[00:00] The misses is threatening to pull the main fuse in the house now tho, it's 1AM here ^^ Big thanks to you tho! [00:01] Have a great night everyone! I'm gona sleep so good now that this is resolved haha. [00:01] DoXiD: g'night... midnight here, I'll escape now too! [00:02] *waves* /zz === daniel is now known as Guest19834 [00:03] I've been trying to change 18.04 Desktop to use systemd-networkd using netplan, rather than NetworkManager but it doesn't receive broadcasts (the most annoying consequence being no ARP requests, so I have to ping a client from the machine before the client can ping back). I've searched online for hours and confirm subnets are OK, same driver is in use, permissions OK on .network file, etc. What am I missing? :( [00:04] timmi92: that sounds extremely weird [00:06] any network guru's in the house [00:07] timmi92: is it ethernet wired, or wireless? [00:08] TJ-: yeah very weird, it's wireless. I've posted a bunch of configuration info on askubuntu here if that's helpful: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1095566/18-04-desktop-doesnt-receive-arp-requests-when-configured-with-netplan-and-netw [00:09] timmi92: why can't you use Network Manager? [00:11] TJ-: I guess I can haha, I just started following guides for DHCP & DNS which used networkd instead, then when it didn't work it just motivated more investigation [00:12] I dislike how on my Ubuntu 18.10 machine that pressing shift-ctl-ctab doesn't quickly jump me to the tab on the left. [00:12] timmi92: OK, In your AU you say "... | askubuntu here if that's helpful: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1095566/18-04-deskto [00:12] │ [00:12] blow! [00:12] timmi92: you say "... created /network/interfaces/config.yaml ..." [00:13] timmi92: is that path correct? should that be "/etc/netplan/config.yaml" ? [00:14] TJ-: you're good! that's a typo, it's at /etc/netplan/config.yaml [00:14] timmi92: also in the systemd-networkd /run/systen/network/10-netplan-wlp3s0.network you've got "Name=w1p3s0" <--- notice that says 'w1' (one) not 'wl' eL [00:15] i have a cloud base vpn server configured, i'd also like to configure it as a dns server? [00:15] timmi92: did you not copy-paste that? [00:16] timmi92: when it is having problems, run "ip link show; ip addr show; ip route show" [00:19] TJ-: damn, that's another typo I didn't copy-paste. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gB8wbqvGS6/ [00:21] timmi92: you notice there is no default route [00:23] timmi92: are the clients in the 192.168.135.0/24 sub-net ? [00:24] timmi92: I've seen this kind of thing recently, and it was caused by flakey Cisco APs [00:24] TJ-: oh there's another typo in my static netplan - 193 instead of 192. Yep all in that subnet. I'm going to switch back to dhcp, goodness knows what else I've mis-typed. I noticed after that post that networkctl shows 'configuring' status on that interface, but when I stop NetworkManager and restart systemd-networkd, that shows [00:25] TJ-: 'configured' instead. I wasn't able to disable NetworkManager completely though via systemctl disable [00:25] timmi92: "sudo systemctl mask network-manager.service [00:27] timmi92: also, one command I forgot you'll find useful: "ip neigh show" [00:30] TJ-: will try mask. Also it's a cheap TP-Link AP [00:31] timmi92: if the interface is getting a DHCP lease, but not seeing ARP requests, that suggests some issue with the wireless link [00:33] timmi92: have you confirmed that systemd is connecting using the same frequency, especially if the AP offers dual-band [00:34] timmi92: I'm wondering if you've got problems due to how NM and networkd handle wpa_supplicant [00:34] I have a Ubuntu server. A process is crashing. "Aborted (core dumped)". All I want to do is see the core dump. How do I do that. [00:34] I've read everything I can find on Apport and ulimit and w/e. [00:35] erisco: if there is a crash captured it'd be in /var/crash/ [00:35] well, there is nothing there [00:36] TJ-: Yes same frequency, and two win 10 machines on different frequencies can still reach each other. I did sudo systemctl mask network-manager.service and restarted but systemctl status NetworkManager still shows active (running) [00:38] TJ-: if I do systemctl stop NetworkManager and systemctl restart systemd-networkd, clear my windows ARP cache and ping the ubuntu machine it works. [00:38] timmi92: do you have a "ls -l /etc/systemd/system/network-manager.service -> /dev/null" [00:39] timmi92: right, so you've got systemd-networkd and NM fighting over controlling the wifi :) [00:39] timmi92: masking a unit simply creates a symlink to /dev/null for the unit in /etc/systemd/system/ [00:40] TJ-: yep just double checked and I have network-manager.service -> /dev/null [00:40] timmi92: in which case network-manager should not be able to start at all [00:40] TJ-: silly question... but is network-manager and NetworkManager the same thing? [00:41] timmi92: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Nov 2 19:06 network-manager.service -> NetworkManager.service [00:42] TJ-: ok cool, so I just need to disable NM, which is already disabled haha [00:42] TJ-: yet runs... [00:42] timmi92: what does "systemctl status network-manager" show ? [00:43] so if there should be a log in /var/crash and there isn't, why would a crash not be captured? [00:44] oh damn there it is finally, in the same directory I ran the program in [00:44] timmi92: "sudo systemctl mask NetworkManager-dispatcher.service" [00:44] TJ-: Loaded: masked (/dev/null; bad), Active: inactive (dead) [00:44] enabling apport must have finally worked [00:44] now why I decided to cat it is beyond me [00:44] timmi92: and possibly "sudo systemctl mask NetworkManager-wait-online.service" [00:45] erisco: right, apport collects in /var/crash/ but regular crash-dumps are written (only if there is permission to write) into the directory the process ran from [00:46] TJ-, well it wasn't doing it initially, and then I did a lot of stuff trying to enable crash reporting [00:46] and I guess somewhere along the line it started working [00:48] erisco: firstly /etc/security/limits.conf for '$USER {soft,hard} core {0,1}' [00:49] that was ulimit which I said, I think [00:49] TJ-: it works! required all three to be masked [00:50] erisco: right, that's the other one, often set via /etc/profile.d/... [00:50] timmi92: so they were arguing [00:51] TJ-: do you know why they would've been fighting over the interface? I understood setting up networkd in netplan and removing the NM netplan would do the trick [00:52] timmi92: not sure, but I suspect you have a residual static config in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ [00:52] TJ-: and when I did that, nm-gnome showed the interface as unmanaged from memory [00:52] TJ-: oh of course! that is still there [00:53] timmi92: there you go then :D [00:53] TJ-: so in theory, I could remove the config from /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ and unmask NM and my understanding would be correct. Although there's no need for this if I don't need NM of course. [00:54] TJ-: my understanding that nm will leave it alone [00:59] TJ-: thanks so much for your help, I spent an embarrassing number of hours trying to figure it out. How do I refer to the irc log when I answer the AU? [01:06] timmi92: no need to, just self-answer [01:09] TJ-: thanks again! I will certainly be back to hopefully return the favour to others [01:10] Hi, some time ago I messed up my dpkg and now I get a warning message like: 'files list file for package 'X' missing; assuming package has no files currently installed'. How can I recompile the information again? [01:10] Does anyone here ever used MacOs? [01:10] /used/use [01:11] I noticed that the default keyboard shortcuts in macos are more optimal than in ubuntu [01:12] on the mac you have 'cmd' 'alt' 'shift' 'ctrl' [01:12] but not one key is mapped to dumb app switcher, as in ubuntu [01:12] so on macos, you can 4x3x2x1 combinations [01:12] but on ubuntu only 3x2x1 combinations [01:13] (because one key is hijacked by that menu item, in ubuntu) [01:42] Can I expect a Ubuntu-oriented GTK theme to work on official flavors? (what CAN'T I expect this behavior of?) [01:43] does anyone here know how to find your HexChat logs on ubuntu? === [ghost] is now known as ghostboarder [01:49] QuirkyCarla, open settings > logging, standard would be .config/hexchat/logs iirc [01:51] yes, under the home directory (hidden) unless otherwise. === Tin__man is now known as Tin_man [01:58] thaks [01:58] thanks* [02:19] is there such thing as a multi architecture installation, or any crafty way to achieve it using a common home directory [02:22] Sterist: some links - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultiarchSpec , https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO , maybe also https://askubuntu.com/questions/3446/how-to-create-and-administer-multi-architecture-ppas/3455 [02:23] isn't a PPA a repository / package host server? [02:23] been a while, I may be mistaken. [02:25] PPA is a personal package archive (not a respository; it's up to you to verify the author can be trusted, supports your distro etc..) - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PPA [02:26] all the audits/steps/checks made before things make it to a repository are NOT done for PPA's - it's up to the user/owner of the PPA to do it.. (personal!) [02:28] my idea was to set up my new external hdd with an Ubuntu installation for each architecture but share the same /home mount point, so regardless of what it's connected to it would boot, and always utilize a same personal space [02:29] I'm going to set this aside though. perhaps another day [02:29] what has that to do with PPA? (ppa is a 3rd party place to get software, like you do a repository; not on your local machine) [02:31] the link you had provided was regarding a PPA server [02:31] yes you can share /home partition; I've done it before; however decided it was more hassle than it was worth (if you have different versions of software being used; they can make changes that make the other version claim it's invalid.. i had issues with evolution when one using shared $HOME was updated, the other wasn't running much much older software).. i share specific folders only now, not all of /home [02:31] but that's okay, no worries :) [02:32] and yeah I see what you mean [02:32] yeah sorry, I concentrated on the multi-architecture .. [02:32] I'm trying to get talk/talkd to work, but can't even between users on the same machine. Google > change /etc/inetd.conf, but still no joy. Does anyone know what to do? [02:42] I was reading the hexchat documentation and it suggested a particular gtk theme as an example that seemed to fit my needs pretty well. https://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/appearance.html#gtk-theme Now I can't for the life of me successfully do apt-get update except with the --allow-unauthenticated option and I can't figure out how to clear this key out to make it work again [02:43] I've already discovered apt-key del but [02:43] it says it isn't signed at all so [02:44] I don't care about this specific theme! I just want to get it out and move on [02:48] in /etc/apt/sources.list there's not even an antry for it! ugh! [02:52] Gigabitten, does this help? https://askubuntu.com/questions/604988/how-to-remove-a-apt-key-which-i-have-added [02:53] the nuclear rm bit in particular [02:55] fassl: YES! I couldn't get the sig of the relevant key to show up with just apt-key list [02:57] oh so the sudo did it then?= [02:57] this is an rsa2048 key, uh, do I put that big long string of hex into apt-key del? [02:58] no clue, this one guy just deleted the file it seems [02:59] lol [02:59] okay, pouring the expired rsa key into apt-key delete didn't work [03:02] try to just put in some first few characters which would already make it distinct in your particular case [03:03] no dice [03:04] but this relatively nuclear option does seem promising [03:05] ooh that's bad === zanshin_ is now known as zanshin [03:05] * fassl hides [03:05] lol it's ok [03:06] has anyone got Wickr Me to work on Ubuntu 18.10 ? [03:06] grepping for Horst (which should show up in anything relevant to this) doesn't provide any results... [03:06] Wait! Finally, something! It's here in /etc/apt/sources.list.d [03:08] and it's not in /etc/apt/sources.list [03:08] uh, that means I should be able to take it out of sources.list.d and things would work... .... right? [03:09] wait [03:09] this is a directory [03:09] wtf [03:09] no wonder I couldn't edit it in emacs [03:09] WHY CAN YOU OPEN A DIRECTORY IN EMACS [03:09] remove the file from this dir and do apt update [03:10] why wouldn't you can! :P [03:10] phew [03:10] that worked [03:10] emacs is an os nevertheless, i heard [03:11] *read [03:11] thanks for the tangentially helpful link [03:11] can you seriously use emacs as an os [03:11] that's uh [03:11] terrifying? [03:11] exhilerating? [03:11] idk [03:11] it was the first hit on google when searching for force remove apt key or something, cannot remember was already 10 minutes ago [03:11] damn it [03:12] "force remove apt key" is such good search terms [03:12] +1 [03:12] my google-fu is not very good [03:12] lol [03:12] like "force peace" or something, one would not think of that [03:13] someday I will learn the arts of the google fu masters, that it is not the crazy syntax constructs, but simply good keywords that get you the right result [03:14] is this on this server [03:14] +karma fassl [03:14] or whatever [03:15] fassl++ [03:15] whatever [03:16] you did good, thanks [03:16] thaha np, glad it helped though [03:17] for sure. keep up the awesome work! === deathonater is now known as Smeef [03:27] hi all. is there a way to get network-manager-l2tp in cosmic (18.10)? [03:28] Gigabitten, i dont work here, i just hang out ;) TJ- is like _the_ supporter here from what i can tell, if anything, thank him [03:28] nevermind, they were nice enough to roll it into the main repos! [03:29] Gigabitten, because if he (?) would have been here, he would have helped [03:30] so what'd i do wrong here? https://tinyurl.com/ycxtuosw hw info at http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8ShhhdJsr5/ [03:38] fassl: actually, tj was the one who helped me diagnose an issue I had where my efi files had to be "trusted" in order to work! heh, that was just a few days ago === [1]MrMobius is now known as MrMobius [03:50] My mouse stopped working after a reboot (Logitech G502). It works fine in windows though. Doing lsusb I see it listed and xinput shows the mouse attached. If I attach a different mouse (wireless) the cursor moves [03:51] Gigabitten, nice, i wouldnt expect anything else, let thy executables be blessed by the lord [03:51] lord being a placeholder for whatever you might put in there [03:51] *good things [03:57] Hmm plugging the keyboard (both mice are plugged into the keyboard's hub) into a different usb port seemed to have fixed the issue which is quite odd [04:16] i can just think of udev rules maybe not applying because it is a different port === capella|away is now known as capella [04:29] I have a new asus motherboard and I need to install drivers for ethernet and audio, but I can't find the drivers online + the additional drivers tab shows me that there is nothing to install. I am checking for proprietary drivers. I'm using 16.04 [05:40] I'm trying to get talk/talkd to work, but can't even between users on the same machine. Google > change /etc/inetd.conf, but still no joy. Does anyone know what to do? [05:43] How can I change the shortcuts for copy, paste, select all etc in Ubuntu gnome? I am searching with dconf-editor but can't find these keybindings === capella is now known as capella|away [06:18] hello, I have a quick question. (accidentally asked this in the unreg channel before) There is a fix I need in jdk8 191. I see it is in debian experimental currently. Does that generally mean it will end up in the ubuntu repos soon? I wasn't really sure how that worked. [06:18] jorian, not necessarily. [06:19] ah, gotcha. I guess in that case, is there anyway to find out if that fix will make it into 18.04? [06:19] few if any debian experimental packages are available in ubuntu repos. if you truly need the latest/greatest/shiny packages, consider compiling from source [06:19] also, the pacakge may/may not be brought into backports [06:21] cfhowlett, is there a simple way to set your system up so no binary packages gets installed but everything is built from source ? [06:21] wha ... why ... errr, yes? [06:21] linux from scratch project would do that, I think [06:22] 100% of the packages for my system is built wrong with the exception of the kernel [06:22] there is a distro for that i think [06:22] "wrong" means ... ? [06:22] i wish [06:22] or use gentoo, probably about 1 tree worth of carbon emissions for every emerge world [06:22] no bootloader [06:22] re GenToo [06:23] that's not wrong, that means the user didn't select/configure the bootloader at install [06:23] cfhowlett, wrong as in ppc as opposed to ppc64 [06:23] ohhhhh taht [06:23] yaboot doesnt build on gentoo [06:23] my gosh, PPC machines are still running?! [06:23] Aye [06:24] * cfhowlett salutes! [06:24] atm running FreeBSD though [06:24] guys keep on ubuntu topic [06:24] we have a nice #ubuntu-discuss if you like [06:25] sounds good === kallesbar_ is now known as kallesbar [06:44] hi [06:53] !ping [06:53] pong! [06:54] it's a support channel. ask no questions, get no answers. [06:55] okay sorry [07:08] how do i upgrade my kernel version? [07:09] gambl0re: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [07:17] lotuspsychje, that will upgrade to the latest kernel? [07:18] is it recommended to use the latest kernel? i want to improve my battery life. do you think upgrading the kernel will help? im currently running 4.15.0-39-generic [07:37] Hello, if I take a HDD where I have my ubuntu installation to another computer, its not supposed to work ? [07:39] Dro: if it's uefi it needs a little tweaking [07:42] EriC^^: well I just cloned my whole hard drive (All partitions) into an USB hard drive and tried to use it in another computer, but when I select the USB HD nothing happens (the default system boot) [07:42] Any idea how can I do to make this works? [07:42] Dro: are you booted into ubuntu right now? [07:44] EriC^^: yes [07:44] BTW I have Ubuntu in both computers [07:44] Dro: type "ls /sys/firmware/efi" [07:44] on the one you cloned [07:45] EriC^^: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/yZyHJJndSh/ [07:45] is it recommended to use the latest kernel? i want to improve my battery life. [07:45] Dro: ok, so it's uefi [07:46] Dro: plug in the usb you cloned and type "lsblk" [07:46] EriC^^: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/wGx94VZbnM/ [07:47] The original is sda , and the clone is sdc , (sdb is an other disk) [07:47] hmm can you type "sudo parted -ls" [07:49] EriC^^: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/826Kbgmbwc/ [07:49] gambl0re: use the latest kernel that comes with your release of ubuntu, thtat is the recommended one [07:49] Dro: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sdc3 /mnt [07:50] gambl0re: (and the only supported one) [07:50] EriC^^: done [07:51] Dro: btw it's only using 128gb since the partition table is cloned, you can fix it to use the whole 1000gb [07:51] EriC^^: my source partition is only 128gb [07:51] thats why it used only 128gb i guess [07:51] Dro: type "for i in /dev /proc /sys; do sudo mount -R $i /mnt$i; done" [07:52] yeah [07:52] easy enough to fix though [07:52] EriC^^: in the cloned disk ? [07:52] yes [07:52] ah thats ok [07:52] why not [07:53] EriC^^: done [07:53] Dro: sudo chroot /mnt [07:53] 'E: The repository 'http://ppa.launchpad.net/enlightenment-git/ppa/ubuntu bionic Release' does not have a Release file. N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default' [07:54] what does this mean? [07:55] Dro: done? [07:55] DarwinElf, trying to upgrade a ppc install ? [07:55] EriC^^: yes [07:55] DarwinElf: it means that ppa is not updated and has no paxkages for your ubuntu version, find another ppa or contact the maintainer and ask for updates [07:55] Dro: type "mount -a" [07:55] EriC^^: this will change root directory? [07:55] Dro: yeah [07:56] okey, done [07:56] Dro: grub-install --removable [07:57] EriC^^: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/cW5qjVKpG7/ [07:57] no command found [07:57] grub with a "b" [07:58] lol [07:58] sorry :P [07:58] :D [07:58] EriC^^: Installing for x86_64-efi platform. [07:58] Installation finished. No error reported. [07:59] this is working in the cloned disk only, right? [07:59] or for both [07:59] Dro: type "ls -R /boot/efi/efi" [07:59] Dro: yeah cloned disk only [08:00] is it a flash disk or a spinning disk? [08:00] EriC^^: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Nrr4nTJg22/ [08:00] WoC, no. Ok, found a better one [08:01] its a USB disk [08:01] i don't have a PPC. Ok, thanks, bye [08:01] Dro: wow didnt nknow they mae them 1000gb [08:01] EriC^^: yes its a usb hard disk lol :D [08:02] i mean a spinning one? [08:02] or an electronic? how big is it :D [08:02] EriC^^: well not sure about this :| [08:02] Dro: type "cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi" [08:02] EriC^^: it look like this https://consumer.apacer.com/eng/content.php?sn=908 :p [08:03] Dro: lastly type "ls -lR /boot/efi" [08:04] Dro: the reason i ask is that if it's an actual flash disk it would die quickly qith an os running on it, so it's more reason to use the whole 1000gb as the main root fs so it uses less sectors each time [08:05] aha ok, but i guess that 128GB is quiet enough for a Ubuntu system , not ? [08:06] EriC^^: last command output : https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/DqbyXS83fW/ [08:07] nice [08:08] How do I create a conf file for apt-sortpkgs such that it lists fieds in user defined order? [08:09] Dro: yeah but why would you not use the full 1000gb [08:09] EriC^^: I was planning to use the rest of disk for some backup :D [08:10] Dro: well that's what i mean, you cant right now cause the partition table is cloned [08:10] i was talking about fixing that so you can use the rest of the space :P [08:10] EriC^^: there is "free space" there, it must be not allocated [08:10] I guess I can add a new partition using that space,not? [08:10] you can't allocate it my friend [08:11] no, you have to recreate the partition table (erase and recreate with same starting sectors for current partitions) [08:11] right now the partition table thinks the disk ends at 128gb, so you cant create anything after 128gb [08:11] hmm I though things are much easier then this :P lol [08:12] it won't appear in gparted then ? [08:12] gdisk might have a setting that can do this for you [08:12] first type "exit" in the chroot [08:12] done [08:12] type "sudo umount -R /mnt" [08:13] umount: /mnt/dev/pts: target is busy [08:13] (In some cases useful info about processes that [08:13] use the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1).) [08:13] nevermind [08:13] ok [08:13] Dro: try "sudo gdisk /dev/sdc" [08:13] see if it offers to fix the partition table for you [08:14] EriC^^: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/hs5HGY2VPF/ [08:15] which command should I use [08:17] EriC^^: btw, I can see the unallocated space using the "Disks" UI, and there is a "create partition in unallocated space" button [08:17] should I try this? [08:18] Is there a way to disable touchpad acceleration in 18.10? [08:18] gnome tweaks was able to set the profile to 'flat' in 18.04, but it doesn't seem to do anything in 18.10 [08:19] fengshaun: see the 'xset' man page, the 'mouse' option [08:19] ducasse, tried, no go [08:19] hmm, it should work afaik [08:20] Dro: try sudo parted /dev/sdc [08:20] it's extremely irritating [08:20] EriC^^: and then ? [08:21] Dro: did it offer to fix anything? [08:21] Dro: press ctrl+c then try sudo parted -l /dev/sdc [08:21] EriC^^: no just a command-line [08:21] yeah it offer fixing now [08:22] EriC^^: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/8SMyzjxrpk/ [08:22] Thats the one you mean ? [08:30] How do I create a conf file for apt-sortpkgs such that it lists fieds in user defined order? [08:32] EriC^^: its fixed now, thank you bro ! :) [08:38] EriC^^: we're done with the boot issue ? [08:46] Dro: yeah we are [08:46] Dro: be sure to set the other pc to uefi mod [08:46] *mode [08:47] EriC^^: ok i'll try and get back to you, thank you again!! ~ [08:47] Dro: ok, no problem [08:50] EriC^^: First try, asking me for passphare.. looks like it will work .. waiting.. :D [08:56] EriC^^: still waiting, about 8 minutes gone [08:56] black screen [08:56] well at first i saw something like "/boot/.. .not found" [08:56] and after few seconds ubuntu loader, and then it asks me for passphare [08:57] now black screan :| should I wait or reboot ? [09:00] Ok after +10 minutes of waiting, i'll force shutdown and try with my source computer === Class7_ is now known as Class7 [09:19] How do I check whether I'm on 18.04 or 18.10? === imsurit_ofc1 is now known as imsurit_ofc [09:24] Hi again [09:24] EriC^^: still there? [09:25] Look like the passphrase I entered was invalid [09:25] Anyway to reset passphrase or recover it ? [09:48] what text-to-speech systems are available from the Ubuntu repos? [09:49] by that I mean engines [09:49] which one are recommendable for English and for other European languages (German, French)? [09:49] leonardus: lsb_release -d [09:49] thanks [09:50] erle-: i know about orca [09:58] I forgot my passphare, how can I recover it please ? [09:58] Dro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword [09:59] luna_, which one is Firefox using? it has one built in [10:00] erle-: Mozilla TTS i did not know this until you told me [10:00] luna_, orca just seems to be a front-end btw, not an engine [10:00] ah sorry [10:00] luna_, you have to switch in "reader mode" [10:00] leonardus: I have the password [10:00] icon in address bar [10:01] I just forgot the passphare (for encrypted home) [10:01] erle-: cool then i learned something new about Firefox today :) [10:01] passphrase* [10:01] orca has the same voice as firefox [10:03] Hello all, I get ldlinux32 i get when i try to boot from usb [10:03] Dro: if you've lost the passphrase the data is probably lost too [10:03] Dro: that's sort of the point of encryption [10:04] Dro: Depending on how strong the passphrase is, you can try to brute force it. [10:04] But that's really your only hope. [10:05] ducasse: in fact i'm trying to use my disk in another computer, and its asking for passphrase [10:05] thats why I need it [10:05] but I can login to my session in my computer wihout problem :) [10:07] any idea guys ? :( [10:09] Dro: you just had your answers from volunteers [10:28] lotuspsychje: thats ok thanks :) [10:29] Does this line "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0" have to be commented or uncommented under /etc/fstab ? [10:52] How do I create a conf file for apt-sortpkgs such that it lists fields in user defined order? [10:53] Solved the message asking for passphare with the first comment here https://askubuntu.com/questions/946864/cryptswap1-messages-after-reseizing-root-partition [10:53] The message disappeared now, but still not able to get in my Ubuntu system.. black screen there [10:54] EriC^^: are you there? [11:12] How do I create a conf file for apt-sortpkgs such that it lists fields in user defined order? [12:12] I have Ubuntu installed in my internal hard drive, and Ubuntu installed in my external hard drive.. after doing update-grub in my external drive it looks like it configured the sda3/ as itself (while it belong to my internal drive) [12:12] So any time i try to connect to my USB external drive it redirect me to the internal instance :| [12:13] any idea how to fix this ? [12:19] Dro: so, you ahve two disks, both having Ubuntu installed, both having grub on them? [12:20] Hi folks [12:21] blackflow: I guess so, the first (internal) with 14.04 and the external 16.04 [12:21] I run update-grub in the external instance (16.04) , and after reboot when I choose external USB drive I get redirected to the internal one (14.04) [12:22] Dro: choose where? bios menu? [12:22] blackflow: yes boot menu [12:22] I can choose either my internal hdd or my external one [12:22] but now after grub-update it always go to the internal one (sda) [12:22] thing is, if you have multiple grubs you'll have problems. if both disks are mounted during any kind of grub-update run, os prober will find them and cause a mess. Ideally you should limit yourself only to a single grub instance. [12:23] blackflow: any idea can I remove this configuration using chroot ? [12:23] I must modifiy my external instance grub [12:25] Dro: depends on what you want exactly. not sure you even need chroot. I'd guess you wnt your internal disk to be the "normal" one? with bios_boot (I'm assuming GPT) and the grub menu? [12:27] blackflow: what I want to do is: when I choose external drive in the boot menu I get the ubuntu instance for that drive [12:27] currently the grub of my external drive is redirecting me to /dev/sda (which is my internal drive) [12:27] .1 [12:27] oops sorry [12:29] Dro: well, in order to fix the external drive grub menu, yeah you'll have to mount the external drive's root (and /boot if it's separate) in a chroot and run grub-update in there, so it sees only the mounted paths from the external drive [12:31]