[00:01] <kc2bez> Am I supposed to do a dch -r too?
 wxl: your phab documentation is rough... like *real* rough.  Also it still doesn't like my SSH keys for cloning😐
[00:04] <wxl> @teward001 then go fix them. also your keys are ridiculous and you know it
 no you mean the nasty RSA keys
 i have an ecdsa key that is up there too :P
 *goes in with godmode to figure out what was going on*
[00:05] <wxl> kc2bez: yep
[00:06] <wxl> @teward001 if you can't figure it out i can show you where phab's bug tracker is but you're the only one that's had a problem with it
[00:06] <wxl> guiverc: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/398/history
[00:08] <guiverc> thanks wxl :)
 wxl: actually it turns out the issue isn't actually with phab LOL
 well not entirely
[00:09] <wxl> pebkac i'm sure
 no actually a server kex problem
 *fixed with all of 30 seconds of effort*
[00:14] <kc2bez> do I need to specify a path?  E: Unable to find a source package for libfm-qt
[00:14] <kc2bez> from apt update apt build-dep ^
[00:16] <wxl> libfm-qt5
[00:17] <kc2bez> no joy
[00:18] <teward> do you have the source package lines enabled on your computer?
[00:18] <teward> if you don't have the deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list uncommented it won't find source packages
[00:18] <teward> (I ran into this yesterday resetting up my build env here)
[00:18] <kc2bez> *looking*
[00:19] <teward> apt-cache showsrc libfm-qt
[00:19] <teward> if it doesn't show anything likely you don't have src packages enabled
[00:19] <teward> wxl: parent src package for libfm-qt5 is libfm-qt
[00:19] <teward> not sure build-dep would work if you put libfm-qt5 in there
[00:19] <wxl> me either but i was guessing
[00:27] <kc2bez> New issue:    builddeps:libfm-qt : Depends: qtbase5-private-dev but it is not going to be installed
 and `sudo apt install qtbase5-private-dev` says what?
[00:27] <wxl> oh sigh early development cycle bs i'm sure
[00:27] <wxl> qt transition
 ^ this most likely
 Welcome to DEVELOPMENT 101
 instant painfulness :P
[00:34] <kc2bez> Gak! dep hell! qtbase5-private-dev : Depends: libinput-dev  Do I need to do an apt upgrade ?
[00:34] <kc2bez> to disco
[00:35] <wxl> you're not on disco
[00:35] <wxl> that's a problem
[00:35] <wxl> i'll add that in :(
[00:35] <kc2bez> Sorry didn't know. :(
[00:36] <kc2bez> What will I break?
[00:36] <wxl> well it won't ever build right
[00:36] <wxl> not to mention dependency issues
[00:37] <wxl> you could upgrade to disco but it would probably be best just to make  aVM
[00:37] <kc2bez> I get that now. I have a VM, should've done it there. PEBKAC
[00:38] <wxl> no i should have had that in the tutorial
[00:40] <kc2bez> For fear of messing up my main box, I am going to put my sources back and start over in my VM.
[00:40] <wxl> good idea
[01:14] <wxl> @HMollerCl this one looks like it would be up your alley https://bugs.launchpad.net/lubuntu-tweaks/+bug/1804552
[02:23] <kc2bez> wxl I started over. Here is my latest issue http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5qsr5ZBR8y/
[02:23] <kc2bez> I think the reason I didn't get an error before was that my patch was empty.
 @tsimonq2 [OOH my favorite day!], How about Christmas?
 (Sticker, 338x512) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/oAyHb0OZ/file_4900.png
 @fwapy [How about Christmas?], My favorite Ubuntu day (besides release day ofc)
 @tsimonq2 [My favorite Ubuntu day (besides release day ofc)], both are lies.
 :P
 *knows the truth*
 @teward001 [both are lies.], Oh? :P
[02:51] <teward> your favorite Ubuntu day is when you get new powers you didn't have before.  *shot*
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/ZAEAq91y/file_4815.png
 Although I rarely have those days anymore. :P
 (Sticker, 338x512) https://telegram.lubuntu.me/YdamcBGm/file_4900.png
[03:30] <wxl> kc2bez: why are you trying to use reportbug?
[03:30] <wxl> oh nevermind
[03:30] <wxl> wth
[03:31] <wxl> so this is weird because you didn't have this problem before
[03:31] <wxl> you must have not followed the same procedure
[03:31] <kc2bez> I think I made an empty patch before.
[03:31] <wxl> it will leave .rej files explaining where the problem is
[03:31] <wxl> sometimes patches don't apply cleanly
[03:31] <kc2bez> nothing in it so no error
[03:32] <wxl> send the content of the patch
[03:32] <kc2bez> wait .rej file where is that?
[03:33] <wxl> btw be patient with the process. this stuff can take a little fiddling to get used to sometimes. after you've cut your teeth and struggled with a couple they become easy.
[03:33] <wxl> it's where the file it's trying to patch is at
[03:33] <wxl> so if you were trying to patch README, then you'd have a README.rej
[03:33] <kc2bez> I am ok, I just don't want to mess y'all up.
[03:34] <kc2bez> standby let me look for that
[03:34] <wxl> *WE* want you to learn. we have time to work this out, so no big deal
[03:41] <kc2bez> hmm I didn't find the .rej file 
[03:41] <kc2bez> You still want the paste of the patch?
[03:53] <wxl> yeah
[03:55] <kc2bez> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/t4vVrBkKBs/
 I think you did the git diff in the wrong way. Change the hashes of the commits so that the new lines are added and not removed.
 Welcome!
 Instead of `git diff aabbcc eeff11` do `git diff eeff11 aabbcc` and you should get pretty the same patch as the upstream commit
 Archie Socialny mentioned in the Ubuntu Podcast channel that he has some questions about Russian support in Cala
 @aptghetto [Instead of `git diff aabbcc eeff11` do `git diff eeff11 aabbcc` and you should g …], Right :)
 I think
[04:34] <kc2bez> Yes, thanks @aptghetto. Better now.
 welcome
 @Archie Socialny [Basically, the English word "about" is "o" in Russian. So at the first screen of …], Thanks!
 I'm off for the night, cya everyone!
[04:56] <kc2bez> Should I have done a commit before arc diff?
[05:12] <kc2bez> wxl you still around?
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Should I have done a commit before arc diff?], I don't think so
[05:22] <kc2bez> arc diff is telling me I have uncommitted changes, do I want to create a commit with these changes?
[05:26] <kc2bez> yay or nay on that?
[05:43] <lynorian> kc2bez: I know that feeling
[05:43] <lynorian> kc2bez: run git status to see what it is
[05:43] <lynorian> is it something like a temporary file from vim or something
[05:44] <kc2bez> It gave me a list.
[05:44] <kc2bez> Applying a patch to libfm
[05:45] <kc2bez> Was just following the guide and wanted to make sure I didn't miss something.
[05:46] <lynorian> I don't do packaging but arc wants all things commited before you apply arc diff
 You should add/stage only files in debian/ and delete the rest. I am not sure, but I think you must create a commit and then arc diff it. Have a look at the tutorial
 (Photo, 838x602) https://i.imgur.com/pVea3c3.jpg I think I followed it right.?
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging-tutorial/
 Happy turkey day from NZ
 @fatfreddie [/me followed the link from that ubuntu podcast chatterbox place], Welcome!
[18:31] <wxl[m]> Welcome @smkellat (! Didn't know you were a Lubuntu user!) and @pixtolero
[18:54] <wxl> i've got more BogoMIPS :)
[18:54] <wxl> oops ECAHN
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Welcome @smkellat (! Didn't know you were a Lubuntu user!) and @pixtole …], They're coming from Ubuntu Podcast Chatter :)
 @TheWendyPower look at this. https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/572
[19:49] <wxl> @kc2bez you figure it out?
[19:50] <kc2bez> It is still sitting  there.
[19:50] <kc2bez> not sure if you saw my screenshot or not
[19:50] <wxl> oh missed it. please resend
 (Photo, 838x602) https://i.imgur.com/DeGBtGm.jpg
[19:51] <wxl> oh
[19:51] <wxl> yeah somehting's not right there
[19:51] <wxl> did you do the rm step?
[19:52] <kc2bez> Yeah, I thought so
[19:53] <kc2bez> should be in the screen 
[19:53] <wxl> well, it didn't work XD
[19:53] <wxl> or
[19:53] <wxl> wait
[19:53] <wxl> huh
[19:53]  * wxl is confused
[19:53] <wxl> i don't understand why the source is in debian
[19:54] <wxl> again, the way that tutorial is written is very specific about locations
[19:54] <wxl> rm all of debian/libfm-qt5 and do over
[19:58] <kc2bez> do over starting where?
[19:58] <wxl> the arc diff
 @tsimonq2 [They're coming from Ubuntu Podcast Chatter :)], That and I have family members to support that use Other Than Xubuntu...
 @smkellat [That and I have family members to support that use Other Than Xubuntu...], Ah :)
 Well welcome regardless
 (Photo, 732x253) https://i.imgur.com/39guIAL.jpg wxl Better?
[20:02] <wxl> YES
[20:03] <wxl> that's EXACTLY what you want
[20:03] <wxl> in general that is what you should expect to see with these sorts of things.. you'll be adding a patch, which means you'll be changing the series file... and you'll always have a changelog update
[20:03] <wxl> good work!
[20:05] <kc2bez> so yes here and what do I need in the message?
[20:07] <wxl> something sensible for the commit message
[20:07] <wxl> you can be more verbose with the diff explanation, perhaps referencing this task (just use T### and the remarkup will link it) and make sure to include tsimonq2 and i as reviewers
[20:13] <kc2bez> It should be up. https://phab.lubuntu.me/D45
[20:14] <wxl> just to save you typing next time you can just type T170 .. it will auto link it 
[20:14] <kc2bez> Gotcha, thanks.
[20:15] <wxl> and in this case it may have been good to say that this is part one of two .. the test plan could then say "see second fix for pcmanfm-qt" or something of the sort
[20:16] <kc2bez> Understood. Sorry about that.
[20:17] <wxl> not a problem at all
[20:17] <wxl> you actually did pretty darn good for the first time on your own
[20:17] <wxl> you should give yourself several pats on the back
[20:17] <kc2bez> I had a lot of help from my friends.
[20:21] <wxl> replied
 @wxl [<wxl> replied], That's a meh nitpick
[20:25] <wxl> totally
[20:27] <wxl> but since he did so good his first time, he'll now do perfect from here on out XD
[20:27] <kc2bez> Fair, but I want to do it right. Where do I need to go to fix that?
[20:27] <wxl> so you still have your repo?
[20:27] <kc2bez> I haven't wiped it yet.
[20:28] <wxl> so get back in there, and in the folder containing debian, type `dch -r` and change "UNRELEASED" to "DINGO"
[20:28] <wxl> NO
[20:28] <wxl> "dingo"
[20:29] <wxl> :)
[20:29] <wxl> then `arc diff`
[20:29] <kc2bez> disco?
[20:29] <wxl> yeah jeez
[20:29] <wxl> i keep struggling with this codename
[20:30] <kc2bez> I had disco in there
[20:30] <wxl> well that's not what showed in arc diff
[20:31] <wxl> cat debian/changelog and be sure
[20:35] <kc2bez> Weird, I don't know what went wrong.
[20:36] <wxl> i've seen before that when dch passes control to vim, all the changes it makes aren't considered changes by vim and so sometimes it will just quit without saving those changes.
[20:37] <kc2bez> Where do I go from here?
[20:38] <wxl> is it fixed in the actual file now?
[20:40] <kc2bez> I manually edited it, yes.
[20:40] <wxl> then just arc diff
[20:43] <wxl> congrats!
[20:43] <wxl> now work on the other part :)
[20:43] <kc2bez> Thanks, I will give it a go.
[20:55] <wxl> is the bot dead?
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 Better
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[21:07] <wxl> oh boy
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[21:08] <lynorian> welcome back lugito
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[21:08] <wxl> @teward001 we got some lightweight nagios sort of thing we could use to keep tract of whether or not the bot has pooped out?
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 lightweight? probably not
 but I could write a script
 it would operate like SmokeDetector on SE does
 but I will think a while Turkey time
[21:22] <kc2bez> Bugger. This one doesn't want to go wxl  http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/M9dR2m6dhQ/
[21:23] <wxl> look for the rejects file kc2bez 
[21:29] <kc2bez> I don't know where I am going wron, I can't find that. 
[21:29] <wxl> it should be in pcmanfm
[21:29] <wxl> it is most likely settings.cpp.rej
 wxl send me details about what we need to track on the bot I will see what I can come up with tomorrow
[21:34] <wxl> @tsimonq2: how might we tell the bot is dead?
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: how might we tell the bot is dead?], Ask docEbrown
[21:34] <kc2bez> wxl https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6HQcw69xhz/
[21:38] <wxl> i have never seen a situation where it doesn't leave the .rej file SOMEWHERE
[21:38] <wxl> try something like `find . -type f -iname *.rej`
[21:38] <wxl> it's also possible it actually left it in settings.cpp, so you might want to see if there are comments in there
[21:38] <wxl> if you don't find the reject file, pastebin that up
[21:44] <kc2bez> I have tried find and locate, no go. You want the whole settings.cpp file?
[21:51] <hmollercl> here it works?
 guys, do you know where bugs regarding panel widgets should be filed?
 @hmollercl [<hmollercl> here it works?], Let me rephrase, find and locate work but they don't show a reject file.
 @kc2bez [Let me rephrase, find and locate work but they don't show a reject file.], sorry, I was test8ing some things on irc
 Ah, gotcha.
[21:58] <hmollercl> lynorian you might want to hide your name in the quassel screenshot
[21:58] <hmollercl> also in the URL Quasel is only with one "s"
[21:58] <hmollercl> https://manual.lubuntu.me/2/2.1/2.1.3/Quasel_IRC.html
[21:59] <lynorian> hmollercl: it is listed in the authors
 @socialarchie [guys, do you know where bugs regarding panel widgets should be filed?], lxqt-panel
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/bugs/
[22:02] <lynorian> hmollercl: thanks for spotting that typo
 @lynorian [<lynorian> hmollercl: it is listed in the authors], jajaja, some privacy paranoid I tend to have.
 @tsimonq2 [lxqt-panel], I actually tracked it down to the World Clock widget, but thanks for the link
 @socialarchie [I actually tracked it down to the World Clock widget, but thanks for the link], Right, it's the same package. :)
[22:24] <docEbrown> happy thanksgiving peeps!
[22:45] <xdruppi> what's thanksgiving
 excuse to have another big christmas dinner and holiday, without admitting to that
 @acheronuk [excuse to have another big christmas dinner and holiday, without admitting to th …], This
 But also celebrating our Pilgrims escaping the (then corrupt) King of England
 Turkey overdose rounds 1
[22:53] <xdruppi> why would anybody want another christmas day?
[22:53] <xdruppi> ok this is off-topic i'll stop
 @tsimonq2 [But also celebrating our Pilgrims escaping the (then corrupt) King of England], ^
 @xdruppi [<xdruppi> why would anybody want another christmas day?], over-eating and arguing with family is fun for americans
 this is amazing! While writing the bug report, I've actually managed to find a workaround that also points (at least seems so) to the root cause of the problem
 @xdruppi [<xdruppi> ok this is off-topic i'll stop], ditto. appologies 😊