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bluenemoI'm looking for a fast duplex document scanner that works well with ubuntu. preferably under 300-400 USD, I'm looking to buy a used model from ebay (so can be from 2016 or sth)00:10
SimonKALIhow to get this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Professional_Certification00:10
Krennichmm00:11
bluenemoI found the Fujitsu FI-6130 which looks ok but there is not a lot of documentation on if it runs well with Ubuntu Fujitsu FI-613000:11
bluenemoSimonKALI, you may want to google LPIC - linux professional institute certificate00:11
bluenemoit is helpful in applications in europe, not sure about the US00:11
SimonKALIbluenemo, are you sure? is cosc a lot there00:16
bluenemoSimonKALI, costs?00:18
bluenemoSimonKALI, well, what really helps is a good github account.00:18
bluenemotbh I run a Linux consulting company and I don't care at all about certificates. If somebody shows me a great github account I don't care where and how he studied ;)00:18
bluenemoalso the first LPIC test is nonsense mostly.. two and three are kind of ok00:19
bluenemoits broad knowledge00:19
SimonKALIuff00:19
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SimonKALIbluenemo, I gonna look for work in it soon00:22
bluenemoSimonKALI, what did you last work on regarding Linux?00:22
SimonKALIthats why I wanna do some certificates before00:22
SimonKALII had my company00:23
SimonKALInow I work in another branch00:24
SimonKALIbut I would like to go back to programming00:24
FurretUberHi, I reported a bug and in the Launchpad report it's asked to test the -proposed kernel for Bionic and Cosmic. I tested the -proposed Bionic kernel (and it works) but I don't want to upgrade my system to test for Cosmic. Could I test for Cosmic using linux-signed-lowlatency-hwe-18.04-edge in Bionic?00:53
Kazdaxnetflix not running on my firefox browser00:55
Kazdaxerror code F735500:55
KazdaxNetflix video player unavailable00:56
sullivanHi, I'm having an issue with my display driver (amdgpu); I'm getting a blank screen after boot.  Could anyone help me troubleshoot please?00:57
OerHeksKazdax, known issue, enable DRM and install libavcodec-extra https://askubuntu.com/questions/1030432/netflix-doesnt-work-since-installing-ubuntu-18-0400:58
irssican i wipe .cache01:10
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Guest20312its taking all my space01:10
sullivanGuest: Something you can try to free space is 'sudo apt autoclean'01:11
sullivanGuest: Also01:11
Guest20312but thats the package manager01:11
sullivanGuest: 'sudo apt autoremove', though this also removes older kernel versions.01:12
sullivanGuest: I can't recall if they touch .cache, but they'll certainly free up some space if you haven't run them periodically01:13
Guest20312yeah that did help a bit01:13
Guest2031287% to 83%01:13
Guest20312but its mostly thunderbird and chrome thats the problme01:13
en1gmacan someone help me get my rpi3b internal wifi up and running? im on ubuntu 18.04 server (currently its hooked up to internet through local lan by lan cord)01:16
en1gmadmesg does not look good01:16
hggdhGuest20312: not a good idea. You will lose a lot of data and settings01:17
sullivanGuest: According to google-fu, .cache holds config info for Chrome, so I'd be a bit leary about touching that folder unless you don't care about having to reconfigure Chrome01:18
en1gmahttps://pastebin.com/JpD2y9fr    my dmesg01:18
en1gmaomg its working01:19
en1gmafollow this guide https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-arm-108/raspberry-pi-3-b-wifi-nic-not-found-4175627137/01:20
sullivanGuest: I'd also recommend you poke around within Thunderbird and see if there's a bunch of old archived emails or something that's ballooning .cache, or if they're stuff you want to keep.  I have no idea if .cache is where Thunderbird stores its profile data, but it could be01:23
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virmahahello. While messing around with some packages on my ubuntu laptop, 1) I cannot hear any audio from video 2) I cannot connect to wifi!!02:09
Guest20312lol02:13
Guest20312good job virmaha02:13
virmahaGuest20312: lol. But how can I fix those issues :|02:14
Guest20312stop messing w packges?02:17
sullivanHi!  I've been having issues with display drivers, and now I can't even boot a live USB!  I've tried both 18.04LTS and 18.10 in different flavors02:21
Guest20312sulivan perhaps ur card is too old?02:27
Guest20312that shouldnt happen02:28
Vic2Hello, I cannot install curl using 14.04 ... any suggestion please?  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fmPc3wMfxb/02:29
hggdhVic2: try just running apt-get update02:30
hggdhs/just/first/02:30
aroonihey team; my syslog is filling up with stuff like Object St.Icon (0x5574fcd16d60), has been already deallocated - impossible to access to it. This might be caused  ;; on ubuntu 18.04  any idea on how to deal with it02:30
Vic2hmm, duh ... that's what I get when in a hurry, lol.  thanks hggdh02:31
hggdhVic2: yw02:31
Vic2that solved it of course, thanks!!!02:32
hggdharooni: this is gnome code, perhaps gnome-shell? You can open a bug on it: ubuntu-bug gnome-shell02:33
aroonihggdh: apparently someone did first02:33
aroonihttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/177990702:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1779907 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Object St.BoxLayout has been already deallocated - impossible to connect to signal." [Undecided,Invalid]02:33
hggdharooni: so... these messages seem to come from extensions. You will need to find which one it is, and open a bug on it (or report it upstream)02:36
OerHeks lots of bugreports .. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1747566 This bug was fixed in the package gnome-shell - 3.28.1-0ubuntu102:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1747566 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "syslog fills with messages: Object ..., has been already finalized. Impossible to get any property from it. ... (stack trace in tweener.js)" [High,Fix released]02:39
OerHeksand one answer, open weather extention in tweaktool https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/177990702:40
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1779907 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Object St.BoxLayout has been already deallocated - impossible to connect to signal." [Undecided,Invalid]02:40
sullivanHi, I've been having display driver issues for a while now; I've just tried to boot a live image of 18.04, after getting the same behavior with 18.10.  Can anyone advise on how to troubleshoot this problem?03:13
TimeDoctorsullivan: what graphics card/chip do you have?03:17
sullivanAMD RX 480/Polaris 1003:18
sullivanTimeDoctor: display driver is amdgpu03:18
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HaMsTeRsHey people, may I know what's the best, quickest/fastest text editor your guys use for coding?04:14
sullivanHaMsTeRs: Probably something like Notepad+04:18
Citizen-Se7enHaMsTeRs: That's really subjective, but I'm a VIM guy, myself.  Ugh, I feel like I've really stepped into a can of worms.04:18
* Citizen-Se7en looks for exit, stage left.04:19
HaMsTeRsthanks.   but would we miss the autocomplete thing from VSCODE04:21
Citizen-Se7enHaMsTeRs: VIM has autocomplete as well, though I'm not familiar on how extensive it is in VSCODE.04:23
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Net|does anyone know how to setup a compile cloud ?05:14
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Net|ide like to make things faster using networked servers, is there a virtual cloud ram setup somewhere ?05:14
Net|a compile farm05:15
Net|is there a way to add a cpu core to linux remotely over network ?05:31
Net|instead of using distcc05:32
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balsaqhello ubuntu technicians05:36
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gambl0reim using kubuntu 18.04, how do i upgrade python 2 to 3? isnt python 3 supposed to be installed by default?06:16
bindigambl0re: 'python3'06:19
bindiis the command for python 306:20
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acresearchpeople i just installed ubuntu 18.04 and it seems it has python 3.6    but all my programs use 3.7   and it crashing them, how can i update my python to 3.7? i already did sudo apt update and full-upgrade but that did not work06:31
lotuspsychje!latest | acresearch06:33
ubottuacresearch: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.06:33
lotuspsychjeacresearch: if a package is crashing, consider filing a new !bug instead of a workaround06:34
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wendicoHello, wendico here again installing ubuntu to more friends.08:13
lotuspsychjewendico: good idea08:13
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wendicoThis time, my friend laptop does not boot live version i belive because of the graphic card or acpi. How can i boot live cd in "error mode" or "graphis save mode"? thank you very much08:14
lotuspsychje!nomodeset | wendico08:15
ubottuwendico: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter08:15
pi0shoot i got a casio fx-cg5008:17
pi0lsusb shows it08:18
pi0but i cannot connect to it08:18
wendicolotuspsychje: thank you i try now08:18
lotuspsychjepi0: tail -f /var/log/syslog and connect your casio to ubuntu, see what errors you can catch08:19
pi0will do thank you08:21
Edistoafter making changes to a conf file what do I type to refresh my kernel again? is it initfram something or other08:32
Edistonevermind found it update-initramfs -u08:36
wendico<lotuspsychje08:55
wendicolotuspsychje: i made new usb drive coz i used unetbootin and dont know hot to activate nomodeset etc, in this las usb is very easy activate nomodeset noacpi. Thank you very much, ubuntu running09:00
wendicoI love this channel! Thank you very much all ubuntu supporters09:01
lotuspsychjewendico: welcome09:02
zzarr_Hello!09:03
zzarr_I have a setup with 3 displays, it worked fine in 18.0409:04
zzarr_but after upgrading to 18.10 I can use only one display09:04
zzarr_it's a Lenovo laptop (t430s) in a docking station with 2 dvi displays connected09:05
outZoNeSorry. there are Russian speakers ?09:05
ducasse!ru | outZoNe09:05
ubottuoutZoNe: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.09:05
outZoNethanks09:06
zzarr_during startup and shutdown I can see the ubuntu logo and the five dots on all diplays09:06
tarzeauzzarr_: nvidia driver?09:06
zzarr_intel graphics only09:07
zzarr_brb, I'll reboot09:11
zzarr_back09:17
zzarr_is it possible to revert to 18.04?09:17
EriC^^from 18.10 ?09:17
zzarr_yes09:17
EriC^^nope09:18
zzarr_dang09:18
zzarr_so basically reinstalling the machine09:18
zzarr_if I can't get the displays to work09:19
ducassezzarr_: check if xrandr can see the displays09:19
soee_hi, are there some libs in repo that allows ot convert CSV => XLS ?09:19
j__wanna make auto login on lubuntu 1809:19
j__any tips?09:19
zzarr_xrandr sees the displays09:19
j__arandr gives a visual application to configure your displays09:20
j__apt install xrandr09:20
j__arandr*09:20
SimonNLj__: login window settings ?09:20
SimonNLthats where that is in mint09:21
zzarr_I get "XRandR returned error code 1: xrandr: Configure crtc 1 failed"09:22
j__SimonNL: nah, lubuntu doesnt have that09:23
j__actually, lemme apt-cache search it09:23
SimonNLmaybe some other place where system settings are handled09:24
j__hahaha, yeah but someone here usually knows where09:26
Kilosgreetings guys and gals09:27
Kilosi have an interesting problem09:27
ducassej__: try a web search for 'lubuntu autologin', turns up lots of results09:27
Kilosanother lady wants to try kubuntu 18.04 from a flash drive but it cannot boot because of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/152117309:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1521173 in linux (Ubuntu Xenial) "AER: Corrected error received: id=00e0" [Medium,Triaged]09:28
Kiloscan anyone help me please?09:28
Kiloshow would one edit /etc/default/grub on install media09:29
Kilosthe laptop is an HP pavilion09:30
j__ducasse: Hi Long Time! yeah i did that, wasnt working... why i am here09:31
hateballKilos: you can edit the grub boot while live-booting09:31
Kilosyou need to reboot afterwards anyway so then the edit is lost09:32
ducassej__: https://askubuntu.com/questions/967837/how-to-enable-autologin-on-lubuntu-16-04-lts-lightdm/96783809:32
hateballKilos: as well as after install, just hold shift to get into grub and edit the boot-line, then once you're in make it permanent in /etc/default/grub09:32
Kilosty hateball  let me go try that09:33
victorhhi guys. I'm running a server with a pcie solid state disk and it's getting killed by the pcie_aspm (or at least thats what i think). now i'm trying to edit the pcie_aspm to set to performance, but no matter what i try it still says default when i look up /sys/modules/pcie_aspm/parameter/policy09:33
zzarr_why are there 2 shades of gray in arandr's background?09:34
zzarr_is the smaller rectangle the max size?09:35
victorhi added this to the default grub script: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="pcie_aspm=performance" *sorry for the caps but that's how its in there ^^09:35
victorhanyone ideas?09:36
hateballvictorh: did you also rebuild grub cfg?09:38
victorhhi hateball, of course. everytime changing something in grub, running update-grub09:38
wendicowhat is the command to add the full libre office package? ty09:39
victorhafter some intense searching, i didn't find a lot of documentation on the pcie_aspm09:39
hateballvictorh: alright, it's easy to forget is why I asked :)09:41
hateballvictorh: sadly I do not know about your actual issue09:41
victorhhaha no problem, it's the first thing i would ask09:42
zzarr_are there no updated drivers for displaylink?09:43
SkidzHi all09:43
zzarr_(for 18.10)09:43
victorhhateball: i'll post something on the forum09:45
ducassevictorh: you can also try ##linux09:47
victorhducasse: thanks! i'll have a look there as well!09:50
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kanupatarHi all, I am using Ubuntu 18.04, How can I enable the hibernate option (suspend to disk) ? I tried many blogs but not successful09:53
zzarr_I think the docking station have displaylink USB->HDMI chips09:55
MalMenhi09:58
MalMenis this the right place to ask about bash09:58
lotuspsychjeMalMen: we try to focus on ubuntu issues here09:59
lotuspsychjeMalMen: see #bash or ##linux09:59
MalMenokay, I may try #bash thenm, thank you anyway *09:59
lotuspsychjekanupatar: gnome-tweak-tool has a hibernate option enable/disable on lid close10:00
kanupatarlotuspsychje: I am using a dell based desktop10:01
lotuspsychjekanupatar: can this help: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2018/05/add-hibernate-option-ubuntu-18-04/10:03
akkonradis there a package that will show me indicator of the current sound? something like this: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0977/4240/products/il_fullxfull.1054777221_nym4.jpg?v=152771894110:07
akkonradubuntu 1610:07
akkonrad16.0410:07
kanupatarlotuspsychje: yes, yes. sysctl hibernate simply does suspend to ram10:07
SkidzI have a chromebook with 17.10 that functions fine but in 18.04 or 18.10 the keyboard does not work. Any ideas in what direction i should look?10:18
TJ-Skidz: in 17.10 determine how the keyboard connects (which bus, which driver) (use "dmesg") then compare with the other non-working versions10:23
SkidzTJ- OK, will do. Thx so far.10:24
j__ducasse: yeah that one worked10:25
j__Wanted it for gnome instead of lightdm but i will just use this one10:25
nedRhello my laptop is on a hardware reboot loop due to some hardware issue.. I took the HDD from that laptop and put it into another laptop. I booted using an ubuntu liveusb. When i try to mount rw the drive , i get the error "windows is hibernated refused to mount" How can i bypass this10:27
j__how about custom boot and shutdown splashscreens?10:28
SimonNLnedR: boot windows and disable fast start up an/or hibernation10:29
nedRSimonNL, Thanks for reply ... I dont think My original laptop will allow me to boot into windows 10. Can i boot into windows from this laptop?10:30
SimonNLdon't think so10:31
SimonNLbut you could try ( no idea if thats safe to do)10:31
discoveredHow can i get ubuntu for complete gnome environment ?10:32
nedRSimonNL, OK.. is there anyway to force ubuntu to mount the drive in rw mode10:34
Ool discovered with a clic : https://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop10:34
TJ-nedR: no, because Windows left the file-system in an inconsistent state10:34
TJ-nedR: when it hibernates there may be unwritten blocks still in the journal/log that haven't been committed, or in the hibernation memory image.10:35
discoveredOol, Is that all i need? does it has original gnome look and functionality?10:36
nedRTJ, ah this is a fine pickle...10:37
SimonNLnedR: read up about it on internet10:37
TJ-!info vanilla-gnome-desktop | discovered: you just need to install10:38
ubottudiscovered: you just need to install: vanilla-gnome-desktop (source: ubuntu-gnome-meta): Vanilla GNOME metapackage. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.83 (bionic), package size 4 kB, installed size 13 kB (Only available for amd64; armhf; arm64; i386; ppc64el)10:38
nedRSimonNL, ya i have been... All people suggesting booting into windows.. But for me that isn't an option..10:38
TJ-nedR: The only thing I can think of is to boot it in a virtual machine guest but I'm not sure how far it'd get until it choked; and there is no guarantee that wouldn't make things worse. You'd need to clone the windows image and test on the clone to be sure10:39
TJ-nedR: how about trying to fix the original hardware issue itself?10:40
discoveredTJ-, Thanks ... I will have a look at it :)10:40
nedRi can't tile the window to half the screen.. why is that.. isn't that supported in 18.04 or is it an issue with the live usb10:40
nedRTJ-, ya i have been trying to fix the original hdd issue, but it seems to be in the motherboard... so wanted to backup and remove personal data before giving it to the nosy repair shops10:42
nedR*orignal hardware issue10:42
TJ-nedR: does Linux on that PC also have problems?10:42
TJ-nedR: might be easier to just buy a small cheap compatible blank HDD/SDD/whatever and stick that in it for sending to the repair centre; they don't need your OS or data if there is a hardware error10:43
nedRTJ- yes.. it lasts a couple minutes to seconds and then suddenly reboots... tried booting from usb. tried removing and reinserting ram, removing keyboard. using a charger from a different laptop , removing dvd drive, using different power outlets...10:44
TJ-nedR: thermal issue? what make/model is that?10:45
nedRnot thermal issue... even after lying cold a whole day it reboots in 1-2 minutes10:45
SimonNLsome solder point lose10:46
nedRits acer aspier 471g 2013, 3rd gen i3 ,10:46
TJ-nedR: and if you enter BIOS setup does it still reboot whilst just left there?10:46
nedRwith nvidia optimus 620m10:46
nedRmy nvidia is disabled btw10:46
nedRTJ- Hmm... i haven't tried too long in bios.. i left it for half an hour in grub menu.. and it didnt reboot tho10:46
TJ-nedR: that's telling of itself10:47
FurretUberHi, I reported a bug and in the Launchpad report it's asked to test the -proposed kernel for Bionic and Cosmic. I tested the -proposed Bionic kernel (and it works) but I don't want to upgrade my system to test for Cosmic. Could I test for Cosmic using linux-signed-lowlatency-hwe-18.04-edge in Bionic?10:47
nedRthe laptop battery is long been dead, and removed btw10:47
discoveredwhat is the difference between gnome-session and vanilla-gnome-desktop?10:48
nedRTJ- ya it is .. but i dont know what it means.. couple days back i shared some of these symptoms here.. and some1 suggested that the 'cold reboot' was symptomatic of power regulator to cpu gone bad10:48
nedRi dont think it is a gpu issue, since it happens in terminal mode as well... but i think i first started noticing the issue while gaming...10:49
TJ-nedR: hmmm, power regulator is possible; the other issue I'd be thinking about is thermal issues having caused cracks in solder of the CPU or GPU. As it starts up and heats the cracks expand and suddenly there's no longer a circuit in some critical path.10:52
TJ-nedR: HOWEVER, if it can sit in BIOS or GRUB for a long time as you say, the thermal issue / cracked solder is less likely10:52
TJ-nedR: so that points to some device that an OS initialises that isn't used by BIOS/GRUB10:53
TJ-nedR: my first thought then would be Wifi network device, bluetooth possibly10:53
TJ-nedR: if the wifi is in a slot, as many are, it is possible to remove it and test10:53
nedRTJ- ah thats interesting.. but i booted into ubuntu recovery mode.. Does that talk to wifi/bluetooth module?10:54
nedRyes it is removable.. i can try it10:54
nedRin ubuntu recovery mode also it rebooted..10:54
TJ-nedR: I'm not sure, but I doubt it does, I'm not even sure if it would try to load the wifi driver in that mode10:54
TJ-nedR: if you can get to recovery mode we can do some tests to identify this if you like10:55
nedRTJ- wow ok thanks...  i will reassemble laptop without hdd and wifi and get back to you...10:56
TJ-nedR: if you get to recovery, do this "lspci -nnk -d ::280" which should list just the wifi device and show which kernel driver it uses, and if one is currently loaded "Kernel driver in use: XXXXX"10:57
nedRTJ,since no hdd booting from ubuntu livecd is fine i guess...10:57
nedRTJ, i am planning to unplug the wifi module since i already have the laptop open anwyay tho10:58
TJ-nedR: if a driver isn't in use at that point you could test if loading the driver (and therefore initialising the wifi device) triggers the fault. That output will list "Kernel modules: XXXX" so you can do "modprobe XXXX" and continue using the PC, see if it fails10:58
TJ-nedR: OK, well, good luck :)10:58
charnelHow can I launch a desktop application from remote server ? The application is a server and has to be running all the tim.e11:12
rainbowtuxhi all, dpkg --configure -a hangs and i cannot find out why... debug shows as last line: D000001: deferred_configure updating conffiles11:12
rainbowtuxany ideas?11:12
TJ-charnel: "desktop application" and "server" don't usually go together; you'll need to explain more11:16
TJ-rainbowtux: see "dpkg -Dh" and use that to get more debug info11:17
charnelTJ: YEah I know but I need a server to run the encrify service. Which requires GUI.11:17
TJ-charnel: you'd need to install the xserver and presumably use the dummy video driver then11:18
charnelTJ: Thanks for the reply, I installed ubuntu desktop (I know I am asking for too much) But I need to make sure that the application is running after I log out (I am using ssh -XY .... )11:20
nedRTJ-, ok seems my laptop doesn't want to boot from my ubuntu 14.04 livecd (the fact taht it turned yellow might have something to do with it) .. ok i gotta use this usb drive..11:20
nedRwill brb after i try booting into it11:20
discoveredi have installed vanila-gnome-desktop . But i see some duplicate item in menu list now !11:25
TJ-charnel: charnel XPRA may help: see https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/132056/linux-ssh-launching-gui-application-and-leaving-it-running11:25
BluesKaj'Morning all11:52
kusmarioGood morning11:53
nedrTJ- hi its me.. nedr.. from mobile webchat11:53
nedrBooted in usb.. so far no reboots last 20 mins or so11:53
nedrTJ- So it seems hdd, or wifi module or touchpad is issue since those not connected!!!11:55
nedrOk i will try reconnecting those 1 by 1 and see results.. damn ..webirc on mobile is a nightmare11:56
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lotuspsychjediscovered: what items?11:58
nedrLaptop is superhot . Still didnt restart.. guess can rule out thermal once and for all11:59
discoveredlotuspsychje, Logs, Characters12:05
discoveredCalculator too12:06
nedrTJ- Reconnected wifi module.. almost instant restart... Retrying .. and seeing12:07
lotuspsychjediscovered: perhaps its because of snaps vs vanilla gnome classic packages?12:07
lotuspsychjediscovered: some packages on 18.04 now comes by default snaps12:08
discoveredI don't know, I just wanted to have complete gnome looks and functionality. How do i remove those duplicate package?12:09
lotuspsychjediscovered: lets investigate why first, can you make a screenshot for us?12:10
lotuspsychjediscovered: maybe check process monitor to see if they are snaps or apt packages?12:10
discoveredhttp://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1542888686.png, http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1542888737.png lotuspsychje12:12
lotuspsychjediscovered: okay, tnx can you open the 2 different calculators please and check the system process monitor12:14
lotuspsychjediscovered: this guy seems to have uninstalled one: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1048104/two-calculators-in-menu12:15
discoveredlotuspsychje, http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1542889005.png12:16
discovereddbus-daemon has two process too12:17
lotuspsychjeyeah i see it12:18
lotuspsychjesomethings not right indeed12:18
lotuspsychjediscovered: did you reboot yet after the vanilla install?12:18
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discoveredyes. I did12:18
lotuspsychjehmmz12:18
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discoveredin activity view "system monitor" also has two menu ...12:20
lotuspsychjediscovered: im out of ideas on this one, maybe someone else can have a look12:20
lotuspsychjei never played alot with classic gnome12:21
discoveredWhat i know ubuntu now use gnome-shell but only with some customization ....12:21
lotuspsychjediscovered: maybe take a look in your gnome main menu?12:21
discoveredin Application it is one "System Monitor"12:22
discoveredlotuspsychje, http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1542889394.png12:23
discoveredlotuspsychje, One has a snapstore calculator ! Named Gnome Calculator too12:27
glitchdhello all12:35
glitchdlooking for a bit of assistance, i have 18.04.1 installed with xubuntu-desktop.12:36
glitchdim having a problem with disk space12:36
glitchdmy free space is filling with me doing nothing12:36
discoveredA bit confused how two application can be installed : http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1542890190.png12:37
glitchdmy hard disk is filling by itself12:37
surrounderglitchd: so find out where exactly it's filling up?12:38
surrounderow left already12:39
nekowaiidesuAny obvious reason why I may get "bash: ./tdm_update.linux: No such file or directory12:46
nekowaiidesu"12:46
nekowaiidesuwhen that file definitely exists.. the autocomplete even works12:46
iorianekowaiidesu, what kind of file is that ?  file <path>12:49
nekowaiidesui used chmod +x on that file.. which gave no errors, I can see it has executable tab with ls... but I can't run it?12:49
nekowaiidesuIt's an installer for "The Dark Mod"12:49
iorianekowaiidesu,  file <path>  and paste here12:49
outZoNels12:50
nekowaiidesu /home/desu/tdm/tdm_update.linux12:50
surroundernekowaiidesu: put file in front of that12:51
iorianekowaiidesu,  not ls,  file  <path>12:51
nekowaiidesuOh, my bad. Misunderstood12:52
nekowaiidesu/home/desu/tdm/tdm_update.linux: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, BuildID[sha1]=5a5b6e564c4e4cdc0d9d7a2f368400d84e04275c, not stripped12:52
iorianekowaiidesu,  32-bit12:52
iorianekowaiidesu,  you maybe lack 32bit lib suport12:53
HaMsTeRsLagging13:07
lotuspsychjediscovered: like i said, one of them could be snap13:13
lotuspsychjediscovered: in software centre you should be able to see if its an apt package or a snap13:14
discoveredlotuspsychje, snap is more updated package?13:24
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CoolerZi am trying to use selenium and it requires chromedriver executable file to be in the PATH13:39
discoveredlotuspsychje, I just used the snap to remove those duplicate package!13:39
CoolerZwhen i do "which chromedriver" i don't get any output13:39
LabanHello!13:44
LabanWhat would you say is the preferred way to mount? I have a folder shared over NFS that I want in multiple locations on my machine. Should I a) mount the share over NFS once then do bind-mounts locally? or b) do multiple NFS-mounts?13:45
lotuspsychjediscovered: so you fixxed it now?13:45
discoveredYes... i did !13:46
lotuspsychje!yay | discovered13:46
ubottudiscovered: Glad you made it! :-)13:46
discoveredfirst time i hear about snap hehe13:47
geirhaCoolerZ: add the correct directory to PATH in .profile (not .bashrc)13:50
geirhaCoolerZ: and then you need to log in again for the changes to take effect13:51
discoveredlotuspsychje, Most of time i get flinched when for system bell(like in terminal when you press backspace key)13:52
lotuspsychjediscovered: thats when you hit the left side with backspace13:54
discoveredlotuspsychje, right!13:55
CoolerZgeirha, already done all that13:55
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geirhaCoolerZ: including logging in again?13:55
discoveredlotuspsychje, I like the Drip sound effect only13:55
CoolerZgeirha, fixed it, i had put ~ in the PATH instead of the /home/user/13:59
CoolerZfixed13:59
geirha~ works, you just have to keep it unquoted13:59
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jostHi! I'm running XUbuntu 18.04 in a corporate network environment (Windows Domain, DNS and so on). I frequently have the problem, that my machine sends out tons of DNS queries... this puts load on the CPU (maybe 1 core at 100%),  and on the network (sometimes 1.2 MB/s down and 800KB/s up). If I restart the dnsmasq-service, traffic and cpu load go down to normal levels again. What could be the reason for this? How to debug it?14:20
TJ-jost: what are the queries for?14:21
* kszl mocskos haevy metal!14:21
jostTJ-: Just restarted dnsmasq, but I'll wait until it starts again, then I can tell14:22
YounderNot sure this belogngs in ubuntu. My printer is not working. It claims there is a paper jam. There isn't one, so I assume there is a failed sensor. Where do I go (web) to repair a printer myself?14:22
TJ-jost: I'm wondering if they're for external public hosts, are LAN host/service enquiries, and what process is demanding them14:22
TJ-Younder: give a good blow-out!14:23
TJ-Younder: possibly there is a scrap, or paper dust, confusing the sensor(s)14:23
jostYounder: try Youtube... They have many HowTo Videos on disassembling and fixing things like laptops, phones and so on14:23
jostYounder: But try what TJ- said first :-)14:24
Younderthx14:24
TJ-Younder: it is amazing what an air-compressor can fix14:25
Kazdaxubuntu seems faster than windows14:36
Kazdaxlike when it boots up and you get to the desktop ..it dosnt take to long before its workable ..windows takes a huge time to load14:36
Kazdaxmaybe i had more services and processes in boot sequence14:36
lordcirthKazdax, that is why I originally switched, yes14:37
Kazdaxya same reason also i needed added security14:37
Kazdaxso i am not wondering if a rootkit is in my system14:38
lotuspsychje!discuss | Kazdax14:38
ubottuKazdax: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!14:38
atmarkHello, I accidentally deleted the whole folder /etc/apparmor.d/ by mistake. How can I regenerate this apparmor profile? I tried dpkg-reconfigure apparmor but it didn't worked.14:38
conallHi. I want to mount some nfs shares using /etc/fstab but I keep getting "mount.nfs network is unreachable". I have tried adding _netdev to the options list, as well as automounting, but for some reason, during boot, it does not have an effect14:42
lotuspsychjeatmark: you could try apparmor purge, then reinstall, see if apt complains14:43
Cheezconall: i ended up writing systemd mount units for my nfs shares rather than using /etc/fstab14:44
conallCheez: yes, I was thinking that maybe I would have to. Although the docs say that /etc/fstab is the prefered route14:45
wendicohello again, i finall installed ubuntu on my friend laptop with nomodeset option enabled, on live i had a good resolution but after install i only have small 640x???14:45
Cheezi put them in fstab and ended up in emergency mode when it couldn't mount them fast enough as the network wasn't ready14:45
conallCheez: What should go under "Before/After/Wanted-By" etc?14:45
wendicoif i go to configuration i have no resolution to choose, the options are empty, and of course i need a bigger resolution, windows doesnt even fit with such small resolution, what i can do? thank you14:46
Cheezconall: i don't have access to the server from here at work i'm afraid. i followed a tutorial i found on google for it14:46
lotuspsychjewendico: your grafix card chipset plz?14:49
lotuspsychjewendico: sudo lshw -C video14:51
amitkm9204Is there any optimization for battery power as also in 18.04 we are getting the more power consumption.14:55
lotuspsychje!info laptop-mode-tools | amitkm920414:55
ubottuamitkm9204: laptop-mode-tools (source: laptop-mode-tools): Tools for Power Savings based on battery/AC status. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.71-2ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 83 kB, installed size 378 kB14:55
amitkm9204Ok ty14:56
tonytHappy Thanksgiving14:57
wendicolotuspsychje: G86M Integrated laptop nvidia geforce 8600M GS15:05
lotuspsychjewendico: ubuntu-drivers list, shows what?15:05
Kazdaxshould i get third party drivers for my buntu15:06
Kazdaxubuntu15:06
Kazdaxthe graphic UI seems okay to me15:06
Kazdaxdont know if getting a driver would help make it look better or perform faster15:07
Kazdaxi dont play games on this machine15:07
lotuspsychjeKazdax: sudo lshw -C video will show wich driver enabled15:07
lotuspsychjeKazdax: at bottom behind driver=15:07
Kazdaxits telling me how to use lshw15:08
Kazdaxnot showing the driver information15:08
wendico<lotuspsychje> In aditional drivers says im using X.org X Server but have the option to use NVIDIA binary driver version 340 (tested but not show suggested15:08
Kazdaxmaybe i typed something wrong15:08
wendicoim not gonna play or use extenseive graphics on this laptop i prefer go on open source, just need more resolution, live mode gives good resolution15:09
wendicobut after install and reboot go down to 640x48015:09
lotuspsychjewendico: thats because you have nomodeset still active, its reccomended to install an nvidia driver or use xorg without nomodeset15:10
wendicobut without nomodeset i could not install, can i now disable nomodeset?15:10
lotuspsychjewendico: nomodeset is great, to enter a system when you normally cant or have black screen at boot15:11
Kazdaxya it has a nividia driver15:11
Kazdaxit says VGA compatible controller15:11
Kazdaxand says15:11
Kazdaxvendor: NIVIDIA corporation15:11
lotuspsychjewendico: now you are in the system, you can install the nvidia driver or, fallback to nouveau15:11
Kazdaxso it seems i dont need to install any futher graphical drivers i suppose15:12
lotuspsychjeKazdax: at bottom driver= ?15:12
wendico<lotuspsychje> ok i try install nvidia driver see what happends15:12
Kazdaxwell i did lshw ..not lshw -C15:12
wendicoi dont understand "nouveau" english 3er language15:12
Kazdaxthat wasnt working15:12
lotuspsychjeKazdax: sudo lshw -C video15:12
Kazdaxoo15:13
Kazdaxmy bad15:13
lotuspsychje!nouveau | wendico15:13
ubottuwendico: nouveau is an open-source nvidia driver included by default since Ubuntu 10.04. Currently, 3D rendering is only partially supported. More information can be found at http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ | See !nvidia for the closed-source Nvidia driver.15:13
Kazdaxya thats it lotus15:13
Kazdaxwhat i said about15:13
Kazdaxvendor : NIVIDIA corporation15:13
lotuspsychjeKazdax: does your card show 'unclaimed' at the top?15:14
Kazdaxproduct also Geforce GTS 45015:14
wendicohow to "fallback to nouveau" (testing activating nvidia driver meanwhile)15:14
Kazdaxno it dosnt15:14
lotuspsychjewendico: to fallback to nouveau: sudo apt purge nvidia*15:14
Kazdaxit seems like i do have the original drivers15:15
Kazdaxi dont want to get a third party one do I ?15:15
lotuspsychjeKazdax: what gives= ubuntu-drivers list plz?15:15
Kazdaxlotus i dont understand15:15
wendico<lotuspsychje> thank you, so im installing nvidia right now, then reboot, if something goes wrong i sudo apt purge nvidia*   (is * misspell or should i write it also)15:15
lotuspsychjeKazdax: open a terminal and type: ubuntu-drivers list15:16
Kazdaxnvidia-34015:16
Kazdaxnvidia-driver-39015:16
Xatenevhello15:16
lotuspsychjewendico: nvidia* is correct15:16
Xatenevfor some reason my `vim` is broken15:16
Xatenevwhen i type in vim it tells me nvim: comman dnot found15:16
wendico<lotuspsychje> thank you very much, owe u a beer if solved, driver installing still15:16
lotuspsychjeKazdax: if you have an nvidia driver installed, it should show driver=latency15:17
Xatenevwhen i type which vim it says: /usr/bin/vim, then ll /usr/bin | grep vim it says vim -> /etc/alternatives/vim*15:17
Xatenevand /etc/alternatives/vim seems to point to /usr/bin/vim.gtk15:17
Kazdaxit says latency is zero15:17
Xatenevwhat is happening? :/15:17
lotuspsychjeKazdax: yes, that means you already using nvidia driver15:18
lotuspsychjeKazdax: if your graphics are performing well, you dont need other drivers15:19
Xatenevanyone?15:21
lotuspsychje!patience | Xatenev15:21
ubottuXatenev: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/15:21
lotuspsychjeXatenev: we have users all over the world in different timezones, when they see your question they will help15:21
Xatenevokdoke15:22
wendico<lotuspsychje> marked NVIDIA driver, now stuck to blank screen,15:24
wendicoany suggestion or start over15:24
wendicostill Control+Alt+F1 bringing down console?15:24
wendicoby blinking lights and all im almost sure ubuntu boots ok, just blank screen activating NVIDIA Driver15:25
wendicogonna try to plug external TV15:25
lotuspsychjewendico: try to fallback to nouveau: sudo apt purge nvidia*15:25
lotuspsychjewendico: wich ubuntu version was this again?15:26
wendico<lotuspsychje> cant try, cant see15:26
maddawg2sigh... ubuntu is honestly starting to piss me off with every realease the do15:26
discoveredWhat tool is good to create bootable usb ubuntu?15:26
lotuspsychjemaddawg2: we focus on ubuntu issues here15:26
wendicolast 18.04 fully updated clean install15:26
lotuspsychjewendico: ok you could also try nvidia-driver-390 perhaps15:26
maddawg2i cant even install 18.04 correctly :-( everytime I try and I turn it on i get to the login screen and I login but just get a blank window15:26
lotuspsychjemaddawg2: your graphics card chipset please?15:27
maddawg2lotuspsychje, it's a vm running on vmware Esxi 6.515:27
maddawg2there is np presented physical GPU15:27
maddawg2to the guest15:27
maddawg2also now ALL my scripts need to change since how IP addresses are assigned has, once again, changed15:28
maddawg2now*15:28
TJ-maddawg2: IP address assignment? you mean DHCP?15:29
maddawg2TJ-, no assigning IP addresses to the NIC15:29
maddawg2no longer done through the interface file15:29
TJ-maddawg2: there are alternative methods, but none have been removed15:30
TJ-maddawg2: of course there can be, if you install ifupdown package15:30
wendico<lotuspsychje> ok, resumming, i cant install if nomodeset is disabled, live works correct resolution but after install small resolution. On aditional drivers i have only on nvidia driver enabling causes black screen even though i can guess everything is working, Control+Alt+f1 dont bring back console, i cant go back to purge nvidia coz i cant see, so i must install again?15:30
TJ-maddawg2: if you're authoring scripts that have to work cross-release, then they should be written to ensure the pre-requisites are installed first, before relying on commands15:30
lotuspsychjewendico: if you cant enter system, do the nomodeset trick again15:31
wendicoso should i boot recovery and do nomodeset?15:33
TwoNotesSoftware Updater says updates are available totaling 166 MB.  But the Details window is empty.  wtf?15:35
lotuspsychje!nomodeset | wendico15:36
ubottuwendico: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter15:36
lotuspsychjeTwoNotes: your ubuntu version plz?15:36
TwoNotes18.04 I think15:36
lotuspsychjeTwoNotes: wich .iso did you download/try ?15:37
wendico<lotuspsychje> I know, u are helping so much people is difficult to get u. No modeset works for live and boot but i have to small resolution15:37
TwoNotesIt was a whle ago - this has been upgraded from 16.0415:37
wendicoi bootted recovery mode and im purging nvidia15:37
lotuspsychjeTwoNotes: at early stages of 18.04 there was a but on update window not showing text progress15:38
lotuspsychjeTwoNotes: *bug sorry15:38
lotuspsychjewendico: are you still in livemode? or did you actually install ubuntu already?15:39
TwoNotesYes, it is 18.04.1 LTS Bionic Beaver15:39
wendicolol, installed 3 times allready15:39
wendico:)15:39
lotuspsychjewendico: thats not needed mate15:39
lotuspsychjeTwoNotes: ok, try doing your updates and reboot15:39
TwoNoteslotuspsychje OK it is running15:40
edenwhat exactly does "recovery mode" disable? I'm troubleshooting why I currently can only boot via recovery mode (then default / continue)15:42
eden18.1015:42
wendicoi start over :)15:42
lotuspsychjewendico: on the installed ubuntu, you have 2 choices: or nvidia driver, or the opensource driver nouveau15:42
lotuspsychjewendico: if you get a black screen, use !nomodeset option15:43
lotuspsychjewendico: dont keep reinstalling ubuntu15:43
wendicohow i use that option15:43
Sir_AndreiHi people.15:43
lotuspsychjewendico: you said you used it before to enter your system?15:44
lordcirth!nomodeset15:44
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter15:44
Sir_AndreiI have a problem.15:44
Sir_AndreiWell, I'd burn an USB with Lubuntu 18.04.1 amd6415:45
TJ-wendico: sometimes you can avoid the issue by changing the GRUB boot-loader to start in text not graphical mode15:45
Sir_AndreiAnd on a Toshiba notebook I cannot boot it 'cause it doesn't recognize it.15:45
rajrajrajI have a machine with two ubuntu installed, one in sda1 and another one in sda3, the problem is I cannot get the grub menu to make a choice at the time of boot. please help. I have tried boot-repair, and update-grub(it lists the other ubuntu only)15:45
edenlordcirth whats up with !nomodeset vs nomodeset, I added nomodeset to my GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT15:45
edenbut I did not add !nomodeset15:45
Sir_AndreiBIOS is Phoenix SecureBoot 1.9015:45
lordcirtheden, the ! is the bot command to display that help text^15:46
lotuspsychjeTwoNotes: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/107213615:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1072136 in update-manager (Ubuntu Bionic) "[FFe] After doing updates, update manager propose to install an empty list of updates" [High,Fix released]15:46
Sir_AndreiSecureCore*15:46
Sir_AndreiWell, it's UEFI.15:46
edenlordcirth: thanks, were you answering me as to whats different with recoverymode?15:46
lordcirtheden, no, I was answering wendico15:46
TwoNoteslotuspsychje OK it should be fixed after this update then.15:47
rajrajraji also need help with grub, eden would you have any clue15:47
edenrajrajraj: what help do you need? Unlikely but I can try15:48
lotuspsychjeTwoNotes: yes, i presume15:48
rajrajrajeden:  i can not see the grub screen, I have two ubuntu unstalled15:48
rajrajrajsda1 and sda3, ubuntu 16.04 each15:48
edenrajrajraj, have you tried hitting escape while it starts?15:48
rajrajrajit by defaut starts with the one in sda315:48
rajrajrajeden:  no i havent15:48
edentry that. for me it just boots unless I do that15:49
rajrajrajeden:  in my other machine it usually comed  by default15:49
Sir_AndreiIt doesn't even appear in Boot config, if u know what i mean.15:49
edenI think Grub will appear automatically if you have multiple OS installed... to choose.15:50
rajrajraji tried esc it just gives me that dell screen of boot options, not the grub screen15:50
rajrajrajeden:  it should but it isnt15:50
edenhmmm, that sounds like bios settings, you may need to hit escape just after its too late to trigger bios15:50
rajrajraji did hit the esc it brought me to a different screen than the grub screen15:51
RonaldsMazitishello, I have ubuntu 16.04 and my mouse sometimes stops working until system restart15:55
RonaldsMazitishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome3/+bug/116709715:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1167097 in meta-gnome3 (Ubuntu) "The mouse stops working randomly and have to reset " [Undecided,Confirmed]15:55
RonaldsMazitisfound similar bug in gnome 315:55
RonaldsMazitisI am currently using Openbox as alternative to gnome and kde15:55
RonaldsMazitis4.4.0-131-generic #157-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jul 12 15:49:15 UTC 2018 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux15:56
edenso what confuses me is that recovery mode claims to just load basic services and drop me in command line. However, I am using it now as the only way to boot, and once I do it seems to load everything (not just basic services), fine.15:57
edenI just select recovery mode, then continue. And things work, otherwise it hangs on the ubuntu splash.15:57
TJ-eden: sounds like it is bypassing "friendly-recovery" mode15:58
TJ-eden: the difference between 'recovery' and 'default' modes is in the kernel cmomand-line15:58
TJ-eden: set in /etc/default/grub GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= (recovery) and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= (default)15:59
edenTJ: thanks thats helpful, so if I'm trying to troubleshoot the difference/fix normal boot.... I should look at that file?16:00
edenreview that default perhaps?16:00
akemHey.16:00
RonaldsMazitishey how do I restart my mouse without restarting pc16:01
zaggynlReseat the USB connector.16:02
akemWell unplugg or disconnect it if bluetooth then reconnect it?16:02
LupuloRonaldsMazitis, reconnect the mouse16:02
TJ-RonaldsMazitis: you can use sysfs to remove the device and rescan the bus16:02
RonaldsMazitisLupulo if that would be that easy16:03
akemIs it possible to download the full Ubuntu 17.10 online? Like the DVD sets of what's available through apt?16:04
RonaldsMazitisthere is no sysfs16:05
RonaldsMazitisin my system16:05
LupuloRonaldsMazitis, https://superuser.com/questions/141290/how-to-tell-x-org-to-reload-input-device-module-working-around-suspend-to-ram16:05
RonaldsMazitisnice lost mouse and keypad16:07
RonaldsMazitiswith rmmod16:07
RonaldsMazitiswhat now16:07
RonaldsMazitisI mean16:08
RonaldsMazitisunable to found touchpad16:08
edenTJ: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""   and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"    is what I have now.... any ideas if these could be changed to more closely match recovery mode?16:08
RonaldsMazitisunable to found synaptics touchpad16:08
RonaldsMazitisLupolo smart16:09
RonaldsMazitis:D16:09
LupuloRonaldsMazitis, try to install gpm in console (not virtual)16:09
RonaldsMazitiswhat will that do16:09
LupuloRonaldsMazitis, the mouse is there.16:09
LupuloRonaldsMazitis, apt-get install RonaldsMazitis16:09
Lupuloapt-get install gpm16:10
Lupulofriend tip16:10
wendicosorry phonecall16:10
RonaldsMazitisare you trolling me16:10
RonaldsMazitis?16:10
Lupulothe problem is in X16:10
Lupulonot RonaldsMazitis , try to install gpm,16:10
RonaldsMazitisanybody clarify that Lupolo is correct16:10
RonaldsMazitisI can't cause I can't google without mouse16:11
LupuloRonaldsMazitis, you could use elinks out of X, with gpm mouse16:11
ioriaRonaldsMazitis, whatever module you removed, just sudo modprobe  <module>16:11
TJ-RonaldsMazitis: find the node for the device under /sys/bus/usb/devices/ then do, for the device bus id, e.g. "echo 1 > /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-4/remove" but to rescan you'd need a small helper program, as detailed by Alan Stern here https://marc.info/?l=linux-usb&m=121459435621262&w=216:12
wendicoi read about all you say and come back with the questions thank u all: TJ-  Lordcirth   lotuspsychje16:12
ioriaRonaldsMazitis, sudo modprobe psmouse   (e.g.)16:12
wendicoringbell, some visit, bb asap16:12
RonaldsMazitisokay touchpad is back16:13
RonaldsMazitismouse not16:13
RonaldsMazitis:<16:13
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RonaldsMazitisthat small c16:14
RonaldsMazitisprogram will do something16:14
TJ-RonaldsMazitis: the missing info is exactly which device file you're supposed to run it on!16:14
edenweird I just removed quite and splash from my GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT and when I booted I got no text (just purple) then splash... shouldn't that drive it?16:16
RonaldsMazitis~/mouse$ ./a.out16:16
RonaldsMazitisUsage: usbreset device-filename16:16
edenis there some other grub config then /etc/default/grub16:16
RonaldsMazitiswhat I have to to do with Usage?16:18
RonaldsMazitisif (argc != 2) {16:19
RonaldsMazitisis what happens16:19
RonaldsMazitisfrom the code16:19
BluesKajeden, you just have to set your GRUB_TIMEOUT=X, with the number of secs you want it to appear, in /etc/default/grub16:19
TJ-RonaldsMazitis: oh, it required usbfs, which would present devices at /proc/bus/usb which is deprecated and rarely available16:20
RonaldsMazitisthis problem never happened in past16:20
RonaldsMazitisit almosts makes me think I have to upgrade everything to 18.0416:21
coz_happy thanksgiving for those that celebrate16:21
RonaldsMazitishappy :>16:21
coz_")16:22
RonaldsMazitis(I am from Europe, no idea what You celebrate)16:22
TJ-RonaldsMazitis: well we're talking about a workaround, not a solution.16:22
coz_RonaldsMazitis, oh ok16:22
RonaldsMazitisIt was 100 years for my country 4 days ago16:22
RonaldsMazitiswe did not get to news outlets worldwide16:23
RonaldsMazitissomehow16:23
coz_RonaldsMazitis,  excellent,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_(United_States)16:23
RonaldsMazitisgive me smaller version16:24
RonaldsMazitisI have idea that this had something to do with native americans16:24
coz_RonaldsMazitis, food day :)16:25
RonaldsMazitisyeah but there was part about killing16:26
RonaldsMazitislol16:26
RonaldsMazitisI don't even care, I need my mouse to restart lol16:26
coz_:)16:26
RonaldsMazitisHave You listened to rapper Nas song called "Poison"16:27
RonaldsMazitis?16:27
coz_no but maybe better in #ubuntu-offtopic16:27
LupuloRonaldsMazitis, https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/mouse-mousekeys.html.en16:29
akemAcerFor Debian it was possible to download several DVDs of what was available on apt main repository, DVD set of 8 or 9 ISOs or something, is there something like that for Ubuntu, so i could have offline install of most of the important packages?16:30
lotuspsychjeakemAcer: you can use apt to download your favorite packages .deb if you like16:33
RonaldsMazitisLupolo I'm not using gnome16:33
RonaldsMazitisI feel like gnome updates made my mouse fail16:33
RonaldsMazitistouchpad works16:35
RonaldsMazitisjust the mouse16:35
akemAcerlotuspsychje, i can download them with all the dependencies and then if i do a fresh offline install use thoses packages?16:35
RonaldsMazitisI can easily plug it in the other pc and it works16:35
lotuspsychjeakemAcer: but this system also makes that your .debs get outdated and its reccomended to keep your system up to date16:36
akemAcerlotuspsychje, yes i know but i would like to keep an oldversion snapshots of the packages.16:36
akemAcerlotuspsychje, i mean i still use Windows 7 on my computers too...16:37
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akemAcerI'll try to digg this, thanks lotuspsychje.16:37
lotuspsychjeakemAcer: the way i do it is: sudo apt install program1 program2 program3 and you get a fast new fresh installed system16:37
lotuspsychje!info apt-offline | akemAcer see also16:38
ubottuakemAcer see also: apt-offline (source: apt-offline): offline APT package manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.8.1 (bionic), package size 45 kB, installed size 223 kB16:38
Squarismwhat is ther prefered way of keeping a fresh install of java 11 on ubuntu?16:38
Squarismopenjdk16:38
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akemAcerCool, i didn't know about apt-offline.16:41
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lotuspsychjeSquarism: can this help you? https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-java-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux16:45
Richard_CavellI'm on Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit.  gcc 5.4.0 is installed, but I want to get a more recent version of gcc.  How do I do that?16:55
lotuspsychje!latest | Richard_Cavell16:56
ubottuRichard_Cavell: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.16:56
gambl0r3hi guys im about to do a fresh install of kubuntu. what is the best way to install it onto my sd?16:56
black_mambaWhat is the difference between binutils-powerpc-linux-gnu and binutils-powerpc-linux-gnuspe what is this spe target?16:57
hggdhRichard_Cavell: you probably would be better off by using containers (lxd) or KVM. Usually the gcc toolkit impose some limitations on changing gcc's version16:57
gambl0r3should i install kubuntu using the entire disk, entire disk and setup LVM, entire disk and use encrypted LVM?16:58
Richard_Cavellhggdh, presently I am using VirtualBox to run 18.04  (I can't run 18.04 on this hardware but 16.04 works)17:04
YounderI got a printer working. Now I can't see the network scanner. Any ideas?17:06
Youndersorry print scanner, on a wireless network17:06
YounderAn Epson PX730WD17:08
YounderRichard_Cavell, why cant you run 18.04?17:09
Richard_CavellYounder, Because if I upgrade my distro I have this problem: https://mattgadient.com/2016/07/11/linux-dvd-images-and-how-to-for-32-bit-efi-macs-late-2006-models/17:12
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RonaldsMazitisI started dist upgrade and it could no upgrade mysql17:13
RonaldsMazitisdaamn again17:13
gambl0r3hi guys. should in install kubuntu with or without LVM?17:13
RonaldsMazitisnow I have plenty of space, like 150 gb17:13
YounderSeriously 18.04 is a bit uninspired. Like a Ubuntu version of Cent Os. I fail to see where it would fail. EXCEPT if you are running a 32 bit computer.17:13
Richard_CavellYounder, Well, I am.17:15
RonaldsMazitishttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Drm74c6ZPr/17:15
RonaldsMazitis?17:15
RonaldsMazitiswhat can I do?17:15
RonaldsMazitishttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QC8bvrgPgW/17:16
YounderNever actually encountered a mysql fail before. Did you try the mysql support?17:20
eelstreboris there a better way to do bcache instead of all this cli configuration?17:22
Younderapt-cache17:22
lordcirtheelstrebor, not that I'm aware of.  Most cool things require command line usage.  By the time they get a GUI, someone makes something cooler :P17:24
Youndersorry apt-cacher-ng17:26
YounderMy greatest discovery. It caches apt request for my entire cluster17:27
eelstreborlordcirth, the more i read the less inclined i am to implement this  even though it would be nice to get better performance17:28
lordcirthYounder, yeah, it's good.  Also, squid-deb-proxy is good if you don't want apt to break if the cache server isn't available (like on home wifi)17:28
eelstreborif only 4 TB SSD's weren't so expensive!17:29
lordcirtheelstrebor, lol.  What is your current setup?17:29
eelstreborlordcirth, i'm using an ssd for the os partitions and a hdd for the /home17:29
eelstreborthe ssd is 120 GB and the HDD is 2TB17:30
lordcirthI am considering buying 3x500GB SSDs on black friday and doing zfs raidz17:30
eelstrebori tried raid a few years ago and found it just made my life too complicated17:31
eelstrebormy mobos are raid capable though17:31
Younderlordcirth, like one of NVIDIA's personal supercomputers. In raid 0 on a bus taht can handle it it it gives a real boost.17:37
lordcirthYounder, not really concerned with boosting speed even more, just lots of SSD with fault tolerance17:38
Younderlordcirth, it triples the failure risk so you had better back up.17:39
lordcirthYounder, if I were doing raid0, yes, but I said raidz17:39
Younderlordcirth, I'd use raid 517:40
lordcirthraidz is essentially raid5, but better17:40
gambl0r3i still dont understand how i will benefit by using LVM if i dont plan on resizing my partition in the future17:40
Youndergambl0r3, who are you refering to?17:41
gambl0r3everyone17:41
gambl0r3it seems like LVM just adds more complexity17:42
Youndergambl0r3, plan on resizing your partions. Log is always to small ;)17:42
gambl0r3why would i need to resize my partition if i give it full disk space for os?17:42
lordcirthgambl0r3, did someone recommend that you use LVM?  What's your usecase?17:43
gambl0r3lordcirth, thats what im trying to figure out17:43
gambl0r3i dont plan on having multiple partitions. dont plan on resizing. so do i need lvm?17:44
lordcirthIf you are going to make a single / partition covering a whole drive, you probably don't need LVM17:44
Youndergambl0r3, the OS needs max 50 Gb. It makes sense to isolate home and /usr/local for cackup reasons. and /tmp and /var for prevention of DOS/DDOS attacks.17:44
amikropsnap store has completely replaced software center (debs)?  running older version so I don't know yet17:44
gambl0r3lordcirth, what if one day i decide i want to dual boot windows. i would then need to create two partitions. can i do this without lvm?17:44
en1gmacan someone help me resolve some issues building from source? https://pastebin.com/SZFLTRuj17:45
lordcirthamikrop, no, snap only has a few things17:45
en1gmaim on ubuntu amd64 desktop17:45
lordcirthgambl0r3, windows won't work with LVM anyway17:45
gambl0r3what do you mean?17:45
amikroplordcirth: some packages are available in software center *and* snap store?17:45
amikropboth17:45
gambl0r3i wouldnt be able to install windows if i created a new partition using lvm?17:45
lordcirthgambl0r3, do you know what LVM does?17:45
Younderen1gma, I would use a virtual machine, for everything except games17:45
gambl0r3logical volume manager. its manages your volumes17:46
Younderduh17:46
lordcirthgambl0r3, LV's are logical partitions that you can put inside LVM partitions.17:46
lordcirthWindows cannot be installed to an LV, as it does not understand LVM17:46
gambl0r3logical partitions are different from regular partiions?17:46
Younderyes17:47
en1gmanunyer@4800mq:~/SoapySDR/build$ python3 -c "import sys; print(sys.path)"17:47
en1gma['', '/usr/lib/python36.zip', '/usr/lib/python3.6', '/usr/lib/python3.6/lib-dynload', '/usr/local/lib/python3.6/dist-packages', '/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages']17:47
en1gmai think those need to be saying 3.7 not 3.617:47
gambl0r3so even if i had lvm installed i still wouldnt be able to dual boot windwos?17:47
pjsNot sure what happened but after a reboot my mic and sound stopped working. Previously I've done what TJ recommended here: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html and it's been fine. This is Ubuntu 18.04 on Thinkpad X1C617:47
lordcirthgambl0r3, you would need free space on the drive, not allocated to LVM, to install Windows.17:47
gambl0r3lordcirth, i see so i need to use some tool to divide my sd into two seperate partitions if i wanted to dual boot windows17:48
Youndergambl0r3, you can always dual boot windows, just be sure to install Windows first17:48
gambl0r3Younder, why is that?17:48
lordcirthYou can do it the other way around, you just need to fix grub after17:48
lordcirthWindows will overwrite grub with it's own bootloader17:49
gambl0r3is that hard?17:49
lordcirthNot if you make a liveusb of Boot Repair beforehand, no17:49
amikropSome packages are available in both snap store and software center?17:49
YounderUbuntu has support for installing on a machine with windows installed, but not vis versa. It is not imposible to reverse this, but much more difficult17:49
gambl0r3boot repair for ubuntu?17:49
lordcirthIf you accidentally do it and get stuck without a tool to fix it, it's kinda annoying17:49
lordcirthgambl0r3, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows17:49
lordcirthOr https://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/17:50
gambl0r3lordcirth, seems simple enough17:50
acosHowdy.  What video card is better supported? Nvidia or AMD?17:51
amikropI am asking cause, if they are, I wanted to know which source is preferable and why.17:51
gambl0r3but back to my original question. i need to create two seperate partitions for windows before i install ubuntu correct?17:51
lordcirthamikrop, I would use apt when possible17:51
lordcirthsnaps take more space17:52
gambl0r3i cant create a logical partition using lvm17:52
amikropok thanks17:52
gambl0r3and use that for windows17:52
Younderacos, NVidia17:52
lordcirthsnaps are mostly good for installing software that doesn't run on your version/distro17:52
amikropI see17:52
acosHmmm Younder thanks.17:52
gambl0r3am i correct in my understanding?17:52
acosWhat is the snap software?17:52
acosWhen did that add that junk?17:53
acosSo used to just apt17:53
Younderacos, use 'ubuntu-devices auto' to install nvidia after ubuntu insted of nuvaux17:53
amikropacos: https://snapcraft.io/17:53
acosOhhh hmm ya I have to put a video card in this pc because it is using an embedded video device.17:53
Younderacos, also look into nvidia-docker.17:54
acosUgh I dont want to do crazy stuff.  Just want drivers LOL17:55
gambl0r3hello?17:55
gambl0r3can i use gparted to create a new partition if i ever wanted to install windows?17:55
acosSince when did ubuntu become so crazy.  Gone are the days of normal pc use17:55
tchakatakgambl0r3: sure17:55
lordcirthgambl0r3, https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/configure-uefigpt-based-hard-drive-partitions17:55
YounderAppart from docker support AMD works well to and on low end graphics cards are better on GPGPU tasks17:55
lordcirthacos, not sure what you mean17:56
gambl0r3ok im gonna remove lvm. thanks guys for the help17:56
lordcirthI use Ubuntu because I can have both "normal PC use" and do cool things17:56
acosShouldn't have to use docker to run a dam video card LOL17:56
tchakataklordcirth ?17:57
Younderyou don't17:57
acosGood17:57
lordcirthGPU accel in docker is cool.  I have no use for it, but it's cool17:58
YounderFor a guy like me, who runs CAD, Steam, Vivado (FPGA programming), a C++ platform... seperating the OS into parts makes sense to prevent them from interfering with each other17:59
YounderIf your needs are simpler, don't bother17:59
Younderlordcirth, I use it for machine learning (DNN's)18:03
lordcirthMakes sense18:04
SwaggerArchhappy thanksgiving18:10
lordcirthyou too, thanks18:11
SwaggerArchnp..18:11
SwaggerArchits a slow day.. thanks18:11
HaMsTeRswell, i'm here to let you guys know:  i finally found my most love text editor Sublime Text 318:14
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SwaggerArchnano18:15
SwaggerArchvim18:15
acosNank18:16
FurretUberCan somebody test if the following bug is corrected in Cosmic Cuttlefish? I have Bionic Beaver installed and don't want to upgrade: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/179816518:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1798165 in linux (Ubuntu) "Vulkan applications cause permanent memory leak with Intel GPU" [Medium,In progress]18:17
coconutIs an /home partition on a separate ssd faster than having it on the same ssd as the rest?18:22
geniiFurretUber: Why don't you just check the mailing list online archive for cosmic-changes18:23
FurretUberI'm using the hwe-edge kernel in Bionic, which seems to be the same version from Cosmic, and it works. But I won't change to set I verified it works if I did not verify, even if the patch is simple18:24
lordcirthcoconut, if you are accessing files heavily on both simultaneously, a bit.  But SSDs are so fast for home use I doubt you'd notice18:25
coconut:)18:26
SwaggerArchjhkhjh18:31
EliteGodhello guys. does anyone know how to assign the FN to act as Shift key?18:42
bittyxhi, quick question - i'm still on xenial (16.04), and i have gnome-shell-extensions 3.18.3-2 which seems to be the latest available from the official repository: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnome-shell-extensions&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all - however, there's obviously newer versions of the software available, e.g. 3.28 for bionic or 3.30 for cosmic - is there any way for me to install any of these newer versions while18:44
bittyxremaining on xenial?18:44
lordcirthbittyx, I wouldn't recommend it.  Is upgrading to bionic a problem?18:44
bittyxlordcirth: i use this laptop for work, got a lot of software installed, and i'm afraid of being prevented from working if any issues happen during the upgrade (well in fact i'd reinstall from scratch, which is my preferred method to avoid issues as much as possible but still)18:46
bittyx(got a lot of work at the moment so can't waste time debugging my environment)18:46
bittyxso anyway, would the "correct" course of action be to find a ppa where someone maintains the gnome-shell-extensions package for 16.04 with newer versions available? (because i couldn't seem to find that at all)18:47
EliteGodbittyx never tried this, but can probably help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto18:48
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bittyxEliteGod: thanks, though that seems a bit fragile, i dunno... the root of my problem is actually the stupid gnome extensions update mechanism, where "system extensions" (ie. those bundled with gnome-shell-extensions) cannot be updated through the recommended update mechanism (ie. via your browser), because they're installed globally and require root privileges18:52
lordcirthbittyx, could you uninstall the system extensions, then install them from your browser?18:54
bittyxlordcirth: i'll take a look at how to uninstall system extensions, sounds like a good idea, thanks18:55
bittyxit's a shame though that this requires so much unproductive effort18:55
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xand_realHello18:59
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Wes-Hey, folks.  I'm trying to upgrade an old 14.04 LTS box here.  Getting 404s when I try to apt-get upgrade.  Is this version old enough that I'm going to have to wipe and reinstall from a CD?19:11
lordcirthWes-, 14.04 is still supported, and you should be able to upgrade.  However, wiping and going to 18.04 is probably safer.19:15
Wes-Hm. lsb_release says I'm running 14.04.5 LTS, which https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases says should be supported until April 2019.  *scratches head*......have the repositories moved? Am trying to fetch from ca.archive.ubuntu.com19:15
Wes-lordcirth: Yeah...was just trying to avoid that.  I just need a test box that I verify some .debs on, that don't already have all my dependencies installed.  Funny who it's the little things that always take the most time!19:16
lordcirthI don't see trusty: http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/19:17
lordcirthYou're in Canada? Try http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca19:18
Wes-lordcirth: *weird* - I just re-tried and now stuff is coming down.  I wonder if Canonical was doing maintenance or something just now?   Will try WaterlooU if this fails for sure.19:20
ahi2y19:22
lordcirthAh, trusty was there, I missed it because of an overlapping window. I'm tired19:22
Wes-:)  I feel you bro!  I appreciate you looking, I'm so tired it never crossed my mind to look with a browser.........19:22
lordcirthOne of the nice things about apt, and Linux in general, is that you can often just read the file / view the repo / telnet / etc to debug19:23
Wes-Yep... love!19:24
Wes-In hilarious unrelated news, the installer just made the machine reboot, it booted Windows 7...I didn't even know I had a Windows partition. Looks like I'm going to have to boot from external media after all, troubleshoot grub... I remember this box was a pain, I think it might be UEFI-only.19:25
lordcirthlol19:26
lordcirthWes-, this might fix it automatically: https://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/19:26
Wes-Oooh! Thanks!  *hunts for blanks*19:28
eeosAnyone who knows about a viewer for Whatsapp files on ubuntu?19:53
ikoniawhat do you mean a viewer ?19:53
ikoniathe files will open in an app that supports them19:53
eeosikonia: they are encrypted files firts of all, so, no ....19:55
ikoniaso yes19:55
ikoniajust clarify for me what do you mean by viewing what's app files19:56
ikoniaeg: are you using the whatsapp web browser interface ?19:56
eeosikonia: https://andreas-mausch.de/whatsapp-viewer/19:57
ikoniaso you need to talk to the author on that19:58
eeosikonia: something like that but for Linux19:58
eeosikonia: tat was only an example19:58
ikoniawhy dont you just use the whatsapp web interface19:58
ikoniahttps://web.whatsapp.com/19:58
eeosikonia: because I have to recover some old backups20:00
eeosikonia: for which I have the crypt key, but not the original device20:00
ikoniaeeos: not aware of anything on linux for that, I'm sure if you trawl github there will be something20:02
FurretUberI'm trying to use memleak from BCC on 4.18.0-12 but it is not working, printing "/virtual/main.c:15:1: error: could not open bpf map: Operation not permitted is maps/hash map type enabled in your kernel?". It is working with 4.15.0-4220:03
ikoniaFurretUber: there is a specific patch/version required for 4.1820:05
ikoniait's listed in the documentation20:05
discoveredI am trying to change bell sound default drip. But in sound settings changes does not apply? I am on gnome !20:10
discoveredI found /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg . But i wanted to configure it without deleting!20:11
CrazyHUbuntu 16.04, gnome calssic desktop system. I'm trying to set up vino-server so that it will start up and allow remote desktop sharing BEFORE any user is logged in. However, I'm not super familiar with the software stack that loads, X, the WM , gnome and whatever else. How would I do this? What component do I need to configure? I'm guessing that probably a one liner in the correct file in the correct place would do that job, but20:15
CrazyHwhere would that place be?20:15
ikoniaCrazyH: if you get the vino-server package there is normally a systemd init script for it that you just need to enable20:16
CrazyHI saw on the web that some people were editing a file pertaining to lightdm, but I don't think that applies to me?20:16
CrazyHikonia, vino came installed by default on my system, so how would I deal with that? apt-get install vino-server ( or something similar? )20:17
ikoniaCrazyH: systemctl list-unit-file --type=service20:18
ikoniasee if there is a startup script for it20:18
CrazyHUnknown operation list-unit-file.20:18
ikonias20:19
ikoniaunit-files20:19
CrazyHikonia, sorry, none of those commands were valid20:20
howudodatjust curious if anyone knows of a ppa for libguestfs that has newer than 1.36 (repo version for ubuntu 18.04)20:21
ikoniaCrazyH: systemctl list-unit-fies20:21
ikoniathat is valid20:21
ikonia--type=service is also valid20:21
ikonia(as an argument)20:22
CrazyHikonia, ok, that worked. It gave me a huge list of services. What am I looking for? I didn't see anything obvious while look for "vino"20:23
ikoniaCrazyH: maybe the package no longer has an init and has to be called via the greeter as you suggeted you'd read the web earlier20:24
CrazyHikonia, that leads to my initial question. Where does that happen? I know VERY little about the graphical interface stack :-/20:25
CrazyHall I know is that I'm running ubuntu 16.04 gnome classic desktop20:26
ikoniaCrazyH: so lightdm is the greeter20:26
ikoniaCrazyH: so you need to look at the lightdm config (I suspect the docs you're reading online on this will give you a ball park on where to start - then you can ask specific questions)20:26
ikoniaif the docs are not for the same ubuntu version are you are using, if in doubt, ask20:27
CrazyHthanks! :-) I'll look into it20:28
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FurretUberikonia: where is this version or documentation? I didn't find it20:29
ikoniaFurretUber: in the readme on the git site20:30
ikoniasorry the install file20:30
ikonianot readme20:30
TJ-CrazyH: Display Manager (e.g: lightdm) -> greeter (e.g:lightdm-greeter-gtk) -> session (e.g: ubuntu-desktop). The DM controls the X server20:31
deadromhi20:31
CrazyHTJ-, so for starting up vino server on boot up ( but with no loging ), would I want to run that using a hook in the greeter?20:32
deadromlaptop/nvidia, attached a new display, does 3840x1600@30Hz. display can do up to 75Hz, but how to tell it? I calc'ed cvt for that mode but it won't show up in xrandr after --newmode / --addmode20:33
TJ-CrazyH: I'd think it'd need to be started by the DM to hook into the X server before the greeter20:33
ikoniaTJ-: a basic google shows multiple ways to do this (all a bit weak on the explination if I'm honest) some show it being loaded by the X server, some show it being loaded by the greeter as an "export" of a running display, which from what I can read is because a lot of distro moved to wayland for the greeter20:35
TJ-CrazyH: As far as I'm aware vino is integrated with Gnome, and is only usuable after log-in. You might need something like x11vnc for access to the greeter20:36
TJ-ikonia: I haven't seen any mention of VNC support for a wayland compositor, have you?20:37
ikoniaTJ-: nope, hence why it has to be launched after it - again the docs on these threads don't seem strong on factual reasons for this20:38
CrazyHTJ-, well, the one exmple that I found did mention x11vnc. CAn I still access that with remmina?20:41
akemVino is too slow here, unusable i suggest try x11vnc if you have troubles. It's much faster but it crashes sometimes...i got it to run in a loop so it restarts automaticly in such case.20:41
akemYou can access it with any regular vnc client.20:42
TJ-CrazyH: x11vnc uses the VNC protocol; you can access it with any VNC client20:42
TJ-ikonia: the reasons are architectural; the only way to do work with a wayland compositor currently, last time I checked, was to insert an interposer (which implies losing GPU hardware acceleration of GL). The other option isn't technically feasibly as yet due to design decisions of wayland, and lack of the required support on the proprietary drivers.20:44
ikoniaTJ-: I'm not a real world user of "remote" desktop services, so bow to you on that20:45
CrazyHI'm currently reading this. It's for unbuntu 15.04, but it looks reasonable: http://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=898420:45
TJ-Wayland was designed to expect hardware to write to; there's no way to proxy the writes to a remote display20:46
TJ-ikonia: me neither; I use ssh, but I read the technical discussions occassionally and the code20:46
TJ-ikonia: like yesterday, I had to use a PC 25 miles away to write an audio CD. "ssh -Y k3b" :)20:47
ikoniaTJ-: yeah, sadly, it's just not in my use case20:47
TJ-^^^ that was the first time I've used "ssh -X/Y" ! - everything else I do is in a shell20:48
TJ-but it was quickler that trying to figure out the correct way to invoke cdrskin... although later I figured that out too!20:49
SubstringHello.I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 with unity, i have lost application menu. Like here in hexchat, i can't edit preferences. Anyone got a solution ?20:50
TJ-ikonia: the hardest part was getting an admin assistant at the remote office to find a CD-R and put it in the PC's disc tray... their first attempt they managed to use a DVD-R so had to get someone else to do it20:50
Substringfresh install by the way20:50
shukeroHello everyone, I'm having a very weird issue with lockscreen and sleep options. Can someone help me?21:09
shukeroHi everyone, Whenever I close the lid of my laptop, my computer goes into "sleep" mode, and when I open the lid back up, it displays my lockscreen.21:12
shukeroSorry, let me rephrase with the question I have in a single statement21:13
shukeroHi everyone, Whenever I close the lid of my laptop, my computer goes into "sleep" mode, and when I open the lid back up, it displays my lockscreen. MY ISSUE IS: I have "lockscreen" turned off, and I have the "#handlelidswitch=ignore" so I need to know why this is happening and how I can fix it so that the lockscreen goes away and my computer doesn't do anything when I close my lid. Can someone help me?21:15
CrazyHTJ-, well, x11vnc seems to be up and running at boot up now, but for some reason remmina is having trouble connecting to it properly. Everything seems fine, it finds the connection, asks for the password, then remmina just craps out, drops the connection and hangs up. I don't know why yet21:21
shukeroHello everyone, I have lockscreen and sleep turned off in my control panel settings; but for some reason when I close my lid, my computer goes to sleep and the lockscreen meets me when I turn it back on. How do I keep these two things off?21:21
TJ-CrazyH: check the logs at both ends for the service(s)21:22
CrazyHTJ-,  x11vnc.log says --> rfbProcessClientNormalMessage: read: Connection reset by peer21:22
CrazyHTJ-, does remmina even have log files? I can't find one so far21:26
CrazyHawesome... it also has a completely useless man page...21:29
throwthecheeseCan somebody help me with UIM? I compiled UIM with Anthy support, but Anthy does not appear in the drop-down menu21:32
CrazyHTJ-, well, I got vncviwer to work. I guess I'll just go with that21:37
fuxachesI'm duplicating a ubuntu 18.04.1 machine to eventually replace my aging one... I have pretty much everything setup and working - except Postfix. I use it for mailing php forms. I went through the postfix main.cf file and compared it to my working config and it's identical except for the computer name which is expected. Any help would be appreciated. I don't think it is a postfix issue...21:41
Platonideshow does it not work?21:42
Platonidessorry for the obvious, but you have started postfix, right?21:42
fuxachesmail is not sending21:42
fuxachesyes  - started21:43
fuxachesi added the mail utilities to try and send a message from command line but no go21:43
fuxachesthe line executes but i never receive the email21:43
fuxachesnot a complicated setup neither... I am just using Shaw's smart host address to relay21:45
fuxacheshmmm, when I try to telnet localhost it says connection refused.... Yet UFW is not running21:48
imihi21:58
Haunted330imi we are closed. Sorry21:58
imiwhat do you mean?21:58
imiwas it a joke?21:58
Haunted330Our hours are M-F 6am-10pm, Saturday and Sunday 8am-4pm. Except we operate on weekend hours on major holidays, Christmas Eve, and New Years Eve. We are closed Easter Sunday, Thanksgiving Day, and Christmas Day. Nobody is allowed inside any channels outside of hours other than security.21:58
Haunted330sorry, man21:59
imilol ok21:59
Haunted330but you will have to leave21:59
imihappy thanksgiving to you. here in Europe we don't celebrate thanksgiving. Anyhow I have a question. Feel free not to answer then: what's the difference between virtualbox-quest-x11-hwe and virtualbox-quest-x11 ?22:01
TJ-imi: "hwe" implies it comes from the HardWare Enablement stack - a more recent kernel/xorg22:02
Haunted330hey guys, we are closed. you will have to leave22:02
TJ-!hwe | imi22:02
ubottuimi: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack22:02
Haunted330unless you are security22:02
TJ-Haunted330: stop it please22:03
Haunted330even ops are not allowed in here while closed unless they are security22:03
imiHaunted330: letmein' or 1==1 -- there you go22:03
Haunted330no guys, it is my job to make sure nobody comes in when we are closed22:03
imiin case of 17.10 host and 18.04 guest should I go with hwe or not?22:04
TJ-imi: it depends on whether you are running the guest with the HWE stack, or not22:05
imiin case of a vanilla install, do I?22:06
Haunted330Guys, we are closed. You will have to leave.22:06
Haunted330ok, all of you coming in, we are closed, you have to leave.22:08
roraclehey guys, need some help here: just installed PlayOnLinux and when I start it up, it looks like this https://imgur.com/a/RSTfFT922:08
Haunted330sorry, we are closed22:09
roraclethis has never happened before, but this is a fresh install22:09
Haunted330we will reopen tomorrow at 6am22:09
roracleeh? lol22:09
Haunted330you will have to leave22:09
roracleno, you leave first22:09
Sir_AndreiHi ppl22:09
Haunted330I am security22:09
Haunted330so no I dont leave22:10
roracleI am security22:10
Haunted330no youre not22:10
Sir_AndreiI'm installing Lubuntu 18.04.1 on a PC and I am trying not to do such a mess with partitions.22:10
Haunted330Our hours are M-F 6am-10pm, Saturday and Sunday 8am-4pm. Except we operate on weekend hours on major holidays, Christmas Eve, and New Years Eve. We are closed Easter Sunday, Thanksgiving Day, and Christmas Day.22:10
Haunted330You all have to leave22:10
Sir_AndreiThe situation is: I have Windows 8 and Fedora installed.22:10
Haunted330Only security is allowed here outside of business hours22:10
Haunted330sorry22:10
roracleHaunted330: this is IRC22:10
Sir_AndreiWhen I installed Fedora i let it make it own partition automagically.22:10
Haunted330I am well aware of what this is22:11
Sir_AndreiIt worked, but well, im moving to Ubuntu.22:11
roracleand not everyone celebrates those holidays22:11
Haunted330well, I just do what they instruct me to22:11
Haunted330that is what they pay me for22:11
Sir_AndreiFedora created something that appear on Lubuntu installer as /dev/mapper (I'm modifying partitions manually).22:11
Haunted330I need my job22:11
Haunted330so I need to enforce the orders22:11
Sir_AndreiMy question is: It's safe to remove /dev/mapper partitions?22:11
Sir_AndreiIdk what they are.22:11
roraclebut you aren't in a position to enforce anything...22:12
Haunted330come back tomorrow at 6am22:12
Haunted330roracle I am channel security22:12
roracleyou come back tomorrow at 6am22:12
Haunted330no, my shift is now22:12
TJ-Sir_Andrei: /dev/mapper/ is where device-mapper devices for LVM and crypt devices and other are collected22:12
TJ-Haunted330: Stop. Now22:12
Haunted330my shift goes till 8pm tonight22:12
Sir_AndreiHaunted330: Can u stop with that sh*t?22:12
roraclethank you22:12
Haunted330guys,22:12
Sir_AndreiThere is people with real problems here you mothe...22:12
Sir_AndreiTJ, thx.22:12
Haunted330we can help tomorrow22:12
TJ-Sir_Andrei: please, just ignore it, and mind your language22:12
Sir_AndreiWell, It's safe to remove them?22:13
roracleHaunted330: you have no say, you don't have a hammer, so deal with it22:13
Haunted330no, you are in my channel22:13
TJ-Sir_Andrei: you don't 'remove' nodes under /dev/mapper/ - they represent active devices22:13
Haunted330I am in charge of this channel today during my shift22:13
Sir_AndreiEven with GParted TJ?22:13
Sir_AndreiThey doesn't are partitions actually?22:13
TJ-Sir_Andrei: these are not partitions, they are logical devices22:14
roraclewhew, easier to just ignore the guy lol.  i'm glad you're responsive TJ- because my issue is strange... https://imgur.com/a/RSTfFT922:14
roracleit's just POL that is doing this22:14
Sir_AndreiYea, well, I can't remove them with Gparted.22:14
Haunted330everybody has to leave now except for security22:15
TJ-Sir_Andrei: if there is an LVM logical volume there you can deactivate it with "vgchange -an VGNAME" where VGNAME is the part before the hyphen in a /dev/mapper/vg-lv name22:15
roracleSir_Andrei: i have 0mb partitions that came up when i installed, and it's never happened before on any other distro, it was odd22:15
roraclelike, between each partition i made for my linux install, it put in 0mb partitions in the hard drive setup22:16
Haunted330everybody including those who just came in, we are closed today, you will have to leabe22:16
Haunted330*leave22:16
Sir_AndreiOk, that make sense @TJ, I'll deactivate that little girls first.22:17
TJ-roracle: I have no idea what PlayOnLinux is supposed to do22:17
Haunted330We are closed, you all will have to leave22:18
roracleit's a frontend for WINE, it is meant to install the best compatible version of WINE for the program you're installing22:18
daxHaunted330: let's not be silly in the support channel, thanks22:18
roracleand it can use multiple instances, so it's really helpful22:18
Haunted330dax please do not tell me what to do22:18
roracledax: just /ignore him22:18
roracledax: he's been like this since i got here22:19
Haunted330I am the security on duty22:19
daxHaunted330: don't do silly things and I won't tell you what to do. now, settle down and be both friendly and non-confusing22:19
srulijust installed keep getting "/bin/mount: Failed exit code 32" i get it when trying to mount anything, ext4 volumes' ecryptfs, even update-grub has this error in output22:19
Haunted330dax, you are forgetting that I am the security user on duty22:19
daxHaunted330: good, then you'll know what a security badge looks like22:19
Haunted330not that kind of security22:20
daxHaunted330: now, are you done?22:20
srulijust installed 18.04 ^22:20
Haunted330I am not sworn in22:20
Haunted330I do not have apprehension rights22:20
Platonidesthat was funny, dax :)22:20
TJ-dax: thankyou!22:20
roracledax: wow, good job22:22
TJ-sruli: how do you manage it!?22:25
sruliTJ-: dont kick a man when he down22:26
sruliTJ-: been faffing around all day reducing my lv partition sizes to make place for 18.04 install now i am trying to mount the old lv root, it mounts but this error is driving me crazy, i cant get ecryptfs-recover-private to mount22:28
TJ-sruli: aha, so you've changed sizes? sounds like you've broken file-system somewhere22:28
fuxachesissue with duplicating postfix on a new machine using ubuntu 18.04 only difference is working machine was installed 18.04.0 then upgraded to 18.04.1 the new machine with postfix not working was installed originally on 18.04.1  - both desktop versions22:29
sruliTJ-: no, it gives me same error when mounting other drives that i havnt touched, still mounts and contents are readable22:29
sruliTJ-: googling for this exit code only returns results for cifs,samba & nfs mounts22:30
fuxachesi can telnet in fine, but smtp will not send an email...22:30
sruliTJ-: sudo -i also throws this error code22:31
qsrmvtOk, this is likely a dumb question, but how do I set the Mate login to show more than just the initial user?22:33
fuxachescan someone help with a ubuntu 18.04 desktop install using postfix to send php form mail not working on one machine, yet fine on another php and postfix configs are the same... ?22:34
Sir_Andrei@TJ, confirmed, there is a logical volume22:34
Sir_AndreiBut then, how I know its name?22:34
TJ-sruli: I'd guess the mount wrapper is getting error code 32 returned by one of its file-system-specific  helpers22:34
Sir_AndreiI'm seeing it with GParted.22:34
TJ-sruli: you're executing /bin/mount in the new 18.04 installation?22:35
sruliTJ-:  no just mount22:35
roracleyeah i think i need to be running 18.04, because i'm using 18.10 and things just aren't running properly with WINE :\22:36
TJ-sruli: right, but that should be /bin/mount because it is searched on PATH ("which mount")22:40
sruliTJ-: found the culprit...22:41
roraclealright, going to install the lts release, might switch to Kubuntu for it, too.  gaw, it's hard to use Linux these days :\22:42
roraclelike it was getting easier and easier, then bam, everything changed22:42
Emjay79hello, I've a problem with my Dell Venue 10 pro 5056, I can't hear nothing. Can someone help me?22:42
sruliTJ-: in my pam.d/common-session i added a line "session optional pam_exec.so /bin/mount /path/to /path/1" removed that and problem is gone, not sure why that is22:42
Emjay79I've 18.10 installed22:43
sruliTJ-: will try to ecryptfs-recover-private now, hope it works22:43
guiver_dEmjay79: i probably can't help, but has sound ever worked (if not I'd suggest you `lshw -C sound` to list-hardware class=sound to see what is recognized)22:49
Sir_Andrei@TJ, done.22:53
Sir_AndreiI'd read docs about that topic.22:53
Sir_AndreiMy first time dealing with LVM.22:53
Sir_Andreilvremove over fedora and now it's gone.22:53
imianother question: how do I enable vmx/svm in a virtualbox guest?22:58
Platonidesyou usually can't use virtualization extensions inside a VM23:00
Platonidesas they are used by the hypervisor23:00
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imiPlatonides: I managed to do so under vmware (so it's possible after all) but now I want to do so under virtualbox23:04
Platonidesodd23:09
TJ-nested virtualisation is a useful tool23:09
Platonidesmaybe VMWare is actually doing it in software23:09
TJ-QEMU/KVM supports it too23:09
Platonidessure, but the hardware must support that23:10
TJ-imi: "Nested AMD-V is functional (although not feature complete). Nested VT-x is still work-in-progress. Hence no major announcement was made. "  https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/403223:10
PCatineanHey guys, I'm reading this documentation page https://github.com/rook/rook/blob/master/Documentation/ceph-cluster-crd.md and on the device filter it says: A regular expression that allows selection of devices to be consumed by OSDs. If individual devices have been specified for a node then this filter will be ignored. This field uses golang regular expression syntax. For example:23:18
PCatineanwhat does devices mean any way? I have extra hard drives mounted in /dev/disk/by-id/random-stuff-here23:19
jamin667Happy thanksgiving Ubuntu! :)23:47
jamin667I installed Ubuntu with disk encryption via the installer. Now I'm trying to mount that disk on a different PC to retrieve some files. Is there a documented process for that?23:48
jamin667I've tried "sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdf5 crypthome" and it asks for a passphrase, but it errors out when i give it the passphrase. It says, "No key available with this passphrase."23:52

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