[09:22] <Kilos> morning all
[12:42] <chesedo> Hi akk
[12:42] <chesedo> *all
[12:43] <pavlushka> hello chesedo 
[12:43] <chesedo> how are you pavlushka?
[12:44] <pavlushka> chesedo: I am cold, and beside my desktop, my nose is also running
[12:45] <chesedo> put a leash on it :P
[12:46] <chesedo> QA kettle on
[12:46] <QA> chesedo: Excuse me?
[12:47] <chesedo> QA coffee on
[12:47]  * QA washes some mugs
[12:47] <pavlushka> QA: coffee on
[12:47] <QA> pavlushka: There's already a pot on. If you ask nicely, maybe you can have a cup
[12:47] <chesedo> QA tea for me though
[12:47] <QA> chesedo: Excuse me?
[12:47] <pavlushka> QA: kettle please
[12:47] <QA> pavlushka: Sorry...
[12:47] <pavlushka> lol
[12:47] <chesedo> QA tea please
[12:47] <QA> Bring your cup with tea bag already in and you can share the boiling water chesedo
[12:47] <pavlushka> QA coffee please
[12:47] <QA> pavlushka: Sure
[12:48] <pavlushka> and?
[12:50] <chesedo> ?
[12:51] <QA> Coffee's ready for chesedo and pavlushka!
[12:51] <pavlushka> QA ty
[12:51] <QA> Only a pleasure pavlushka
[12:51] <chesedo> QA I wanted tea :(
[12:51] <QA> chesedo: Huh?
[12:51] <chesedo> never mind
[12:51] <chesedo> QA: thank you
[12:51] <QA> chesedo: my pleasure
[12:52] <pavlushka> chesedo: that what I was waiting for to see :p
[12:52] <pavlushka> that's
[12:52] <chesedo> oh
[12:54]  * pavlushka sipping his mug of tea
[12:55]  * chesedo imagines sipping his cyber coffee
[12:55] <pavlushka> lol
[12:56] <pavlushka> chesedo: careful, don't burn your tongue :p
[12:56] <chesedo> ok
[12:56] <chesedo> lol
[12:57]  * pavlushka compiling sagemath-8.4 for RPI3B since yesterday
[12:59] <chesedo> sounds like horror
[12:59] <pavlushka> now compiling the documentation part, hoping to be complete successfully
[12:59] <pavlushka> chesedo: yeah, it is
[13:00] <pavlushka> chesedo: it made me very very curious about cross-compiling
[13:01] <pavlushka> considering the time it takes on the ARM to build itself
[15:12] <Kilos> lol
[15:13] <Kilos> QA  tea please
[15:13] <QA> Bring your cup with tea bag already in and you can share the boiling water Kilos
[15:13] <Kilos> hi guys
[15:13] <pavlushka> QA tea please
[15:13] <QA> Bring your cup with tea bag already in and you can share the boiling water pavlushka
[15:14] <Kilos> i had a major problem today
[15:15] <pavlushka> Kilos: you had, so you solved it by now!
[15:15] <Kilos> made that usb boot disk with 18.04.1 pavlushka   but it wont boot on a HP pavilion
[15:15] <Kilos> its a bug in the grub file
[15:15] <pavlushka> so?
[15:15] <Kilos> i even went to #ubuntu and asked for help 
[15:16] <pavlushka> and then
[15:16] <Kilos> you have to edit /etc/default/grub but then reboot before it works
[15:16] <Kilos> and it goes backto starting only to boot
[15:17] <pavlushka> oo
[15:17] <Kilos> then one guy told me to boot with space bar held down and do the edit
[15:17] <Kilos> i didnt try that, my son was going to so i slept all afternoon
[15:18] <pavlushka> Kilos: ha ha ha, that's a nice fix
[15:18] <Kilos> i will know the outcome tomrrow
[15:18] <Kilos> lol
[15:19] <Kilos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1521173
[15:19] <Kilos> that is te bug
[15:19] <Kilos> the trick is to fix it in the boot stick
[15:20] <Kilos> i need to find a way to make an install stick from my laptops system
[15:20] <Kilos> is there no fork to systemback yet
[15:22] <pavlushka> Kilos: what was the change/trick?
[15:26] <Kilos> to edit the boot stick
[15:27] <pavlushka> Kilos: setting boot/grub parameter by adding pci=nomsi, pci=noaer?
[15:27] <Kilos> but now they found if they leave the laptop on for a while and then boot from it it works
[15:27] <Kilos> yes
[15:27] <Kilos> those commands
[15:28] <Kilos> its easy to do in a working system but can you do it in the install media
[15:28] <Kilos> HP pavilion is the problem laptop
[15:29] <Kilos> if  it cannot be done i will install 18.04 on the stick and she can use it like that
[15:29] <Kilos> another one thats scared of losing their windows lol
[15:30] <Kilos> i need coffeeeeee
[15:30] <pavlushka> Kilos: for install media you have to make the edit treating the USB just an USB, might need root privilege to edit the /boot files
[15:36] <pavlushka> Kilos: or you can apply the change and then update grub and then copy the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file to somewhere else from the live env
[15:38] <pavlushka> Kilos: and use it as JUST USB and replace the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file with that preserved one
[15:41] <Kilos> hmm...
[15:41] <Kilos> i will experiment
[15:42] <Kilos> but the lady has her windows to keep her busy so no rush
[15:44] <Kilos> she is busy learning time and attendance with ian
[15:45] <Kilos> all that software is on windows so no change soon
[16:57] <Kilos> wb pavlushka  
[16:57] <pavlushka> ty Kilos :)
[16:58] <Kilos> after adding that nomsi and noar i cant do update-grub
[16:58] <Kilos> it sayd no path to  canonical /cow
[16:58] <Kilos> lol
[16:59] <pavlushka> Kilos: in the live env?
[16:59] <Kilos> and there is no grub.cfg file yet
[16:59] <Kilos> yes on the flash drive
[16:59] <Kilos> seems the .cfg get made when you install 
[17:00] <Kilos> dont worry lad, i will look more tomorrow
[17:01] <Kilos> all this thinking will make me want to sleep again
[17:02] <pavlushka> Kilos: I am not experienced with this setup, so #ubuntu may be better :)
[17:02] <pavlushka> meaning 18.04 live env
[17:03] <Kilos> well so far they got me to edit grub but you cant run update-grub so will chat to them tomorrow. ty for your help
[17:03]  * pavlushka still using 16.04 live
[17:03] <Kilos> what is env
[17:03] <pavlushka> Kilos: environment
[17:03] <Kilos> oh
[17:04] <Kilos> if i wait they will most likely put the bug fix in 18.04.2
[17:05] <pavlushka> Kilos: that would be a long wait
[17:05] <Kilos> there must be mmillions of HP pavilions out there
[17:05] <Kilos> lol
[17:05] <Kilos> i will install 18.04 onto a flash drive for her
[17:05] <pavlushka> Kilos: its a bug from 16.04, that you are experiencing still
[17:06] <Kilos> then its installed and updated upgraded
[17:06] <Kilos> yes
[17:07] <Kilos> and i can edit and run update-grub
[17:07] <pavlushka> Kilos: which one is not booting, the laptop or the USB?
[17:08] <pavlushka> I meant the system of the laptop or the system of the usb on that laptop
[17:08] <Kilos> the usb man, the install media
[17:09] <Kilos> dont worry lad
[17:09] <pavlushka> Kilos: so when you put the usb on that laptop, it's not booting, otherwise the usb is booting on other machines?
[17:09] <Kilos> find someone to fork systemback lol
[17:09] <Kilos> yes works fine on 2 other laptops
[17:10] <pavlushka> ok
[17:10] <Kilos> just the HP lappy gives probs
[17:11] <Kilos> did you work hard today?
[17:12] <pavlushka> Kilos: so you are trying to fix the usb on the machines where it is working?
[17:12] <Kilos> yes
[17:12] <Kilos> she has already left with her one
[17:12] <Kilos> i go pee quick
[17:13] <pavlushka> ha ha ha
[17:14] <Kilos> lol prostate probs are a nuisance
[17:14] <Kilos> cant miss a pee time