[09:22] morning all [12:42] Hi akk [12:42] *all [12:43] hello chesedo [12:43] how are you pavlushka? [12:44] chesedo: I am cold, and beside my desktop, my nose is also running [12:45] put a leash on it :P [12:46] QA kettle on [12:46] chesedo: Excuse me? [12:47] QA coffee on [12:47] * QA washes some mugs [12:47] QA: coffee on [12:47] pavlushka: There's already a pot on. If you ask nicely, maybe you can have a cup [12:47] QA tea for me though [12:47] chesedo: Excuse me? [12:47] QA: kettle please [12:47] pavlushka: Sorry... [12:47] lol [12:47] QA tea please [12:47] Bring your cup with tea bag already in and you can share the boiling water chesedo [12:47] QA coffee please [12:47] pavlushka: Sure [12:48] and? [12:50] ? [12:51] Coffee's ready for chesedo and pavlushka! [12:51] QA ty [12:51] Only a pleasure pavlushka [12:51] QA I wanted tea :( [12:51] chesedo: Huh? [12:51] never mind [12:51] QA: thank you [12:51] chesedo: my pleasure [12:52] chesedo: that what I was waiting for to see :p [12:52] that's [12:52] oh [12:54] * pavlushka sipping his mug of tea [12:55] * chesedo imagines sipping his cyber coffee [12:55] lol [12:56] chesedo: careful, don't burn your tongue :p [12:56] ok [12:56] lol [12:57] * pavlushka compiling sagemath-8.4 for RPI3B since yesterday [12:59] sounds like horror [12:59] now compiling the documentation part, hoping to be complete successfully [12:59] chesedo: yeah, it is [13:00] chesedo: it made me very very curious about cross-compiling [13:01] considering the time it takes on the ARM to build itself [15:12] lol [15:13] QA tea please [15:13] Bring your cup with tea bag already in and you can share the boiling water Kilos [15:13] hi guys [15:13] QA tea please [15:13] Bring your cup with tea bag already in and you can share the boiling water pavlushka [15:14] i had a major problem today [15:15] Kilos: you had, so you solved it by now! [15:15] made that usb boot disk with 18.04.1 pavlushka but it wont boot on a HP pavilion [15:15] its a bug in the grub file [15:15] so? [15:15] i even went to #ubuntu and asked for help [15:16] and then [15:16] you have to edit /etc/default/grub but then reboot before it works [15:16] and it goes backto starting only to boot [15:17] oo [15:17] then one guy told me to boot with space bar held down and do the edit [15:17] i didnt try that, my son was going to so i slept all afternoon [15:18] Kilos: ha ha ha, that's a nice fix [15:18] i will know the outcome tomrrow [15:18] lol [15:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1521173 [15:19] that is te bug [15:19] the trick is to fix it in the boot stick [15:20] i need to find a way to make an install stick from my laptops system [15:20] is there no fork to systemback yet [15:22] Kilos: what was the change/trick? [15:26] to edit the boot stick [15:27] Kilos: setting boot/grub parameter by adding pci=nomsi, pci=noaer? [15:27] but now they found if they leave the laptop on for a while and then boot from it it works [15:27] yes [15:27] those commands [15:28] its easy to do in a working system but can you do it in the install media [15:28] HP pavilion is the problem laptop [15:29] if it cannot be done i will install 18.04 on the stick and she can use it like that [15:29] another one thats scared of losing their windows lol [15:30] i need coffeeeeee [15:30] Kilos: for install media you have to make the edit treating the USB just an USB, might need root privilege to edit the /boot files [15:36] Kilos: or you can apply the change and then update grub and then copy the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file to somewhere else from the live env [15:38] Kilos: and use it as JUST USB and replace the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file with that preserved one [15:41] hmm... [15:41] i will experiment [15:42] but the lady has her windows to keep her busy so no rush [15:44] she is busy learning time and attendance with ian [15:45] all that software is on windows so no change soon [16:57] wb pavlushka [16:57] ty Kilos :) [16:58] after adding that nomsi and noar i cant do update-grub [16:58] it sayd no path to canonical /cow [16:58] lol [16:59] Kilos: in the live env? [16:59] and there is no grub.cfg file yet [16:59] yes on the flash drive [16:59] seems the .cfg get made when you install [17:00] dont worry lad, i will look more tomorrow [17:01] all this thinking will make me want to sleep again [17:02] Kilos: I am not experienced with this setup, so #ubuntu may be better :) [17:02] meaning 18.04 live env [17:03] well so far they got me to edit grub but you cant run update-grub so will chat to them tomorrow. ty for your help [17:03] * pavlushka still using 16.04 live [17:03] what is env [17:03] Kilos: environment [17:03] oh [17:04] if i wait they will most likely put the bug fix in 18.04.2 [17:05] Kilos: that would be a long wait [17:05] there must be mmillions of HP pavilions out there [17:05] lol [17:05] i will install 18.04 onto a flash drive for her [17:05] Kilos: its a bug from 16.04, that you are experiencing still [17:06] then its installed and updated upgraded [17:06] yes [17:07] and i can edit and run update-grub [17:07] Kilos: which one is not booting, the laptop or the USB? [17:08] I meant the system of the laptop or the system of the usb on that laptop [17:08] the usb man, the install media [17:09] dont worry lad [17:09] Kilos: so when you put the usb on that laptop, it's not booting, otherwise the usb is booting on other machines? [17:09] find someone to fork systemback lol [17:09] yes works fine on 2 other laptops [17:10] ok [17:10] just the HP lappy gives probs [17:11] did you work hard today? [17:12] Kilos: so you are trying to fix the usb on the machines where it is working? [17:12] yes [17:12] she has already left with her one [17:12] i go pee quick [17:13] ha ha ha [17:14] lol prostate probs are a nuisance [17:14] cant miss a pee time