[22:35] not a very active channel [22:36] unfortunately not [22:37] Do you reside in Seattle? [22:37] an hour out [22:37] south? im pierce [22:37] I tried to lead the group after Linda stepped back [22:37] but it's difficult from so far out [22:37] I live in Black Diamond [22:37] I bet she has to many things in life [22:37] where are you in Pierce [22:38] well, she now has young children, yeah [22:38] I heard BD approved a large housing developent. [22:38] oh yes [22:38] must suck [22:38] we're being surrounded by houses now, instead of trees [22:38] :( [22:38] sucks [22:38] indeed [22:39] I mean, I drove to SeaGL daily this year and it wasn't too bad [22:39] I left Canada a few years ago..same thing in the GVRV massive development in all cities traffic was getting horrid [22:39] but .... [22:39] I started on linux in 97 [22:39] I wouldn't mind moving back to the Seattle or at least closer; my kids live there [22:39] then was hired as a contractor in 1998 by Microsoft in the w2K group [22:40] ahh [22:40] but my husband won't be moved without some sticks of dynomite [22:40] sure [22:40] you had an earlier start than i [22:40] only way to control a city is be on the seat as a counselor or mayor [22:40] I think I first ran linux in 2001 [22:40] yes...i do not know how I started. I started with centos [22:41] although I was already running as much FOSS software as possible in Win [22:41] Foss? [22:41] Mandrake was my first [22:41] free and open source software [22:41] ohh [22:41] yes [22:42] It was a interesting start to my IT career but I also hate it because its always contract [22:42] but I've been on kubuntu for many years [22:42] Should have considred something else like medical [22:42] now the release manager [22:42] :) [22:42] * valorie never worked in IT [22:42] not a coder [22:42] so you are the release manager? [22:42] yep [22:43] nice [22:43] I met a guy in Vancouver who made his own kernel [22:43] man that guy was always upset and intense [22:43] I got his name wrong and he look like he wanted to belt me [22:44] but thats in the past [22:44] to me, software is tools [22:44] not religion [22:44] I am a intj .i tried learning coding but...I get bored. [22:44] I use FOSS when possible but will use other stuff when necessary [22:44] I am not a INTP personality [22:45] INTJ so more of a problem solver on a larger scale. I am also...obsolete in the windows arena. [22:45] Do you see kubuntu used in private industry? [22:45] dunno [22:46] Okay [22:46] there are lots of small groups using it [22:46] sure [22:46] I use mint [22:46] ubunto [22:46] It works on my panasonic laptop [22:46] thing is....ff keeps trashing after for windows are open [22:46] crashing [22:46] for instance, in Taiwan, a guy is getting all the government offices to use his Kubuntu fork [22:47] with Libreoffice all set up for them [22:47] nice [22:47] a guy I met in northern India is doing the same in Assam [22:47] sure [22:47] various schools, etc. [22:48] I powered off centos 150 times without closing the os never corrupted or crashed. [22:49] built several asterisk boxes running polycome phone [22:50] so do you sell it as a service? [22:52] sell what as a service? [22:52] kubunto ie, consulting [22:53] no, I'm retired [22:53] I don't need the money and I don't want to work for anyone who can tell me what/when to do some work [22:54] I agree [22:54] Wish i was retired but I do not think it will ever happen [22:56] there are no paid devels in Kubuntu [22:57] most of the flavors have no paid devels [22:58] I would say that very few distros have any paid positions [22:59] any more. We used to [23:01] I see [23:03] packaging has gotten much more automated now [23:03] and with better continuous integration systems, more autotesting [23:04] everything is just better [23:04] with much less work required [23:37] I see