblefuzz: so you used some version of 'gnome disks' from some OS to write one of the many ISO files listed at https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads to an usb attached storage, tried to boot off it and it failed? [12:06] tomreyn: at first, I used dd on the cline to write to disk and that boot failed... but yes, what you've written there is what I tried second... and that boot also failed [12:06] bumblefuzz: what's "cline"? [12:07] bumblefuzz: did you verify the download/ISO was valid before you wrote it? [12:07] (Sorry Tom - I'll back off) [12:07] guiver_d: yes [12:08] tomreyn: command line [12:08] bumblefuzz: search for "create usb" at https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/ [12:08] guiver_d: i dont mind [12:10] bumblefuzz: i've never tried the approahc you took and do not know whether it would work. those tutorials provide recommendations on how to create an ubuntu installer on usb attached storages [12:10] I'll try yours [12:12] !usb | bumblefuzz: if you need more options [12:12] bumblefuzz: if you need more options: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [12:15] I am using ubuntu mate 18.04 the pointer arrow appears large over the desktop but not over opened applications such as chrome or eclipse. Any suggestion on how to resolve? [12:15] the startup disk app stalled [12:16] bumblefuzz: is this response to my issue? [12:17] is it hard to transform ubuntu to a good looking and working os? [12:17] onio: no [12:17] piensken, it is already [12:17] bumblefuzz: alright :) [12:18] OerHeks: ja? :p not so nice looking :p [12:18] I need to install gnome or so? [12:19] piensken, apply a theme or iconpack, whatever makes your eyes happy [12:22] onio: do you have a high resolution display? dpi? [12:22] onio: screenshots of the large pointer arror and not large one? [12:23] tarzeau: yes [12:23] I recently bought a 4K display [12:24] onio: do you know if the appliations you run are qt or gtk, and their versions? [12:25] unfortunately on linux, it's a big mess, there's no uniform cursor handling, depending on the ui libraries everyont tries to solve it somehow. and there's no one single setting to make it all right [12:25] it even gets worse with multiple displays, multiple dpis [12:25] tarzeau: not sure, at the moment when I move cursor over pidgin it shows as normal but when move to the destop it get large again [12:25] the desktop being gnome-shell ? [12:26] Yes, I should believe so. I am running Ubuntu Mate 18.04 [12:26] I just found this page https://superuser.com/questions/768830/mouse-cursor-scaling-issues-in-xubuntu-14-04-with-xfce-4-10 [12:36] piensken: ubuntu comes with gnome by default. there are other ubuntu flavours which come with different desktop environments. [12:40] onio: that link is exactly the problem description! [12:40] onio: and afaik there's no solution :) [12:41] I have just tried following but fontconfig-infinality does not work [12:43] lotus|NUC: Thanks for your hints on upgrading from Ubuntu 12.04 yesterday. The machine is now up and running with Ubuntu 18.04. It survived the 3 do-release-upgrade runs I did on it :) [12:44] onio: i think mate is still based on gnome 2, isnt it? in this case maybe you should give the default ubuntu a try, which comes with gnome 3 [12:44] just download the live / installer iso, boot off it and see whether it works any better [12:45] Cybertinus: congratulations! [12:45] interesting scaling answer, not sure it applies to gtk3 too.. https://askubuntu.com/a/555812 [12:45] thnx mgedmin [12:45] tomreyn: thanks I would probably give a try [12:49] onio: see also https://wiki.gnome.org/HowDoI/HiDpi + https://wiki.gnome.org/HowDoI/HiDpi [13:07] Does anyone know if there's a known issue upgrading from Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS to latest release? Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS is still on the supprted list but apt-get upgrade, apt-get update and do-release-upgrade all fail, reporting missing items on the servers. [13:07] I've tried changing the server settings in /etc/apt/sources.list to various servers that have been suggested in discussion groups, but without any success. [13:07] Manually looking at these servers shows that they really don't have the versions that my system is looking for. [13:09] gvm: do yu have the 'pastebinit' command installed? run: which pastbeinit [13:09] gvm: do yu have the 'pastebinit' command installed? run: which pastbinit [13:09] gvm: do yu have the 'pastebinit' command installed? run: which pastebinit [13:09] sorry, typos :-( [13:10] gvm, you can't upgrade 14.04 to the ' latest release ' which is 18.04 ; you first need 16.04 [13:10] did you install sudo apt-get install update-manager-core, and edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set: Prompt=lts ?? https://websiteforstudents.com/upgrade-ubuntu-16-04-lts-to-ubuntu-18-04-lts-beta-server/ [13:10] gvm: do you have any PPAs or other 3rd-party sources enabled? [13:10] tomreyn: No - I don't have pastebinit [13:11] gvm, sudo apt install pastebinit [13:12] gvm: no, scratch the PPA question; do-release-upgrade disables PPAs -- a better question is which Ubuntu mirror is in your /etc/apt/sources.list? [13:12] ioria: I did look for documentation on this, but couldn't find any way to specify an upgrade to from 14.04 to 16.04 first. [13:13] mgedmin, disable yes, override not [13:13] do-release-upgrade will upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 [13:14] OerHeks: I'll give that a try. This is on a virtual machine so I can revert to snapshot if it fails. [13:14] gvm: please run this to provide us some basic information on your system and its state: cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline > /tmp/report; lsb_release -ds >> /tmp/report; sudo apt-get update >> /tmp/report 2>&1; sudo apt -f install >> /tmp/report 2>&1; apt-cache policy >> /tmp/report 2>&1; cat /tmp/report | nc nc termbin.com 9999 [13:14] gvm, you don't specify an upgrade, the upgrade to 16.04 is automatic [13:15] gvm: please remove one 'nc ' off the end of the above series of commands [13:19] mgedmin: I've tried updating the /etc/apt/sources.list with various suggestions from discussion groups - was gb.archive.ubuntu.com originally. I've tried dropping the "gb" and I've tried old-releases.ubuntu.com. There are also entries for security.ubuntu.com which seems to have most of the problems. [13:19] any proxies in use? [13:21] gvm: you don't need to use old-releases.ubuntu.com, only EOL releases are stored there (so 12.04 and older, if you only look at LTS releases) [13:21] gvm: if you could run the abover series of commands, non of whhc changes your system (other than creating temporary file and updating apt's cache), and returned the url where it was posted to, we could probably tell what's happening. [13:21] 14.04 is available on the normal mirrors still [13:21] OerHeks: I get "update-manager-core is already the newest version." and /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades already has Prompt=lts [13:21] Before I reinvent hot water. I need mod_cloudflare but I see CF is not building .debs for 18.04 LTS. Is there a PPA or repo I could fint it in, or should I build from source myself? [13:22] tomreyn: Will do - just got a lot of responses simultaneously so tried the fastest first. [13:23] gvm: cool, sorry about the many responses, maybe we should just provide one or two. ;-) [13:23]